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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Kouka and her pokerface..I wonder what her endgame is. She's almost treating this operation like a game. Still, I have to admit that her fighting abilities are impressive. She is practically carrying this operation. On the other hand, that Snowdrop character brings a bit of trouble. I'm actually surprised how Arato is dealing with all of this since it's probably not something he's used to. |
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| Kengo really hates hIEs. He's lucky Lacia and Arato came to save him. The invisibility came in handy. Snowdrop sure did cause a lot more trouble. Those are some dangerous flowers. |
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| So kouka can kick ass Snowdrop can kick ass seems like it's not going to be easy for Lacia and Arato to beat them. I got bored in the first half but the second half was enjoyable. 3.5/5 better than last week, nothing special though. |
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| Last part pre ending was where it got interesting,aside from that it was an okayish episode. Preview for next episode was messed up. |
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| Again everything seems so pointless in this show, I can barely keep paying attention to the boring and pointless dialogues lol. At least Kouka killing shit is still fun I guess, Snowdrop is cute too. Lets see how much longer I can keep watching this lul, maybe later on we get to see new hIEs that are more interesting, like that blonde one in the end. |
Joe88 said: so is next week a recap or something? Yes, some people say it's because the Olympics but other shows aren't doing this. Might be signs that they're struggling to keep up with the animation? They also have another recap episode planned somewhere down the line too. |
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| Olga must be worried sick about her brother. Kouka is doing a pretty good job of leading them on with her actions and speeches. If its not for the mission i think walking around while invisible will be nice. The HIE chairmen sure posted some interesting questions and responses. The appearance of flower girl was a surprise though. Though its nice that they were able to save Kengo its too bad that they weren't able to stop Kouka though. The little intro about the various HIE's was nice though. You have to wonder what Kouka's endgame will be though. |
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| The way of "eating" of the green robot loli sure was... interesting. |
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| So I guess that's the end to the first arc of the story. Interesting how things heated up. Next week is probably a recap. Still convinced this is the best of the three shows I originally was watching on Fridays (The other two being Grancrest Senki and Toji no Miko) |
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| what the fuck did i just watch. people were killed, bots destroyed, building smashed, and after all of that they just chill out like "i'm all out, i'm going home" kengo released home even though he was wearing insurgent form, wut? ok, they killed the /pol/ droid, but the resolution was so bad also lacia's silence means she's not a tool? :thinking: |
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| This is seemingly an interesting concept just executed rather poorly. |
| Why am I not surprised that Arato was checking out the women while being invisible. Haven't seen the green haired hIE for a little while, she really did cause a lot of destruction there. Ok so her name is snowflake, she absorbed those security guards in quite an unusual way. Thank goodness Kengo didn't accept Kouka, great save there by Arato. Kouka succeeded in her mission though, and there was another strong looking hIE shown for a moment. |
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| Why does Kouka needs an owner? Or was it just playing by her? The second part of the episode was pretty good. Best moment was the way of eating other hIEs. What a waste though! The loli hIE should have eaten the politician hIE. I thought it was the point of an operation. Like getting stronger when eating those hIEs. I also lost the point. Who is fighting who. Really bad writing and presentation. They said that flowers let Snowflake control the automatic thing, but those hIE guards were still firing at Kouka? So they are fighting? Okay not bad, but then they were cooperating. WTF! Lacia standing there not giving a fuck was also fun. Are they enemies? Or just likes to troll. Three of them met and nothing happened. Good ambient music in the ending. mat619 said: What The fuck?. this episode is so retarted Why the hell kengo is able to getting away free? he clearly involved in terrorism activity on his own accord. he sould be thrown in jail or at least arrested for a week Good question. |
| Most interesting episode. Not really sure why snowdrop showed up; she certainly wasn't Kouka's ally. Btw, was Snowdrop consuming those hIE? It was pretty weird, and shes even able to fuse them together somehow. Kengo really hates the hIE's though. I wonder how his relationship with Arato will pan out. I doubt he'll become too antagonistic, but who knows. |
| Well, gotta give this show credit for improving just about every week so far. This is the first time I actually didn't laugh at it, so hey! However, that's not to say it was devoid of stupidity. Somehow I knew everyone would walk away from this one without any immediate consequences, which given the setting just doesn't suspend my disbelief. You'd think with all these advanced AI and a dedicated security force they'd have face IDs for every member of the Antibodies now. I do appreciate when this show focuses in on its philosophical concepts, though. Recycled animations aside, the discussion about hIE in governmental roles was almost thought provoking. |
| Decent Episode which means a lot for this anime. Each of the previous episodes made me rate it 1 point lower so I'm glad it stuck at 5 from last time. Also, that end preview was... wierd. And are we getting a recap episode next? |
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| I really don't see where this story is leading to... Why does kouka grunt and breathe like she's outta breath, shes a bloody robot/hie or something! Still kinda dead, I don't ever see myself getting into it |
