| No. Episode 6 six have the episodic format as episode 2. Stilll every episode is for a side character to 'felt' something for them (only episode 6 was canon, but it was rushed). Of course, the animation is still good. |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
| what exactly is wrong with the direction? The source material aside, it's still not a bad show like everyone makes it out to be. I'm still feeling the power of emotions on this show and it doesn't really feel 1-dimensional like most make it out to be as well. It was already good even up to now. All I see about the hate for the show is usually it's episodic nature and how most of it is anime original but there's clearly nothing wrong with the show. It's not even boring imo. |
EGOISTFeb 17, 2018 12:30 AM
| Violet isn't as annoying in those first 2 episodes and can at least smile, and novel content has finally started getting adapted (rushed though) |
 "Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
| Its always funny to read about "(insult for human intelligence of an) anime" while people have GATE scored as 10/10, guess that's the community for you. Never change. |
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| Imo it has gotten better, but I mean it's still pretty much the same. Doubt you'll like it if you didn't like the first few episodes. |
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normaneko said: Depression? I think you're completely missing the whole point of the anime. It soughts to answer the question "What is Love?" What exactly do you mean by the animation not fitting for the series? It is and the backgrounds are beautiful as well as its setting, LMAO I don't even know what to say with the "shiny" thing. It just doesn't make sense to me about why you're whining about the show's visual appeal. Yeah, the directing is a bit of an oscar-bait but that's just about it. Pretty pointless discussion if you aren't going to mention the flaws of the show since you're literally just complaining rather than make valid points on your opinion of the show.EGOIST said: what exactly is wrong with the direction? The source material aside, it's still not a bad show like everyone makes it out to be. I'm still feeling the power of emotions on this show and it doesn't really feel 1-dimensional like most make it out to be as well. It was already good even up to now. All I see about the hate for the show is usually it's episodic nature and how most of it is anime original but there's clearly nothing wrong with the show. It's not even boring imo. I think an anime mainly about depression and/or mental issues shouldn't have this kind of art style. But instead, KyoAni think everyone is an idiot and throw something POINTLESSLY SHINY at them, regardless whether it make sense or not. I have a feeling (and I'm really sure about it) that KyoAni trying so hard to win some dumb anime and movie awards with this anime, and I hate that, it remind me of 2016 Crunchyroll Anime Awards. |
| I think an anime mainly about depression and/or mental issues shouldn't have this kind of art style. Are you actually an (insult for human intelligence) ? |
LuftschlossFeb 20, 2018 12:09 PM
EGOIST said: normaneko said: Depression? I think you're completely missing the whole point of the anime. It soughts to answer the question "What is Love?" What exactly do you mean by the animation not fitting for the series? It is and the backgrounds are beautiful as well as its setting, LMAO I don't even know what to say with the "shiny" thing. It just doesn't make sense to me about why you're whining about the show's visual appeal. Yeah, the directing is a bit of an oscar-bait but that's just about it. Pretty pointless discussion if you aren't going to mention the flaws of the show since you're literally just complaining rather than make valid points on your opinion of the show.I think an anime mainly about depression and/or mental issues shouldn't have this kind of art style. But instead, KyoAni think everyone is an idiot and throw something POINTLESSLY SHINY at them, regardless whether it make sense or not. I have a feeling (and I'm really sure about it) that KyoAni trying so hard to win some dumb anime and movie awards with this anime, and I hate that, it remind me of 2016 Crunchyroll Anime Awards. 'I see about the hate for the show' 'you're literally just complaining rather than make valid points on your opinion of the show' *Overall score: 8.40 'hate'. Ok. *'Valid points'. If i praise this show = valid point? Let me see my points: boring, slow, no character development in some episodes (some are just side character background, ex. ep. 4 and 5), someone tell Violet what happened to Gilbert (why nobody can't do that?), episode 6 rushed, episode 5 Violet is a side character, episode 4 Iris and family problems, episode 3 'i write some words to pass the course', episode 2 was funny (i like that) and episode 1 the flashbacks. Is 4/10 for me and i don't will give a much low score only for the animation. Nobody have the right to said what is a 'valid' point because all of us we think differently. See you! |
