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Prog_upworks13 said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Best episode? Nah, I'd still say that's episode 11. In terms of a standalone story, anyways. This episode only revealed what we already knew, and literally nothing else. Yeah it's predictable . But the way their executed it to make this one is the best episode is totally brilliant. Everything is really stunning . I'd still put episode 11 above it, it terms of presentation. The animation was better, and it had development for 4 characters. |
| This is why people need to chill out in 24 eps or longer to get to the plot. But people today is so "high" on speed and need to have everything in thier face after 2 eps or the show is bad. Could feel this was coming from the beginning. |
Wasshio said: Tldr: Those are both opinions, end of story. It's not an opinion that its poor writing that we've got neither of what I said in 13 episodes of a 24 episode series. |
| Oof my heart watching this episode, wow. |
Sweanime said: This is why people need to chill out in 24 eps or longer to get to the plot. But people today is so "high" on speed and need to have everything in thier face after 2 eps or the show is bad. Could feel this was coming from the beginning. So it's not bad that we're over halfway into a series and we've got no central plot, no world building and surface level character development for most of the cast? |
| episode 13 - the plot kicks in, lol i really don't get why this show get so much love with such poor development pace |
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Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Prog_upworks13 said: Yeah it's predictable . But the way their executed it to make this one is the best episode is totally brilliant. Everything is really stunning . I'd still put episode 11 above it, it terms of presentation. The animation was better, and it had development for 4 characters. ok. Seems we have a different opinion. |
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| 10/10 I knew this show had potential. |
I witnessed a loli spill from a cartridge and somehow retained my sanity. |
| This episode was top-tier. Everything about Zero Two's behavior and character is now crystal clear ! Man that ending gave me chills down my spine ! I love this |
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| Anyone else find it incredible that 002 thought that she was using Hiro just to get to her “darling” and would sacrifice a countless amount of people just to get to him, but now Hiro is the one that all her sacrifices have led to and she’s almost sacrificed him for him |
| "For you to love someone, and for them to return that love, well that is the greatest miracle of all" -Kotarou Azumi, Tsuki ga kirei |
Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Sweanime said: This is why people need to chill out in 24 eps or longer to get to the plot. But people today is so "high" on speed and need to have everything in thier face after 2 eps or the show is bad. Could feel this was coming from the beginning. So it's not bad that we're over halfway into a series and we've got no central plot, no world building and surface level character development for most of the cast? Sorry don´t know what you talking about IMO. Have got a lot of details about the world, plot and characters. Not everything but can piece things together if you pay attention to details. And personally I would not like to know all the plot either after 12 episodes. Want to have parts by parts to think for myself. And most of the cast I see as side characters and only need surface development. When you are near 30 years old you only need surface development because you have meet all kinds of people already. That you can identity their problems and characters easy anyway. Like Zero-two in this episode was for me quite clear in the second episode why she would be like she is. It´s more like a "little" deeper cliche characters. Even if characters like zero-two sometime is rare in Anime. In contrast in Ichigo that is like a walking copy of hundreds. (Angel beats for example only have more or less one eps per characters. Still good) |
SweanimeApr 7, 2018 1:29 PM
| This episode was amazing! I guess Zero Two was more resilient towards the memory erase (perhaps because of her regeneration abilities) and regained her memories much faster than Hiro. I like Hiro's personality a lot more before the erase so hopefully he will start returning to his old self now. |
| Great episode. Zero Two was so cute when she was little. I hope Hiro and Zero Two's love story doesn't end like the beast and the prince. |
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| Bloody hell Trigger, you really deliver when it counts. Well done! This is how you do "feels" without manipulative, forced pathos. Really look forward to seeing how it goes from here. But seeing that picture book story, I'm pretty certain the chances for a happy ending are close to 0. We'll get bittersweet at best. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| This was like the Your Name ending gimme the next episode now |
| I have not had a full episode of any anime keep me at the edge of my seat quite like this one in a long time. I did not even realize we're at the end when it ended. The interactions between the two, the book, the tears at the end. My goodness. Even the soundtrack was so incredibly well orchestrated. I cannot wait for the next episode. Although I feel like they beat around the bushes more than a bit until this episode, this was great and may itself have been worth the wait. I do note, however, that the book had a very sad ending: the princess in the end began to turn into a real monster (more so than she once was). She went to the witch, who said she had to kill the prince. She went to the prince's bed, and by this point had basically become a horrifying looking monster. Unable to bring herself to harm him, she kisses him and flies away, leaving black feathers on the bed. And the heartbroken prince was never able to find her. I honestly would be very, very annoyed if this was a foreshadowing of Franxx's ending. |
Farabeuf said: Bloody hell Trigger, you really deliver when it counts. Well done! This is how you do "feels" without manipulative, forced pathos. Really look forward to seeing how it goes from here. But seeing that picture book story, I'm pretty certain the chances for a happy ending are close to 0. We'll get bittersweet at best. This episode was made by the majority of A-1 staff. Past episode was made by Trigger. |
| Funny how children books always fit whatever messed up crap is going on in any series huh... Putting that aside, was there anything in this episode that wasn't obvious the moment they revealed MC and MCunt met before? Turns out doggystyle mecha piloting thing is here so there would be at least one original thing in this show. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| Aww now I can ship them in good conscience. Zero Two was so cute!!! |
