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Feb 4, 2018 5:42 AM

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Neutral narration and characters. Absence of moral and emotionally driven conclusions.





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Modified by Eell, Mar 25, 7:06 AM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Feb 5, 2018 5:49 AM

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Violet evergarden main girl is kinda like that.
 
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Feb 5, 2018 6:53 AM

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symbiotic said:
Violet evergarden main girl is kinda like that.


Stories, not only characters.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Feb 9, 2018 9:21 AM
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Specific af.

Kiznaiver? It deals with emotions and shit.

Ef? Amnesia, I guess?

That show by a1 pictures... uh https://myanimelist.net/anime/13125/Shinsekai_yori




 
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Fallen-One said:
Specific af.

Kiznaiver? It deals with emotions and shit.

Ef? Amnesia, I guess?

That show by a1 pictures... uh https://myanimelist.net/anime/13125/Shinsekai_yori





You're suggesting the opposite.
As I mentioned, a show that doesn't deal with emotions, which cuts out school, sexually frustrated teenagers and colorful hairs.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Well, I'm not sure if these are exactly what you're looking for but I'll give a try:


Overlord: Main guy gets stuck in a game as a undead character. He acts very rationally and his NPC servants will do exactly what he says. If he gets too emotional his mind is forced to calm down due to his character settings. The whole show is about him being OP

Berserk: (watch original Kenpuu Denki Berserk (1997) or even movies, never watch Berserk 2016 or 2017 unless you wanna kill your eyes) It's mostly about mercenaries. I can't really say much because it will spoil things but the whole show is full of people who would to anything for their own benefit without much of thought. If you try original and want to watch chronologically, start with 2nd episode
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Hillerih said:
Well, I'm not sure if these are exactly what you're looking for but I'll give a try:


Overlord: Main guy gets stuck in a game as a undead character. He acts very rationally and his NPC servants will do exactly what he says. If he gets too emotional his mind is forced to calm down due to his character settings. The whole show is about him being OP

Berserk: (watch original Kenpuu Denki Berserk (1997) or even movies, never watch Berserk 2016 or 2017 unless you wanna kill your eyes) It's mostly about mercenaries. I can't really say much because it will spoil things but the whole show is full of people who would to anything for their own benefit without much of thought. If you try original and want to watch chronologically, start with 2nd episode


About the first one. It's only the character, not the story.

Berserk, I've read the manga and watched the series. The cast is mostly filled with naive and irrational characters.

Thanks by the way.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Sorry bud, you were born in the wrong part of the universe. Earth is inhabited by humans.
Maybe "Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e"
Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you.
 
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BlameSaiki said:
What's an example of what you're looking for? Because this is super specific.


Modified by Eell, Feb 9, 2018 12:37 PM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
Feb 10, 2018 11:30 AM

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Eell said:
Neutral narration and characters. Absence of moral and emotionally driven conclusions.


I have been watching this thread and to be fair I have no idea what you mean. We really have to find a way to better describe what you are looking for.There are eventually too many things you look fro the same time. On the top I think what you ask for is seemingly selfcontradictory.

When you ask for a neuetral narration does it mean it there is a clonflict (and a theme)? because you have to be neuetral to something unless there is no conflict or story, then we could flood this thread with slice of life recommendations.
So lets assume there is a neuetral narration to a conflict, the issue still remains that by intuitively looking for a character to attach people pick a side.

For example in Psychopass the show neuetrally depicts the position of the antagonist (though admitted it gives it less time) and also that of the Sibyl System but if you cant detach from the fact that the antagonist perform murders you will pick a side. IT is even worse in Psychopass 2 where majority of the watchers mess up theri expereience by picking a side against Sibyl even if the show neuetrally shows the position of all the 3 faction and describes a process of system changing in a way no other political anime ever had.

But ok lets assume the show gives equal focus on both sides and you are able to hold back and not to pick a side. Eg Akame ga Kill!
Then comes your second point: neuetral character. Which seems contradicting with neuetral narration.
There is a conflict and the character doesnt care? (NGE?)
OR does the character simply detach from the conflict and watch it from a distance. (maybe So Ra No Wo To? [didnt watch it yet just guessing from description])
OR trying to run away from it? (Trigun?)
Or characters just want to see and not judge (like Ashitaka from Mononoke Hime?) (photographer from Flag)

And the whole time I ask myself if the narration and the characters are neuetral what motivates me to watch at all? At least the story has to emotionally involve me at some point.
I was guessing around no idea if that helps. But if you help us to understand what you are looking for we may help you better.
 
