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Mar 23, 2010 6:45 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Mar 23, 2010 4:05 PM
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She finally took off her hat! xD
I loved the music on this episode, so beautiful.
Kobato x Fujimoto forever. -cries- ;__;
 
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Mar 23, 2010 4:59 PM
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So sad episode. ;___;

I loved it, when Fujimoto said "Ikuna!". *____*
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Mar 23, 2010 8:11 PM
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That was so sad, she got her wish but not quite :(


 
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Mar 23, 2010 8:30 PM
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sadly she cant change her wish ...


 
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Mar 23, 2010 8:39 PM
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Watching Kobato follow around Fujimoto in the first bit of the episode was rather tiresome, but I have to say, Kobato's farewell scene was really quite beautiful - animation, music, dialogue, everything. Kudos to whoever directed that scene. It was pretty heart-wrenching, particularly for a series that hasn't managed to do that yet despite all that's happened so far.
 
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Wow, that was great... and beautiful!


On the other hand...
Damn, that bunny, should so have been burnt to crisp! lol
 
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Mar 23, 2010 8:48 PM
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oh wow....first Kobato episode that was actually amazing
 
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Mar 23, 2010 9:01 PM
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ES (the sub group) said:
Oh Clamp, Why do you have to be so Clamp?

Cause tearjerker manga/anime sells? It has always worked for me.
 
Mar 23, 2010 9:17 PM
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5/5

I finally found out what was under that damn hat.
 
Mar 23, 2010 9:46 PM
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The first part was a bit boring, but the rest wasn't that bad.
Although I found it strange that Fujimoto's konpeito somehow completed everything
The bottle looked far from being full, but this is the ending, so I shouldn't complain.

I wonder how they'll get Kobato back in Fujimoto's world.
I'm sure Ioryogi and Fujimoto will have something planned for el grande finale.
 
Mar 23, 2010 9:49 PM
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Hmmmm, still some plot holes. I mean, why in the hell did Kobato get special treatment? Even with the contract it just don't add up. Shit is complicated and unfair up in Heaven.
 
Mar 24, 2010 12:02 AM
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This episode made me happy. I Saw what I wanted to see...and now I'm ready for the finale.
 
Mar 24, 2010 1:33 AM
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I cried TT^TT

5/5 <333
 
Mar 24, 2010 2:05 AM
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This was so sad .___. i cried too~
can't believe Kobato was just a wandering soul. I loved that crown on her head.
And it's so weird that such a cute bunny didn't even care about anything but the contract. I guess what's decided is decided, no matter what changes occur in the meantime. T__T And i loved Ioriogy's reactions T_T

I just love Kobato. T__T *tearing*
 
Mar 24, 2010 2:51 AM
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that was a nice ep i liked it ...I'm just happy she will be reborn again
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Mar 24, 2010 3:03 AM
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Now I want to know where she'll be reborn.

You know what I thought before starting this episode?

''It'd be so cheesy if Kobato suddenly heals someone's heart and a bigass konpeito fills the bottle.''
And that actually happened. o___o

5/5
 
Mar 24, 2010 3:12 AM
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*pouting*
 
Mar 24, 2010 5:12 AM
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T_T I cried.

We finally know what's under the hat...
The cute bunny is quite cruel. Oh well, Fujibato here is WIN. <333
 
Mar 24, 2010 5:21 AM
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I still want to know what was her wish, and what Iiorogi and bunch did to get punished by god, and more about why Iiorogi contracted with Kobato.
 
Mar 24, 2010 5:23 AM
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Didn't the contract say that she couldn't fall in love with anyone's heart she healed? And wasn't she in love with Fujimoto..? xD Then she healed his heart, so it should't have counted, right?
 
Mar 24, 2010 6:07 AM
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I definitely did not expect that to happen, and perhaps it was a bit too sudden..
I'm really looking forward to the finale now.
(And after that.. the manga in July!)

Destinyisours said:
Didn't the contract say that she couldn't fall in love with anyone's heart she healed? And wasn't she in love with Fujimoto..? xD Then she healed his heart, so it should't have counted, right?

That was indeed the premise as a I remember. But perhaps they let this aspect out in the anime? (I don't really remember them literally stating it in the show) ..Ór.. since their love seems mutual, that could have 'undone' the 'contract'.
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Mar 24, 2010 7:52 AM
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Such an amazing episode! 5/5
 
Mar 24, 2010 8:04 AM
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Good episode. Finaly Kobato show what does she have under her hat... O.o Another episode and its over.