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| Well, this show is steadily improving, and this episode was no exception, with the political discussion between Mikoto and the politicians being a particular highlight. The action side of things wasn't as good, but it served its purpose well enough at least. Only thing that confused me was why Kouka was constantly shooting Snowdrop's petal drone things, as they seemed to be at least somewhat working together given that Snowdrop caused the helicopter crash, something which actively helped Kouka's plan out. A decent end to the first arc, and it should be interesting to see how things progress from here. |
| It was a pretty good episode imo. Arato was the secret MVP with the invisible peeping lmao, he knows his priorities well. So Snowdrop just dropped in for the lulz apparently. Her way of "eating" was nice nightmare fuel. Beware of the killer robot loli. Ironically the political talk was more interesting than the whole action. Mikoto's answer was intreseting, she would do dumb shit like wars if the humans wanted it lol. Too bad she got killed in the end. I still can't get a reading on Kouka but maybe I should give up and accept that she is also doing shit for the lulz. It would have been a nice twist if Kengo made her his hIE in a fit of rage during the rescue but it didn't happen. He went back being best buds with Arato again. Not happy about the recap next week, like seriously, this is supposed to be 24 eps and they are pulling this already at ep 6? I could somewhat live with it if it was around ep 12-13 but this screams that something went horribly wrong already with the production. |
| well with two much fighting going on..they still manage to tke the nominee out |
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| hey guys.. arato is struggling.. kouka is heavy.. they might both fall... and die.. so do we give a shit about them? probably not.. oh look! there are these weak hIE guards.. who are shooting at God no what.. u know what? lets kill them before saving our previous "owners" or "owners-to-be"... . after the hero saved the day... by his uncinvicing..and ridicolous speech.. lets all go home.. and do not care about the people that actually died.. and how the hell did they even left the building? it was surrounded by police that didn't do shit.. oh yeah.. that "invisibility".. and wtf guy? how are u guys so calm? there are fking terrorists outside with guns! . this anime suck ass... there are so many plot holes.. the pacing is done poorly.. the story could have been so much better but they only cared about the art and OP/ED.. . if the last episode was 3/10 then this ep would be 4/10.. cuz it was a little bit enjoyable..(justalittlebit).. |
CrazyGoodDude said: First recap is due to the olympics and the second recap is the "mandatory recap" that every 24 episodes shows have. That splits the series in half to conclude the 1st cour, the same happened with Garo Vanishing Line.Joe88 said: so is next week a recap or something? Yes, some people say it's because the Olympics but other shows aren't doing this. Might be signs that they're struggling to keep up with the animation? They also have another recap episode planned somewhere down the line too. |
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| Well Snowdrop just wanted a snack and all of those guards just looked kinda tasty Interesting social commentary on the automated political systems, that sort of stuff is what I was mainly looking for out of this show Decent end to the first arc. Recap episode isn't overly surprising, given that the material would be hard-pressed to fill out 24 eps, 21-22 would make more sense. To be fair, Monogatari S2 had 3 summary episodes with the first one also being positioned at ep 6. Looking forward to Methode's intro. From the OP it looks like she'll be involved with Ryo similar to Kouka and Kengo. |
| Naive he may be, but Arato's a serious bro. Not everyone would have the guts to face flying bullets to help out a friend. It's entirely plausible that Kengo would be able to get away btw. Snowdrop's petals had already shutdown the surveillance systems, he was wearing a mask the entire time before that, and he would be leaving with Arato/Lacia, so they could very easily have gone invisible on the way out. ^^ Not happy about the recap next week, (I'm REALLY looking forward to learning more about this world and the backstories for everyone,) but totally understand why it's needed. I mean, just look at most of the discussion so far here on MAL. Everyone whining about tl;dr infodumps then whining about not understanding what's going on. -_-;; Any story with an extensive and detailed worldview, particularly sci-fi,(which is shorthand for "science fiction" for those who've forgotten,) is going to have a rather information heavy start if they are not extensively relying on established tropes as storytelling shortcuts. A planned recap at this point just says that the producers know that some viewers may be struggling to keep up and sets the stage for something new once the story moves past what was already established. Even with all of the world building going on, and most explanations not yet said, I think that it's likely that we will be seeing some traditional tropes, and I'm just hoping the execution won't be done in a cliche manner. Right now, it would be rather surprising for me if they don't go the "Lacia was sent to Arato by his father to stop something bad from happening" route. For those who missed it, it's been said that his father is one of the primary developers for hIEs, including the first AI system and Mikoto. So, Arato is the Son of a Great Man, aka Destined by Birth. His buddy Ryou is the son of the owner of MemeFrame, so he fits that description too. We have no idea so far as to what caused Kengo's deep seated hatred of hIEs, but I'm betting he lost a family member, possibly an hIE researcher related to Arato or Ryou's father, in an hIE related incident. Can't be sure yet, but there is probably a deeper reason why someone that close to Arato was chosen by Kouka other than he coincidentally was a member of the Antibody Network. For similar reasons, I'm predicting that Methode (the blond hIE they just showed) will contract with Ryou. There's a lot of potential in this series to give viewers a lot to think about. I'm hoping it will keep us thinking after this point rather than going the much easier route of downgrading the complexity of the story to make it more accessible to the not-wanting-to-think masses. Please, everyone stop expecting for every anime to mindless, ecchi-filled action series' that you'll enjoy after turning off your brain. This is "hard sci-fi" so far. It should not be compared to stories like Plastic Memories, or any of the myriad futuristic battle-harems, but maybe with Ghost in the Shell or Psycho Pass. It's intended to make the viewer think, so if you don't like thinking, then it's not going to be for you. |
