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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Good episode. Really liked Wang, hope to see more of him in the series. I loved how he found a strategy to survive even though his fleet was at a huge disadvantage. Reinhard was pretty smart in responding to Wang's countermeasure as well. I find it kinda ironic that the Vide Admiral of the alliance after being injured tells Wang that the fleet needs his skill as a tactician and yet he refused to listen to all of Wang's advice until that moment. I really liked the fact that Reinhard sent Wang a message of respect after their battle. There's a post credit scene as well depicting Reinhard's promotion. |
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| Gonna say, they continue to have an epic scale in the space battles, pretty cool to look at. Yang was able to withstand from an inferior position due to his mindset of not necessarily wanting to win and made it a stalemate. |
| I was legit surprised when the episode credits came thinking I was only about half way through. Damn those 25 minutes went by fast. Very entertaining. |
| The opening reminds me of an old 80's song by Starship, "Nothing's Gonna Stop us Now" As a novel reader and long time fan of the OVA, I must say I'm quite enjoying this and hope to encourage old school viewers to come at this with an open mind. This adaptation is respectful of the source material and they're doing an ok with the characterizations. The battles (once you get used to the cheap CGI) benefit from the new dynamism that modern animation can provide and while the music can not match the classical score, it's still suitable and non distracting. No over the top dubstep or vocal tracks during the show. Look forward to seeing and hearing some of the other characters now. |
FarabeufApr 10, 2018 7:35 AM
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| War and politics are two genres that I really like in anime, so I'm enjoying this series so far. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
| This is definitely already showing a quality I really love, but only few anime have, that is to say having two opposing sides and not trying to paint either of them as the 'wrong' or 'evil' side, instead having two sides that both just want to do what they consider the correct course of action to be. Also, we seem to now finally get a some context for this battle with the next episodes... I personally would've much preferred to FIRST get the context and THEN have the battle, since I still hate in-medias-res openers, but as long as they properly explain things, I suppose I can't give them too much shit for it. Did Mr.DeathFlag on Yang's side die or not? He wasn't brought up again, but considering the massive death-flag he randomly pulled, I can't help but be interested, lol. |
| Liked it. So they showed stuff that happened the same time as episode 1 instead of omitting it. About in the mid of the episode they were near the end of episode 1 I think and episode 1 was a bit faster there until Reinhard realized that the enemy had a plan while we got to see more of it from the alliance point of view. Also some chars shown with their names (Fischer and the guy that survived and was lucky in the past). After the ending we saw some other chars in the palace. (Mittermeyer and Reuenthal I think. And some of those older guys ... I think Mückenberger and the others ... there were 3 of them with some kind of special position at top of the military I think.) I guess Trunicht will get 1st screentime next episode? We also heard about Jessica and Yang calling Lap (or Laap or Lapp) by his first name to hint their friendship. Also I noticed: Ending picture moved in the opposite direction (starting at Yang -> Reinhard) this time. |
| Great episode. I'm thrilled to see one of my favorite characters of all time, Yang Wen-li, back in action. He is such an interesting character to witness and his attitude really makes him feel unique in this show. This is not just some battle shounen where fights go forever and the actual tactics are useless. This is Legend of the Galactic Heroes. And the tactics used to outwit and defeat their oppositions is great to see. Also the music improved for me this episode with some of it coming closer to the original style. 9/10 episode for me. I'm still worried about what they can achieve in 12 episodes but so far, I'm enjoying the ride. |
| Nice episode. I liked how they portrayed the battle with the use of CGI, gives the show another dimension and something a bit different than what the original OVA could offer. Yang's new voice will take some getting used to, but otherwise everything was quite nice. |
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| Also to mention: I just checked episode 1 and episode 2 at the end where it shows the name of the following episode. There is an alliance logo in 1->2 and the empire logo in 2->3. Meaning the next episode might have more focus on the empire again. And ending starting from the left (Reinhard) to move towards the right. |
| Yang outwitted Reinhard, cool. That message was nice, respect is a good thing. |
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RyuuSasakura12 said: Think of Paetta as a kind man that doesn't want to abandon his comrades, Yang's strategy was to abandon the 4th fleet and Paetta doesn't want that then when he knew that the other fleet is destroyed he knew Yang has a way out of that. I wouldn't say that. He outright rejected the first proposal of "not losing" by Yang. Refusing to abandon the 4th fleet is because he couldn't accept the fact he was wrong. Yang prepared counterstrategies right after that to avoid the worst case scenario of losing all the fleets. He is the one who didn't want to abandon any fleet. |
| It seems the plan is to cut the time needed to make a full adaptation. Reinhard promotion to fleet admiral was done in a minute. I'm not sure how it will affect characterization in the long run. Let's see the later episodes. If they cut out I will be certain that characterization will take a hit. For this episode I will give 5/5. |
| Great episode. Yang did a decent job trying to turn things around. The battle was going in circles lol |