NurguburuFeb 17, 2018 6:35 AM
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Burguburu said: Don't get me wrong, As far as what I've read from his posts he only complained about the shows art and animation not being fitting for the show. Can you please cite a point he said mentioning anything about the story? Because he hasn'tEGOIST said: Depression? I think you're completely missing the whole point of the anime. It soughts to answer the question "What is Love?" What exactly do you mean by the animation not fitting for the series? It is and the backgrounds are beautiful as well as its setting, LMAO I don't even know what to say with the "shiny" thing. It just doesn't make sense to me about why you're whining about the show's visual appeal. Yeah, the directing is a bit of an oscar-bait but that's just about it. Pretty pointless discussion if you aren't going to mention the flaws of the show since you're literally just complaining rather than make valid points on your opinion of the show. 'I see about the hate for the show' 'you're literally just complaining rather than make valid points on your opinion of the show' *Overall score: 8.40 'hate'. Ok. *'Valid points'. If i praise this show = valid point? Let me see my points: boring, slow, no character development in some episodes (some are just side character background, ex. ep. 4 and 5), someone tell Violet what happened to Gilbert (why nobody can't do that?), episode 6 rushed, episode 5 Violet is a side character, episode 4 Iris and family problems, episode 3 'i write some words and i pass the course', episode 2 was funny (i like that) and episode 1 the flashbacks. Is 4/10 for me and i don't will give a much low score only for the animation. Nobody have the right to said what is a 'valid' point because all of us we think differently. Let me give you a bigger picture regarding the 'hate' https://myanimelist.net/anime/33352/Violet_Evergarden/forum?topic=other I don't know if you've noticed but before the anime aired, it's mean score was around 8.70 but now it's 8.40. It's a pretty huge blow for an anime that was surrounded a lot of hype before it started. I can see this show falling on the low 8's if it continued at this pace(which most people do not like). The haters are more vocal than the lovers as far as this site goes (episode discussions and to random comments). I'm gonna say this again but please reread what OP has posted and tell to me what exactly has he/she said regarding the storyline. Because I see none. Don't give me that bullshit. Valid Points are there for debate which sparks up discussion which this thread doesn't really have. What you mentioned are yes, example of valid points that are entitled to subjectivity but no one is really interested in what you have to say if you leave them at that. What makes it boring? slow? etc. Stopping there is just too vague and it feels more like you don't have a good feel for the show. Buzzwords aren't enough if you're going to try to start a discussion. Valid(Acceptable) point does not equate to good points just so you won't confuse them. Valid points are points that can be seen in the show, it can be good or bad (entitled to subjectivity). I don't really give a fuck if you give it a 1/10 or a 10/10. |
EGOISTFeb 17, 2018 6:48 AM
EGOIST said: Burguburu said: Don't get me wrong, As far as what I've read from his posts he only complained about the shows art and animation not being fitting for the show. Can you please cite a point he said mentioning anything about the story? Because he hasn't'I see about the hate for the show' 'you're literally just complaining rather than make valid points on your opinion of the show' *Overall score: 8.40 'hate'. Ok. *'Valid points'. If i praise this show = valid point? Let me see my points: boring, slow, no character development in some episodes (some are just side character background, ex. ep. 4 and 5), someone tell Violet what happened to Gilbert (why nobody can't do that?), episode 6 rushed, episode 5 Violet is a side character, episode 4 Iris and family problems, episode 3 'i write some words and i pass the course', episode 2 was funny (i like that) and episode 1 the flashbacks. Is 4/10 for me and i don't will give a much low score only for the animation. Nobody have the right to said what is a 'valid' point because all of us we think differently. Let me give you a bigger picture regarding the 'hate' https://myanimelist.net/anime/33352/Violet_Evergarden/forum?topic=other I don't know if you've noticed but before the anime aired, it's mean score was around 8.70 but now it's 8.40. It's a pretty huge blow for an anime that was surrounded a lot of hype before it started. I can see this show falling on the low 8's if it continued at this pace(which most people do not like). The haters are more vocal than the lovers as far as this site goes (episode discussions and to random comments). I'm gonna say this again but please reread what OP has posted and tell to me what exactly