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Mar 10, 2018 7:56 AM
#1
The niqab is a garment of clothing that conceals a muslim woman's face, as a means of practicing 'modesty', but I've also heard that it's supposed to stop men from being attracted to their physical features; however, a lot of controversy has arisen in western countries about the use of this piece of clothing, ranging from casual discrimination to fearing that they are potential terrorists. Discuss. Btw what do you think of turbans? Mod edit: removed bait |
BrandonMar 13, 2018 11:45 PM
Mar 10, 2018 8:23 AM
#2
I misread that word as niggas at first. And no I don't think niqabs is a good idea, for security reasons. Idgaf about Turbans |
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Mar 10, 2018 8:39 AM
#3
who gives a shit what people wear you dont need to conceal your guns in your clothes to shoot up a school |
Mar 10, 2018 8:48 AM
#4
No, it's too much and full face coverings can lead to security concerns especially in the United States. |
Mar 10, 2018 8:57 AM
#5
I would say no if the country already has a law against such clothing. I don't mind turbans though as they don't cover the face, same goes for hijabs. Bambi said: I've also heard that it's supposed to stop men from being attracted to their physical features Total bullshit, it doesn't stop anything, if one of the girls that I like puts such clothing I'll most likely get even more turned on and impatient to see what's under it. |
Mar 10, 2018 9:05 AM
#6
Nope, of course not, what's with the question OP ? But turbans are cool. |
Mar 10, 2018 9:07 AM
#7
Depends on the countries law, if a country claims to have freedoms and allows for religious expression then sure. If a country isn't pretending to be for multiculturalism then muslims should find somewhere else to live. |
Mar 10, 2018 9:15 AM
#8
Bambi said: The niqab is a garment of clothing that conceals a muslim woman's face, as a means of practicing 'modesty'. OP, where did you get this idea from? |
Mar 10, 2018 9:22 AM
#9
If you want the freedom to walk down town with a clown mask on then niqabs should be allowed to. |
Mar 10, 2018 9:35 AM
#10
In Islam, females are required to conceal their whole body, leaving only face, hands and feet (below ankle) as stated in Quran. They can wear anything as a way to cover it. As for niqab, the face conceal means nothing more than as you said, to practice modesty and keeping a jealous husband happy. Black color would reduce the urge to think of them in a perverted way and in Arabian country like the desert area, black color helps to wear off the heat. According to Islam, female or male should also avoid eye contact for a prolonged time because it would invoke sexual desire and be considered as a sin. Nothing harmless about turbans unless you hate Muslims of course. |
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Mar 10, 2018 9:35 AM
#11
Cbr_Star said: cuz they ar ethe same thing, right.If you want the freedom to walk down town with a clown mask on then niqabs should be allowed to. the clown religion is just as oppressive and invasive. |
Mar 10, 2018 9:44 AM
#12
Allowed in general? Uh... sure. If I can wear my face-concealing Boba Fett hoodie or my Tokyo Ghoul mask in public, I don't see why they can't wear their face fabric. However, I'd advise exercising careful judgement in where they're worn. I quickly discovered wearing my face-concealing Boba Fett hoodie into a Subway was a bad idea. (The lady behind the counter nearly had a heart attack.) Also, institutions shouldn't be forced to allow masked people into their premises. If the movie theater won't let me wear my Tokyo Ghoul mask to a flippin' Halloween party that's being hosted inside (which, admittedly, isn't completely unreasonable,) it makes perfect sense for them to be free to tell someone to take off their niqab. And in answer to the final bit: Yes, turbans are awesome. Ol' bin Laden can't change that. |
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Mar 10, 2018 9:54 AM
#13
Sure, they should be allowed to wear whatever they want as long as they are not harming others. |
Mar 10, 2018 10:37 AM
#14
Maybe for ugly people, of both genders. Not the hotties. Or maybe not at all. The cultural identity of the hosting country should be preserved, so it doesn't turn into a new version of the countries/culture from where those folks are fleeing. If they want safety and good economics, they should be willing to act accordingly. Also, it's not about fashion. Allow this shit to some women, and soon every woman not willing to wear will be at a higher risk of rape. |
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Mar 10, 2018 12:40 PM
#15
