| So at first we were all familiar with One Piece, Naruto and Bleach. But Bleach is no more and Naruto has undergone some severe changes so it leads one to ask: Who are the new Big 3. Sakura Anime News argues that they are: -One Piece -Boruto -My Hero Academia Crunchyroll says: -One Piece -My Hero Academia -Black Clover So what do you guys think constitutes the new Big 3? Or does that category even still exist at this point? |
| Actually as it stands We have One Piece, then we have the big 3 after that so it this The King; One Piece Big 3 -My Hero Academia -Promise to Neverland -Black Clover |
| No way in hell will Boruto make it in the next big 3, considering that a good portion of the Naruto fanbase despises its very existence. Black Clover has a better shot but that's still very questionable since it's generally hated as well. One thing that's for certain is that it'll be extremely difficult for another shounen to reach the popularity that the original big 3 did. And all of this is assuming that there will ever be another "big 3", which doesn't seem very likely. My Hero Academia is on fire right now though. |
NickDenMay 13, 2018 6:16 PM
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| >Black Clover Okay, I'm not an expert on shounen. But. People still watch watch that show? Both Boruto and Black Clover were pretty bad I thought tbh |
| uggh... Black Clover? why? But I do see that My hero Academia could definitely take the place of naruto/bleach. It's kinda sad to see the Big Three changing, but exciting what the dramatic shifts taking place in the anime industry. |
| -one piece -one piece - annnd one piece come back at me when another shounen hits the 300 ep count |
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| God I hope Black Clover becomes less annoying like Naruto did. But honestly probably My Hero Academia Black Cover One Piece |
| There are no big 3 anymore. It's just one piece. |
| I hardly can consider Black Clover as a part of a new big 3, but Boruto? no way. I think, by now at least, that concept is no longer relevant. |
ren_moonMay 13, 2018 6:21 PM
| There will never be another big 3, but even if there was one piece is no where near that discussion, most of the persons that are following one piece are from the older generation, the newer generation wont even give it a try because of its big episode count. In terms of manga sales in Japan its still king of course. |
| The Daddy One Piece New Big 3 Attack on Titan My Hero Academia Haikyuu |
| i would consider remove One Piece out of the list though, One Piece is the sole survivor of former Big 3, to be put on the same list as Boruto, Black Clover, and MHA is kind of insulting, considering One Piece legacy, they deserved a higher title as the only surviving long running shounen it’s better to form a “new” Shounen Big 3. because all the Big 3 is from Shounen Jump, i will say: - MHA - Black Clover - Boruto there’s a big difference on power isn’t it. maybe Big 3 is no more i guess. well you can include Shingeki no Kyojin, but that’s different matter |
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| big 3 concept is for 3 most popular seires who get showed in the same time in western... it still baffle me how dragon ball and saint seiya is never considered part of big 3 or something equivalent out of it simply because they started aired not at the same time as those 3 even technically they still aired when big 3 released... so the condition for big 3 is already gone... people who still using big 3 is either outdated or try to baiting casual audience... |
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Spades said: I'm still watching it, and it's just as horrible as ever.>Black Clover Okay, I'm not an expert on shounen. But. People still watch watch that show? Both Boruto and Black Clover were pretty bad I thought tbh |
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Kuma said: big 3 concept is for 3 most popular seires who get showed in the same time in western... it still baffle me how dragon ball and saint seiya is never considered part of big 3 or something equivalent out of it simply because they started aired not at the same time as those 3 even technically they still aired when big 3 released... so the condition for big 3 is already gone... people who still using big 3 is either outdated, uninformed, or try to baiting casual audience... Dbz is at a different league to the big 3, I can still mention dbz and everyone would know it even none anime fans, mentioning one piece or bleach not so much, Naruto imo comes close. imo out of the big 3, naruto is more popular worldwide, one piece got the boost because of how popular it is in Japan. |
| There IS no Big 3 anymore and never will be. BNHA, Boruto and Black Clover are far too short compared to OP/Bleach/Naruto and will never be as long as them. Big 3 was the 3 long running shounen airing back in the day. The only reason people want a new one is for hype reasons. But which matters more: Actual quality of a show or a shit ton of fillers and messy content that wasn't adapted correctly from the manga where the manga starts to add in filler-y content and goes on for way longer than it should have just because? |
