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Apr 6, 2018 8:24 AM

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So they had to reuse some footage from the series for the second OP song. Sigh. I like the first OP song better.

It's also about damn time that Aishela returned. I almost forgot she existed in this show

More politicial drama..
Surprisingly, I think Theo makes a somewhat decent leader. Starting an uprising is not easy.
 
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Apr 6, 2018 9:22 AM

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Stark700 said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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It's also about damn time that Aishela returned. I almost forgot she existed in this show


That reminds me: Does anyone recall what happened to Irvin the butler?
 
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Apr 6, 2018 9:53 AM

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That reminds me: Does anyone recall what happened to Irvin the butler?


No, he's fine. In fact, he's fighting on Theo's side.

 
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Apr 6, 2018 9:57 AM

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That reminds me: Does anyone recall what happened to Irvin the butler?


No, he's fine. In fact, he's fighting on Theo's side.



But where was he between then and now?
 
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Apr 6, 2018 10:16 AM
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Nain said:
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No, he's fine. In fact, he's fighting on Theo's side.



But where was he between then and now?


Maintaining his tan I guess?
 
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Apr 6, 2018 10:45 AM
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After so long Theo is finally back home. Quite the party he brought with him though. Nice to see Aishela again. Not to sure about the new opening though. Trying to inspire rebellion by revealing yourself to the enemy huh sound strategy. The scene at the restaurant sure enough of a provocation. Being on the receiving end of such hatred can't be easy. But the combination of Siluca's speech and Rebecca's pleading sure worked wonders. Rebecca managed to redeem herself in the end though. The death of one of the Rossini son's should send a clear message to them. Fitting that he died at the grave of Theo's father though.
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Apr 6, 2018 10:55 AM

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The new OP is okay, but the first one is better. It's good to see Aishela again. Theo is becoming quite the leader. His villagers got to help him defeat that guy. The battle was decent. Poor Rebecca.
 
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Apr 6, 2018 11:04 AM

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Maaan, that new OP simply rocks.
 
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Apr 6, 2018 11:39 AM

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I totally like the new ending. Okay, there's one scene from 1st one, but the rest I think was new?

And suddenly, with no baka-prince and baka-princess in the show (and Mirza too) it became soo enjoyable. It was really nice to see Theo and his mage. But ex-girlfriend was no-no so poor girl had to die, but the way it happened was actually neat.
Also, the feeling of Theo being rejected by everyone oppresed here, duh.

I enjoyed this episode pretty much.
 
Apr 6, 2018 11:41 AM
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Theo's back home with his posse and the childhood friend, Rebecca shows up but dies in the end...so from here on it's gonna be the Sistina arc.....
 
Apr 6, 2018 11:44 AM

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Seems like I am the only who like this opening better... even though they reused scenes. I loved the previous ending more though.

I didn't enjoy all those political dialogues at the most part of the episode but now I find Theo character better than when he was first introduced.

The action part was mostly great, I loved the little fight between the assassins, we need more 1vs1 fights like this, just longer.

3.5/5 I think it was fine overall, looking forward to seeing what next.
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Apr 6, 2018 11:52 AM

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In my opinion I totally love this OP better than the first. Sad they re-used visuals, but the song is amazing.
2D > 3D
 
Apr 6, 2018 11:52 AM

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when will they push back? too one sided...
 
Apr 6, 2018 12:03 PM
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the op and ed rocks, not to say the first ones don't.
 
Apr 6, 2018 12:03 PM

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I dont understand why Theo & co didn't have any proper weapons. A short axe is no match for a broadsword
 
Apr 6, 2018 12:13 PM

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New OP music.. hm I still enjoy the first one more. Theo is back in action and the fight wasnt that good.
 
Apr 6, 2018 12:25 PM

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Theo surely defeat Salvador Rossini but at the price of Rebecca. Seems that where Theo go he leave behind a tragedy and a river of corpes, but i admit the death flag was blatant this time. :D
Anyway this episode was very well made and the tension was real from the start to the end. 5/5.
 