No. I think a full face viel is unnecessary and stupid, and moreover the woman is usually forced into wearing it. It doesn’t look comfortable and serves little purpose. Hell, I’d ban full face veils being forced upon women in middle eastern countries as well, if I could. Most female Muslims in the US I’ve known, met and seen wear a hijab. I don’t have a problem with hijabs. The hijab is usually something that the woman often chooses to wear, the niqab usually isn’t. Turbans are also fine. |
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Mar 10, 2018 2:52 PM
#16
Bambi said: The niqab is a garment of clothing that conceals a muslim woman's face, as a means of practicing 'modesty', but I've also heard that it's supposed to stop men from being attracted to their physical features; however, a lot of controversy has arisen in western countries about the use of this piece of clothing, ranging from casual discrimination to fearing that they are potential terrorists. Discuss. Btw what do you think of turbans? As long as they are not driving with it on, take it off for ID,passport or driver's license photos and take it off while testifying in court or take it off in security sensitive areas I don't care if they wear it. Mod edit: removed bait from original post |
BrandonMar 13, 2018 11:44 PM
Mar 10, 2018 3:33 PM
#17
It depends on if the women wearing it is butt ugly or a ravishing beauty. |
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Mar 10, 2018 3:39 PM
#18
Hmmmmmm Do I support wahhabism and people wearing balaclavas in public? No So they shouldn’t be allowed |
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Mar 10, 2018 4:13 PM
#19
Niqabs make me think of ninjas and assassins so I think it's on the same level as wearing a SWAT gear; if you're gonna go out wearing one, you're obligated to jump on roofs only. And turbans make me think of genies so if I start caressing you, you can only blame yourself. All I want is my 3 wishes. |
yomachiMar 10, 2018 5:02 PM
Mar 10, 2018 4:23 PM
#20
Why do people make such a whopping great big deal about cloth? |
Mar 10, 2018 6:03 PM
#21
Of course they should be allowed in the sense of not outlawing it. It's just clothes. That would be stupid to ban. Some limitation for certain situations is understandable though but same rules should apply to all similar things like ski masks. What should be banned is forcing people to wear certain clothes. It should be discouraged though since it has negative health consequences from vitamin D deficiency and it promotes Wahabism. Turbans aren't a Muslim head-dress. That's a common misunderstanding. It's a cultural thing in some mid east countries. It's the Sikhs that wear turbons for religious reasons. I always liked turbans though. They look pretty cool. |
Mar 11, 2018 8:49 AM
#22
bitchassdarius said: But it would sure help!who gives a shit what people wear you dont need to conceal your guns in your clothes to shoot up a school This is a serious issue; think of the children. hazecloud said: Very enlightening! However, I thought that wearing black in the sun makes you feel hotter... In Islam, females are required to conceal their whole body, leaving only face, hands and feet (below ankle) as stated in Quran. They can wear anything as a way to cover it. As for niqab, the face conceal means nothing more than as you said, to practice modesty and keeping a jealous husband happy. Black color would reduce the urge to think of them in a perverted way and in Arabian country like the desert area, black color helps to wear off the heat. According to Islam, female or male should also avoid eye contact for a prolonged time because it would invoke sexual desire and be considered as a sin. Nothing harmless about turbans unless you hate Muslims of course. Viltas said: I feel the same way. I feel like because they are extreme in covering themselves up that they'll also be extreme in other areas, like bombing or shooting non-MuslimsAs a german dude who practically sees this at least 5 times a day nowadays I really don't approve of this, for obvious reasons listed above. It gives you a certain uncertainty as well, I just don't feel safe around fully covered people. I don't mind turbans. . Scud said: Cloth can be a tool used for concealing weapons or even strangling people with. Don't play dumb.Why do people make such a whopping great big deal about cloth? traed said: I never said that turbans were a muslim head-dress >:C Of course they should be allowed in the sense of not outlawing it. It's just clothes. That would be stupid to ban. Some limitation for certain situations is understandable though but same rules should apply to all similar things like ski masks. What should be banned is forcing people to wear certain clothes. It should be discouraged though since it has negative health consequences from vitamin D deficiency and it promotes Wahabism. Turbans aren't a Muslim head-dress. That's a common misunderstanding. It's a cultural thing in some mid east countries. It's the Sikhs that wear turbons for religious reasons. I always liked turbans though. They look pretty cool. |
Mar 11, 2018 8:55 AM
#23
