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Aug 8, 2018 7:57 AM

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A fine conclusion. Or an exquisite inception.

Given the enormous challenge of depicting the Battle of Loum, the production team definitely did a fine job. It was a fascinating spectacle which struck a fine balance between mobile suit and fleet combat. Computer graphics, while abundant, were executed well and did not bother me a bit. It was definitely something that was consistent throughout Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin.

I also found the various little details surrounding the battle quite intriguing, particularly Dozle's moment of silence after mopping up the remnants of Revil's fleet. The scale and devastation that the fog of war revealed was awe-inspiring. Even seemingly minor characters had a distinct role in the aftermath. However, warfare was not the only thing that piqued my interest in this episode.

Wars begin when politicians fail, but politics never ceases. A glance behind the closed curtains of the Zabi empire was interesting, as was Revil's revelation of the multitude of issues hindering the Principality of Zeon. I cannot blame Degwin for his outburst, I bet he was not expecting anything of the sort when the sovereign authorised Revil's escape. In that regard, Char's remark on his troops almost ruining a brilliant bit of political theatre was spot on.

(M'Quve was also an intriguing fellow. It was a bit of a shame that the invasion of Earth was only given a passing glance. Then again, it could not be helped.)

As for the man in red himself, he was, as always, as dashing as he was cunning. Witnessing the Tri-Star's chagrin due to Char stealing the limelight was amusing. His confrontation with Garma also brought a grin to my face. Then again, Char is undeniably a person that does not need the aid of light in his endeavours.
Aug 12, 2018 10:26 AM
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I came away from it unsure how to feel. It was amazing, but I feel let down that there are no plans to animate the remainder of The Origin. The 1979 series is fantastic, yes, but I can't help feel that its a difficult watch for new viewers. Heck, they could have at least continued up until the departure of White Base from Side 7.
Oct 4, 2018 5:38 AM

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A fine and very consistent series.

Unfortunately, I was looking forward to so much more of the story, particularly Amuro's origin which I thought would have been adapted after all the talk of the Gundam. Guess i'll have to watch the original series to pick things up?
Dec 20, 2018 7:50 PM

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Limited worldwide broadcast on, very nice since they don't have anymore OAV release to promote:
Dec 21, 2018 2:40 AM

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last ova has been the least appealing one, yet as a whole its definitly a holy great experience. +6 Hours of pure war drama fun and one of the best anime I ever experienced.
Modified by MichaelJackson, Jul 13, 2019 8:39 PM
Jul 8, 2019 6:57 PM

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Always a good reminder that Gundam is my favorite franchise in all of entertainment. This was fan service done just right! Seeing behind the scenes of the Zabi family, how Char grew into the Red Comet persona, and to see Amuro, and the great Bright at the end (probably my favorite character in the franchise), was the perfect conclusion. I concur with previous posters that seeing the origins of Amuro would have been ideal, but this is what we got and I'm not going to complain.

I thought about re-watching all of 0079, but I've yet to view the movies, and watching a condensed version of the show is conducive to my current schedule, so I cannot wait!
Aug 1, 2019 3:31 AM

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Char arrives.
Oi! Megane, megane!
Napoleon and Hitler.
Char getting the bitches.
Statue oppai. Dem nipples.
Operation V.
lol at the robot coming out of the table.
Mirai and her father.
Amuro tells Kai to move.
Kisama! You don't kick Haro.
Haro is ashamed.
Sayla will go to Side 7.
Degwin is pissed.
Those 3 kids in the water.
Fraw in dat bikini! LAWD!
Amuro gets in the robot.
Dat ending.
White Base.
Dat photo.
And now, Gundam begins...

And that was the end. It was good. Hamon is waifu.
Modified by Rob, Aug 1, 2019 3:57 AM
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Sep 21, 2019 6:06 PM

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I think they ended this series in a perfect way. Since some said the manga ending may invalidate the Zeta and CC. I'm not sure though I haven't read it myslelf.
The story telling was good and was easy to follow. The "Dawn of Rebellion" is my favorite part, the back booster thingy was so cool.

