| "complaining promotes discussion" is probably the best excuse people give to bitch about things theyre supposed to be a fan of plus ofc negativity is what attracts the most attention, so its you're not bashing something, making fun of someone or something alone those lines, no one is really going to care unfortunately at least in the case of forums, no one wants to know how much someone enjoys something and yea, people take anime way too seriously in general and forget that its meant to target japanese culture and not their own |
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| I keep watching it because I am trying to find something enjoyable out of the show in which a good majority of people were saying it was good. |
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| I try to watch anime I know ill enjoy, so my scores aren't terribly low. So of course I enjoy watching anime. If I didn't, I wouldn't. |
| @ecchigodmamsterP hinata best girl. |
| i shouldnt need to try to enjoy anime, it should come naturally |
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| ... Yeah, I do try to enjoy it, but if a show I thought would be good ends up being bad, then I'm not going to pretend as if I liked it. I'll gladly rate bad anime as a 1/10. Also I should be able to complain about whatever I want, just like you are complaining about people who complain about anime. |
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| The main purpose of me watching anime is to be intrigued and entetained, I try not to be hyper critical and pessimisstic about thongs cause it takesnaway the fun. I totally get what you mean. |
| So, in shot, OP is being close minded and talking shit out of his ass |
| If I didn't enjoy it, then what would be the point in wasting time watching it? |
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| You're essentially saying why people give low scores to anime they watch. Hey, people critique regular movies and TV series all the time. People have different standards for what they consider good. Maybe the movie/anime/tv-series started out strong, but turned out bad towards the end? I've also given series a try in hope of delivery of said praise, yet didn't enjoy it. Everything you're saying can be applied to anything regarding entertainment. Entertainment is subjective. Some people appreciate well-written stories, others don't care too much. People expect different thing according to how well it's regarded by the public view. If something was considered bad by the general consensus from the get-go, people won't be as harsh because they expected it to be bad |
MonsterMar 20, 2018 8:02 PM
| I find it interesting that some would complain about something clearly tagged ecchi for having too much ecchi or about about a shounen series for being...well a shounen series. I won't go into some ecchi/harem series expecting some kind of deep plot anymore than I'd expect a slice of life series to have crazy fight scenes. If it happens, I'll just see it as an unexpected surprise. |
FanofActionMar 20, 2018 8:07 PM
| Anime fandom: Nobody can complain. Tbh, anime fans are thin-skinned. They may hate what they please. |
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gekko_13 said: @ecchigodmamsterP hinata best girl. no contest lol @MechaKnightDarek is it really more appealing to people to watch something they think sucks and bitch about how much they think it sucks than to actually find an anime they like? |
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EcchiGodMamsterP said: gekko_13 said: @ecchigodmamsterP hinata best girl. no contest lol @MechaKnightDarek is it really more appealing to people to watch something they think sucks and bitch about how much they think it sucks than to actually find an anime they like? Lets wrap all anime fans in plastic wrap to protect their feelings because they cannot stand people voicing a negative opinion on anime shows. Its almost like anime fans are becoming sport homers and are fragile to the slightest negativity. |
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Kagami said: EcchiGodMamsterP said: no contest lol @MechaKnightDarek is it really more appealing to people to watch something they think sucks and bitch about how much they think it sucks than to actually find an anime they like? Lets wrap all anime fans in plastic wrap to protect their feelings because they cannot stand people voicing a negative opinion on anime shows. Its almost like anime fans are becoming sport homers and are fragile to the slightest negativity. This. People shield anime from negativity because they're insecure of the anime they enjoy, hence project the criticism towards the critiques rather than accepting, argue or ignore it. Any TV entertainment can be criticized. Kagami said: EcchiGodMamsterP said: no contest lol @MechaKnightDarek is it really more appealing to people to watch something they think sucks and bitch about how much they think it sucks than to actually find an anime they like? Lets wrap all anime fans in plastic wrap to protect their feelings because they cannot stand people voicing a negative opinion on anime shows. Its almost like anime fans are becoming sport homers and are fragile to the slightest negativity. This. People shield anime from negativity because they're insecure about the anime they enjoy, hence projecting it towards the critics. It's fine to enjoy whatever you want, but don't try to make anime some safe haven. |