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keragamming said: Kuma said: big 3 concept is for 3 most popular seires who get showed in the same time in western... it still baffle me how dragon ball and saint seiya is never considered part of big 3 or something equivalent out of it simply because they started aired not at the same time as those 3 even technically they still aired when big 3 released... so the condition for big 3 is already gone... people who still using big 3 is either outdated, uninformed, or try to baiting casual audience... Dbz is at a different league to the big 3, I can still mention dbz and everyone would know it even none anime fans, mentioning one piece or bleach not so much, Naruto imo comes close. imo out of the big 3, naruto is more popular worldwide, one piece got the boost because of how popular it is in Japan. well, i don't know much about anime tv ratings in the west, so i can't talk about that, however, it still amazing DB is not considered "big *something*".... showing how big 3 term actually pretty incosistant and rondom... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
 Christ, it´s that topic again. The Big 3 are gone. Their legacy will be forever there and the term won´t die out anytime soon but stop trying to get your shitty favorite series into that boat. Come up with your own shitty short lived meme that´ll be relevant for half a decade before it gets forgotten by the masses and only kept alive by some schoolyard nerds that want to make their shitty favorite series part of the Awesome 5 or whatever. Just be creative and actually find connective tissue between your shitty favorite series, but leave One Piece out of this. It´s outside of everyones ballpark at this point and thematically has nothing in common with modern Shounen. Remember Toriko? That was argued at a time to be made part of the Big 3 too and look where it is now. Here´s my personal candidate. The Great two. SAO and AOT. Because they are the most popular "franchises" to come out the past 5 years and consistently stayed up there in popularity. This was enough to qualify Bleach. Go internet make it a thing. |
keragamming said: Kuma said: big 3 concept is for 3 most popular seires who get showed in the same time in western... it still baffle me how dragon ball and saint seiya is never considered part of big 3 or something equivalent out of it simply because they started aired not at the same time as those 3 even technically they still aired when big 3 released... so the condition for big 3 is already gone... people who still using big 3 is either outdated, uninformed, or try to baiting casual audience... Dbz is at a different league to the big 3, I can still mention dbz and everyone would know it even none anime fans, mentioning one piece or bleach not so much, Naruto imo comes close. imo out of the big 3, naruto is more popular worldwide, one piece got the boost because of how popular it is in Japan. One Piece got an ad on the New York Times newspaper and is the 3rd best selling comic book series next to Superman and Batman in the world. The era when OP was an unpopular franchise is long gone. |
Kuma said: keragamming said: Dbz is at a different league to the big 3, I can still mention dbz and everyone would know it even none anime fans, mentioning one piece or bleach not so much, Naruto imo comes close. imo out of the big 3, naruto is more popular worldwide, one piece got the boost because of how popular it is in Japan. well, i don't know much about anime tv ratings in the west, so i can't talk about that, however, it still amazing DB is not considered "big *something*".... showing how big 3 term actually pretty incosistant and rondom... Tv ratings? dbz is as popular as pokemon, those series everyone knows them, people that don't even watch anime knows those two. I could bet a million dollar if you go up to random people, between one peice and dbz, that dbz would win easily. As I sais before dbz is not in this argument simple because its at pokemon level of popularity. The only reason people are still mentioning one peice is because the anime is still ongoing and it still sells the most in Japan even though we are talking about in the west. One piece is #35 when it comes to popularity, hxh came out in 2011 and it has surpass one peice, it just shows that its not getting much new members to watch it, and my guess is because its so damn long. |
SuperRed said: keragamming said: Dbz is at a different league to the big 3, I can still mention dbz and everyone would know it even none anime fans, mentioning one piece or bleach not so much, Naruto imo comes close. imo out of the big 3, naruto is more popular worldwide, one piece got the boost because of how popular it is in Japan. One Piece got an ad on the New York Times newspaper and is the 3rd best selling comic book series next to Superman and Batman in the world. The era when OP was an unpopular franchise is long gone. Most of those sales came from one country, Japan! Plus I've already admitted one piece is the king in terms of manga sales in Japan. My argument is that most new fans wont get into one piece, so its wrong to put it to be apart of the new big 3,, which I have mention there will never be a new big 3, simple because long running series is basically not a thing anymore, people don't watch cable anymore, we use the internet and we have access to many anime now, and don't have to watch what cable puts on, and many other reason. |
| I mean for me, it was always Gintama, FMAB, and Hunter x Hunter but y'all should realize that tastes are different LOL (and tbh it's probably One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach, but even then idk why people are still arguing about this) |
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| Does it really matter? One Piece is about as trash as an anime could get, and bleach isn't too far behind. #NotMyBig3 |
