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Sep 6, 2009 9:24 PM

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Holy shit, Sanae and Akio's speeches were superb. I was actually touched by those speeches. It was like a moral lesson for me. Lol!

Anyways, I felt it was a bit rushed. Now, I'm off to watch the second season to see what will happen. XD
 
Sep 18, 2009 2:32 PM

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Aww man, Sanae and Akio's speeches really had me in tears

D:

I'm a bandwagon whore

Ow. My Heart. <3
 
Sep 26, 2009 4:38 PM
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Ah! What a beautiful ending =)

I really liked the way Akio cheeed Nagisa up, it was simple, but good.

Also, Tomoya's confession was also enjoyable ;)


10/10 ^-^
 
Oct 4, 2009 2:46 AM

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godlike episode

I was like "Nagisa get your act together"

Akio's appearance was so cool, his speech touched my heart.

I liked the story of the theater play, maybe they had used one actor mor for the puppet
too bad we couldn't see her singing the danko song.
 
Dec 21, 2009 12:53 AM

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!

GO TOMOYA!!!!!!!

Also Akio was made of gar.
 
Jan 3, 2010 8:19 PM

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Metroid_Ex said:
LolitaDecay said:
I burst into tears at Akio's speech and pretty much didn't stop till the end xD
In my opinion, I loved it.

T_T *sniff* *sniff*
 
Feb 3, 2010 8:23 PM
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Nice ending. I was expecting Fuko to show up at the party. :|

Oh well. Off to see episode 23 and After Story. ^_^
 
Feb 26, 2010 4:08 PM

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Tomoya finally asked her >_>
 
Feb 28, 2010 10:55 AM

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The speeches are what made me cry the most. That and the end!
Before Tomoya ran down I was like "He better run down there!!" LOL
I was expecting a kiss somewhere. It would have been awesome if it was on stage. *o*
When Tomoya said he had to ask her something I thought he was going to ask her to marry him! I was like…wait they aren't even going out yet?!
Overall it was a good anime. Although I didn't cry as much as I did with Air and Kanon 2006…It's still a 10/10

Now I have to watch the Extra Episode and ~After Story~
I'm expecting the cry a lot watching ~After Story~ ^_^
 
Mar 10, 2010 11:11 AM

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Predictible, but sweet though! Loved the play!
I do agree that it was kinda rushed, I mean really the whole show was about them getting together and then they just put it in the last second... (okay it wasn't really about them getting together, but well that feeling was in the air since ep 1)
Sweet nevertheless..! 0:)

Haha Aiko in the school Theatre, on the video he was playing Oedipus by Sophocles, it's a greek tragedy, about that guy who kills his father and marries his mother! (Have to translate it at school for my examens, what a coincedence!)
 
Apr 2, 2010 3:29 AM

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this episode is seriously the 2nd best in all clannad/AS xD

everything was just,too great :-)

well,it started on a sad note,but that's to be expected from a clannad episode wich:either starts happy and end sad,either starts sad end ends happy...

the scene with the play was awesome,Akio's speech was awesome,Tomoya's speech was awesome,everything was AWESUM :D

Tomoya finally confessed in the cutest scene in all clannad ^^
yeah they didn't kiss but who cares?i don't..

999999999999/5 :D
Sayonara,papa!


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Apr 9, 2010 7:57 PM

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Finally. I CRIED! Best episode in all Clannad up till now. I loved it ever since Akio made his speech. Very touching. <3333
 
Apr 18, 2010 12:11 PM

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Everything in this Episode was predictable. But that does not make it a bad one. Lets see if it can stand its 10 or if it gets a 9 in the extra episode.
 
Jul 10, 2010 6:22 AM

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Thank goodness Nagisa's emo-ness didn't last long. Nice last few mins.
 
Jul 26, 2010 9:01 PM

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Pretty good ending. We'll see what I think about the next episode..

9/10 or 8/10??? hmmmm.
 
Jul 27, 2010 2:31 PM

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Nagisa being all emo was just weird.

I almost cried when Akio burst into the auditorium.

Tomoya's confession did seem like it was just thrown in at the end.
 
Jul 28, 2010 12:27 AM

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WHAT....A...ENDING...!

Awesome
 
Aug 13, 2010 8:51 AM

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He finally confessed, yayh!!!
 
Aug 20, 2010 12:59 PM
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Fuck yeah akio's phoenix wright impression
 
Sep 3, 2010 8:01 AM

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felt soo bad for nagisa when she was first on stage :(.

lovely ending :D
"Fun things...Happy things...They'll all...They'll all eventually change some day, you know? But can you still love this place?" - Nagisa
 
Sep 4, 2010 1:57 PM
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I retract my previous statement: I no longer hate Key/KyoAni.