Waiting for fansub
 
Mar 24, 2010 8:36 AM
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Such a beautiful episode. CLAMP... you get me every time.


 
Mar 24, 2010 8:41 AM
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I really b'awwwed on the farewell moment ;_;

Everything was so perfectly animated. The music, art, theme and etc.
It's good that this anime had picked up till it's last episodes.
At first I was like, (╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Σ(゚∀´(┗┐ヽ(・∀・ )ノ <--- Then I was like
In the end, I was \(▽ ̄\( ̄▽ ̄)/ ̄▽)/ヤッタァー!!
 
Mar 24, 2010 8:54 AM
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Well, it wasnt a halo. The hat reveal was more of a "huh..." moment than anything surprising. I think they could have done it better by actually explaining what happened in the past. Hope there's some of that in the last episode...
 
Mar 24, 2010 10:17 AM
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Incredible Anime...My tears juz drip out....SCREW THAT BUNNY
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Jeff1244 said:
Incredible Anime...My tears juz drip out....SCREW THAT BUNNY


don't hate the bunny, shes just a grunt. you should tank her for giving kobato a chance to say goodbye.

i have to say tears rolled down with that one.
 
Mar 24, 2010 11:25 AM
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the most annoying thing about this anime is that bunny ....god .....she / he laughs all the time even in the saddest moments ...stop laughing already
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Mar 24, 2010 12:46 PM
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zomg its was so emotional ;___; between Kobato x Fujimoto


 
Mar 24, 2010 2:06 PM
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desolato said:
I definitely did not expect that to happen, and perhaps it was a bit too sudden..
I'm really looking forward to the finale now.
(And after that.. the manga in July!)

Destinyisours said:
Didn't the contract say that she couldn't fall in love with anyone's heart she healed? And wasn't she in love with Fujimoto..? xD Then she healed his heart, so it should't have counted, right?

That was indeed the premise as a I remember. But perhaps they let this aspect out in the anime? (I don't really remember them literally stating it in the show) ..Ór.. since their love seems mutual, that could have 'undone' the 'contract'.


Cleverly put, or maybe it'll make it so she's reborn in the same world, hence her wish not oming true?
 
Mar 24, 2010 3:14 PM
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Nice episode! I liked it a lot. When the glass thingy by Kobato shattered because of Fujimoto, I thought for one moment there was going to be a cliche happily ever after moment coming up... but it didn't, thankfully. I am most definitely looking forward to the last episode.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
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Destinyisours said:
desolato said:
I definitely did not expect that to happen, and perhaps it was a bit too sudden..
I'm really looking forward to the finale now.
(And after that.. the manga in July!)

Destinyisours said:
Didn't the contract say that she couldn't fall in love with anyone's heart she healed? And wasn't she in love with Fujimoto..? xD Then she healed his heart, so it should't have counted, right?

That was indeed the premise as a I remember. But perhaps they let this aspect out in the anime? (I don't really remember them literally stating it in the show) ..Ór.. since their love seems mutual, that could have 'undone' the 'contract'.


Cleverly put, or maybe it'll make it so she's reborn in the same world, hence her wish not oming true?


maybe it counted because in fact she was in love with him. enough to fill the bottle. also that wasn't really the point whether she loved him or not. the act of falling in love might cause her to deviate from her mission or whatever. her [wish] changed but her contract did not. meaning that falling in love was merely a way to keep contracted people in line.
 
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One of the better episodes. I cried ;_______________;
But, gosh, I was surprised when she took off her hat and there was a crown. But I thought she was a dead person, or some kind of dove.

I predict that Kobato will be reborn to the world, but won't remember anything?
Actually, that would by so sad ;o;

I was pretty close to smashing the screen in when the stupid bunny came floating down again. It's SO ANNOYING.
 
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Destinyisours said:
Didn't the contract say that she couldn't fall in love with anyone's heart she healed? And wasn't she in love with Fujimoto..? xD Then she healed his heart, so it should't have counted, right?

I *still* don't know who started that rumour. It was later posted in Wikipedia and everyone gave it for granted, but I've watched the whole anime, read all manga chapters available and even watched Clamp in Wonderland 2 for completion's sake, and there was NO MENTION OF SUCH RESTRICTION. So, there xD

hihisakura said:
But, gosh, I was surprised when she took off her hat and there was a crown. But I thought she was a dead person...