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| I'm relieved the subs fixed that translation error from the 1st episode (you know, the one in Yang's speech to the Alliance fleet, where he apparently thought that telling struggling soldiers "I will not lose" rather than "we will not lose" was a good idea); I've seen some people holding it up as "proof" that this adaptation got his personality all wrong and is thus terrible, so it's nice to have that cleared up. Of course, DNT might still turn out to be bad, but we haven't seen anything truly atrocious yet and some things are even better here than in the OVA (I especially loved the treatment they gave Lapp this time around). I'm optimistic. Also, it was nice to see Oskar & Mitts in the post-credits scene. They weren't named, they didn't say anything, they didn't even move, but it still made me happy. |
| "I stocked this for our last meal. So let's enjoy white rice tonight. But not all of it. We still have tomorrow and the day after that." ~Houjou San "Anywhere can be paradise, as long as you have the will to live. After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy." ~Ikari Yui "Life is suffering and pain. The world is cursed, its people are cursed, and yet we still wish to live." ~Osa |
| This anime is so good, I don't know why elitist oldfags are hating this remake. I got so bored watching the old OVA, but this is just exciting to watch. |
Cross  AngeHey guys check my profile for current airing season anime recommendation (guaranteed best taste) |
| Its seems like this battle had a mixture of My Conqyest is the Sea of Starts material, which is a interesting choice to do Looks like Reingard is getting the focus again next episode also |
| Sup... |
| Liked the first episode,but wow this was even better,I haven't seen the original,but Production I.G is doing a great job at making this entertaining. Nice move from Reinhard at the end,looking forward to their next duel. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| tbh this was way more memorable than the old version, although I've watched it several years ago(on hold now) and don't remember a single thing about it |
| The battle was done pretty well. Yang Wen-Li managed to turn the battle into a stalemate after the poor strategic tactic and arrogance of his commander who turned the FPA's numerical advantage into dust. Despite the stalemate though, the Empire had less cassualties overall. I liked the message Reinhard send to Yang showing his respect on the battlefield. A rivalry begins. Pretty good adaptation thus far. |
MonkeyDHunterApr 10, 2018 9:09 AM
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| Yang was quite impressive in this episode. He managed to end the battle into a stalemate. They were going around in circles lol. Looking forward to see more of what he can do. I liked the message Reinhard send to Yang. He got a promotion at the end. |
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| The battles in this are good but the music is kinda annoyingly repetetive and feels uninspired, more so in battles cuz outside battles it's fine and even though while I'm not a fan of Yang's new younger desgin I have to say his new VA is spot on. |
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| Decent episode I suppose, always like some Yang strategics. Seems faithful but they are just cutting a lot for the sake of time which is understandable. |
| Well, it's still less of a mess than the OVA version (not much of a challenge as far as this battle is concerned, I know). The remake was somewhat better than this, though. I wouldn't pass judgment on this adaptation until at least episode 5. |
| Didn't expect this, episode 2 is much more better than episode 1. I didn't find a single Qwality moment here. Thanks to the ships CGI, animator could work on character detail really well. The ost and battle is pretty nice. |
cunninglinguist said: you're late to the party XD https://streamable.com/s4b0f Farabeuf said: The opening reminds me of an old 80's song by Starship, "Nothing's Gonna Stop us Now" As a novel reader and long time fan of the OVA, I must say I'm quite enjoying this and hope to encourage old school viewers to come at this with an open mind. This adaptation is respectful of the source material and they're doing an ok with the characterizations. The battles (once you get used to the cheap CGI) benefit from the new dynamism that modern animation can provide and while the music can not match the classical score, it's still suitable and non distracting. No over the top dubstep or vocal tracks during the show. Look forward to seeing and hearing some of the other characters now. Ha,ha,ha, RFLMAO...love it...Better late to the party than never. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Why did they replace Dusty with Lao? |
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Zura_Orokamono said: Why did they replace Dusty with Lao? Because they're doing a more faithful adaptation of the novels. Apparently, Dusty doesn't appear until much later in them, so... |
| "I stocked this for our last meal. So let's enjoy white rice tonight. But not all of it. We still have tomorrow and the day after that." ~Houjou San "Anywhere can be paradise, as long as you have the will to live. After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy." ~Ikari Yui "Life is suffering and pain. The world is cursed, its people are cursed, and yet we still wish to live." ~Osa |
| Ahh, this went by so fast (that is a good thing btw). You can't describe all the tons of space ships moving with nothing other than the word "epic". Gotta say, I really like Yang who was able to predict the outcome of the battle ahead of the time. Looks like he has already built up his reputation a bit beforehand. I find it funny that they brought the battle into a stalemate by going around in circles, lol. Kircheis is right: It really does look like a silly formation. Looking forward to episode 3! |
"If you have time to think of a beautiful end, then why not live beautifully until the end?"- Sakata Gintoki, Gintama  |