(Although I will never forgive them for their most atrocious and treacherous fandisservice they committed by giving my precious, darling Tomoyo bad eye-sight and forcing her to wear glasses - this cannot be emphasized enough!)

This episode was a real tear-jerker, and a beautiful one at that. Nagisa wasn't my favorite choice of the girls, but it was a very touching ending to Clannad just the same. Simply beautiful!

(I will still be looking forward to the OVAs, especially Tomoyo's. Hopefully without any glasses, as it's an alternate universe anything's possible, right?)

Btw, why did it say "FINAL EPISODE" in the beginning of this episode (#22)? The torrent I downloaded contains 24 episodes and in the description here on MAL it states that there are are 23 episodes, while AniDB.net on the other hand claims there are indeed only 22 episodes. I suppose #23 could be a recap or something (just like episode 13 of AIR was). Either that or episodes 23 and 24 are mislabeled OVAs in the release I've downloaded ("[MII][SS-Eclipse][THORA]_Clannad_(1920x1080)"). Well, I guess I'm about to find out.

Oh, and too bad we never actually got to hear Nasagi sing. Would've sort of ruined the mood (as was alluded), but it was probably very cute.
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Sep 8, 2010 3:40 AM

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Holy... I burst into tears when Nagisa's father appeared... his speech was the most emotional thing that happened in this series.
 
Sep 10, 2010 7:15 AM

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I almost cried when Akio burst into the auditorium.


I actually cried, and it wasn't the first time while watching this anime...
I think Clannad's become one of my fav anime
 
Oct 7, 2010 4:24 PM
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this is real final ep........ I comment like extra ep is separating to clannad first series.
very good end, Nagisa yandere's eyes and Akio entrance in theater room........
there is no lightning I want but final is not bad, it's pretty!!!! Final scene with tomoya confession is very good, but it would be a kiss, imho the only kiss in this series, I don't love too kiss, but here there must be a kiss!!!!!! however there isn't best ep, but 18th episode is completely with final confession of this episode, 18+22' final scene is best ep.
Sunohara is my favorite chara, Tomoya and Akio are in second position with same position. Girls: Kyou, Nagisa, Fuko, Kotomi, Tomoyo....... aaaaarghhh Tomoyo is failure...... her introduction was great!! I supposed a story with sunohara and greatly story ahed, but she dislike me...... Kotomi is cute but too boring sometime.
Fuko is very cute and I reassessed her arc. Kyou is amazing, I expect more to her, but she like me, she is enjoy. Nagisa of firsts and finals eps is awesome.........
I give to Clannad 9+/10........
 
Oct 8, 2010 6:18 PM

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what I nice final ep to end off the season :,[


 
Dec 19, 2010 10:05 AM

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I was really worried about Nagisa being emotional about her parents' dreams.

But when Akio rushed in the auditorium and exploded his emotional speech, I felt like I'm going to cry. His words really hit me deep.

And the word that I can describe about the confession was "HAPPINESS".

Overall, a great ep..
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Jan 9, 2011 7:19 PM

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Akio is just straight up GAR!!!
 
Jan 12, 2011 11:31 PM

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I hate seeing Nagisa all depressed. Makes me cry as well.
But this ending was perfect, a great way to end an awesome anime series!!!



 
Feb 15, 2011 3:19 AM

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I'm glad Tomoya ended up with Nagisa. <3
Tomoyo After was terrible and Kyou's route just plain sucked. (=
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Feb 16, 2011 10:35 PM

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Awwww what a great episode!!!!!
and what an adorable ending!!
<3
 
Mar 2, 2011 2:00 AM

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this ep made me cry hehe.
its been so long since ive cried while i was watching an anime
 
Mar 30, 2011 12:39 PM

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Hmmm I am real crybaby at such times, I cried durring happier and funnier animes than Clannad, but I did not feel like crying or even being sad while watching Clannad... so many sad stories and arcs but somehow I did not feel them. Anyho I pretty loved this ep. However Nagisa annoys me all the time and I was quite pissed off when whole show she was like crying all the time... Anyway will finish watching two eps and will go to after story. I am sxpecting something better there as I already saw some spoilers from that season..

3/5 from me for this ep.





Gyabo!~
 
Apr 12, 2011 1:48 AM
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I should not eat while watching Clannad. It's not funny to end up with tears all over your bread...
 
