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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Great episode. Frederica sure is pretty. I loved the part where Wang explained his motives and reasoning behind taking up this operation. His little speech about how his hope for a few decades of peace could eventually evolve into something more lasting along with his take on the responsibility of each generation to keep that peace was really moving. Wang's a great guy. :) I hope this operation succeeds. |
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| This show continues to deliver. Shame not many people are checking this out. Great episode again and I just loved Yang and Mittermeyer's discussion. The writers are writing Yang's character pretty well compared to what I expected. Also lovely to see Frederica again. She was lovely in the original and for what I saw, here too. |
| Finally Schenkopp the stigmatized midlife! Frederica is as cute as always, but idk she could lay a Rosenritter low with bare hands.. |
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| The speech given by Wang was pretty cool. His motivation for this mission is imo inspirational. |
| "The one and only navigable route between the Alliance and the Empire" RIP PHEZZAN... Nah, I think Rubinsky & Co will definitely appear, just later on. It almost makes sense to omit them now, since the way things stand at the moment an invasion through there is politically impossible for either party anyway... The whole Econia discussion thing makes me happy I sat through Spiral Labyrinth. Must be a strange feeling for those who only watched the OVA though, suddenly not having absolute knowledge about what's going on. 2thuriel said: Frederica is as cute as always, but idk she could lay a Rosenritter low with bare hands.. Schenkopp did mention something about "dropping the act" to that guy, so we can assume that if nothing else, her "opponent" wasn't taking her seriously. I did like that she said nothing about the Rosenritters' behaviour being insulting to her; she only fought back because "how dare they act so inappropriately in front of Yang!". That's so in character for her it hurts. |
| "I stocked this for our last meal. So let's enjoy white rice tonight. But not all of it. We still have tomorrow and the day after that." ~Houjou San "Anywhere can be paradise, as long as you have the will to live. After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy." ~Ikari Yui "Life is suffering and pain. The world is cursed, its people are cursed, and yet we still wish to live." ~Osa |
| Damn Yang, why are you so awesome? His speech revealing his motives and beliefs over the current state of affairs was really well thought out. Frederica looks pretty beautiful and cute as an adult too. Schenkopp and Rosenritters made their debut and have a very dangerous mission to carry out. I liked Bewcock's brief appearance as well. |
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| They did a good job introducing the new characters and the Rosenritter. In the novel they were just on board of the ship with Yang and he started talking with Schönkopf about the plan when they were on their way to Iserlohn. Nice that they let Yang + Frederica visit the training facility of the Rosenritter - was better to introduce them there. Also - not mentioned in the novel - Yang knew Patrichev and Murai (god is that new design awful compared to his old design which I liked a lot better worst change from the old stuff ... other chars I like even the new designs) from some past mission. This was shown in the 2nd gaidens (side stories) of the old OVA. (And I guess later in that side story novels.) But it was better to mention/hint at that already here - instead of just showing the new chars. Now some fun with Oberstein next episode. Then it will switch back to the empire. (Chapter 6 of the novel ... which was a bit long and later included Phezzan and then switching back to the alliance again.) Edit: I'm sorry if the last paragraph of my post offended someone. I know it says not to discuss about the manga (and means novels or other source material as well with that) beyond the episode. I did not intent to "discuss". I just wanted to summarize/compare ... and I think I did it without spoilers. (Just saying how the point of view switches from one side to the other isn't really telling anything about what's going to happen. With "fun" for Oberstein I just meant that he is going to get screen time a bit. Since I like him it is going to be fun. Not telling what's going to happen. Since he already appeared at the end of this episode ... and he is shown as main char on the official website - 5 chars for each side they showed "big" at the chars section ... it should not really be a big spoiler at this moment to tell that he is going to get a bit screen time.) |
LuthandoriusMay 8, 2018 10:24 AM
ThreadFazer said: Can people spoil me.. Does yang end up with frederica?? or jessica?? Cause i ship him so hard with jessica. |
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| Great episode. Yang's speech about securing a peace for future generations was great and inspiring. Frederica is really cute and badass, hope she and Yang will be a great team. Also, this anime looks really beautiful, especially the space scenes. |
| Those guys were too rude to Frederica. |