Feb 10, 2018 11:43 AM

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XAnima13X said:
Eell said:
Neutral narration and characters. Absence of moral and emotionally driven conclusions.


I have been watching this thread and to be fair I have no idea what you mean. We really have to find a way to better describe what you are looking for.There are eventually too many things you look fro the same time. On the top I think what you ask for is seemingly selfcontradictory.

When you ask for a neuetral narration does it mean it there is a clonflict (and a theme)? because you have to be neuetral to something unless there is no conflict or story, then we could flood this thread with slice of life recommendations.
So lets assume there is a neuetral narration to a conflict, the issue still remains that by intuitively looking for a character to attach people pick a side.

For example in Psychopass the show neuetrally depicts the position of the antagonist (though admitted it gives it less time) and also that of the Sibyl System but if you cant detach from the fact that the antagonist perform murders you will pick a side. IT is even worse in Psychopass 2 where majority of the watchers mess up theri expereience by picking a side against Sibyl even if the show neuetrally shows the position of all the 3 faction and describes a process of system changing in a way no other political anime ever had.

But ok lets assume the show gives equal focus on both sides and you are able to hold back and not to pick a side. Eg Akame ga Kill!
Then comes your second point: neuetral character. Which seems contradicting with neuetral narration.
There is a conflict and the character doesnt care? (NGE?)
OR does the character simply detach from the conflict and watch it from a distance. (maybe So Ra No Wo To? [didnt watch it yet just guessing from description])
OR trying to run away from it? (Trigun?)
Or characters just want to see and not judge (like Ashitaka from Mononoke Hime?) (photographer from Flag)

And the whole time I ask myself if the narration and the characters are neuetral what motivates me to watch at all? At least the story has to emotionally involve me at some point.
I was guessing around no idea if that helps. But if you help us to understand what you are looking for we may help you better.


That's another case and a discussion that doesn't belong to this thread. Some stories are neither emotional nor aimed at emotional people; only a line/network of events calculated and visualized.

PS: Thanks for the suggestions. I've already tried them. None of them fall into this category.
Modified by Eell, Mar 25, 7:13 AM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
Feb 10, 2018 12:16 PM

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Uhh maaaaybe legend of the galactic heros? I haven't seen much of it yet but it's a story mostly about political conflict and strategy.

I mean art tends to be emotionally driven though. That's kind of the point. You might be better off reading a book on philosophy.
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simonephone said:
Uhh maaaaybe legend of the galactic heros? I haven't seen much of it yet but it's a story mostly about political conflict and strategy.

I mean art tends to be emotionally driven though. That's kind of the point. You might be better off reading a book on philosophy.


Seen that series.

What's art and what's not is an endless unnecessary discussion. I'm looking for a story in manga/anime format.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
Feb 10, 2018 2:07 PM

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Try oregairu. The story is all about it.
 
Feb 10, 2018 4:38 PM

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There's 1, but I doubt it's what you have in mind.
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DarkTyDe said:
There's 1, but I doubt it's what you have in mind.


If 001 is the 1 you're referring to, it's only a drawing practice.
Modified by Eell, Mar 8, 2018 2:52 AM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Eell said:
DarkTyDe said:
There's 1, but I doubt it's what you have in mind.


If 001 is the 1 you're referng to, it's only a drawing practice.


Yep, that's exactly what I was referring to.
Roses are red, violets are blue
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Grave of the fireflies.
Next to no dialogue. Visually more suggestive. Characters rely on rationality than morals to survive.

You are asking for the next to impossible. Even a rational action has morality and emotion in it, unless your asking that the narration or characters doesn't forcefully show it, but rather remain quiet which I think you want. If it is then, it is next to impossible. That kind of story telling is very rare even in the film industry, much more so in the anime industry. Hopefully the suggestion I give you is enough.

