| Pretty much this. "http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin_(Fate/Zero)" "http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/True_Assassin_(Fate/stay_night)" I m a huge fan of HF route, and recently started reading FateZero, after seeing the first movie, I just cant shake this out of my mind. You can confirm it yourself, not only both Assassins above look the same, but they also have the same true name. Any hardcore fan able to explain this to me? |
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| Well ... If i'm understanding your question correctly, then the answer on that is in the second paragraph of that first Assassin link you posted. |
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AdatiusMay 13, 2018 3:04 AM
| Fate Zero Hassan( Hundred Faces) has lots of bodies so I highly doubt a single Hassan can beat them all beside the big boss. |
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Mrkulci said: Lol what?its not even close true assasin destroyed 3 servants one after another He didnt do shit alone.The only one that counts as a legit kill is Caster. Cu was dominating and lost because of the Shadow.Saber lost for the same reason. |
| Caster losing to him was bullshit btw. Yeah yeah he had a hostage bla bla bla. How did he take a hostage in her own damn territory is beyond me. I prefer the manga version at least Caster doesn't job so hard to hype up Assassin there. |
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ssjokg said: Mrkulci said: Lol what?its not even close true assasin destroyed 3 servants one after another He didnt do shit alone.The only one that counts as a legit kill is Caster. Cu was dominating and lost because of the Shadow.Saber lost for the same reason. Botato said: Caster losing to him was bullshit btw. Yeah yeah he had a hostage bla bla bla. How did he take a hostage in her own damn territory is beyond me. I prefer the manga version at least Caster doesn't job so hard to hype up Assassin there. Souichirou Kuzuki was pretty strong though and HF's Assassin probably killed him in seconds. Plus, he killed Caster's Assassin without her almost even noticing. |
SteelingMaxMay 14, 2018 8:02 PM
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Botato said: Presence Concealment.And as far as we know he his presence is similar to Sasaki.Caster losing to him was bullshit btw. Yeah yeah he had a hostage bla bla bla. How did he take a hostage in her own damn territory is beyond me. I prefer the manga version at least Caster doesn't job so hard to hype up Assassin there. |
SteelingMax said: Kuzuki's power matters only if he has Caster's back up. Archer killed him in secs after he lost that.In fact, as Assassin said, "He still moved".Praise goes to Kuzuki not Assassin.Unless if he intentionally didnt kill him.ssjokg said: Lol what? He didnt do shit alone.The only one that counts as a legit kill is Caster. Cu was dominating and lost because of the Shadow.Saber lost for the same reason. Botato said: Caster losing to him was bullshit btw. Yeah yeah he had a hostage bla bla bla. How did he take a hostage in her own damn territory is beyond me. I prefer the manga version at least Caster doesn't job so hard to hype up Assassin there. Souichirou Kuzuki was pretty strong though and HF's Assassin probably killed him in seconds. Plus, he killed Caster's Assassin without her almost not noticing at all. |
ssjokg said: Mrkulci said: Lol what?its not even close true assasin destroyed 3 servants one after another He didnt do shit alone.The only one that counts as a legit kill is Caster. Cu was dominating and lost because of the Shadow.Saber lost for the same reason. He might have not done shit alone but to give credit where it's due TA knew of his own weakness and relied on the environmental hazard that was the shadow to take out his opponents, just goes to show that "muh HIGHER power level" doesn't decides a fight in Fate. |
Thank you, I finally understood it, so they are different people then. Zero Assassin looked way more like a wimp, whereas you can really feel this one being more cunning and deadly. |
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Playcool said: Thank you, I finally understood it, so they are different people then. Zero Assassin looked way more like a wimp, whereas you can really feel this one being more cunning and deadly. No problem. |
Shayon said: Playcool said: Thank you, I finally understood it, so they are different people then. Zero Assassin looked way more like a wimp, whereas you can really feel this one being more cunning and deadly. No problem. Definitly makes sense, I also had a feeling it could be that, but you surely explored it quite better than I ever did with my thoughts alone~~ |
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can u pls link me where u read this information? cause im really interested in reading more about it |
Isax said: The FSN visual Novel, random extra material and almost every new Fate/.can u pls link me where u read this information? cause im really interested in reading more about it |
Isax said: can u pls link me where u read this information? cause im really interested in reading more about it Or you can just use Type-moon wiki. |
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Swagernator said: Mostly a terrible idea, but it's probably easier to recommend this over slogging through the franchise.Isax said: can u pls link me where u read this information? cause im really interested in reading more about it Or you can just use Type-moon wiki. |
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Isax said: can u pls link me where u read this information? cause im really interested in reading more about it What ssjokg said + Type-moon wiki. The Type-moon wiki is full of unmarked spoilers for anything related to the Nasuverse though, you should know about that. The page about the Grail for example, has spoilers for the upcoming HF movies. But anyway, now that I've said that, here are the pages for the Assassin thing: |
Botato said: Mostly a terrible idea, but it's probably easier to recommend this over slogging through the franchise. Wiki is great idea, all important information on one place. Spoilers are not problem when there is nothing left to be spoiled LOL. |
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Swagernator said: It's less spoilers that are the problem and more that it's full of fancanon and completely wrong info sometimes.Botato said: Mostly a terrible idea, but it's probably easier to recommend this over slogging through the franchise. Wiki is great idea, all important information on one place. Spoilers are not problem when there is nothing left to be spoiled LOL. |