| You don't try to enjoy anime, you just enjoy it. Trying to enjoy it is already a signal that you don't enjoy it. |
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Kagami said: EcchiGodMamsterP said: no contest lol @MechaKnightDarek is it really more appealing to people to watch something they think sucks and bitch about how much they think it sucks than to actually find an anime they like? Lets wrap all anime fans in plastic wrap to protect their feelings because they cannot stand people voicing a negative opinion on anime shows. Its almost like anime fans are becoming sport homers and are fragile to the slightest negativity. stfu lol you know damn well i value freedom of speech and their freedom to bitch about anime is our freedom to question why and so on its people's freedom to make 1000 ecchi/fanervice threads, and its my freedom to tell them to fuck off |
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| You like it or you don't. There is no 'try'. - Some Jedi Master |
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EcchiGodMamsterP said: Kagami said: Lets wrap all anime fans in plastic wrap to protect their feelings because they cannot stand people voicing a negative opinion on anime shows. Its almost like anime fans are becoming sport homers and are fragile to the slightest negativity. stfu lol you know damn well i value freedom of speech and their freedom to bitch about anime is our freedom to question why and so on They voice their opinion on anime because that is their right as they consume media. /end thread |
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Monster said: This. People shield anime from negativity because they're insecure about the anime they enjoy, hence projecting it towards the critics. It's fine to enjoy whatever you want, but don't try to make anime some safe haven. Meh, the critics have every goddamn right to be challenged as well and it can also become just the inverse of what you're talking about here sometimes. People shield critics from criticism too much. Like, just sit back and think for a moment: People shield anime from negativity because they're insecure about the anime they enjoy, hence projecting it towards the critics. How is that any different than me walking into the thread and saying something like: People hate on a lot of anime only because they want to project an image of refined taste and only being able to enjoy the cream of the crop onto themselves to compensate for their feelings of inferiority. I don't believe in the horseshoe theory in application to politics, but I sure as hell believe in it when it comes to the topics like this. One side wants to be critical, one side wants to enjoy everything, both sides are too delicate to handle the existence of those opposite to them so as a result we get this kind of toxic, arrogant projection that just makes both sides seem like they function the same way and have the same endgoal of silencing dissenting voices and eradicating the other approach through sheer toxicity. Free speech, as usual, is being made an unnecessary casualty here and can just mean sticking up for one side or the other, so we have this wonderful concept being bastardized and exploited to oblivion and back, just to further some other narrative. Fuck's sake I just hate this whole board sometimes. Most of the time it feels like. |
ManabanMar 20, 2018 8:37 PM
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Kagami said: EcchiGodMamsterP said: stfu lol you know damn well i value freedom of speech and their freedom to bitch about anime is our freedom to question why and so on They voice their opinion on anime because that is their right as they consume media. /end thread yes and opinions are not immune from opinion get that "its just my opinion" bullshit outta here... if you say something someone doesn't like, then they can tell you all they want that they don't like it you can't claim anime shouldn't be immune from criticism then act as though criticism should be immune from criticism YES YES YES AND ITS BULLSHIT critics are not gods or authority |
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ItsXolo said: EcchiGodMamsterP said: plus ofc negativity is what attracts the most attention, so its you're not bashing something, making fun of someone or something alone those lines, no one is really going to care unfortunately at least in the case of forums, no one wants to know how much someone enjoys something I don't think this is necessarily true. If you go to some place like, say, r/anime, you'll find the amount of upvotes any given post has is directly proportional to how much forced positivity it has. Saying something bad about anything, unless it's a Hot Topic of the Week that everybody agrees on, will get you downvoted. On the contrary, being overly positive about basically anything will be heavily upvoted, regardless of what it is. Like you