Im disappointed how this series portrayed Char's character. I just don't like the way how Char get the "Char" identity. I thought it would be more symbolic and I don't remember him having a God-complex. I know he want to avenge his family but does joining Zeon was the right choice? Was it really worth to kill a thousand? It just hard for me to believe that this psychopath Char and Quattro Bageena is the same person. The Char in this series was really an evil while Quattro was like a brother figure and formed a bond in Argama. I can't imagine this was the same man who gave a speech in Dakar and talked how evil the Titans is.

I hope I can understand him more by watching CC(later) and his ideology.

Onto the MSG movie trilogy to freshen my memory about One Year War.

Dec 10, 2019 10:18 PM

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Aw, man, we didn't even get to see this "Gundam" they keep talking about 😶
Dec 25, 2019 4:16 AM
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Can this episode be found even?
Mar 18, 2020 7:19 PM

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BEST GUNDAM EVER, and best end to the beginning
Apr 2, 2020 8:15 PM

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So this is what I make of the Zabi family member's individual motivations:

Degwin would rather cause less bloodshed if it meant remaining in power. He fears what he sees in his son, Gihren, hence he tries to negotiate with Revil and is angered once the freed Revil didn't do what he wanted. In the same negotiation however, he seems to believe in Zeonism but in his discussion with Gihren he calls Zeon an evil spirit possessing his son.

Gihren wants enough destruction so no one could be able to rise up and overthrow him once he's in power, he's not even loyal to Degwin. In Degwin's eyes, it seems Zeon himself would become this anyway.

Kycilia is both a believer in the ideology of Zeonism and a loyalist to her father, so while she wants to invade Earth, which she calls a "Holy Land" in her discussion with M'Quve, she enacts Degwin's plan to counter Gihren's warmongering by returning Revil to the Federation.

She assassinated Sasro for assaulting her and those who have seen MSG or read the manga will know what she would do to Gihren.

Dozle is a family man.

Garma wants to impress the rest of his family.
Modified by Fortress_Maximus, Apr 3, 2020 5:47 AM
May 13, 2020 11:48 PM
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"and now, Gundam begins"

gundam it goddamn it hopefully they animate the rest of it soon but they are gonna focus on Hathaway Flash movies for now though

spacenoids are the new species of humanity heh

Char is a cosmic warrior lol

Jun 19, 2020 7:54 AM
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I don't think I was at the best position to enjoy these OVAs, but I still enjoyed them quite a lot.

This is definitely something you would dig more, after watching the original, especially if concerning Casval, not calling him Char cuz he killed the real one!
He is a dick, it is hard to like him if this is your first contact with the man, but sure an interesting one.

The final battle was really great.

OVA was long enough I had to watch it thrice.

My desire to watch the original gundam has risen now, but tbh, if they did this much... they could have remade the original one with proper modern animation.

Jul 20, 2020 9:26 AM

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Pretty amazing for being my first Gundam, it feels just like an introduction to a large franchise. I appreciate Char's development as a character and also appreciate that it shows all sides in this conflict.

I have some minor issues like there's conveniently another person very similar physically to Casval but casting aside that the plot could not have continued without it.

I'm going to watch the original Gundam later. Thanks for this introduction. 8/10 for the anime.
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Sep 26, 2020 11:46 AM
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I just love the way that gundam criticizes war and totalitarian governments, like the part where Dewin criticizes Gihren's thoughts about war and being superior by comparing him to Napoleon and Hitler and how bitterly they failed for it.
Nov 18, 2020 4:40 PM

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Nurguburu said:
Pretty amazing for being my first Gundam, it feels just like an introduction to a large franchise. I appreciate Char's development as a character and also appreciate that it shows all sides in this conflict.

I have some minor issues like there's conveniently another person very similar physically to Casval but casting aside that the plot could not have continued without it.

They could've removed the nearly identical "Char Aznable" plot line all together though. It's just bad fanfiction from the author. The whole assassination attempt of Casval is silly. The assassins point out that Char and Casval are identical but don't try to detain and kill both in a stealthy way. Instead they blow up a whole transport with hundreds of people, because they didn't check the person's eye color first.

It also contradicts what we know from MSG. When Kycillia says she knew Char was Casval the entire time but didn't care.

Womp, womp. Char wank unchecked, gets wrecked.
Feb 9, 10:19 AM
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Loved seeing the battle at Loum finally. That battle was brought up numerous times in the 0079 and to see it animated in the modern way was perfect. Federation really did get trounced. Those mobile suits really took them to task.

Was a good series. Definitely rewatchable.