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Mar 7, 2018 7:07 PM

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One of the best episodes in a while! Next episode looks crazy!
Mar 7, 2018 9:29 PM

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agilityredfox said:
Eh, not a lot happened again. Got to see the more sinister side of Elias again, surprised Ruth was on board too.

The last few episodes really need to save this anime for me. I can appreciate why people like it but for me there's just no direction whatsoever.


"not a lot happened" did we watch the same episode?
Mar 8, 2018 2:59 AM
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Botan-Chan45 said:
Actually they explain why she has a dog familiar, why she(specifically ) can't use too much magic, why the dragons stay in a location for the time being, and etc. Either you skimmed through or skipped some parts. Also highly unlikely they will kill Chise.


You obviously understand only what you read, so let me to break it down for you. This was the only anime they made with actual magic and similar air around it. With that meaning that it was a great success. The rest animes we saw with anime tags, don't get even near to actually get the magic tag. All futuristic characters weebo-like, unlike this one which more classic and centered around England.

What I didn't like was the unnecessary depression the input in this anime, the length, the odd-weird interaction between Chise and Elias and the whole focus between the relationship of the 2. Clearly unnecessary, reason is because we had to get to see a anime like that since Ghibli studio stopped.

It's exactly like seeing a movie of their! But they made it series instead. So it should focused more into magic and less into socialism, we are not watching a reality show but a magical anime. This is a site for people to get to know good plots about animes they want to watch and thus the harsh criticism against the animes. You can tell they rush it if you watched hundreds of them like I did. That is what is bothering me, because they idea of making something classic with a simplistic magic like that was not just great.

I would prefer Ariel for her familiar instead of Ruth, because it's obvious his unreliable due to his trauma. Don't see the fact that they explain everything like you reasoned in your previous comment. Look the fact on what is missing from the anime. They didn't have to proceed it like that, they could have given it a different path and let us float in their fantasy world.

We don't watch a anime to generate depression and comment in the end "ooh such an artist twist of emotions". We watch anime to feel good with ourselves, japanese anime creators always tend to lead the viewers with too many damn flashbacks of the traumatic memories of the protagonists.

(See Evangelion,eureka 7 etc.)

A lot people have written how disgusting it is that way of letting a anime unfold, ok we get it, her mother kicked her out bla bla. We get Elias is a creature that doesn't even know what emotion is, so in general his personality is similar to a robot. We're not idiots we can see that just by 1ep, that much info and focus around him was too much.

The curse was another depressive idea as well, why not tho to just show another ordinary adventure with Chise in the fairy world with Elias. Why not show an interaction with the fairies that wanted to draw her into the fairy realm (Ariel and the rest).

In those last 3 episodes we will get to see why Cartaphilus is the Psycho he is and how a cleaner establishment between Elias, Ruth's with Chise be done. Rather than the lift of the curse or her demise and how being satisfied of how some people accepted her and that she gave no regrets.

All and all a very nice anime but just a plain sloppy story without much exploration of the general magic world...in a 24 episode serie. Like the rest "magic" animes with just centered idea.

Don't you see it? It was too fast forward for a anime like that, I could compose it into a movie and you would think, "hey is this Ghibli studio?".

You get it now?

Like this guy said, but with ofc not that many words like me.

agilityredfox said:
Eh, not a lot happened again. Just no direction whatsoever.
Mar 8, 2018 5:58 AM

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awkward_meerkat said:
agilityredfox said:
Eh, not a lot happened again. Got to see the more sinister side of Elias again, surprised Ruth was on board too.

The last few episodes really need to save this anime for me. I can appreciate why people like it but for me there's just no direction whatsoever.


"not a lot happened" did we watch the same episode?


Elias and Chise agree to sort.out her curse. Their first option fails so Elias goes behind her back. They disagree and Chise leaves with Joseph/cartaphilus.

Literally 3 things happened this episode. I can respect that its a brief summary but to me, that's all that's important, everything else feels really unecessary.