| Not bad. I like Yang's voice actor - he nails his lackadaisical demeanor perfectly. Not a fan of his character design, which is a little too bland (although I do get that they were going for "unassuming" here, Yang manages that in the original whilst still having a distinctive appearance). It did a good job of establishing his personality and ability. It also gave a little more justification for the FPA's incompetence in the first episode, making some of their poor tactical decisions the product of misplaced noble intentions instead of pure idiocy. The novel goes into more detail about the mindset of the FPA captains that lead to their complacency, and with that being left out the other two fleets still seem idiotic for falling into Reinhard's ploy, but it's still an improvement. Not sure how it compares to the original anime, I don't really remember how The Battle of Astarte played out there since it's been about 7 years since I saw that. Good use of music as well here, it lent to the increasing sense of tension as Yang executed his plan. It seems to know where to show restraint and where to be all-out bombastic, which I'm pleased about since the presence of both Miyano and Sawano made me expect full-on pomp for the entire duration. Disappointed by the character designs for Reuenthal and Mittermeier as seen in the post-credits, though. Mittermeier's is just bland, whereas Reuenthal's hair is godawful. I also still dislike how dull Kircheis seems in this version, not really standing out from Reinhard (hell, he almost looks like a pallet-swap of him) whereas in the original he had more of a dynamic with him and they showed clearly distinct personalities. Nonetheless, still pleasantly surprised by how passable this adaptation is. Also, Anutos said: Yeah, many of Dusty's earlier appearances were anime-original. Shame, he's one of my favourite characters in the OVA series.Zura_Orokamono said: Why did they replace Dusty with Lao? Because they're doing a more faithful adaptation of the novels. Apparently, Dusty doesn't appear until much later in them, so... |
LindleApr 10, 2018 10:36 AM
Anutos said: Because they're doing a more faithful adaptation of the novels. Apparently, Dusty doesn't appear until much later in them, so... Signifie said: From what I've heard Dusty wasn't on the ship in the novel and doesn't show up until the third book. Thanks for clarifying! Too bad though, he was a better presence. |
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| Incredible episode, in my opinion. |
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| I noticed that in this adaptation they're avoiding showing an actual people being killed (they showed people after they have dead). One thing that slightly bother me as well is that the command center (?) feels pretty empty. I don't think it was supposed to be this empty in the original. The rest are pretty decent though, adaptation wise. We're still going to go through the adaptation of mediocre first quarter of story until we will get into the great stuffs (tm) |
| I really think this should have been a double episode. Separating the perspectives was never going to work fully, and here they had various scenes that were shared again. On the pacing, I don't think it was bad, but it is very noticeable that due to the way they cut this opening arc up, they managed to get less in the same time as the original OVA (No Phezzan whatsoever, Jessica, no scenic death for Jean, no graveyard scene, nothing with Annerose....). A lot of things that are missing right here make me think that they may be ommitted altogether in this adaptation, and the work will be worse off for it. Seeing how they addressed Reinhard's promotion after the ED, I'm already worried about missing out on the court intrigue elements that went hand in hand with it. If they don't expand on that in episode 3, and have Friedrich IV talk to Reinhard directly, I'll be sorely disappointed. Thankfully the title teaser for episode 3 makes it clear we'll focus again on the empire/Reinhard, but that makes the death of Jean and the devastation of Jessica both less likely to happen and less impactful yet again... The novels have, from the start, been hopping perspectives between the three main powers (FPA, Galactic Empire and Phezzan), going back and forth as the unfolding events required it. I don't think handling any of them in isolation for entire episodes is a good idea, and it'll crumble down the further in we get here. I like that they added the on-screen names for characters (though the subs were poorly chosen for those, too small by far and the grey made them rough to read), and having Lao in there was a good choice, though I can't say I disliked that the OVA changed it to Dusty. I do wish that they had focused less on making a visually bombastic space battle and more on the strategic overview, though. |
| We got Yang's perspective this time. He is such a good character, I love him. Great episode, it went by so fast and I had goosebumps throughout the whole battle. Seems we'll have Galactic Empire focused episode next week. |
| I'm pleasantly surprised. I was expecting them to royally screw up the adaptation since they revealed the character designs, but this is actually really good. I think I liked these two episodes even more than the original version of this battle (though not as much as the movie that compacted it a little). |
| Great episode. Can't wait to see those 2 fight again. |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| The animation in this battle was perfect! So much fun to watch! I'm really loving the remake so far. Seems I got the original for the amazing story and the remake for the awesome animation! This is a win situation for me. :) Also, I can't stop laughing at the scene when Reinhard yells "What a stupid looking formation!". I find the moment very amusing. |
| This episode was better than that last I guess its because Yang Wenli is the best character in the series. I have to say seeing him walk and talk his character design is not half bad although I prefer his OVA look more. I feel like if it keeps this up it will be almost as good as the original OVA series. I like how in this weeks ending it started with Yang and ended with Reinhard. Next week we should be seeing Annerose and tbh I prefer how her character designs are in this reboot compared to the OVA. uping my score from a 5 to a 6 for now. Steadily improving... |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| I’m surprised how much I’m enjoying this series. Episode 2 was stronger than the first, mostly due to their excellent portrayal of Yang. It was also visually beautiful looking. My only issue is pacing. I don’t want them to rush through important events which help develop characters and motivate future behavior. Legend of the Galactic Heroes is a show very much about slowly building up events to an epic conclusion. |
Gundam_SageApr 10, 2018 6:59 PM
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