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| Yang is such a great guy with honorable motives. I really enjoy the dialogues and world building so far and I honestly can't wait to pick up the original. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Good build-up for the next mission. Yang's speech was so inspiring, I'm really adoring his character. I'm itching to watch the OVA now. I wonder what Yang's plan is :o Excited for the next episode. |
Anutos said: "The one and only navigable route between the Alliance and the Empire" RIP PHEZZAN... Nah, I think Rubinsky & Co will definitely appear, just later on. It almost makes sense to omit them now, since the way things stand at the moment an invasion through there is politically impossible for either party anyway... It's not wrong to state that. These two nations only share borders on Iserlohn. |
| WTF did they do with Murai and that beard? That's really going to take some getting used to! And Schonkopf really is lacking a bit of the GAR manliness. Too bishie for my taste. Aya Endo's voice is sexy as always though. I don't know if its the best fit for Frederica's character, but I always enjoy hearing her. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Oh, Yang's stratagem is shifting into gear. His subordinates seem interesting, Frederica is as cute as those around her claim. As cute as she is able, actually, although her connection to Yang is intriguing as well. I did not expect the shifty Imperial intelligence guy to make an appearance so soon. I wonder, to what extent will the rivalling Imperial commanders heed his advice? |
| This was some good build-up for the next episode. The speech Yang gave was truly amazing and inspiring. His motives are honorable. Frederica is quite pretty. Hopefully this operation is successful. |
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| Best character ever being best character ever. Also I have been waiting for the thor hammer to be animated. It didn't disappoint although it was way too short, then again it's just first showing. PS: I love how those episode all focus on Alliance side one episode after another. It's not only because I always found Alliance and Yang much more interesting and better overall but also it's much easier to get invested when there is one storyline going on. This is especially true when you watch weekly. |
eso18 said: FPA episodes are good because of Yang. without Yang, FPA is just really boring since it's full of boring and incompetent characters. Empire as a whole is more interesting since side-characters are more interesting there.Best character ever being best character ever. Also I have been waiting for the thor hammer to be animated. It didn't disappoint although it was way too short, then again it's just first showing. PS: I love how those episode all focus on Alliance side one episode after another. It's not only because I always found Alliance and Yang much more interesting and better overall but also it's much easier to get invested when there is one storyline going on. This is especially true when you watch weekly. |
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| Alas, they omitted Yang's (in)famous speech about drinking tea and not dying. I know it's OVA-original but it really captured his personality so well. I still cannot get used to the new character designs though. Murai and Blumhardt are totally unrecognisable! Otherwise, it's a pretty good adaptation. |
AdrianRubinsky said: Anutos said: "The one and only navigable route between the Alliance and the Empire" RIP PHEZZAN... Nah, I think Rubinsky & Co will definitely appear, just later on. It almost makes sense to omit them now, since the way things stand at the moment an invasion through there is politically impossible for either party anyway... It's not wrong to state that. These two nations only share borders on Iserlohn. "Phezzan is practically its own, sovereign nation" is basically what I meant by "politically impossible", though it's sometimes easy for me to forget about all the implications of that, since it IS an Imperial autonomy, technically speaking. Whoops? |
| "I stocked this for our last meal. So let's enjoy white rice tonight. But not all of it. We still have tomorrow and the day after that." ~Houjou San "Anywhere can be paradise, as long as you have the will to live. After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy." ~Ikari Yui "Life is suffering and pain. The world is cursed, its people are cursed, and yet we still wish to live." ~Osa |
| The adaptation staying strong. I really liked the new design of Iserlohn. Great visuals there. And, yes, Fezzan also exists. I'm sure it will be featured shortly. |
| Really disliking what they've done to the Rosenritter regiment and Walter. Turning them into stereotypical buffboy muscleheads and all that. All for the sake of playing up Frederica (and she hardly needs it). |
| Cheeky sneaky bastards! |
| The sword that takes life gives life |
| Not a fan of that scene with Frederica, but glad she is finally in the spotlight atleast. |
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| Meh Im really not a fan of the plot device ritters but their introduction in the original was better character wise imho. But atleast here we saw more than 5 of them. So far its as I guessed, the actual iserlohn part comes next ep. I am surprised though that they leave out Reinhard completely. Its probably gonna shift back after Iserlohn. I do have to say hating on the cgi will become my new hobby. Look at how much "character" the old designs had and how bland they are now. However Oberstein seems fitting. #Oberstein did nothing wrong. Having incompetent superiors sucks |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
