| it's like a less gay version of bakugan |
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| No it's vastly overrated for some reasons I can't see unfortunately. |
| At least it's a complete adaptation. Pedigerous2424 said: Has anyone actually read what I've written? Nope. |
Pedigerous2424 said: Has anyone actually read what I've written? Probably not, and good for them. This babble of psuedo criticism isn't worth anyone's time. |
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| Coincidence is anime norm (why is Griffith the chosen one, and Guts coincidentally befriend him? etc), and it doesn't really affect the story in general. The bakuman plot doesn't move because of the coincidences, but hard work. More often the coincidences is just an extra motivation for Mashiro (his uncle things). Manga theme is always a focus from season 1 until season 3. In s2, we see MC's struggle to find the genre that suits them. We also see different editor that is not as good as Hatori. In S3 we have antagonist who borrow ideas from other people, and the message is mangaka need to struggle with their own idea with the aid of editor. We also got to see battle of MC duo and Niizuma to get the first place in magz and tankobon sales. Mc duo had swore to beat Niizuma and s3 is their struggle. We also got reminded how good of an editor Hatori is while he is helping Mashiro and Takagi (getting anime and finish manga early). The problem with Miho is she works in different career and rarely gets focus. Miho's last arc is necessary because heroine need to shine and they need a closing to her promise with Mashiro (Btw seiyuu getting death threats is a real daily life in seiyuu industry). In her arc,eventhough it's brief we could see her strong will and determination. Fat assistant is an example of life is not always what you wanted. Aoki learned many things with her career. She used to be prideful and think she's superior, but she open up to learn from Takagi and Fukuda. She also works hard, always trying after failing many times. Her marrying Hiramaru, I think is the author's way to appreciate or reward all Hiramaru's hard work. Iwase is not replacement or anything. Maybe her character exist to show that making manga is not as easy as writing novel. Manga is long running and you need to keep the idea interesting. Last but not least, a series doesn't have obligation to develop all of its character in the same portion. That's why there are 'main' and 'supporting' characters, with main always be the focus. Just because a girl is MC's love interest doesn't mean she's a main too. |
| You don't have to like it, but your criticism seems pretty garbage-tier so I don't see it convincing anyone. I mean it starts with you complaining about what is literally the setup of the show, the basic premise that the author has come up with and ranting about too many 'coincidences' in it. You mean to say that a fictional premise an author came up with feels like it is constructed for the sole purpose of having an interesting and entertaining setup without paying too much attention to being realistic? You don't say. You obviously want to dislike the show no matter how unreasonable you have to get to 'criticize' it and are willing to pretend that suspension of disbelief, something you apply to every other show at the beginning to just accept the basic setup and go from there, doesn't exist just to have some pseudo-arguments about 'coincidences'. Either that or you really have no idea how writing works, how fiction in general works, in which case it's just kinda sad. In any case that first paragraph tells me all about how you approach the show and criticising it that I need to know to ignore the rest of the post as just ramblings of a person dedicated to hating on a show even if he has to grasp at straws to even try to make a point. But I still read it and it's literally not even criticism, just you listing a bunch of your preferences and all your 'arguments' are subjective terms like 'interesting' or 'disliked' or 'insufferable' that have no relevance for anyone that isn't you, and no way to reply to them beyond saying 'I see it differently'. You don't like the characters, you don't like the colors (the colors ffs, how desperate can you get with your criticism -.-), you don't like the soundtrack. Those aren't even close to arguments, those are just you deciding to dislike literally everything you could name about the show and telling us about it. Good for you, but why should we give a fuck? Why do you think those are arguments and not just preferences? Arguments look differently, because you can actually reply to them and argue about them. There is no arguing about you just factually stating that you didn't like anything about the show. My bet is you just enjoy feeling like a special snowflake for disliking a highly regarded anime and felt the need to share that with the world, to let them know how different you are. Newsflash: almost everyone has a title like that. I think Shitgatsu is legit one of the worst pieces of trash fiction ever conceived, for example, but I'm not making threads on AD about it just to let people know. It's okay to have titles like that, to have preferences that don't align with one or some popular or acclaimed titles. But judging from your post you should leave the criticism to others cause you're pretty bad at it imo. Have a good day. |
AlcoholicideFeb 19, 2018 7:12 AM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| because bakuman is boring and people like boring stuff |
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| >Coincidences are bad writing. That's literally how the majority of any storytelling media work. Unlike the majority, I for one found the romance in the story to be its weakest part. |
| "why do people like things that i don't?" probably the most pointless question that people will never stop asking just because you can point out 100 "flaws" you think you've found in an anime doesn't mean that's not just your own opinion or issue |
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Brb said: >Coincidences are bad writing. That's literally how the majority of any storytelling media work. Unlike the majority, I for one found the romance in the story to be its weakest part. you just mean the main romance or the romance in general? I really liked some of the romance arcs for side characters. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Pullman said: Brb said: >Coincidences are bad writing. That's literally how the majority of any storytelling media work. Unlike the majority, I for one found the romance in the story to be its weakest part. you just mean the main romance or the romance in general? I really liked some of the romance arcs for side characters. The main one, yeah. Felt kinda forced from the get go. I didn't mind the side ones as much. |