Apr 22, 2011 10:11 PM

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Awww! Fantastic! She managed to perform the play in the end, I was a bit worried, but Akio's rousing speach was awesome!

Go super-dad!

And a nice touch from Tomoya telling his dad not to drink too much!

Marvelous series!
 
May 2, 2011 9:35 AM

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Wonderful last episode, even if it was a little cliche. I loved the way this show grew with such innocent romance but without fanservice. So it was appropriate to end with a quick confession but with no kiss
 
Jul 5, 2011 2:51 AM
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A tad predictable but hey, at least there was an unambiguous declaration of love from Tomoya (which is something so many anime lack). I do feel that the rest of the characters lacked some more screen time but I suppose this was all about Nagisa.
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Aug 13, 2011 12:19 AM

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For some reason, I don't like Nagisa as the lead heroine. Feels somewhat misplaced.
 
Aug 13, 2011 12:29 AM

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Dissent said:
For some reason, I don't like Nagisa as the lead heroine. Feels somewhat misplaced.
trust me once you watch after story that thought will NEVER cross your mind ever again, to say their the only ones for eachother is a understatement, youl see when you watch it.....oh and stock up on tissues for the seocnd seasons final episodes......im not kidding it makes borderline everyone sob like crazy.....no im being dead serious, if you dont cry your most likley heartless, i know that seems rude right now but trust me once you see it......just god damn
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Sep 13, 2011 3:51 PM

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predictable but still beautiful story. Though, I must admit that I don`t like Nagisa too... When I played the game I even didn`t speak to her... May be watching the second season will change my mind...
 
Nov 26, 2011 7:36 PM

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Oh man, I seriously thought this was the ending. There is one more? ^^

Akio is a man among men. I will strive to be a manly father like him some day.

Nagisa-chan was giving yandere vibes in the beginning LoL. I'm glad she's back to her usual self now.

Ending was very predictable, yet necessary. Thumbs up.
 
Dec 17, 2011 9:51 AM

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Teared a lil at the part when Nagisa's dad came in the theatre hall.

Tomoya finally confessed :D
 
Dec 19, 2011 4:58 AM

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Wow, this is the best ending i've ever seen. It's a pretty obvious ending, but still - those emotions that come along with it, and the soundtrack... goosebumps. Every. Time.
 
Jan 8, 2012 9:41 AM

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I cried a lot in my rewatch of this episode today. When Akio enters, when Nagisa is standing silent on the stage. Man so much emotion.

One thing I didn't notice before though, was Tomoyo coming in during prep before I think it was (or maybe its the previous episode) and talks to Nagisa, and then suddenly realizes how nice a girl Nagisa is for Tomoya, and basically says I'm glad its you, although i don't think I caught that the first time I watched this, nor do the other characters.

One thing I want to know. What did Nagisa right on the Chalk board next to Her name? I know supposedly it was Okisaki's name, but was it his surname or personal name? This is case where knowing how to write their names might have added to my understanding of what was going on in that last scene I think.
 
Feb 14, 2012 7:15 AM

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What a melodrama.



Didn't cry at all.




Phew.
 
Feb 14, 2012 7:21 AM

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What a melodrama.



Didn't cry at all.




Phew.


You either really don't like this show or you are just trying to piss of fans or you are just trolling :D
 
Feb 14, 2012 7:50 AM

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Lawl I was like DON'T GET EMOTIONAL! Idk how you couldn't have gotten sensitive???
 
Feb 14, 2012 7:58 AM

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akutasame94 said:
orzel286 said:
What a melodrama.



Didn't cry at all.




Phew.


You either really don't like this show or you are just trying to piss of fans or you are just trolling :D

Hmm. Maeda is talentless story writer, I don't think them stories even try to be good nor smart. The shows are for people who are easily played with them emotions, not for those who like to think. Most of the stories are over-dramatic and lolworthy. It's really hard to take those seriously you know. People have every reason to hate those shows since those are not objectively good. If you think that's trolling then you lack the capability to think and see things from different point of views.

Angel Beats!
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=30579

Maeda's writing skills.


Clannad.
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=27169

Clannad After Story.
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=36575

Air.
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=50547

Kanon '06
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=12092

I dislike KEY if you were wondering. Mainly because of (this is really a spoiler so don't open if you haven't seen Clannad After Story)


I end my reasoning here.
weh
 
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Karhu said:
akutasame94 said:
orzel286 said:
What a melodrama.



Didn't cry at all.




Phew.