Apr 6, 2018 12:35 PM

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Good GOD the Rebecca's seyuu was atrocious >_< i dont often point out bad seyuus and i dont even notice it most of the time, but omg that voice, that acting.... is that her first role? On the bright side we wont be hearing her again, heh :)

Wasnt that big of a fan of the OP and new ED but at least new ED is listenable compared to the last one. Maybe its just me but i couldnt get any hype from it and i thought thats what new songs wanted to accomplish.

Also not sure if im the only one but i dont even know who Rossini's are >_< maybe im not following the story fully well.
 
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Woah. An actual improvement again. Grancrest is finally starting to look good in my eyes. Hoping that this positive flow continues.

Also, here we have another character much like the one in episode 3 who died without knowing much about them. RIP Character whose name I'll likely never remember.

Also that new OP and ED had amazing visuals OwO. Although the songs didn't feel better than the first ones but the visuals were certainly better!
 
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With Theo returning to his homeland in this episode, it will be interesting to see how he deals with the Rossinis. Something this episode does right is in portraying how oppressed people deal with their masters. We, as viewers, know oppression is wrong but it's understandable that the oppressed don't want to get in more trouble than they already are, considering what happened to Theo's father. I also feel bad that Rebecca had to die for the rest of Theo's village to take up arms; I feel her role could have been expanded in further episodes. Seriously, her fate was sealed the moment she grabbed Salvador. At least we know Theo didn't take her death lightly and will be further motivated to save his home.
 
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Theo killing Salvador was good and all.
But the whole revolution bit was mediocre to retarded.

What the hell was up wIth Rebecca? She went into a battlefied with a LADLE which she discarded before being stabbed to death. She could've gone for a preemptive strike with a real weapon and that doesn't explain how she made it there without getting speared by one of the 200 soldiers.

The writing is a contrived shitmess and the characters are legally retarded.
4/10 with some okay bits.
 
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Good GOD the Rebecca's seyuu was atrocious >_< i dont often point out bad seyuus and i dont even notice it most of the time, but omg that voice, that acting.... is that her first role? On the bright side we wont be hearing her again, heh :)

I didn't think Rebecca's seiyuu was bad.
It was nice hearing a more non conventional voice. She was a 1 ep side character for a reason I assume as well.
 
Apr 6, 2018 6:24 PM

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Huh I prefer this OP rather than the one that shout at me outta nowhere.
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Apr 6, 2018 7:44 PM
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An axe to the back, what a way to go. Poor Rebecca, sad to see her die but like others have mentioned, her voice actor was terrible! One of the worst I have probably seen in a series to date. Almost made me wish there was an English dub instead. Thank goodness shes gone from the series now.
 
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Im really curious as to what total war players thinks of this episode 1 unit of billmen with upgrades vs 1 unit of peasant with no upgrades
 
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Theo killing Salvador was good and all.
But the whole revolution bit was mediocre to retarded.

What the hell was up wIth Rebecca? She went into a battlefied with a LADLE which she discarded before being stabbed to death. She could've gone for a preemptive strike with a real weapon and that doesn't explain how she made it there without getting speared by one of the 200 soldiers.

The writing is a contrived shitmess and the characters are legally retarded.
4/10 with some okay bits.


I’m assuming they just grabbed what ever they could to use as weapons as I saw some woman with a frying pan. Given the situation I would imagine that would happen in real life.


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Hirugiku said:
Good GOD the Rebecca's seyuu was atrocious >_< i dont often point out bad seyuus and i dont even notice it most of the time, but omg that voice, that acting.... is that her first role? On the bright side we wont be hearing her again, heh :)

Wasnt that big of a fan of the OP and new ED but at least new ED is listenable compared to the last one. Maybe its just me but i couldnt get any hype from it and i thought thats what new songs wanted to accomplish.

Also not sure if im the only one but i dont even know who Rossini's are >_< maybe im not following the story fully well.