But she was indeed a dead person. O_O
Wandering soul given temporary substance may be a better description though.

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I still want to know what was her wish, and what Iiorogi and bunch did to get punished by god, and more about why Iiorogi contracted with Kobato.

Afraid we'll have to wait for the next manga chapters for the answers. Some juicy info has already leaked from the latest one.
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Fffffffffffffffffiiiiireeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!11
 
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Kojiro_S said:
Destinyisours said:
Didn't the contract say that she couldn't fall in love with anyone's heart she healed? And wasn't she in love with Fujimoto..? xD Then she healed his heart, so it should't have counted, right?

I *still* don't know who started that rumour. It was later posted in Wikipedia and everyone gave it for granted, but I've watched the whole anime, read all manga chapters available and even watched Clamp in Wonderland 2 for completion's sake, and there was NO MENTION OF SUCH RESTRICTION. So, there xD

But Thats's actually where I got it from. Well, not Wiki, but MAL xD Thats what it said.. Oh, well it looks like they changed it, "However, she must not fall in love with a particular boy she works with and whose heart she must heal." When i first looked the anime up it said, "However, she cannot fallin love with people whose hearts she cures, or her wish cannot be granted." Something like that, anyways. So it's not true? o.o That would clear a few things up xD
 
Mar 24, 2010 5:34 PM
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I can't say for sure it's true or false. But I assure there's no mention of that restriction anywhere in the story so far. I'm not the only one that has doublechecked for that info. Many guys at Mangafox are stumped as well.

Fffffffffffffffffiiiiireeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!11
 
Mar 24, 2010 6:31 PM
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Kojiro_S said:
I can't say for sure it's true or false. But I assure there's no mention of that restriction anywhere in the story so far. I'm not the only one that has doublechecked for that info. Many guys at Mangafox are stumped as well.


Yeah :/
 
Mar 24, 2010 6:35 PM
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Kobato was actually dead all along..?



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Mar 24, 2010 8:50 PM
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yea, kobato was dead all along, but i thought that that was kind of assumed...
i loved the way they used the music in this episode, and it broke my heart the way kobato left...
 
Mar 24, 2010 11:26 PM
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*still cries 20 minutes after* Man this episode was so emotional~ ..and so amazing!
Fujimoto x Kobato Forever <3
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Mar 25, 2010 1:05 AM
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This is becoming frighteningly familiar to a load of bull that someone posted on 4chan.

I think i might have just been spoiled.
 
Mar 25, 2010 8:18 AM
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Guess my guess was wrong, I thought she was an angel or smth.

But really did anyone notice the similarity of this episode with Tsubasa Chronicle, like Fujimoto ad Kobato's hands were like touchig each other through the wall. Exactly like Tsubasa Ep 1.

And the time she turns to sakura petals and disappear, look like Tsubasa Shunraiki to me!
I sream like crazy when I saw that!!! XD
 
Mar 25, 2010 3:13 PM
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Ah, I knew she was dead! Even though I expected that, it was still an amazing episode! T^T Kobato x Fujimoto forever!!! <33
 
Mar 25, 2010 7:49 PM
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datsunvic said:
ES (the sub group) said:
Oh Clamp, Why do you have to be so Clamp?

Cause tearjerker manga/anime sells? It has always worked for me.
yeah it does..
always the same formula...and it always works..
 
Mar 26, 2010 3:11 PM
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OMG...SO INTENSE*tears in her eyes*
 
Mar 26, 2010 4:04 PM
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I didn't expect her to be dead... That made me tear up, especially when she had to leave.
 
Mar 26, 2010 5:41 PM
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Guess my guess was wrong, I thought she was an angel or smth.

But really did anyone notice the similarity of this episode with Tsubasa Chronicle, like Fujimoto ad Kobato's hands were like touchig each other through the wall. Exactly like Tsubasa Ep 1.

And the time she turns to sakura petals and disappear, look like Tsubasa Shunraiki to me!
I sream like crazy when I saw that!!! XD


Yes! I noticed that and was like "Whoah, Dejavu..."
 
Mar 26, 2010 10:52 PM
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GOD DAMN USHAGI! DON'T DO THIS CRAP TO ME!!!!!

I still think that bunny is a complete bitch. -__-


Oh well, I guess episode 24 will concentrate on Fujimoto and how he deals with the loss. I didn't expect it to be so sad.
 
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