can literally just open any episode discussion thread, even for a show that you haven't seen, and post "OMG SO EPIC HYPE CANT WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK", and you'll get tons of upvotes almost certainly. This tells me that people do just like hearing about how much other people enjoy stuff. up votes? where? also, its hard to know just how large the positive silent majority truly is when its mostly whiny fucks who like to talk its like the youtube videos with 95% thumbs up but nothing but bitching in the comments, its likely that the vast majority of people like or love what theyre seeing but just don't feel the need to express it its pretty sad cause in a case like the anime community as it just reinforces the stereotype that anime fans are all depressed and hate themselves |
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Logarithmano said: I am just tired of seeing people complaining everyday about any anime for every possible reason, I mean, if you don't like it, why are you even watching or talking about it? just move on and find something you can enjoy. Everyone has the right to criticize a show. Criticism is a sort of entertainment for people. Like I knew School Days etc is shit, but I still watched it... Everyone has their own opinion and have the right to express it. Rather than addressing people to move on, you should try moving on. Logarithmano said: you can't expect Dragon Ball to have a mind blowing plot, that is not the purpose of the show, so it is pointless to hate it for that. Also, giving low scores to anime doesn't make you special, through my eyes you are just wasting your time watching things you dislike. Your example of Dragon Ball is terrible since its Akira Toriyama's fault to hype the fans through each "preview". And about expectations, an anime having a high score is sure to increase your expectations or why would it even have "that" score. Giving high scores doesn't make you special either, it's just the way to express one's entertainment so grow up... You have no right to criticize people on how they spend their time. It would be better if you don't give a crap about others.... and just enjoy watching what you like. |
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Logarithmano said: actually I agree OP, those you mentioned are #FACTS, I'd also like to add that complaining about people complaining about anime is a waste of time as well. I am just tired of seeing people complaining everyday about any anime for every possible reason, I mean, if you don't like it, why are you even watching or talking about it? just move on and find something you can enjoy. One problem I see, are complains about expectations, for example, you can't expect good comedy on Death Note, the same way you can't expect Dragon Ball to have a mind blowing plot, that is not the purpose of the show, so it is pointless to hate it for that. Also, giving low scores to anime doesn't make you special, through my eyes you are just wasting your time watching things you dislike. Tell me your thoughts about this, do you agree? disagree? |
| @EcchiGodMamsterP Twist it however you like, but some anime fans are thin-skinned to the slightest criticism towards anime. Its almost pathetic because its beyond obvious how deeply it bothers people. You can be critical of critics, sure. Though, you yourself have lost any chance of seeming anything but thin-skinned due to the day you blew up on me in this forum and my discord due to my comments on ecchi and then cut me off because you just couldn't take it. Not worth it though because you will also deny and/or twist that. |
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| I enjoy everything. I'm simple to please. |
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| I somewhat agree with OP myself. I'm not picky in what i watch, but i have yet to come across a show i voluntarily picked, and finished it even though i hated it. To each their own though. Watching an anime and not liking it is not the same as watching an anime you know you won't like with the mindset that you're going to blast it afterwards. Stop trying to justify it with your "right to criticize", and just say what you're really doing. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone. |
| What's your rush now? Everyone will have his day to die. |
| why would I try to enjoy something that I already enjoy ? Don't assume that people don't enjoy anime just because they give anime they watched a said low score. Some people use a relative scoring system. |
"People who don't see that anime has changed are either wearing "glasses" or watching only a certain type (and or era) of anime" "Having a low mean score doesn't necessarily mean one doesn't enjoy anime. Rating system is not a school grading system." "Elitist is people who think he is superior than others. Not necessarily ones who insulting/critisizing your favorite anime or people who enjoy a certain type of anime" "Fanboy is people who translating "your favorite anime is shit" into "you are shit". "Being a fanboy is an indication of elitism" |
| Yes, i agree with you , i don't like wasting my time so i need to drop anime more often. But giving high scores doesn't make you special either, pleb. |