has he/she said regarding the storyline. Because I see none. Don't give me that bullshit. Valid Points are there for debate which sparks up discussion which this thread doesn't really have. What you mentioned are yes, example of valid points that are entitled to subjectivity but no one is really interested in what you have to say if you leave them at that. What makes it boring? slow? etc. Stopping there is just too vague and it feels more like you don't have a good feel for the show. Buzzwords aren't enough if you're going to try to start a discussion. Valid(Acceptable) point does not equate to good points just so you won't confuse them. Valid points are points that can be seen in the show, it can be good or bad (entitled to subjectivity). I don't really give a fuck if you give it a 1/10 or a 10/10. EGOIST said: Burguburu said: Don't get me wrong, As far as what I've read from his posts he only complained about the shows art and animation not being fitting for the show. Can you please cite a point he said mentioning anything about the story? Because he hasn't'I see about the hate for the show' 'you're literally just complaining rather than make valid points on your opinion of the show' *Overall score: 8.40 'hate'. Ok. *'Valid points'. If i praise this show = valid point? Let me see my points: boring, slow, no character development in some episodes (some are just side character background, ex. ep. 4 and 5), someone tell Violet what happened to Gilbert (why nobody can't do that?), episode 6 rushed, episode 5 Violet is a side character, episode 4 Iris and family problems, episode 3 'i write some words and i pass the course', episode 2 was funny (i like that) and episode 1 the flashbacks. Is 4/10 for me and i don't will give a much low score only for the animation. Nobody have the right to said what is a 'valid' point because all of us we think differently. Let me give you a bigger picture regarding the 'hate' https://myanimelist.net/anime/33352/Violet_Evergarden/forum?topic=other I don't know if you've noticed but before the anime aired, it's mean score was around 8.70 but now it's 8.40. It's a pretty huge blow for an anime that was surrounded a lot of hype before it started. I can see this show falling on the low 8's if it continued at this pace(which most people do not like). The haters are more vocal than the lovers as far as this site goes (episode discussions and to random comments). I'm gonna say this again but please reread what OP has posted and tell to me what exactly has he/she said regarding the storyline. Because I see none. Don't give me that bullshit. Valid Points are there for debate which sparks up discussion which this thread doesn't really have. What you mentioned are yes, example of valid points that are entitled to subjectivity but no one is really interested in what you have to say if you leave them at that. What makes it boring? slow? etc. Stopping there is just too vague and it feels more like you don't have a good feel for the show. Buzzwords aren't enough if you're going to try to start a discussion. Valid(Acceptable) point does not equate to good points just so you won't confuse them. Valid points are points that can be seen in the show, it can be good or bad (entitled to subjectivity). I don't really give a fuck if you give it a 1/10 or a 10/10. I'm not defending anyone. Is just that (again) the word 'hate' appears: *Yes, it's boring. Each flashback of filler or side character is tragic or overdramatic (nodoby get's tired of that?). Some happy flashback, please! The anime wants me to felt something about them? Is character development? 1) Yes, but is very repetitive. 2) Sometimes nope. *Yes, it's slow. 1) Why they can't start the anime with episodes about the war and later with the tragic past of everybody? 2) I repeat myself 'someone tell Violet what happened to Gilbert (why nobody can't do that?)' This will solve the problem of our MC about what happened to him. 3) Episode 4 and 5 lacks of character development, is just filler so no progression. I forget said that the pacing is bad. The last episode was rushed. There is not normal pacing. Ep 1.3.4 and 5 very slow. Ep 2 and 6 rushed. 8.70? Because the anime was overhyped months ago. Is normal that now is 8.40, is not a 'huge blow' after 6 episodes. The 'hate' posts: *overrated: the guy is just asking why have a higher score after just 1 or 2 episodes. I think that the best word must had been overhyped rather than overrated. *If you don't like slice of life you won't like this anime: the girl is defending the anime with arguments. *Violent Evergarden is 14 and a killing machine: more than hate is just that he doesn't know that 'teenage killer' is something common in the anime. *Is it good now?: he was in the hype bandwagon of the show and now he is disappointed. Also he is praising the animation. Is more a rant rather than bashing the show. Everybody there had to write or think a rant about some anime. The others post are not 'hate'. Also 'haters are more vocal than the lovers' is not true with this: 'Best ship?', 'Violet Evergarden is most beautiful anime girl !!!' (she is!) 'Is Violet Evergarden a robot?' 'Violet Evergarden seems similar to Letter Bee' 'Would this show be better if it was about her during the war?'. See ya. |