I can respect why people like this show for all its teenage angst, attention to detail and meaningful interaction between the characters. In my opinion the show took a massive dip in quality in the second cour. Every problem that arises is solved in the same episode, the main villain only pops up from time to time, no sense of urgency or overall direction of the story. if anything its more a slice of life than anything. It took Chise longer to craft her wand than it did to calm a cursed dragon. The second OP is just a glorified AMV. I'm disappointed by this show as I really enjoyed the OVA. It made a recovery two weeks ago but went back to being bland SoL with a flare for fantasy.

Mar 8, 2018 6:00 PM

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agilityredfox said:
awkward_meerkat said:


"not a lot happened" did we watch the same episode?


Elias and Chise agree to sort.out her curse. Their first option fails so Elias goes behind her back. They disagree and Chise leaves with Joseph/cartaphilus.

Literally 3 things happened this episode. I can respect that its a brief summary but to me, that's all that's important, everything else feels really unecessary.

I can respect why people like this show for all its teenage angst, attention to detail and meaningful interaction between the characters. In my opinion the show took a massive dip in quality in the second cour. Every problem that arises is solved in the same episode, the main villain only pops up from time to time, no sense of urgency or overall direction of the story. if anything its more a slice of life than anything. It took Chise longer to craft her wand than it did to calm a cursed dragon. The second OP is just a glorified AMV. I'm disappointed by this show as I really enjoyed the OVA. It made a recovery two weeks ago but went back to being bland SoL with a flare for fantasy.
If you think like that, then every episode of every anime can be described in the same way. Ep 1 in Hajime no Ippo can be described as a boy gets bullied and learns how to punch from pro boxer and now wants to be one. You see there is more to it than all those three things that happened. (I like the second op too)
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Mar 8, 2018 11:28 PM

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Botan-Chan45 said:
agilityredfox said:


Elias and Chise agree to sort.out her curse. Their first option fails so Elias goes behind her back. They disagree and Chise leaves with Joseph/cartaphilus.

Literally 3 things happened this episode. I can respect that its a brief summary but to me, that's all that's important, everything else feels really unecessary.

I can respect why people like this show for all its teenage angst, attention to detail and meaningful interaction between the characters. In my opinion the show took a massive dip in quality in the second cour. Every problem that arises is solved in the same episode, the main villain only pops up from time to time, no sense of urgency or overall direction of the story. if anything its more a slice of life than anything. It took Chise longer to craft her wand than it did to calm a cursed dragon. The second OP is just a glorified AMV. I'm disappointed by this show as I really enjoyed the OVA. It made a recovery two weeks ago but went back to being bland SoL with a flare for fantasy.
If you think like that, then every episode of every anime can be described in the same way. Ep 1 in Hajime no Ippo can be described as a boy gets bullied and learns how to punch from pro boxer and now wants to be one. You see there is more to it than all those three things that happened. (I like the second op too)


Yes, I appreciate that most episodes can be summed up in one sentence, but at least Hajime no Ippo has a general direction its going in. Ancient magus bride has no direction whatsoever, do most episodes just feel like disjointed short stories. Like I said, I can appreciate why people like this, but in my opinion they've sacrificed plot development for character development. I wanted to think this show was great but personally I'm just underwhlemed. At least the soundtrack is good.

Mar 9, 2018 1:05 AM
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Chise 'joining' with Joesph to save herself and Stella was an expected decision just because in that scenario is she had no other choice but for some reason, it didn't process through my brain and I somehow expected another action to occur.
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Mar 14, 2018 7:55 AM
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Finally, the Witch could not help Chise altought Cartaphilus gave her an opportunity to remove the haunting!!!!
Mar 15, 2018 10:11 PM
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And yeah, Elias really makes Chise angry now. I think it's not the first time he did something that make Chise angry or worry. I think what makes Chise angry are two things, first why you decide thing for me without asking me first and second why you never change after all of this. Yeah, if I become Chise I would be really angry too altough she's not the real Stella but Cartaphilus. Now I'm curious about how Elias will make Chise believe him again...
Mar 17, 2018 7:53 PM

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A lot of Mahoyome's dialogue is extremely sketchy and vague, maybe I would enjoy this more if I concentrate on it.