Yeah man you gotta let niggas chill yo. Oh that says Niqabs. Don't mind those either, they look pretty cool. Saw a lady with one on the highway the other afternoon shit looks awesome lol. |
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Mar 11, 2018 8:57 AM
#24
Nope, when you move to another country you have to follow the rules of that country, you cannot force other to do what you did in your country. |
Mar 11, 2018 9:06 AM
#25
I'm not sure... They might just want to cover up everything, but it is not completely safe to allow them either. Turbans are ok though |
Mar 11, 2018 9:07 AM
#26
Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: But it would sure help!who gives a shit what people wear you dont need to conceal your guns in your clothes to shoot up a school no it wouldn't, if anything, it would make you look more conspicuous do you know what the florida school shooter did after finishing shooting? he fled the scene by blending in with the rest of the students |
Mar 11, 2018 9:08 AM
#27
Gan_water said: I bet you secretly think they look like shit. Yeah man you gotta let niggas chill yo. Oh that says Niqabs. Don't mind those either, they look pretty cool. Saw a lady with one on the highway the other afternoon shit looks awesome lol. Purezensu said: I think countries go too far with multiculturalism at the expense of neglecting their people. For example, here in Australia some shops don't play Christmas carols in shopping centres because they're afraid of offending muslims. I also remember an instance at a public pool, where workers closed the female dressing room because a muslim family wanted to be alone in there, so other ppl couldn't use it... Nope, when you move to another country you have to follow the rules of that country, you cannot force other to do what you did in your country. |
Mar 11, 2018 9:11 AM
#28
Bambi said: Yeah? So can your hands. So can an umbrella. So can a piano. So can cars. Just about everything can be used in one way or another to kill somebody. Hardly matters what you're wearing when you can just pull a few guns out of your car and start spraying bullets everywhere.Scud said: Cloth can be a tool used for concealing weapons or even strangling people with. Don't play dumb.Why do people make such a whopping great big deal about cloth? |
Mar 11, 2018 9:11 AM
#29
Bambi said: Gan_water said: I bet you secretly think they look like shit. Yeah man you gotta let niggas chill yo. Oh that says Niqabs. Don't mind those either, they look pretty cool. Saw a lady with one on the highway the other afternoon shit looks awesome lol. I think they look p lit yo. Really adds some color to the scene ;_; |
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Mar 11, 2018 9:22 AM
#30
bitchassdarius said: But because people are afraid of offending muslims (at the chance they will do something crazy) they are afraid to go up to them. Niqabs sure make them stand out, but in a different way; they're also intimidating and give off unapproachable vibes.Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: who gives a shit what people wear you dont need to conceal your guns in your clothes to shoot up a school no it wouldn't, if anything, it would make you look more conspicuous do you know what the florida school shooter did after finishing shooting? he fled the scene by blending in with the rest of the students Scud said: In that case you can argue, 'why make a big deal about guns? Just cause you own one doesn't mean you're gonna use it to kill' Bambi said: Yeah? So can your hands. So can an umbrella. So can a piano. So can cars. Just about everything can be used in one way or another to kill somebody. Hardly matters what you're wearing when you can just pull a few guns out of your car and start spraying bullets everywhere.Scud said: Why do people make such a whopping great big deal about cloth? Gan_water said: It's nice to see the truth coming out C:Bambi said: Gan_water said: Yeah man you gotta let niggas chill yo. Oh that says Niqabs. Don't mind those either, they look pretty cool. Saw a lady with one on the highway the other afternoon shit looks awesome lol. I think they look p lit yo. Really adds some color to the scene ;_; |
BambiMar 11, 2018 9:25 AM
Mar 11, 2018 9:27 AM
#31
It should be illegal there could be a bomb in there. |
Mar 11, 2018 9:27 AM
#32
Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: But because people are afraid of offending muslims (at the chance they will do something crazy) they are afraid to go up to them. Niqabs sure make them stand out, but they're also intimidating and give off unapproachable vibes.Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: But it would sure help!who gives a shit what people wear you dont need to conceal your guns in your clothes to shoot up a school no it wouldn't, if anything, it would make you look more conspicuous do you know what the florida school shooter did after finishing shooting? he fled the scene by blending in with the rest of the students that irrational fear is all on you. white teen males are more likely to massacre than muslim women in niqabs. |