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Botato said: Swagernator said: It's less spoilers that are the problem and more that it's full of fancanon and completely wrong info sometimes.Wiki is great idea, all important information on one place. Spoilers are not problem when there is nothing left to be spoiled LOL. Man, not even wiki is trusthwordhy these days, what a sad world we live in truly. |
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Swagernator said: Just the TM wiki, fgo wiki has some slight typos and basic math mistakes, but cirnopedia seemed reliable enough so not all hope is lost.Botato said: It's less spoilers that are the problem and more that it's full of fancanon and completely wrong info sometimes. Man, not even wiki is trusthwordhy these days, what a sad world we live in truly. |
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Botato said: Just the TM wiki, fgo wiki has some slight typos and basic math mistakes, but cirnopedia seemed reliable enough so not all hope is lost. Next time i would be looking for stuff from Tsukihime i will head right to cirnopedia. Oh wait. |
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Swagernator said: What do you mean Tsukihime. Fgo is the only thing that matters :DBotato said: Just the TM wiki, fgo wiki has some slight typos and basic math mistakes, but cirnopedia seemed reliable enough so not all hope is lost. Next time i would be looking for stuff from Tsukihime i will head right to cirnopedia. Oh wait. |
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Botato said: Just the TM wiki, fgo wiki has some slight typos and basic math mistakes, but cirnopedia seemed reliable enough so not all hope is lost. Actually it's the other way around. FGO wiki is far more reliable than Cirno. |
astroprogs said: Either I'm having a massive brainfart or the NA team makes cirno the standard because it's pretty reliable.Botato said: Just the TM wiki, fgo wiki has some slight typos and basic math mistakes, but cirnopedia seemed reliable enough so not all hope is lost. Actually it's the other way around. FGO wiki is far more reliable than Cirno. Although let me clarify, I am talking about the uhh, wikia version of the wiki. As far as I know there are 2 fgo wikis plus cirno. Yaaay. |
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Botato said: Either I'm having a massive brainfart or the NA team makes cirno the standard because it's pretty reliable. Although let me clarify, I am talking about the uhh, wikia version of the wiki. As far as I know there are 2 fgo wikis plus cirno. Yaaay. I mean those: FGO Wiki: http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Order_Wikia Cirno: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/ The former should always be your first option. |
astroprogs said: Huh. I check that one for servants/materials/etcBotato said: Either I'm having a massive brainfart or the NA team makes cirno the standard because it's pretty reliable. Although let me clarify, I am talking about the uhh, wikia version of the wiki. As far as I know there are 2 fgo wikis plus cirno. Yaaay. I mean those: FGO Wiki: http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Order_Wikia Cirno: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/ The former should always be your first option. I check cirno for events. |
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Shayon said: Playcool said: Thank you, I finally understood it, so they are different people then. Zero Assassin looked way more like a wimp, whereas you can really feel this one being more cunning and deadly. No problem. unless you're an idiot like tohsaka who sends to suicide against like everyone :> |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
Kumagawa_mei said: unless you're an idiot like tohsaka who sends to suicide against like everyone :> But he's an adult, not a teenager like the characters in FSN, so it's fine. |
Shayon said: Kumagawa_mei said: unless you're an idiot like tohsaka who sends to suicide against like everyone :> But he's an adult, not a teenager like the characters in FSN, so it's fine. tbh wish i could be an adult, so i can sell my daugther :D |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
| Seriously what is up with all the Zero Assassin hate? Are we really disregarding the fact that they were completely missused in the entire show? Zero Hassan had 80~ bodies. And all Tokiomi(and Kirei) did was to order him to spy and kill themselves With 80~ Servants, even with Assassin's stats, they could have taken out Saber, or at least, abduct Iri, kill Waver(twice), Maiya, even Kiritusgu and Kayneth. But no, they used them as fodder, because Tokimo is an idiot and Kirei didnt care till half way of the war. |
| The blame falls on the movie hyping up CA Assassin tbf. But also, most of these people believe Lancelot > Gilgamesh so :shrug: |
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Botato said: They "hyped" up his reason as a concept. All he did was lead others to the Shadow.Anyone with intelligence would notice that he didnt do shit to Saber and Lancer. Even Medea lost because Kuzuki was used as a hostage.The blame falls on the movie hyping up CA Assassin tbf. But also, most of these people believe Lancelot > Gilgamesh so :shrug: Assassin did assassin stuff and he is hyped? the Assassin class is really made up of assassins huh? |
| You're expecting someone who was fooled by Lancelot's gymnastics show to not be fooled, especially when CA Assassin engages with, and survives, Cu in a melee. I honestly don't want to repeat this discussion either :thinking: |
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Botato said: You're expecting someone who was fooled by Lancelot's gymnastics show to not be fooled, especially when CA Assassin engages with, and survives, Cu in a melee. I honestly don't want to repeat this discussion either :thinking: He survived by pretty much running away most of the time. People were disappointed because of the *lack* of combat in that fight. Then he got his ass kicked by Rider. Far from thinking he was hyped, he looked pretty pathetic after being rekt so badly. Once again us fate fans prove we are the most OCD about every bloody detail and need to argue pointlessly over the smallest deviation from the "holy rule book of TM". |
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| Thanks for your addition. There was definitely more to that fight than running away though. I honestly don't care anymore, regardless of what other people think, while I was watching the movie I know that I didn't like the city part of it. It has nothing to do with the VN or other people, I simply didn't like it. If you enjoyed it, great, more power to you. |
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