Is that Rebecca's seiyuu is new seiyuu? In the credit they only show her name as HARUKA ,but I couldn't find any informations about her on the net.
 
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kkusagami said:
Hirugiku said:
Good GOD the Rebecca's seyuu was atrocious >_< i dont often point out bad seyuus and i dont even notice it most of the time, but omg that voice, that acting.... is that her first role? On the bright side we wont be hearing her again, heh :)

Wasnt that big of a fan of the OP and new ED but at least new ED is listenable compared to the last one. Maybe its just me but i couldnt get any hype from it and i thought thats what new songs wanted to accomplish.

Also not sure if im the only one but i dont even know who Rossini's are >_< maybe im not following the story fully well.


Is that Rebecca's seiyuu is new seiyuu? In the credit they only show her name as HARUKA ,but I couldn't find any informations about her on the net.

yes, i think its a new seyuu, i also dont recognize her voice cause i definitely would remmeber such unprofessional voice
 
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Hirugiku said:
kkusagami said:


Is that Rebecca's seiyuu is new seiyuu? In the credit they only show her name as HARUKA ,but I couldn't find any informations about her on the net.

yes, i think its a new seyuu, i also dont recognize her voice cause i definitely would remmeber such unprofessional voice


ok thanks ,i read from some japanese forum as well,japanese also wonder who's that Rebecca's seiyuu too.
 
Apr 6, 2018 10:27 PM
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Theo come back to the place where he lives in.and well those rossini's sure is really having a tyrant like of govt that whoever is not on their side will be killed, thats why Lord Theo and group have a hard time convincing the villagers up until he went to his homeland.

*this just show leadership and politics can affect a certain village...
 
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Am I the only one who wants to know what is going on with the crests? I mean what is Theo's crest right now since he supposedly went to strengthen it before and now he killed the Rossini brat. I don't know I just would like a little more information on the crests since it is in the title.
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Apr 7, 2018 12:19 AM

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Next week againnnn...cmonn. this episode was lit tho. RIP Rebecca.
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Apr 7, 2018 1:21 AM
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I really like how Theo fight just with a small hand axe, but still manages to at least defeat several soldiers with armor even though his swordsmanship isn't really that good.
And also, how Theo kills Salvador looks pretty cool somehow.

 
Apr 7, 2018 3:55 AM

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well fuck! wanted Theo to behead him ..not stab him in the back.
 
Apr 7, 2018 9:10 AM
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And so things start to begin once again. At least one village has seen sense... I'm sure Theo will get more to follow him a bit more easily now. Got to find out why Theo really left the island to begin with. And yay to Aishela making a return. Gimme all that artist goodness. ;D
 
Apr 7, 2018 10:02 AM

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Finally, he is back to his homeland to free the people.
As it sounded i think that Rebecca and that old guy and some more people were the ones who betrayed Theo's father.
Can't wait for more episodes, this arc seems amazing!
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I found this episode so confusing and lacking. A lot of drama with very poor explanation of the reasons behind. It's a warfare anime but the strategy and reason is so lacking, it's like watching Star Wars version two where a single craft destroys an entire base with a handmade bomb. But here we have poor famished villagers going against a full organized army with rocks and bats and win at the end. It's plausible thing that the majority of the soldiers escaped as their leaders died but... Where was Theo's sword? Why did he go unarmed? To die like and imbecile? Is that what a future ruler should do? And then his fight with young Rossini... He won but was blocked by some random soldiers and Rebecca blocked the Rossini at the cost of her life... In my opinion was a forced kill to extract some more drama. Couldn't she be cured by the nun? A very strange episode.
 
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Well we got new op and ed, I liked the op song but the visuals are kinda sloppy imo, the ending was kinda meh but it wasn't that bad.

Now the episode was a little bit rushed imo, if the writters wanted us to feel sorry for Rebecca's death at least, it seems like Theo and she were a couple, or that at least she liked him a little because that's the only reason I see behind her death and its emotional impact for Theo. Good thing Theo killed Salvador.