DarkChaplain said: Really disliking what they've done to the Rosenritter regiment and Walter. Turning them into stereotypical buffboy muscleheads and all that. All for the sake of playing up Frederica (and she hardly needs it). I agree. I am surprised no one else is talking about this. In the OVAs they were introduced by SAVING someone from being harassed not vice versa. I would say this episode is the worst so far That being said, Yang is being Yang and that is always wonderful. They are doing him quite well. Also Iserlohn looks AWESOME, can't wait to see more action from Thor's Hammer in the next episode, I seem to remember it coming into play SOMEHOW <-- not a spoiler heck its use is foreshadowed in this episode. Luthandorius said: This was shown in the 2nd gaidens (side stories) of the old OVA. (And I guess later in that side story novels.) But it was better to mention/hint at that already here - instead of just showing the new chars. Darn, I haven't seen Spiral Labyrinth yet just Hundred Billion Stars and the two movies. |
| I loved the new episode as always! However, this is the first time I've been disappointed with some of the character changes. Most of the new character designs are different but I like the overall character/personality, such as with Cazellnu, and I've warmed up to the Neue versions of them. First off with Schonkopf, his Neue version seems very bland. In the OVA, Schonkopf gives off the impression of being the most macho/badass man in the universe. But this version of Schonkopf seems lacking. If OVA Schonkopf was a roaring tiger, then Neue Schonkopf is a house cat. Next is Frederica, and I know this'll offend the SJWs around here, but the whole beating up on the Rosen Ritter soldier was rather laughable and it's like the writers are trying too hard to make her some kind of badass when in the Novel/OVA she's know for her intelligence, not tossing around buff soldiers while defying physics. This seemed very out of character based on OVA/Novel Frederica and seemed forced. I like Neue Frederica's design, but not her attitude. The Novel/OVA Frederica was also more humble. Lastly, Murai had a unique design in the OVA, now he looks too generic. And they made Blumhardt pretty old compared to what he was in the OVA. I'm just being picky at this point. Glad to see Oberstein again. I like this version of him as much as I liked the OVA version, maybe more. I hate complaining, but I'm still loving this remake overall! Looking forward to the next episode as always! |
PalmtopKaiser said: DarkChaplain said: Really disliking what they've done to the Rosenritter regiment and Walter. Turning them into stereotypical buffboy muscleheads and all that. All for the sake of playing up Frederica (and she hardly needs it). I agree. I am surprised no one else is talking about this. In the OVAs they were introduced by SAVING someone from being harassed not vice versa. I would say this episode is the worst so far Agreed, this was an annoying change they made in Neue to the Rosen Ritters. In the OVA, the Rosen Ritters showed up and saved a young waitress who was being harassed by a a group of jackasses (OVA Episode 6). The Neue version had the situation reversed just to make Frederica look tough. Very disappointed with this decision by the writers. |
| There was nothing at the end of the episode to give it the cliffhanger it deserved; the episode just kinda ended at a convenient point before the infiltration. They didnt explain the Iserlohn Fortress' features that are supposed to make it impossible to capture; which is a major point in Yang's strategy. RIP narration. |
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| Damn. Another Yang episode. I'm starting to miss the Empire buddies XD |
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thesarcasticguy said: Are they changing the sequence of events or are they just skipping Over Reinhard's parts because they didn't show Reinhard forming his new Admiralty and they skipped over the Kastorp rebellion.... In the novel those events happen after Iserlohn rather than before it. We'll likely see it in episode 8. |
| Fredrica really does look pretty. I’m looking forward to their plan in action! |
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| Hope we get an Empire episode soon. |
| I love it when Stark700 isn't the creator of the thread <3 Anyways, SOOOO nice!! I'm really excited to see how they capture the planet (?). The team is really well rounded and it was nice to see all these new characters. |
| Holy shit anime death star! Accidentally drop my meat-bun. |
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| Animation looks exquisite in some scenes, but with others, unfortunately, it looks rather unrefined. Hopefully the animators can maintain a better level of excellence moving forward. That being said, however, this was the best episode thus far. I wonder if we will continue w/ Yang's side of the story for the remainder of this season, or if Reinhard will have more time to shine. Also, are they planning on introducing the planet of Fezzan and its leader (Rubinsky) in the near future?... Guess I'll have to stay tuned. :) |
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