To further realize what you want: A medieval scene where a knight cuts down a whole family without torture. No moral implication or emotions is suggested. He neither laughs, cry, or show sadness. The knight enters their domain and eats the stored food of the family. The family's blood spills from cuts made by the knight's sword. The knight eating his hearty meal with blood stained hands. After eating, he leaves without a word. He just simply killed them for food.
(Is that the kind of anime you want?)

I honestly want to see a series like that. What's the anime that you uploaded btw?

 
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Grave of the fireflies.
Next to no dialogue. Visually more suggestive. Characters rely on rationality than morals to survive.

You are asking for the next to impossible. Even a rational action has morality and emotion in it, unless your asking that the narration or characters doesn't forcefully show it, but rather remain quiet which I think you want. If it is then, it is next to impossible. That kind of story telling is very rare even in the film industry, much more so in the anime industry. Hopefully the suggestion I give you is enough.

To further realize what you want: A medieval scene where a knight cuts down a whole family without torture. No moral implication or emotions is suggested. He neither laughs, cry, or show sadness. The knight enters their domain and eats the stored food of the family. The family's blood spills from cuts made by the knight's sword. The knight eating his hearty meal with blood stained hands. After eating, he leaves without a word. He just simply killed them for food.
(Is that the kind of anime you want?)

I honestly want to see a series like that. What's the anime that you uploaded btw?



Grave of the fireflies is a case of subtle dramatization.

Medieval stories tend to include philosophizing and circular reasoning based on belief systems.

And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
Feb 11, 2018 7:49 AM
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Eell said:
Alhdark said:
Grave of the fireflies.
Next to no dialogue. Visually more suggestive. Characters rely on rationality than morals to survive.

You are asking for the next to impossible. Even a rational action has morality and emotion in it, unless your asking that the narration or characters doesn't forcefully show it, but rather remain quiet which I think you want. If it is then, it is next to impossible. That kind of story telling is very rare even in the film industry, much more so in the anime industry. Hopefully the suggestion I give you is enough.

To further realize what you want: A medieval scene where a knight cuts down a whole family without torture. No moral implication or emotions is suggested. He neither laughs, cry, or show sadness. The knight enters their domain and eats the stored food of the family. The family's blood spills from cuts made by the knight's sword. The knight eating his hearty meal with blood stained hands. After eating, he leaves without a word. He just simply killed them for food.
(Is that the kind of anime you want?)

I honestly want to see a series like that. What's the anime that you uploaded btw?



Grave of the fireflies is a case of subtle dramatization.

Medieval stories tend to include philosophizing and circular reasoning based on belief systems.


Alright, I think I catch your drift. I think.

Try this: (Not exactly what you want. I think you may be able to appreciate it)
Texhnolyze
Serial Experiment

I highly doubt there is another one like Angel's Egg. Hmmm, even if there is a second, a third is definitely might not come out for a good time.
 
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Alhdark said:
Eell said:


Grave of the fireflies is a case of subtle dramatization.

Medieval stories tend to include philosophizing and circular reasoning based on belief systems.


Alright, I think I catch your drift. I think.

Try this: (Not exactly what you want. I think you may be able to appreciate it)
Texhnolyze
Serial Experiment

I highly doubt there is another one like Angel's Egg. Hmmm, even if there is a second, a third is definitely might not come out for a good time.


Watched both of them. Texhnoylze works for the first seven episodes, then loyalty and liveliness come in and it changes the tone of the story. Lain doesn't work from the start.

Thanks for the recommendation.
Modified by Eell, Aug 1, 12:19 AM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Kaze no Na wa Amnesia

I would say of all the things besides Angle's Egg, this could come closests to it. I'll think about it to see if there is anything else
 
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kimkotsu_ said:
Kaze no Na wa Amnesia

I would say of all the things besides Angle's Egg, this could come closests to it. I'll think about it to see if there is anything else


That would be appreciated.
I've seen KnNwA. The story is inconsistent.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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I haven't gotten around to watching Angel's Egg yet, but I doubt there's much out there like it.

I think Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust and Neo Tokyo are films you'd like based off what's on your list though. Maybe Aoi Bungaku too.
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CynicalMatt said:
I haven't gotten around to watching Angel's Egg yet, but I doubt there's much out there like it.