existentialist said: Does it really matter? One Piece is about as trash as an anime could get, and bleach isn't too far behind. #NotMyBig3 As your opinion is the least favored, least impressionable and the least accepted I may or may not have considered it trivial and unimportant. With all the due respect warranted, fookin' please reconsider and reevaluate your sentiment. |
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| The big 3 are easily MHA, HxH and Berserk imo. |
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AntwanMantilla said: Cucks Manga isn't worthy. and Deku is a bitch.The big 3 are easily MHA, HxH and Berserk imo. |
| Sigh. There is no "new" Big Three. It uniquely referred to One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach, which were far and away the most relevant anime to the entire Western fandom for a long time. There aren't any battle shounen that hold that kind of ongoing relevance to the current fandom. Not Shingeki no Kyojin, not Boku no Hero Academia, and not even One Piece anymore. I really wish this topic would stop resurrecting. We've beat this dead horse so much that it's turning into a disgusting mush. tl;dr One Piece is the only of the Big Three left, there likely won't ever be an equivalent to what was the Big Three again, and no battle shounen (One Piece included) is as ongoingly relevant to the Western fandom as the Big Three used to be. |
| LMAOOOOOOOO HOW DOES BLACK CLOVER EVEN DESERVE BEING IN THE BIG 3 I'M DNDBNDKSMSBD |
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| No more, how about we go to our individual lives and watch some good anime, like IdolMaster and Aikatsu. |
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TripleSRank said: Sigh. There is no "new" Big Three. It uniquely referred to One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach, which were far and away the most relevant anime to the entire Western fandom for a long time. There aren't any battle shounen that hold that kind of ongoing relevance to the current fandom. Not Shingeki no Kyojin, not Boku no Hero Academia, and not even One Piece anymore. I really wish this topic would stop resurrecting. We've beat this dead horse so much that it's turning into a disgusting mush. tl;dr One Piece is the only of the Big Three left, there likely won't ever be an equivalent to what was the Big Three again, and no battle shounen (One Piece included) is as ongoingly relevant to the Western fandom as the Big Three used to be. Pretty much this, I don't know why people keep insisting on what anime are going to use one of those 3 "big" spots now that Naruto and Bleach are gone, thinking that those 3 spots are some kind of disputable, always-existing thrones. Big 3 was just a way to refer exclusively to the famous trio. It is not an ongoing contest of any kind. Btw... I don't know why many are talking about the manga sales here...there's another corresponding forum to talk about that. Here we should compare titles only based on anime popularity, not the mangas. |
| The big three haven't changed and never will change because it represents not only those anime(Naruto, Bleach, One Piece) but also the time that they were in. In the mid to late 2000's those were the juggernauts of shounen, and maybe even the anime industry. This was especially true in the west where anime was nowhere close to accessible as it is now. For a multitude of reasons, their popularity slowly died down and with the changes in the anime industry over the years it will be impossible so see something of that magnitude again. |
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FreyjaLilith said: existentialist said: Does it really matter? One Piece is about as trash as an anime could get, and bleach isn't too far behind. #NotMyBig3 As your opinion is the least favored, least impressionable and the least accepted I may or may not have considered it trivial and unimportant. With all the due respect warranted, fookin' please reconsider and reevaluate your sentiment. I'm just sayin when I watch an anime I'm hoping for at least more than 5 mins of new material each episode, and not 15 mins of replaying what previously happened.[/exaggeration] I understand some people can deal with the excessive recapitulating, its just not my thing ¯\_(γ)_/¯ |
LaLeLuLiLo said: -one piece -one piece - annnd one piece come back at me when another shounen hits the 300 ep count i am pretty sure gintama is at 300... |
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| Honestly who even cares any more? The big 3 died when Naruto and Bleach ended, no point in trying to replace them. |
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| One piece Shingeki no Kyojin My hero academia |
existentialist said: FreyjaLilith said: As your opinion is the least favored, least impressionable and the least accepted I may or may not have considered it trivial and unimportant. With all the due respect warranted, fookin' please reconsider and reevaluate your sentiment. I'm just sayin when I watch an anime I'm hoping for at least more than 5 mins of new material each episode, and not 15 mins of replaying what previously happened.[/exaggeration] I understand some people can deal with the excessive recapitulating, its just not my thing ¯\_(γ)_/¯ Oh, so you're the technical type. I thought we were talking about expansive story line, correlating arcs, massive character individuality with fluid genre shifts as befits of what should be called "legacy shounen" that is our present topic but oh well, I guess we can't all be with taste. |
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