Mar 11, 2018 9:30 AM
#33
Scud said: Bambi said: Yeah? So can your hands. So can an umbrella. So can a piano. So can cars. Just about everything can be used in one way or another to kill somebody. Hardly matters what you're wearing when you can just pull a few guns out of your car and start spraying bullets everywhere.Scud said: Why do people make such a whopping great big deal about cloth? It's more like hiding your face really. Wearing masks and similar disguise is already banned in many counties. Just imagine entering a bank for example with such clothing, you can't be even sure if the person inside it is a muslim woman, neo-nazi extremist or a potential school shooter. I believe that those things are valuable to muslims but they can be easily abused by criminals. What's worse is that the criminal can easily vanish into a crowd of innocent people who are also wearing them which may lead to other serious complications. Security cameras also wound't help much. I don't know, maybe my posts stopped making sense long ago. |
Mar 11, 2018 9:31 AM
#34
bitchassdarius said: That may be true, but it's natural to fear the unknown. When someone's identity is covered it makes you wonder who the person is, or what 'it' is.Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: But it would sure help!who gives a shit what people wear you dont need to conceal your guns in your clothes to shoot up a school no it wouldn't, if anything, it would make you look more conspicuous do you know what the florida school shooter did after finishing shooting? he fled the scene by blending in with the rest of the students that irrational fear is all on you. white teen males are more likely to massacre than muslim women in niqabs. |
Mar 11, 2018 9:34 AM
#35
Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: That may be true, but it's natural to fear the unknown. When someone's identity is covered it makes you wonder who the person is, or what 'it' is.Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: But because people are afraid of offending muslims (at the chance they will do something crazy) they are afraid to go up to them. Niqabs sure make them stand out, but they're also intimidating and give off unapproachable vibes.Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: But it would sure help!who gives a shit what people wear you dont need to conceal your guns in your clothes to shoot up a school no it wouldn't, if anything, it would make you look more conspicuous do you know what the florida school shooter did after finishing shooting? he fled the scene by blending in with the rest of the students that irrational fear is all on you. white teen males are more likely to massacre than muslim women in niqabs. so? do you sleep with a nightlight because being in the dark is scary? here's the solution: grow up. |
Mar 11, 2018 9:40 AM
#36
149597871 said: I wonder what bank workers would actually do if someone was wearing a niqab in the store.Scud said: Bambi said: Scud said: Cloth can be a tool used for concealing weapons or even strangling people with. Don't play dumb.Why do people make such a whopping great big deal about cloth? It's more like hiding your face really. Wearing masks and similar disguise is already banned in many counties. Just imagine entering a bank for example with such clothing, you can't be even sure if the person inside it is a muslim woman, neo-nazi extremist or a potential school shooter. I believe that those things are valuable to muslims but they can be easily abused by criminals. What's worse is that the criminal can easily vanish into a crowd of innocent people who are also wearing them which may lead to other serious complications. Security cameras also wound't help much. I don't know, maybe my posts stopped making sense long ago. bitchassdarius said: Tbh I actually do have a fear of the dark to a certain extent. xDBambi said: bitchassdarius said: Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: But because people are afraid of offending muslims (at the chance they will do something crazy) they are afraid to go up to them. Niqabs sure make them stand out, but they're also intimidating and give off unapproachable vibes.Bambi said: bitchassdarius said: But it would sure help!who gives a shit what people wear you dont need to conceal your guns in your clothes to shoot up a school no it wouldn't, if anything, it would make you look more conspicuous do you know what the florida school shooter did after finishing shooting? he fled the scene by blending in with the rest of the students that irrational fear is all on you. white teen males are more likely to massacre than muslim women in niqabs. so? do you sleep with a nightlight because being in the dark is scary? here's the solution: grow up. |