| Just deal with it man, it's better if you write review rather than a thread like this ... I don't think you will change your opinion by this thread, neither other peoples will ... I also found many 8.5+ animes are freaking bad, much worse than Bakuman.. But that is how rating system from thousands and millions people works ... |
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| I thought this was a post about Bakugan and got excited. But these kinds of questions are asked alot. The answer is actually pretty easy, people have different tastes. |
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| I've read the manga, it didn't impress me at all. So I didn't check out the anime when it came out. |
| I really enjoyed it because it made me feel good watching these middle school kids achieve their goals and taught me more about the manga industry. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| Most of the stuff Shounen Jump publishes tend to be popular, dunno why you're surprised |
| Never watched it. I want to know this too. Why does it have a high rating? |
 i like avocados on toast |
| 10/10 shitpost try harder tbh smfh . |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
| yeah it's not that good, but i mean alot of other mediocre to bad shows have high scores as well ie. fairy tail. also tl;dr, just save that text for the review section |
| N.etorare T.echnical R.esearcher |
| idk I enjoyed the manga for it and I don't rate my personal list critically, but rather, it's based on enjoyment |
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| like some other people have pointed out the coincidence thing is a pretty stupid thing 2 bitch about almost all anime/manga are based on just coincidences like the MC having some super power just cuz or someone meeting a person that changes their lives just cuz and so on. But i do agree with you that they focused on something pretty stupid in this series the romance between mashiro and miho both of which are pretty unlikable characters, as you said miho is bland and uninteresting and mashiro is a really, really unlikable character in like all departments especially when he's talking about miho, the promise they make is also very stupid, well maybe not the promise itself but the way they go about it, let's just send emails and not talk to each other for years? then get married? yeah pretty retarded even more so considering that after that they're seated together for a year and never talk to each other. The relationship between those 2 characters is unbearable and the way mashiro constantly bitches 2 Takagi about it is pretty obnoxious for a pretty long while mashiro is also a real bitch cuz he gets jealous that Takagi is having a fun relationship with Kaya. This story could have just not put that romance plot in here and it would be the same thing really just try and picture it and the whole romance between mashiro and miho is pointless just makes mashiro really fucking annoying all throughout the show making things hard on everyone else. Anways the reason people like this is probably cuz the relationship between mashiro and Takagi is pretty nice 2 people working together to create a manga supporting each other, coming up with ideas, all of that stuff is pretty fun and Takagi is a pretty fun character and i personally really enjoyed Kaya and her relationship with Takagi, she supports what he wants to do, learns more about it as the show progresses, learns to help out in the manga creation, helps with the creative process and overall is a nice person with a strong personality if that had been the main romance plot point then i think this series would truly deserve as much praise as is given but the miho and mashiro shit? yeah pointless. Anyways i think people liked that at the start the mashiro x Takagi bromance and how they make manga was pretty interesting also learning something about the process of how manga is made was pretty fun and some of the side-characters later on just as you said are really fucking fun, Takagi is a cool character and i personally also really like hi s relationship with Kaya so that's another + but yeah later on all the side characters become pretty 1 dimensional and the mashiro just becomes more and more annoying and the promise just seems more and more stupid and pointless. The ending was also pretty disappointing sure they kiss but after they hyped up the wedding so much it was a slap in the face that we never got it, i think the author really did a shitty thing ending things there but hey it would have been really hard to suddenly give a personality to miho who until the end was as interesting as white rice, and mashiro even at the end was a little bitch so no way he was getting anything done ..... |
Altay545Mar 10, 2018 1:41 AM
 Truly, comparisons between fellow humans are what turn out to be the most infuriating. |
| I liked it because it tells about how the anime/manga industry is like in Japan. The characters were interesting and the plot was always going so I never got bored from it. Also it has a nostalgia factor as it was one of my first mangas |
| TL:DR (So all of you don't have to read that giant, badly written, rant) OP doesn't like neither the characters nor the art nor the music. And wants people to tell him if he's wrong. |
 One man is no more than another, if he do no more than what another does. |
ElliotRodger2424 said: Brb said: >Coincidences are bad writing. That's literally how the majority of any storytelling media work. Unlike the majority, I for one found the romance in the story to be its weakest part. I think i worded the coincidence part incorrectly, what i was going for was that it does poor job at covering the coincidences, isn't a stories aim to cover up to cover up as much coincidences as possible, and yeah thanks m8, i am aware that all stories are made up of coincidences, but, like i said before, some stories do a better job at covering it up then others. Uh, no. Literally rarely has any work attempted to cover up coincidences, apart from one liners like "power gathers in the precipice of history, "people gather where there is conflict" or "strife begets growth" which justifies why major characters gather in time of conflict but not at time of peace, and mystery anime, whose description may sometimes require explaining how coincidences happen. There's also the mc is secretly a prince, reincarnation or something, but that requires using coincidence to cover up a coincidence. Coincidences aren't covered up, but rather, justified, which is what almost every story tries to do. |
ElliotRodger2424 said: Thank you, finally some one who has read the post and agree's with me!!!! I just felt like this Idea was bugging me so i had to get it out there, thanks for reading No problem man, no problem at all i also had this idea for a long time and again agree with you on a lot of your points people are just blinded. |
Truly, comparisons between fellow humans are what turn out to be the most infuriating. |
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