| Loved this episode! My favorite so far. I'm glad we finally got to see how 02 was in the past, but the way the adults treated her was quite painful to see! I thought Dr. Franxx was a decent guy but this episode proved that he's just some mad scientist who sees the kids as experiments! Seeing both Hiro & Zero two as kids was nice, they were so adorable!! Especially Zero two, she's so cute!!   It also now makes sense looking back such as the reason she likes sweet things, when she asked him to run away with her, why she's okay with the name Zero Two etc + With Hiro remembering how cruel the adults are, I hope we get to see a Rebellion Arc! Gah it ended with a cliffhanger, can't wait to see what will happen now that Hiro finally remembered her! I also hope it doesn't end like the picture book, after all what both of them went through, they deserve to be together ;; |
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renrinken said: caio_ken said: This episode was made by the majority of A-1 staff. Past episode was made by Trigger. Sadly this issue we saw this attitude sense episode 1. Fanboys seem to attribute anything positive that comes out of Franxx to Trigger, and anything Negative to A-1. Ironically enough its mostly opposite. Most of the solid episodes that really salvaged the show largely rests on A-1 shoulders. Seriously? People are really doing this when they don't even know what studio picked the episode? That's really stupid. And I agree that the A-1 episodes for the most part has been the better ones, even if Trigger is also doing a good job with their episodes. |
| I must say it was probably the best ep so far. Moreover it is filled with so many emotions. Especially the last ending scene where both characters were able to recover their memories, so she finally recognized him as her true darling, prince from the book, shedding mountain of tears. Now I can't wait for the next episode. |
firemagnet said: In what way is the show a failure at intelligent writing at this point? Rather, look at this guy's analysis of episode 12 and tell me that all the themes, emotional references, and then tell me again that the show is somehow not "written intelligently" Did the show ever bother establish why they need two pilots for the mechas? Did the show ever bother establishing why girls has handles attached to their hips boys have to grab to drive? What kind of power source is Franxx using and why is the power cut right after the girl is removed from the cockpit. Why can a girl can control a Franxx in "berserk" state without a need for a boy? Plot convenience? But the boy has to sit in there and wait to be rescued? Plot convenience maybe? Finally, what is Klaxosaur and where do they come from? Another plot convenience? The way the story is told is rather artificial, everything we know so far is just a pretext for the sake of plot convenience. Not to mention over sexualisation for no god damn reason. I dont know about you, but I've seen this trope far too many times to care about their half arsed execution. Think back to Deadman Wonderland, Guilty Crown, Elfen Lied and Eureka Seven. You speak of emotions, but in order to feel something about 02, we must first be made to care about her. But I can hardly bring myself to care about someone who only cares about herself. Like at first, she was all high and mighty, but her easy going and fun loving behaviour was quite endearing, so we could give her a pass on the rest. But she never really bonded, or tried to bond with neither MC or the side characters. Instead she started acting like a bitch towards everyone because her horns and fangs grown a little? The whole flashback about her, it was rather predictable. In fact, the little monster was so adorable that I would rather watch another 12 episodes with both Hiro and 02 on the run. Instead we are going to have this whole 360 turn around for 02 where she might actually realise how she went ahead and fucked up? Then probably some fighting and another separation where big bad Dr. Franxx will attempt to use 02 to fix the mistake he made 100 years ago, or something. firemagnet said: Also, I'm not grasping at straws; he literally names her Zero-Two in this episode after seeing her ankle bracelet. Maybe by japanese standards zero two is a name, but by European standards that's just two digits. Hence why, NOT A NAME. firemagnet said: Your reaction to that scene leads me to believe that you weren't paying attention and didn't really watch the episode, much less the show. It's quite clear that they're having their memories erased; Doctor Franxx even orders it as such, and only keeps Hiro alive because he's "an interesting test subject." Potato, tomato. Call it whatever you want, somebody is messing with their brains. |
ZingFreelancerApr 7, 2018 2:43 PM
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firemagnet said: ZingFreelancer said: It would be much simpler if people would stop grasping at straws and just accept this show for what it is. A failure at intelligent writing. In what way is the show a failure at intelligent writing at this point? Rather, look at this guy's analysis of episode 12 and tell me that all the themes, emotional references, and then tell me again that the show is somehow not "written intelligently" Also, I'm not grasping at straws; he literally names her Zero-Two in this episode after seeing her ankle bracelet. One of the frames showed both of them being brainwashed or something. Your reaction to that scene leads me to believe that you weren't paying attention and didn't really watch the episode, much less the show. It's quite clear that they're having their memories erased; Doctor Franxx even orders it as such, and only keeps Hiro alive because he's "an interesting test subject." LMAO that fucking video cant be serious. Darling In the franxx ep 12 analysis and the guy has a fucking whiteboard behind him in the miniature with "klaxosaur threat" written on it is that actually serious I'm dying XDD Why are people around here so insecure about what they watch? |
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| Watched the episode, came here and read all 187 messages, what? already I am at the end of messages as I reached to end of episode without noticing! Heartwarming-crushing episode! I wasn't expected this much. Zero Two is pointing the picture book while Hiro is licking her wound. It is so metaphorically beautiful! Both of them are so cute here! I also feel that Hiro, Ichigo, Goro, Mitsuru were so close friends at their childhood moments than now. Time to see how will other team members react to this erasing memories, especially Mitsuru? Some members are criticizing the series as 'move along; nothing to see here' kind. The show is fascinating me and sending shock waves to my emotion/mind domain. What else? My only complain is 'not having enough mecha battles; (after Super Robot Wars feast of mine, I was looking for 'give me a reason to deploy this cool robot of mine and explode everything! Story? Who cares?!' kinda show, but I hope Full Metal Panic will lick my wounds.) |
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