| No, I don't try to enjoy it. I just do. Now, if something happens that I don't like, then I might find myself disapointed, but that actually adds to the enjoyment. I do get tired sometimes of a show just being predictable. |
| Criticism itself is fine. The only problem with that is, that some repeat themselves over and over again instead of actually using criticism. |
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| And what if I like to finish everything even though I hate it? I hated Highschool of the Dead at the star, for example, but I ended enjoying it (though disliking it a bit). The same can happen but reversely... I started enjoying a lot Death Note but hated it at the end (of the first part). Also... Logarithmano said: you can't expect Dragon Ball to have a mind blowing plot, that is not the purpose of the show, so it is pointless to hate it for that Yeah, because that totally excuses its bad writing... Gurren Lagann's purpose isn't also to tell a mind blowing plot (in fact, is very similar to DB) but at the end it does, so why Dragon Ball can't have it? The bad narrative in Dragon Ball is just bad narrative, don't excuse it. Also, why are you saying that people shouldn't hate it because of it? If a person hates a show for whatever reason, let this person hate it. Don't be such close minded. |
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| I don't judge people for what they enjoy doing. If someone finds more entertainment in watching shitty shows and then ranting about how awful they are than they do in just watching things that appeal to their taste more I won't try to stop them. |
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Kagami said: No, it's because the Anime Discussion forum can get boring when it's thread after thread of people complaining left and right.EcchiGodMamsterP said: no contest lol @MechaKnightDarek is it really more appealing to people to watch something they think sucks and bitch about how much they think it sucks than to actually find an anime they like? Lets wrap all anime fans in plastic wrap to protect their feelings because they cannot stand people voicing a negative opinion on anime shows. Its almost like anime fans are becoming sport homers and are fragile to the slightest negativity. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| We love it. But as Nietzsche once said, people who love something do it the most harm, because they expect from the loved one, the impossible. |
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| I try to pick anime based on my tastes and narrow it down to shows that I think I would enjoy but it doesn't always work out, hence the low scores. Some people watch any anime just to analyse it and they find enjoyment in doing just that, regardless of the scores that they give. When it comes to watching anime, everyone has their own personal preferences. Everyone's viewing experience is unique. |
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| Here's the thing, I still enjoy the shows I gave 1/10 more than the ones I dropped, and it's not like I don't have any complain on the shows I gave 10/10. There's no perfection in this world. When you're going through anime forum, you're reading comments from multiple persons. One single person is NOT responsible for every "complain" that you see. One person complains about one thing, pile them up and obviously you will see the "people complaining everyday about any anime for every possible reason" |
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| You either enjoy something or you don't, there's no "trying" to do so. |
| Yes. Thats why after complaining about the "technical quality" i normally give why the reason i enjoyed and select out to people who enjoy the specific genre. For example ; Fate apocryha, it has bland main character, theres too much character, overall compared other Fate franchise its a trainwreck. but Enjoyment wise? ofc i gave 10/10 for it because fighting! some characters and the memes! or something recent like Owari no seraph, generic shounen trash and dumbed down characters where they seems somehow overpowered with all the BS talk but still do nothing but crying his ass off for more power. Enjoyment? not much compared Shounen like Gintama/BnHA its alright due it actually has good theme and some good characters other than fucking retarded Yu. tl;dr if i didnt even try to enjoy it i dont even bother to watch/drop or rarely on hold. |
| I watch shows per my preferences and which I know I will enjoy I don't watch shows to analyze them I watch for my own enjoyment But many people watch them as a critique despite it not being enjoyable to them and that's something they enjoy doing so let them I got no reason to complain about anyone else as long as I enjoy doing what I do. |
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| When a series is very popular and has genres that I like, I try to watch it. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't, but I finish it anyway, so I can have a honest opinion about it. |
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