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Aug 16, 2018 10:24 AM

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Clanky72 said:

Why not make a thought experiment to spice things up? Let's say a brother and a sister, both 20 years old, love each other.


Love is when you want to have family and kids with someone. Otherwise it is just lust.
 
Aug 16, 2018 10:37 AM
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DeadOpossum said:
Clanky72 said:

Why not make a thought experiment to spice things up? Let's say a brother and a sister, both 20 years old, love each other.


Love is when you want to have family and kids with someone. Otherwise it is just lust.

That's your opinion, but very well. We can adjust the thought experiment to that. After I all, I didn't ask for the definition of love.

Let's say a brother and a sister, both 20 years old, find the other sexually attractive. They both want to have sex with each other, so they both consent. Both of them agree to use birth control. The sister will be on the pill and the brother will wear a condom, so no chance that there will ever be a baby. What is disgusting now about their sex?
 
Aug 16, 2018 10:42 AM

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Clanky72 said:
What is disgusting now about their sex?


Is having sex with a prostitute ok for you? Doing the same with your sister is even worse because you're lowering her morale and self-respect by doing this act. You would never want doing this with a person who you like.
 
Aug 16, 2018 11:47 AM
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DeadOpossum said:
Clanky72 said:
What is disgusting now about their sex?


Is having sex with a prostitute ok for you? Doing the same with your sister is even worse because you're lowering her morale and self-respect by doing this act. You would never want doing this with a person who you like.

I'm not sure what prostitution has to with this?
If both borhter and sister consent and they use birth control sufficiently enough there is no harm done, no reason to lower moral or self-respect. If the sister would loose moral or self-respect over this she can just decline, right? It sounds you're thinking more of rape than incest.

If people will hate them for incest that would lower the morale and self-respect for the brother and the sister. But my point is that if they consented and used birth control there is no reason to hate them. Those people who hate them would be the ones blame. If friends of yours who are brother and sister would start to have such a relationship with each other, would you hate them for it? Would you want to lower their morale and self-respect because of it?
 
Aug 16, 2018 12:07 PM

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Clanky72 said:
e, no reason to lower moral or self-respect. If the ?


Do you understand what moral is? Moral is social norm and living in agreement with these norms. Iciest is not a social norm. So doing it you're lowering moral. Obvious.

Doing sex just for the sake of the feeling (like with a prostitute) is lowering of self-respect because she could go out with a guy she loves instead. When she will find a guy she loves, will she be comfortable telling him she had incest?
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DeadOpossum said:
Clanky72 said:
e, no reason to lower moral or self-respect. If the ?


Do you understand what moral is? Moral is social norm. Iciest is not a social norm. So doing it you're lowering moral. Obvious.

Doing sex just for the sake of the feeling (like with a prostitute) is lowering of self-respect because she could go out with a guy she loves instead.

Fuck you're right about the Morals. I always thought "morally right" is synomonys with "doing no harm" or something along those lines. But if I got it right this time then lowering morale isn't really a bad thing, since you can lower morale and do no harm to anybody. And know that I learned that morals are social norms that means that they can be changed.

But I won't argue with you about the definition of love or out of which reasons people can enjoy sex. I personally think you can love more than just one person. Ideally you would love everyone on this world, but that's not humanly possible. I also think you can enjoy sex with a number of people. We're not eating the same meal everyday either, we want some change to keep it exciting. The same is true for sexual partners in my book. But these are pretty big topics where I don't want to argue/change your views. I wanted to do this with incest, but it's drifting into a far more bigger picture than that.
 
Aug 16, 2018 1:05 PM

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It's a fetish everywhere in the world, though you see it plenty in anime

what's up with the threads about this topic?


