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Mar 23, 2010 10:21 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ramba Ral and the Gouf make their debut!

Seems like Zeon is using Garma's death to their advantage.
I loved Char's commentary, "..because he's a spoiled brat."

Hmm, I supported Zeon since it was said that they wanted "liberation" or "freedom"..
But now I dislike their plans for a dictatorship.
Jul 28, 2010 6:02 AM
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I loled when Ryu slapped Amuro, it was hilarious~
Is it just me, or Mirai has the hots for Bright? Since they don't animate blushing, I can't say this for sure~
Char in sunglasses~ pure win~
Aug 13, 2010 7:06 AM
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Good to see the Gundam getting owned for the first time.

Another great bitch slap.

Char seems to be in a dangerous situation.

Hail Zeon !

Oct 11, 2010 8:14 AM
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Needs more Char awesomeness
Dec 11, 2010 10:27 PM
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Hmm, I'm sensing Kacillia will try and recruit Char instead of trying to kill him.
Feb 17, 2011 1:03 PM
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I actually really liked this episode.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

- Geralt of Rivia
Mar 17, 2011 1:34 PM
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crap completely missed this ep, saw 13 instead. Gotta wacth this...I'm sure the bitch slap alone will make it worth it
"...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth')
Jul 4, 2011 5:30 AM
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Sieg Kaiserr Reinhardoo!!!!!
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Sep 6, 2011 3:22 PM
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This is getting better.

Char >>> Amuro btw
Dec 9, 2011 2:28 AM
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Amuro continues to descend into insanity. He managed to finally pull himself together at the last moment.
May 1, 2012 12:47 PM

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"This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!"

Some very memorable moments in this episode. I think I'm getting hooked.
Dec 22, 2012 9:46 AM

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I've got to say that I'm really liking how this series is touching PTSD and all that. Amuro is is becoming a pretty intriguing character to me.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

- Geralt of Rivia
Feb 21, 2013 4:39 PM

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Amuro's eyes he looked completely fucked lol

Ral is pretty awesome too, blue Zaku.

I'm guessing Char will be taking a backseat for a while.
Jul 3, 2013 8:31 PM

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Amuro's eyes without pupils were freaky. Nice to see somewhat realistic description of child soldier and what happens when battle stress comes back to bite them.

Sieg Zeon! \o
Aug 18, 2013 2:39 PM

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Epic speech.
Sieg Zeon!
Dec 18, 2013 10:58 AM
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HELLA
Jan 9, 2014 12:29 AM
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Amuro went all Glass Mask eyes on us. Those blank eyes will always scare me forever.

and holy balls...that suit/sunglasses service from Char.
Feb 28, 2014 10:07 AM

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Damn those white eyes were scary as all hell. I loved the battle between Ramba Ral and Amuro. The old dude seems like a more than competent pilot.
May 27, 2014 4:37 PM
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wow great stuff, amuro's character and his struggle is just great. very realistic.
Jun 1, 2014 1:33 AM

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Another ace episode :)

Seems Amuro is still being scarred on what happened with Icelina from the desert battle.

Mirai really cares for Bright huh :D

Hamon looks like Icelina to be honest. Same hairstyle and all.

Damn what happened to Amuro's eyes during the lightning! He look like he's seen a ghost!!

Ryu briightslapping him once again!!

Damn that Ramba Ral knows how to fight!!

So this is the infamous "This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!" scene :P

Char with that suit!! Love he Char played Garma like a spoiled child and died as one ^^

Now Amuro and his crew know who their enemy is. I hope to see more exciting fights!!

Can't wait for the next episode!!
Dec 6, 2014 4:01 PM

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Ah cool, we've got a new story intro this episode. Also, new commercial bumpers. :)

Amuro seems to be going through a lot being forced into battle after battle like this.

It was interesting to see Zeon spreading their propaganda, but really "sieg zeon"? did the writers really have to go with the Nazi parallels?

Anyway, the show seems to be getting more and more interesting.
::End of Transmission::


Mar 4, 2015 3:40 AM

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Amuro seemed pretty shell shocked in this episode. I can only hope it doesn't grow worse, especially if more of those blue Zakus start showing up.

This episode had a good bit more politics than usual. Seeing how Zeon reacts to Garma's death is interesting, but I'm not sure how much additional insight it really provides. I'm more concerned with how the ruler is reacting to this. He doesn't seem to interested in interacting with the people, and wants to grieve alone...

In any case, this is indeed getting more interesting. I wonder what that guy wanted with Char.
Mar 26, 2015 2:46 AM

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That speech ! SIEG ZEON !
Sep 14, 2015 4:43 AM

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Sieg Kaiser Reinhard!

...wait, wrong show.

Anyway, bit of character development and worldbuilding this episode, nice to see.
Dec 17, 2015 1:59 PM
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Another great episode. Amuro's PTSD is really well handled I feel. Going into this I'd heard how this series was slow moving and outdated but I've been impressed time and time again with it. I find the character work has more depth and subtlety than most modern shows, with only stuff like the first season of Tokyo Ghoul matching it. A great series!

ETA: Loved the dramatic extended scene of Amuro eating a sandwich. Very excite!
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Apr 16, 2016 8:05 AM

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Things do not go as I expected or as I remembered it, the better. Quite addictive storytelling, the story starts to get more interesting, you start to get into even if in small steps, know best the enemy. I did not expect to see Amuro be defeated so miserably, not even the point of the flag can do. Oh! There's a change in eyecatch.
May 19, 2016 5:58 AM

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This is no Zaku boy....been waiting for that one.

And also HAIL ZEON!!!!