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Gradeus said: Well Snowdrop just wanted a snack and all of those guards just looked kinda tasty Interesting social commentary on the automated political systems, that sort of stuff is what I was mainly looking for out of this show Decent end to the first arc. Recap episode isn't overly surprising, given that the material would be hard-pressed to fill out 24 eps, 21-22 would make more sense. To be fair, Monogatari S2 had 3 summary episodes with the first one also being positioned at ep 6. Looking forward to Methode's intro. From the OP it looks like she'll be involved with Ryo similar to Kouka and Kengo. OMG I love you. <3 Thank you for the science lesson. :D That is actually awesome. Please do continue enlightening the rest of us if there are more "sci-fi thats real" things that pop up in future episodes. |
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Gradeus said: Well Snowdrop just wanted a snack and all of those guards just looked kinda tasty Interesting social commentary on the automated political systems, that sort of stuff is what I was mainly looking for out of this show Decent end to the first arc. Recap episode isn't overly surprising, given that the material would be hard-pressed to fill out 24 eps, 21-22 would make more sense. To be fair, Monogatari S2 had 3 summary episodes with the first one also being positioned at ep 6. Looking forward to Methode's intro. From the OP it looks like she'll be involved with Ryo similar to Kouka and Kengo. Woah, that's pretty cool. |
deadman80 said: Gradeus said: stuff OMG I love you. <3 Thank you for the science lesson. :D That is actually awesome. Please do continue enlightening the rest of us if there are more "sci-fi thats real" things that pop up in future episodes. Will do haha About your other post, I'm also down for the hard sci-fi. I always love a show that makes me ponder over things a bit, even if others are quick to dismiss intriguing philosophical elements due to production-side events. Other shows like Heaven's Memo Pad that are more realistic also touch on (much darker) societal topics. Other times the show will just make me think a lot (Blast of Tempest, Monogatari, Death Note). Beatless isn't as complicated but I can definitely enjoy its social commentary wrapped up in a show like this. As the plot through the extent of the manga has finished up, I'm looking forward to some new surprises, especially involving Saturnus and Methode, especially with the latter's association with "expanding humanity", gives me some zaShunina vibes from Kado (and voiced by Sora Amamiya?! yooo) |
| Not a bad episode. I'm sure they'll reveal Kengou's reasons later (it will probably be dumb ones). I think more importantly we'll see where this goes. Seems like each of the 5 was created for a specific reason and maybe they didn't just "escape" but may have been purposefully released. |
| Kengo is still stupid. Of course Kouka lets you idiots fight there. They actually managed to save him. I wouldn't mind if he died in this episode. I wonder how he will deal with the fact that Lacia saved him. Snowdrop was causing trouble again. How she fused the hIE guards was quite messed up. |
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| Good episode. The series started cheesy, but this is getting serious. It looks like we have to take attention at its science class. Kouka is shining, Lacia is underperforming. And our Arato is really naughty. |
| okay...that was senseless, so Snowdrop joined the chaos just to mess-up things!? at least Methode already had an appearance! 3/5. |
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| Up to now I'd say I like the anime. It has an interesting premise but the execution is surely lacking. It feels weak and it's getting harder to get over it. |
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| Kouka is the best, love her maniacal and destructive attitude. <3 Her killing that diplomatic hIE though... :( Snowdrop was cute and playful, and slurping those hIE guards like soup was bizarre. Her expression when mocking Kouka after she got "rejected" by Kengo, combined with Kouka's "Tch" was funny. Kengo should just accept Kouka already!! Lacia... was elegant, but VERY underwhelming, she just stood there deflecting bullets with her big coffin weapon thing (why didn't she unleash that big laser blast from E01??) Wonder which red box hIE we will see next...? |
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| This episode made me think that Kengo was really over the top. |
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| This probably should have happened by episode3... instead of dragging it out. Too bad most of the animation isn't this sharp.  So green girl just wanted to eat some robots?... What's with that preview... recap next already? lol |
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| I hate that hIE Mikoto was executed. She was my favorite character. |
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| Waste of time, nothing else. |
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| Kouka and her pokerface, lol... |
| What was that firefight at the end about? I thought the flower android was on Kouka's side, but she isn't? Lacia just did nothing she was on their side as well, even though she clearly isn't. Actually, she didn't do or say a single thing, she just stood there like a background character. Kengo is a complete asshole and I felt nothing for him during any of his scenes in this. Hope he grows a brain at some point. Mikoto could've been an interesting character for more nuanced discussion, but she's unceremoniously killed off just after being introduced. |
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