You either really don't like this show or you are just trying to piss of fans or you are just trolling :D

Hmm. Maeda is talentless story writer, I don't think them stories even try to be good nor smart. The shows are for people who are easily played with them emotions, not for those who like to think. Most of the stories are over-dramatic and lolworthy. It's really hard to take those seriously you know. People have every reason to hate those shows since those are not objectively good. If you think that's trolling then you lack the capability to think and see things from different point of views.

Angel Beats!
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=30579

Maeda's writing skills.


Clannad.
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=27169

Clannad After Story.
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=36575

Air.
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=50547

Kanon '06
http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=12092

I dislike KEY if you were wondering. Mainly because of (this is really a spoiler so don't open if you haven't seen Clannad After Story)


I end my reasoning here.



I hate getting involved into this.

I completely agree with some thins, but telling that Maeda is talentless is just stupid. Just because he has some kind of formula doesn't mean he is bad writer. And if he is so bad why does this show have so many good ratings, so many fans...

Not every fan is emo kid or overly emotional. Anyway I like to believe that everybody is entitled to its own opinion so I won't discuss it further...

What I wanted to say with my previous post was "We already know what you think of this show, why come on every episode topic and say "rubbish" "

That's all....

And there is a message in this show, you just have to recognize it..
 
Feb 14, 2012 11:59 AM

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Karhu said:
The shows are for people who are easily played with them emotions, not for those who like to think. Most of the stories are over-dramatic and lolworthy.

This.




And this

Karhu said:
The shows are for people who are easily played with them emotions, not for those who like to think. Most of the stories are over-dramatic and lolworthy.









Aaaand this

Karhu said:
The shows are for people who are easily played with them emotions, not for those who like to think. Most of the stories are over-dramatic and lolworthy.






+you can see all those "dramatic" moments from miles away. Anyway - characters crying on screen + sad music got really old. It's like beating a dead horse even though there are only bones left.
 
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Karhu said:
akutasame94 said:
orzel286 said:
What a melodrama.



Didn't cry at all.




Phew.


You either really don't like this show or you are just trying to piss of fans or you are just trolling :D

Hmm. Maeda is talentless story writer, I don't think them stories even try to be good nor smart. The shows are for people who are easily played with them emotions, not for those who like to think. Most of the stories are over-dramatic and lolworthy. It's really hard to take those seriously you know. People have every reason to hate those shows since those are not objectively good. If you think that's trolling then you lack the capability to think and see things from different point of views.


This is an invalid argument because "good" is subjective. You are claiming that he lacks the capability to think? That is incredibly hypocritical since you are doing the same thing. You just labeled off all of Maeda's works as having poor stories without even seeing it from another point of view.

You are quite limited in scope if you think there is only one way of portraying a story. There are various kinds of stories that can exist and be good. Maeda's works focus on emotional elements and this in itself is the story. The very story of a work of fiction could be run entirely by emotions and still be a "good" story.

Also, your claim that it is not for people who like to think is entirely wrong. Even if you pull out some well thought out story that is incredibly deep and complex, does that make it good? No, even if something is simple, you can still "think" about it. Someone with the capability to do so can go in-depth and explore even the simplest of stories and create meaning out of it. If you are unable to do so and just label off something as simple, it means you didn't think it out and just passed it off.

For some people, drama is the core of story. Look at Shakespeare for example, are those "good stories"? Honestly, no...Shakespeare plays lack any form of "deep" story if we go by how you judge them. Shakespeare is famous for the story that arises from emotions. It is the over-dramatic moments in Hamlet and Romeo & Juliet that give rise to the story. Story and emotion/drama is one and the same. That's also the origins of drama theater itself.

You and that reviewer, kajia, both claim that people are being suckered in. You could say the very same for anything emotional then. For example, I noticed you both gave the movie, Grave of the Fireflies a fairly high score. This movie is doing basically the same thing. The only difference is it is fooling people using a controversial theme. You just pull out some sappy sad story about some orphans in WWII and wow, apparently you have a masterpiece. That is BS at it's finest.

Stop acting like an elitist claiming people are being suckered in. People watch and enjoy this stuff and you have no right to imply they are mindless sheep. So since you are not falling for it, you are superior then? You are better than them? Something is extremely popular and so those that like it are just being manipulated? BS, you're just like these snobby university students I encounter everyday acting like they are above the masses with their elitist attitudes. You guys think you're different and that because you are the minority that disagrees with the majority, you are special and above them. Face it, you're an elitist grabbing for attention by being different.
 
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