Mar 11, 2018 9:44 AM
#37
Coming from someone like me who gets sweaty easily, black color helps to reduce the heat for me. Moisture from sweat helps to neutralize the heat accumulated. You'll be sweating more with a non black color and again, bright colors would attract males attention. I also find my sweat less visible for people to notice. A better explanation ; a black object absorbs all wavelengths of light and reflects none and that's why it appears black. Consequently, black absorbs the most heat. Credits to Ganesh Subramaniam. @Bambi Reference: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-black-objects-absorb-more-heat-energy-than-white-or-colored-objects |
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Mar 11, 2018 2:07 PM
#38
Bambi said: traed said: I never said that turbans were a muslim head-dress >:C Of course they should be allowed in the sense of not outlawing it. It's just clothes. That would be stupid to ban. Some limitation for certain situations is understandable though but same rules should apply to all similar things like ski masks. What should be banned is forcing people to wear certain clothes. It should be discouraged though since it has negative health consequences from vitamin D deficiency and it promotes Wahabism. Turbans aren't a Muslim head-dress. That's a common misunderstanding. It's a cultural thing in some mid east countries. It's the Sikhs that wear turbons for religious reasons. I always liked turbans though. They look pretty cool. Yeah but you used Osama Bin Laden as your example so I was just saying it for anyone who might be thinking that, not necisarily you since I didn't know if you did. I have seen women wearing niqabs where I live. They kind of startle you since it's this big sheet of darkness moving by lol |
Mar 11, 2018 2:23 PM
#39
In Turkey a common slang word secular people use for women who wear niqab is "ninja". I think this ridicule is justified though as they hold extremist values like homosexuals should be killed or women should be treated like second class citizen. |
Mar 11, 2018 5:41 PM
#40
No, and anyone who holds extremist Islamic views (which would apply to almost everyone who thinks wearing the Niqab is a good idea) should be banned from non-Islamic countries to begin with. |
Mar 11, 2018 6:22 PM
#41
Honestly i don't care, its not like it affects me. |
Mar 11, 2018 7:28 PM
#42
Bambi said: The niqab is a garment of clothing that conceals a muslim woman's face, as a means of practicing 'modesty', but I've also heard that it's supposed to stop men from being attracted to their physical features; however, a lot of controversy has arisen in western countries about the use of this piece of clothing, ranging from casual discrimination to fearing that they are potential terrorists. The fact that they're black and menacing doesn't help their case. Discuss. So I'm Muslim and female and the amount of niqabis I know I can count on my hand. It's not that common for it to be an issue. If it's about identification, then it's normal for them to show their face. They would do this in Muslim countries as well. It's not an issue. More people tend to wear it whenever governments try to ban it, so it's just making more niqabis. But I do know of people who stopped wearing it due to fear of people harassing them. The sad fact is that a niqabi will probably be attacked more than them being the attacker. |
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Mar 11, 2018 8:47 PM
#43
There could also be a bomb in your mail. Y'never know. |
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Mar 11, 2018 9:22 PM
#44
Mar 11, 2018 9:29 PM
#45
Bayek said: I actually think that one’s okay. I mean what concealed weapon could you actually hide on your face like that?Meh. I wear a balaclava in the winter because it keeps my entire face warm. I'm sure I come off as far more intimidating for it, but I'm not freezing for your feelings: |
Mar 12, 2018 2:40 AM
#46
it should be banned but im irreligious so im bias on this |
Mar 12, 2018 3:20 AM
#47
The question should be, should Muslims be allowed to be in White Nations, when the host population clearly doesn't want them there. |
Mar 12, 2018 3:23 AM
#48
Mar 12, 2018 3:39 AM
#49
Nyu said: Muslim is not a race or skin color, so your sentence makes no sense. Ever heard of Bosnia and Albania?The question should be, should Muslims be allowed to be in White Nations, when the host population clearly doesn't want them there. |
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Mar 12, 2018 3:46 AM
#50
That kind of full face covering isn't allowed in public places in france (outside of specific situations) for security reasons, no matter if they come from a religion or not. And that's the right decision. As for the turban, there's no problem with that one, so it's fine. |
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