MCs' voice acting was a tad questionable.

Having said that it was more fun to watch than the average Mahoyome week
Mar 19, 2018 10:38 AM

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Elias... is so abusive... It's scary. Him being child-like doesn't excuse how wrong his thought-process is. He's an interesting character but they do not have a healthy relationship.
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Mar 24, 2018 11:21 PM

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damn jealousy makes you a monster

I'm nervous for chise ahh, I hope she wont be tortured
Mar 26, 2018 5:07 AM

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That punch was well deserved! Jealousy is a very powerful tool and is not good. But why is Joseph possessing Stella's body? Can't wait to find out what this will lead. Hope Chise won't fall for that sorcerer's hands foolishly >_>;
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Mar 26, 2018 11:07 PM

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TheInspiredConj said:

Tell me one thing... what person in his right state ofmind would just sit by and watch their loved ones (even if they are retards) as they wait for their death...????


Would you prefer your loved ones to die in a peaceful manner or have them suffer for the rest of their lives?

If Elias cared about Chise even a bit, he would have considered her feelings. He is only interested in Chise because she's a Sleigh Beggy. He's just using her as an experiment subject.
Mar 29, 2018 4:31 AM

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Good episode. Elias once again acts like a douche so I'm glad Chise reacted that way tbh. Learning more about Cartaphilus' plan shall be interesting.
Mar 29, 2018 12:19 PM

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So Chise finally realizes Elias is a monster after he tried to eat her on multiple occasions and constantly showed a lack of empathy for others.
Apr 2, 2018 3:24 AM

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This anime came from good vibes to bad vibes real quick.
Apr 30, 2018 8:12 PM

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I really dislike how they've been putting music over scenes without dialogue and expect you to read/have read the manga to get all the details. And this is just one of many times, mostly during the 2nd half, that they've skipped explanations that you can find in the manga. I just wished they planned the composition of this adaptation better.

But anyways, Elias sure is dangerous. He was about to sacrifice Stella, and not the dragon, simply because he's jealous. I'm also surprised that Ruth went along with it, but I guess neither of them, not being human themselves, understands that doing something like that is something Chise would consider absolutely unforgivable.
The stare and voice that Chise gave Elias gave me chills. Her tone when she said "...really?" was so perfectly serious. it's a tone that we've never heard from Chise before. Probs to Atsumi Tanezaki for that delivery.

I know Chise is acting on emotions, but damn, you can't trust anything Cartaphilus says, especially after everything that he's done. But at the same time, she didn't have much choice either. Who knows what he'd do to Stella before they could save her. I'm still a bit traumatized when we saw what he was live dissecting the poor kid dragon D:
May 5, 2018 5:23 PM
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Wait.. wasn't she a slave to the skull? now she has guts to punch her master in the face? she needs punishment asap.

In the other hand, that creepy pedo skull totally deserved to be punched.
May 12, 2018 3:42 PM

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So she finally saw his true colors, such thing was long overdue. He would do anything to selfishly keep her near himself. Have to say I like this developement, she finally needs to save the monster inside of him instead of just blindingly depend on him everytime. Kinda wonder where this goes, although this is probably my false hope as he would most likely save her again, return her normal hand. and they would reconcile with each other.

Also, nice dilemmas this episode. Still, for her to turn away from one who betrayed her only to believe Cartaphillus instead, that was immensely stupid decision, even if she wanted to save her friend.