NurguburuFeb 17, 2018 7:31 AM
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
normaneko said: Hey man, I was talking to the other guy that quoted me. I don't have any particular attachment to the show and it's funny how you're assuming how I feel this time, cut it out. I don't really believe in the idea of judging a show if you haven't completed it yet along 1/4 of it because of their opinions lacking. EGOIST said: Don't get me wrong, As far as what I've read from his posts he only complained about the shows art and animation not being fitting for the show. Can you please cite a point he said mentioning anything about the story? Because he hasn't Let me give you a bigger picture regarding the 'hate' https://myanimelist.net/anime/33352/Violet_Evergarden/forum?topic=other I don't know if you've noticed but before the anime aired, it's mean score was around 8.70 but now it's 8.40. It's a pretty huge blow for an anime that was surrounded a lot of hype before it started. I can see this show falling on the low 8's if it continued at this pace(which most people do not like). The haters are more vocal than the lovers as far as this site goes (episode discussions and to random comments). I'm gonna say this again but please reread what OP has posted and tell to me what exactly has he/she said regarding the storyline. Because I see none. Don't give me that bullshit. Valid Points are there for debate which sparks up discussion which this thread doesn't really have. What you mentioned are yes, example of valid points that are entitled to subjectivity but no one is really interested in what you have to say if you leave them at that. What makes it boring? slow? etc. Stopping there is just too vague and it feels more like you don't have a good feel for the show. Buzzwords aren't enough if you're going to try to start a discussion. Valid(Acceptable) point does not equate to good points just so you won't confuse them. Valid points are points that can be seen in the show, it can be good or bad (entitled to subjectivity). I don't really give a fuck if you give it a 1/10 or a 10/10. You just didn't like it when people insult something you like, well, that's normal I guess. Sorry if I offend you. Also, I think you and some other missing my point. I only watch the first 2 episodes of this anime, and I didn't read the novel, as I stated earlier. So how can I give an "accurate" or "detailed" opinion about this show? I just give a vague (again, sorry about that) opinion about the show so that people can somehow imagine what kind of anime I can enjoy, and was wondering should I give it another try or not? If so, why? You probably shouldn't give it another try, as I said before the show retained it's quality throughout those that have been released so far and since you disliked the first 2 episodes, I don't really see you liking the rest of the show unless a miracle happens which probably won't. @Burguburu, check the episode discussions as well. Those are filled with it. (ep.2 - onwards) |
| I don't think anyone other than a hardcore kyoani fan could enjoy this. If you are, then you should keep watching. |
Toshiya_Feb 17, 2018 12:57 PM
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Eanraig said: Burguburu said: No. Episode 6 six have the episodic format as episode 2. Stilll every episode is for a side character to 'felt' something for them (only episode 6 was canon, but it was rushed). Of course, the animation is still good. Episode 5 is apparently canon as well https://mantan-web.jp/article/20180216dog00m200022000c.html I'll have to check that out. |
Major_GilbertFeb 17, 2018 10:07 AM
"Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
| The show is already good from the start. I personally would rate it around 7/10 based on the 6 episodes I've seen It is overrated and overhyped, but that does not mean it is bad. Mahoutsukai no Yome is even more overrated than this show |
normaneko said: thepath said: The show is already good from the start. I personally would rate it around 7/10 based on the 6 episodes I've seen It is overrated and overhyped, but that does not mean it is bad. Mahoutsukai no Yome is even more overrated than this show I rated Violet Evergarden 4/10, because I think this anime doesn't worth all those hype, especially from before this anime airs, and I regret hyping for it (stupid reason, I know). But if Violet has little to no hype, then yeah, I would also rate it around 7/10 I watched Mahotsukai, and I think it was interesting....on early episodes. But now it become relatively boring to watch. Dropping it on episode 15+ feels weird to me haha. Rating it a 4 just because it didn't live up to unrealistic hype? Ok... |