Now, as a part of a pretty opressed country I can assure you that all the reactions from the villagers are the correct ones when it comes to reality; you can make them stand to defend their lives and futures only if you slap them with reality and guilt and show them a real leader to follow (at least a noble one).

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Am I the only one who wants to know what is going on with the crests? I mean what is Theo's crest right now since he supposedly went to strengthen it before and now he killed the Rossini brat. I don't know I just would like a little more information on the crests since it is in the title.

Well, if I remember correctly he gave most of his crest to Lassic when he decided to serve Villar and he probably got his crest back after Villars death. And about killing Salvador Idk, he probably needs to kill Pederico to get that crest.
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I'm glad they don't drag things out in this anime. The first Rossini has to die to set an example.

Where was Theo's sword?...

New OP

Siluca lookin' good as always.
 
Apr 8, 2018 12:11 AM
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OK so why didn't anyone have their own weapons and why wasn't the priest girl there to heal Rebecca.
 
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YEY, New OPENING! Was waiting this to happen after last episode was half-way Episode!
Hmm....say it's just OK OP....at least it is not spoiling much. .....1st one is better tough

Wow....entire Island is competently under Rossini Family thump....and that Witch is here....Wonder how the hell they are going to build that Rebellion....no one wants to fight....

Ah, childhood friend...new Rival for Siluca? and....damn....Theo's father was good man and someone Snitched... yeah understand the reasons Theo left completely.

Even Childhood friend is like this huh.....I start to feel this Island is hell to everyone else that is not Rossini...

....Well this ending was pretty freaking Cliche.....of course they start rebellion from Theo's home....
I was thinking that Rebeca will die tough.

1st Son down, 2 left along with the Father.
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NEW OP was okay but new ED is better than the prev ED!
errr...okay...so it's like they're back from square one finding allies huh...
at least we only have one casualty huh...
I wonder what happened to Ashiela's boytoy/boylet?
4/5.
 
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OK so why didn't anyone have their own weapons and why wasn't the priest girl there to heal Rebecca.


Exactly my thought on the healing part. Since Priscilla actually managed to heal Aishela when she almost died due to getting shot by the magic arrow cannons thing.

Makes no sense lmao~
 
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Im really curious as to what total war players thinks of this episode 1 unit of billmen with upgrades vs 1 unit of peasant with no upgrades


Hahah love this :D

Well, they did lose their leader. That always does a pretty big hit on morale! And really, Aishelle alone could probably defeat an entire unit of billmen :-P
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I wonder what happened to Ashiela's boytoy/boylet?


He's part of Lassic David's army, so I wouldn't expect him to be here. They still have to somehow survive against Marrine's armies!
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Aishela is obviously the resident warrior of the lot, she did wield a tree as a weapon, after all.

I'd like to take a moment here, though, to give Rebecca mad props for bringing a ladle out onto the battlefield. That is the by far, the most badass thing I've seen in a series this week.

RIP Rebecca.
 
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Im really curious as to what total war players thinks of this episode 1 unit of billmen with upgrades vs 1 unit of peasant with no upgrades


Yeah but they're like the 3/3 peasants with pitchforks and stuff, not them 1/1 scrubs.
 
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lol Theo the axeman now. They all really should return to proper weapons...
Rip random osananajimi. I wanted to see frying pan & other utensils in action tho...
Similarly nice op/ed.
 
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So I've seen the illustration of the last volume but I didn't see any image that might suggest what happen to the black princess

 
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Yeah the uprising seemed a bit hard to believe but I felt they developed it enough so at least we feel a bit sorry for Rebecca even though she basically double crossed both the villagers and Theo. Winning the fight definitely seemed quite implausible though....

Also it makes me remember what that other dude said about Theo..about having ppl die for him. Those villagers shouldn't have won that literal uphill battle to what looked to be at least 20 or so bowman and 40 or so spear man??? I mean, if you're gonna write that in, at least think of a rabbit out of a hat to turn the tables?
 
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