I think Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust and Neo Tokyo are films you'd like based off what's on your list though. Maybe Aoi Bungaku too.


Completed. In VHD and Neo Tokyo the imagery is either artistic or comical, which is not what I'm looking for. Aoi Bungaku doesn't work either, considering the irrationality of the character.
Modified by Eell, Feb 24, 2018 11:37 AM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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you mean something similar to kino's journey? maybe you can try humanity has declined
 
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Nurlela said:
you mean something similar to kino's journey? maybe you can try humanity has declined


Kino's responses are mostly nonrational.
Modified by Eell, Mar 2, 2018 4:54 AM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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i remember blame! being quite empty on the emotional side of things, the world is really alien, desolate and distant too
 
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Sad said:
i remember blame! being quite empty on the emotional side of things, the world is really alien, desolate and distant too


Only the first volume, now that I reread it.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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I'm not sure but Darker Than Black may be the show you want. Characters called "contractors" always make their decision rationally. They're beings that discarded their emotions.
 
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I'm not sure but Darker Than Black may be the show you want. Characters called "contractors" always make their decision rationally. They're beings that discarded their emotions.


It's not theme of the story.
Thanks for the suggestion.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Ajin, maybe?
It fits some of what you described, somewhat.

EDIT: nvm, you already watched it. Also, you rated Baccano, a show which is opposite of what you're looking for, 5/10 lul.
 
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DirtyFour34 said:
Ajin, maybe?
It fits some of what you described, somewhat.


The main theme is action.
Completed both seasons.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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lol good luck finding animes that fit your niche - niche (niche) ~niche~ of the niche criteria lololol
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"The universe has a beginning, but no end. —Infinite.
The stars too have beginnings, but their power accompanies their decline. —Finite.
It the wise who are the most foolish. History has taught us as much.
The fish of the sea know not the world of the land. Were they to possess wisdom, they too would experience decline.
It is more absurd that humans should surpass the speed of light than it is that fish should start living on the land.
This can be said to be God's final warning to those who resist."
 
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They don't fit this category due to moral/emotional ideals.
Modified by Eell, Mar 28, 2018 11:49 AM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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I honestly doubt there's an anime like what you described since shows are mostly emotionally driven. But there are anime that fit parts of that description, like some users said above. Anyways, if you haven't watched it yet, you can try Mousou Dairinin. The characters have a lack of morals in this anime.

Eell said:
DirtyFour34 said:
Ajin, maybe?
It fits some of what you described, somewhat.


The main theme is action.
Completed both seasons.


Action is a genre, not a theme.



“If you live for yourself you’ve only got yourself to blame. So I can’t really blame anyone else and I don’t have any regrets.”

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aliquae said:
I honestly doubt there's an anime like what you described since shows are mostly emotionally driven. But there are anime that fit parts of that description, like some users said above. Anyways, if you haven't watched it yet, you can try Mousou Dairinin. The characters have a lack of morals in this anime.

Eell said:


The main theme is action.
Completed both seasons.


Action is a genre, not a theme.


I've watched the series. It's about characters with mental conflicts. Thanks for the suggestion.

That's an unnecessary discussion on semantics.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
Apr 19, 2018 10:50 AM
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You might try Perfect Insider. It's not exactly what you're looking for but you might be able to get something out of it.
 
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Absence of morality as well as emotions..

Try Joker Game. Point of view is from a Japanese spy just before WW2

Compulsive Gambler is another one, though its less of a story and more of episodic situations.

"91 days" is also there, in which the MC is unaffected by pretty much everything. He just wants to destroy the mafia and plans it methodically without any qualms. Dont know if this fits exactly as to what you are looking for though
 
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So, if I'm getting you right you're looking for realism devoid of themes and morals. Like Angel's Egg, all of the characters' actions would be meaningless in the end, creating a very nihilistic-feeling universe. The characters in the story must be driven rationally, not emotionally. There are no ideals or value systems that the story enforces; rather, the story doesn't enforce any theme. From this lack of themes, the story's end feel is futility and nihilism (nihilism, by definition, is the rejection of meaning). Did I piece together your criteria correctly?
"Maybe, just maybe, there is no purpose in life... but if you linger a while longer in this world, you might discover something of value in it." - Lord Orochimaru
 
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FrozenLich said:
Absence of morality as well as emotions..