I sense some deus ex machina coming... or Lindel magic to solve everything.
Aug 9, 2018 9:31 PM

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That's quite the episode, especially that ending was interesting. That Stella certainly is not the right Stella, or was she faking it from the beginning? Really interesting and I do wonder what happens next.
Oct 19, 2018 10:35 AM

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Aw. Elias and Ruth, what y'all doinnnnn? Nuuuu TT________TT

It broke my heart to see Chise's expressions of betrayal when Elias admitted to swapping out her life with Stella's :( Jealousy is mean, green monster hahaha

Looks like Renfred's prediction at the auction was right after all, lol
"It'll be interesting to see how long that lasts. Living creatures change, whether they desire it or not." -Renfred, ep 19
Aaaannnnddddddd Chise willingly left Elias :(((

I love Ariel. So helpful ^.^

Maybe Joseph and Chise can find some happy medium between their opposite curses. But she still shouldn't trust him ofc bc of many reasons lmao. Sucks that she got blackmailed into doing what he wants tho, so that's unfortunate and inevitable :/
Nov 15, 2018 6:01 PM

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"As long as the dragon is still alive, the curse cannot be broken."

So, uh...is killing the fucking dragon not an option? Seems better than human sacrifice.
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Nov 29, 2018 11:24 PM

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Shit, this is really really bad

So many mixed feelings ahhhhh

Elias went down a really dark, selfish path to save her

Ruth didn't stop him even though he should have known how much it would hurt Chise

This is the most top-tier level screw-up I've ever seen

And then Chise runs off with Josephilus

THIS IS REALLY BAD
Feb 8, 2019 5:22 PM

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Does this have anything to do with the monster that kidnapped Ethan? I had a feeling the ending to that arc was too good to be true
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May 20, 2019 6:39 AM

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Vysarine said:
Shit, this is really really bad

So many mixed feelings ahhhhh

Elias went down a really dark, selfish path to save her

Ruth didn't stop him even though he should have known how much it would hurt Chise

This is the most top-tier level screw-up I've ever seen

And then Chise runs off with Josephilus

THIS IS REALLY BAD


ikr both are idiots
Oct 6, 2019 12:01 AM

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Things are starting to go downhill!
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Nov 13, 2019 10:03 AM

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This episode seems to open a new narrative arc, which will take us very far and with very good premises, at least it seems so. The narrative proved intriguing and the final twists were the icing on the cake.
Nov 19, 2019 9:20 AM
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Thank god Chise finally leave. If only Elias could never appear again I would be so happy. It's been quite some time now that I have to let few weeks or months between the episodes because of Elias. The old guy who buy a young girl to make it his bride. And the fact that Chise seemed to appreciate him just make it worse. I guess it was some kind of Stockholm syndrome. And to all people who say that what he wanted to do was for Chise it's obviously not true. It was all for him. He want to keep Chise close to him and even choose to use Stella because she had become close to her to and that annoyed him...he even said it.
Dec 20, 2019 5:25 PM
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Damn that cliffhanger... Chise in mad mode was scary, and poor Stella :(
Mar 11, 2020 11:59 AM

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Argh, I hate it when the characters can't simply say what's going on... I mean Chise noticed that Stella is possessed relatively fast, but still Elias could've told her before.
Jun 1, 2020 3:46 PM

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No one is wrong. Everyone is just weird asf as to what they want. sometimes Being neutral could save you lots of pain, which is why Lindel wonders why people do these things.

Also being transparent would have helped lolz

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Aug 19, 2020 5:12 PM

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y'know, Chise was right afterall, Elias is just a really old kid paying as badass.
Sep 24, 2020 7:10 AM

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damn, my hatred for elias has been building up for quite a long time, now there isn't one thing i like about him.
Nov 15, 2020 5:36 AM

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This was intense, Elias was so desperate otherwise he wouldn't have done that.