Char was quite the badass again.
Jul 12, 2016 6:52 PM

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Another episode with great development! Let's see what happens next.
Aug 31, 2016 8:21 PM

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Amuro really needs to turn it around. We also get our first good look at what Zeon really is.

Amuro Ray Kill Count:
0 Mobile Suit kills this episode
16 kills total.
Sep 30, 2016 8:55 AM

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Good episode, happy to see that Amuro seems to be slightly maturing.
Feb 9, 2017 10:28 AM
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This is no zaku boy. That new mobile suit is bad ass. I loved the scene with Amuro eating the sandwich too. Great episode, keeps getting better. Plus Char is always welcomed.
Apr 7, 2017 3:11 PM

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Char's comment on that speech was absolutely golden. LOL
Jun 1, 2017 11:15 PM
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Gundam impresses me all the time, but I think this might've been my favorite episode so far.

Jul 26, 2017 4:55 AM

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That speech at the end of the episode was fantastic. Actually gave me goosebumps. After hearing that, you cannot blame the Zeon soldiers wanting to run through a brick wall. Watching the dub, so huge shout out to Hiro Kanagawa (I think) who played Gihern Zambia. Great work.
Aug 15, 2017 6:31 AM
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mshea1213 said:
That speech at the end of the episode was fantastic. Actually gave me goosebumps. After hearing that, you cannot blame the Zeon soldiers wanting to run through a brick wall. Watching the dub, so huge shout out to Hiro Kanagawa (I think) who played Gihern Zambia. Great work.


Yeah it was good, inspirational for them I'm sure.

Liked seeing Ramba Ral here. He runs a tight outfit.
Nov 21, 2017 11:26 PM
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A Gundam getting owned is NEVER EVER GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 15, 2018 1:12 PM

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Because he was a spoiled brat, lol, gotta love Char.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


May 27, 2018 5:07 PM

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That blue Zeon suit is powerful, and Amuro just wasn't prepared.

Hopefully the next time Amuro encounters that blue suit, he'll fare better.

Dec 18, 2018 11:48 AM

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Whew, I'm really starting to enjoy this series. Sieg Zeon!!!
Mar 7, 2019 1:50 PM

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So those born and raised on the satellite cities had no idea what lightning is? Really?
Sep 7, 2020 6:18 PM

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We get a better glimpse at Zeon's inner workings and how fascism takes over a revolution. It's chilling given the current climate. That closing scene with the White Base flying away after defeat as the Zeon people chant the name...
Sep 12, 2020 9:51 AM

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It was a nice addition that the people from Side 7 didn't know about storms since they never heard one. Makes the series feel more realistic like more PTSD issues for Amuro after Iceliana's death.

Sieg Zeon!
All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath.
Oct 4, 2020 8:49 AM

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I felt that one idea this episode got across was the fatigue of responsibility. There was a parallel between Bright and Amuro in this lens. Bright who yelled at the children before regretting making them cry and patting their heads, a great expression of his character in a vacuum. What followed was Mirai comforting him and commenting on the difficulties of leadership. One has to respect Bright's resolve. On the other side, we see the fatigue of Amuro, facing PTSD, and comforted by Ryu. You know, after the slap! Seeing that side to the crew helps build bonds between them and help realize them as people.

This fatigue blended into the battlefield, ideas blended with action, as we both cut to the funeral on Zeon's side, and witnessed the moustached foe giving Amuro a thrashing.

Another aspect of responsibility, although not in the same light, was the responsibility the Zabi family want Char to take for being unable to stop Garma's death.

For an unrelated note, Zeon seems to use the genuine issues of elitism from the Federation to inspire their people to fight in their name and, presuming the narrator was objective, take full control of all humanity. Refugees carry coffee beans in their pockets and want to die on Earth, I didn't catch it in the anime but somebody said in one of these threads that only the rich got to stay on Earth. Earth is a magical place, land and oceans, storms, these are things some people have never seen before, and others deeply miss.

Garma was a good window for getting to know the Zabi family and creating new conflict! I must continue to applaud the narrative for forcing our characters into the heart of conflict with minimalist reasons very naturally. There's a sense of flow and substance. I think it's part of what makes this anime so addictive.
Jul 27, 2021 6:37 AM

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Wonder why the Zeon troops just retreated like that. They seemed to have the upper hand. Maybe they just wanted to test the waters a little and see what the gundam can do.

It's pretty interesting how Zeon gets all the spotlight, while the federation still seems very faceless. Hope that'll change soon, because at this rate 80% of all the proper characters are Zeon guys, lol.

Some serious Nazi vibes from Zeon with the "Sieg Zeon" stuff too.
Oct 28, 2022 2:11 PM

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Amuro is sure experiencing a lot of trauma from constant battle, so much pressure for a kid. It was cool to see a new mobile suit that is more powerful than a Zaku. Also, Char in a suit and sunglasses is everything.
Nov 7, 2022 3:49 PM
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we get to see more of amuro's mental scars, zeon is presented in a more tangible way, ramba the goat ral appears, kycilia tries to get char to work for her. Yeah, you can tell the plot getting better and more complex.
Nov 9, 2022 12:37 PM
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pretty heartbreaking episode, quite ballsy to be airing this kinda stuff back then
Mar 16, 2023 8:50 PM

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amuro soullessly eating the sandwiches and then getting hit again while in the midst of his ptsd increases my approval of him as the main character.
Apr 2, 2023 2:38 PM
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Amuro is a spoiled kid just like Garma, so it makes the latter's death pretty interesting. It'll be interesting to see how Amuro copes and if his PTSD will play any part in the politics of the whole situation.
May 30, 2023 9:10 AM

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Does anyone know the name of the soundtrack played during the end of this episode?
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