Hmm... can you give thie tittle about anime incest? since you said IT PLENTY


man either learn how to actually type English or get off the forums, I don't even know what I just read
 
Aug 16, 2018 1:15 PM

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Spades said:

man either learn how to actually type English or get off the forums, I don't even know what I just read
he actually made a good point if you look closely
 
Aug 16, 2018 1:15 PM

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Spades said:
It's a fetish everywhere in the world, though you see it plenty in anime

what's up with the threads about this topic?
Yeah pretty much this if you go to any western porn website it is overwhelmingly dominated by incest videos.Also many tv fandom have very strong incest loving followers and fanfiction in this case among females.
 
Aug 16, 2018 1:21 PM

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OppaiSugoi said:
OP have you seen YnS tho, you just don't know.
Yes they dont know nothing!!! Must see anime if wanna be in this world https://myanimelist.net/anime/8861/Yosuga_no_Sora__In_Solitude_Where_We_Are_Least_Alone 100% recommended
 
Aug 16, 2018 1:22 PM

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Clanky72 said:
DeadOpossum said:


Do you understand what moral is? Moral is social norm. Iciest is not a social norm. So doing it you're lowering moral. Obvious.

Doing sex just for the sake of the feeling (like with a prostitute) is lowering of self-respect because she could go out with a guy she loves instead.

Fuck you're right about the Morals. I always thought "morally right" is synomonys with "doing no harm" or something along those lines. But if I got it right this time then lowering morale isn't really a bad thing, since you can lower morale and do no harm to anybody. And know that I learned that morals are social norms that means that they can be changed.

But I won't argue with you about the definition of love or out of which reasons people can enjoy sex. I personally think you can love more than just one person. Ideally you would love everyone on this world, but that's not humanly possible. I also think you can enjoy sex with a number of people. We're not eating the same meal everyday either, we want some change to keep it exciting. The same is true for sexual partners in my book. But these are pretty big topics where I don't want to argue/change your views. I wanted to do this with incest, but it's drifting into a far more bigger picture than that.


Yes, social norms are different in different societies, in some countries incest is ok, there is even a law in some of them that you must accept your sister as your wife if her husband dies. But these norms are considered to be rotten in most countries. The real problem with doing no harm is that after violating these norms you cannot look into people's eyes, and there is no way back. You did it, it is all over now. Only time can alleviate the pain somehow.

It is ok to love a lot of people, like mother loves her kids, or how you feel awesome close to some people, or you want to protect some girls because they're so cute and innocent... Our society has real trouble differentiating different kinds of love, so most people think love means you can have sex. Going into this trap can deal serious damage to your life.

Sorry, I was serious today on MAL, need to watch some ecchi.
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Aug 16, 2018 1:23 PM

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Studies show incest is instinctually avoided by animals to prevent giving birth to unhealthy offspring, and people have a social stigma towards it as well. It can significantly affect any current and future relationships with other friends/family/business. In other words, you're going to have a pretty tough life ahead of you if you commit to incest. So it's not recommended. However, if proper steps are taken to avoid reproduction between bro and sis, there's nothing "evil" about it. The thing about morals, is that everyone sees them differently since they are subjective. Incest doesn't bother me, but I find murder to be unacceptable.

I think I'll just stick to incest in fiction rather than take such risks irl, not worth it imo but for some love is worth risking it all, I respect that

ultravigo said:
Spades said:
It's a fetish everywhere in the world, though you see it plenty in anime

what's up with the threads about this topic?
Yeah pretty much this if you go to any western porn website it is overwhelmingly dominated by incest videos.Also many tv fandom have very strong incest loving followers and fanfiction in this case among females.


I agree, and here's the proof

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/BrotherSisterIncest/Anime

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrotherSisterIncest?from=Main.SiblingIncest

@kon it's not worth my time, if that was a joke though I laughed
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Aug 16, 2018 1:24 PM

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I don't mind it tbh , when talking about sisters , cousins , etc. But , the Mother-Son shit you see so often in doujins? Oh that's too much.


 
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Jare4lopez said:
I don't mind it tbh , when talking about sisters , cousins , etc. But , the Mother-Son shit you see so often in doujins? Oh that's too much.
It's very Freudian in nature, do many people just have problems with their moms?
 
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whats with the lack of it in western cartoons?
 
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