this gonna escalate even more.
Dec 21, 2020 2:18 PM

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I felt bad seeing the relationship between Chise and Elias be so strained in that episode to the point where she punched him, decided to leave Elias and go off on her own to try and save herself by letting her go with Cartaphilius who let Stella go as a trade (he possessed Stella previously during the whole ordeal). Still though, Elias definitely deserved that one. He wanted to help Chise out but went about it completely the wrong way, and given Chise's history of insecurity, having Elias sacrifice someone completely made him to look like the others who abused her in the past. Hopefully the relationship rectifies himself but man, Elias and even Ruth blindly fucked up there. To also play devil's advocate, Chise fucked up the moment she was alone to acquire the Dragon's Curse and now she chastises Elias for handling this in the worst fashion possible when they promised to do this together, kind of double standards moment there. It's just a bunch of desperate idiots at hand trying to figure out what to do without truly relying on each other and instead sacrificing each other in different manners, physically or emotionally. Who knows what's Cartaphilius is going to do to Chise, but it's not going to be pretty, that's for sure. Great episode with a lot of intensity to it, especially on the music and dub voice acting front.
Jun 16, 2021 3:20 PM

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I’ll be honest I didn’t expect Elias to want to sacrifice Stella I thought he wanted to break the familiar contract between Chise and Ruth and sacrifice Ruth to save Chise a life for a life
Sep 28, 2021 12:01 PM

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I'm still having a hard time understanding Cartiphilus' motives if all he wants is peace why is he making others suffer? It pains me to see the two of them fighting but I guess that makes for good conflict.
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Oct 24, 2021 6:14 PM

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Finally seeing chise getting pissed. Was like a breath of fresh air. Shes never really gotten angry at elias, just a bit upset with him. But now seeing her let it all out(great right hook btw) after him trying to pull that shit was great to see. Im surprised ruth went along with something so stupid. He knows thats not what chise would want and would probably try to kill herself after it was done.
Dec 10, 2021 1:49 PM
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We all got chills from Chise's glare. When her usual calm demeanor gets that intense, you know she means business.
Mar 5, 2022 9:08 AM
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Whelp....I lost massive respect for Elias this episode. But I do understand where he is coming from. Elias just doesn't have the morals and empathy that humans have.
Also disappointed in Ruth. Thought Ruth would choose to disagree due to the familiar emotional bond. Surely he would have known how much sacrificing Stella, one of Chise's only friends, would have hurt Chise.
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Aug 17, 2022 9:29 PM
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The plot is thickening. i like it
Oct 28, 2022 10:00 AM

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Jesus christ.. really? Elias for such a petty reason and then that unnecessary misunderstanding. Also Chise's to blame here too, should've been patient enough to hear counter argument but no she went with the fist, and then got herself caught later on obviously.

Pretty frustrating episode.
Jan 1, 2023 7:32 PM

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Chise, que grande eres, al fin abres los ojos, aunque yendo con Cartaphilus... Bueno, que se le puede hacer, estaba amenazada.

Me lo esperaba del pendejo de Elias pero de Ruth?


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Feb 11, 2023 11:43 PM

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I feel really bad and sad for Stella who doesn't know anything about this and gets possessed by Cartaphilus.

I can understand why Chise is angry and I'm honestly upset with Elias' decision but at the same time I can also understand why Elias did it.

Apr 4, 2023 11:47 PM

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man, nevin is the dude. things got heavy really fast.
Apr 11, 2023 11:13 PM

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And they just agreed they'd do this together. Interesting how clear minded Elias was on WHO to target. Chise was quick on the uptake too. It's understandable with no other options to keep her alive. But they didn't take her feelings into account
(and Chise being pissed off is scary af)
Apr 25, 2023 2:36 AM
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A dark episode where Chise's condition cannot be cured even by the witches. So Elias tries to use Stella's life as a way to lift the curse but he was interrupted by Chise. Stella was possessed by the sorcerror Joseph who took Chise away.
Jul 16, 2023 10:30 PM

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Elias you really became the monster here....but Carty did you kill Stella?
Aug 13, 2023 12:04 PM

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