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| If you didn't like it first, why would you like it the second time? Shouldn't it be the other way around? You don't like it, then don't watch. For me the anime is the same, and I'm probably the only one who doesn't get bored by it but whatever. No, you're not going to like it if you didn't like the first episodes, so if you're asking if you should waste time watching Violet Evergarden, no, I don't think it would be worth it if it doesn't meet your tastes. |
| yes it became rather nice |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Why yes, it was good since the start. |
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normaneko said: Thank you for all those inputs everyone, I really appriciate it. After reading some of the posts here, maybe I shouldn't watch this anime anymore. I should just stop being salty and move on. Again, thanks everyone.. its the best you can do , most people dropped it in the 4-5 episodes !! i was so hyped for this show but in the end "Sora yori mo Tooi Basho" and "Darling in the FranXX" turned up to be underrated compared to this boring trash :D .... even Overlord with the lizard arc isn't that boring !! |
Zuerchtein-MarioFeb 18, 2018 7:28 PM
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| I've liked it the whole time, hype aside. So I guess I'm not a good example of someone to answer this. |
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| I've liked it the whole time and keep watching. But I can guess why some might have dropped, because the poster made it seem like it was this amazing woman's journey in a garden or something. We got the animation we wanted, but the story is about a lady who has to learn to love again while being a clerk at an office. It's pretty hilariously boring, the plot so far. Everything also makes me uneasy because I feel like for some reason maybe Netflix had more impact on this show, like they determined the direction of the show. Maybe that is or isn't true, but I feel a sliver or pang of Western influence and conventionality. Things sometimes feel like they're a Western interpretation of what an anime is supposed to be, and that's not why I like anime. I like the surprise, I like the Japanese obsession with emotion, with the balance of things in a room. The Japanese have this thick feeling for the tenor of a situation, and how it should or shouldn't go. Western plot is always, A must lead to B, even though it is boring and it makes little sense for character development. So much Western content makes me feel like I'm watching an episode of Friends. Anime throws me for a loop because it's a different culture and I never know where they're coming from. Violet Evergarden scares me because it makes me realize that maybe Netflix's influence is going to determine the direction of shows. I don't want that, Netflix should help pay for JAPANESE anime/content and step back and let the masters work. There is no such thing as American anime. Simulcast/simuldub and let the thing be. Even if I'm wrong about this feeling, which I really hope I am, perhaps it's just the big NETFLIX logo at the beginning of every episode that is making me uneasy. I'm also watching the sub, too. Haven't thought of the dub. I like Violet, just some things in the plot so far have felt too conventional, like Iris's trip to her hometown. Just felt a bit predictable, I guess. Cliched. |
| It's always good what are you talking about |
| You dropped it already,that's fine,but apparently the pretty colors don't let you rest. To comfort your soul, I'm telling you that it's pretty much the same as at the beginning,if you didn't like it there,then you also won't like it now. Watch something you're actually interested in. /thread |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| It's probably a 6/10 for me right now, so it isn't bad, but it's also isn't that great either. The people telling me how the first few episodes aren't canon have given me hope that it'll get even better though. |
| “Is it good now?” Why ask such a question? If you didn’t like the first few episodes, then don’t bother watching the rest. |
| Watching: 127,234 Completed: 11 On-Hold: 3,117 Dropped: 2,738 Plan to Watch: 121,023 Total: 254,123 when you see the picture you think " waw so good its gonna be a masterpiece i'm gonna give it a 10 until it ends so lets put it in our plan to watch and give it a 10 yay" and here we got 121023 people planing to watch and with the majority giving a 10 without even watching this boku no pico parody :D PS: 11 people completed (Kittens-kun too) |
Zuerchtein-MarioFeb 20, 2018 6:13 PM
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| Not really. Still the same tepid problem of no character or plot development for Violet (but they sure love developing side characters) |
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| It looks beautiful, and I don't think it's bad, but...how the hell did they decide on the pacing? It's really inconsistent and was especially jarring in the last episode. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
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