Try Joker Game. Point of view is from a Japanese spy just before WW2

Compulsive Gambler is another one, though its less of a story and more of episodic situations.

"91 days" is also there, in which the MC is unaffected by pretty much everything. He just wants to destroy the mafia and plans it methodically without any qualms. Dont know if this fits exactly as to what you are looking for though


They don't fall into this category.
Thanks for your suggestion.
Modified by Eell, Apr 19, 2018 12:56 PM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Eell said:
cam609lee said:
So, if I'm getting you right you're looking for realism devoid of themes and morals. Like Angel's Egg, all of the characters' actions would be meaningless in the end, creating a very nihilistic-feeling universe. The characters in the story must be driven rationally, not emotionally. There are no ideals or value systems that the story enforces; rather, the story doesn't enforce any theme. From this lack of themes, the story's end feel is futility and nihilism (nihilism, by definition, is the rejection of meaning). Did I piece together your criteria correctly?


It comes close to it.

I doubt there's an anime that fits exactly what you're describing. The thematic journey of a story is what makes it appealing. An open-ended series where the interpretation is decided by the viewer would more likely fit your criteria than any others. If you're willing to practice a little bit of personal interpretation (ignoring some elements while recognizing others disproportionately), Ergo Proxy is a possible option. Since it explores what constitutes identity, motivations, life, etc. and ultimately concludes that it's arbitrary and mostly genetic, one could say that although the characters' motivations seem emotion-driven on the surface level, they are actually genetic-driven in the end (which is rational and nihilistic). Ergo Proxy ends with a feeling of hope, but this hope is actually just a facade since they failed to escape the cruel fatalism of their reality. Also, all of the characters' actions are ultimately meaningless, since they actually contribute to their fate-governed reality rather than oppose it (even though it seems at first that that's exactly what they're doing). Of course, this is just my interpretation and I may be projecting my own perspective one the series, fabricating traits that are simply not there. What you're looking for is very hard to find. The fact that this thread has continued so long without producing acceptable results is proof of this.
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cam609lee said:
Eell said:


It comes close to it.

I doubt there's an anime that fits exactly what you're describing. The thematic journey of a story is what makes it appealing. An open-ended series where the interpretation is decided by the viewer would more likely fit your criteria than any others. If you're willing to practice a little bit of personal interpretation (ignoring some elements while recognizing others disproportionately), Ergo Proxy is a possible option. Since it explores what constitutes identity, motivations, life, etc. and ultimately concludes that it's arbitrary and mostly genetic, one could say that although the characters' motivations seem emotion-driven on the surface level, they are actually genetic-driven in the end (which is rational and nihilistic). Ergo Proxy ends with a feeling of hope, but this hope is actually just a facade since they failed to escape the cruel fatalism of their reality. Also, all of the characters' actions are ultimately meaningless, since they actually contribute to their fate-governed reality rather than oppose it (even though it seems at first that that's exactly what they're doing). Of course, this is just my interpretation and I may be projecting my own perspective one the series, fabricating traits that are simply not there. What you're looking for is very hard to find. The fact that this thread has continued so long without producing acceptable results is proof of this.


I'm not looking for an open ended series.
I've already watched the Ergo Proxy and it's an inconsistent story.
Thanks for your recommendation.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Uh, maybe Texhnolyze? Lainn?


 
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@Alhdark has suggested them in this thread.
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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Signature removed <----- that was totally BS. MAL mods nowadays...sigh.
 
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Well i just watched Angel's Egg, and the closest thing i can suggest would be Genius Party; episode 6 specifically. Genius Party is a collection of short animations done by different directors.
 
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Like-Miles-Davis said:
Well i just watched Angel's Egg, and the closest thing i can suggest would be Genius Party; episode 6 specifically. Genius Party is a collection of short animations done by different directors.


Completed.
Most of the episodes have an artistic or dramatic approach.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Modified by Eell, Apr 30, 2018 6:34 PM
And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
 
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genocidal organ

(didn't go through the walls of text above me so I'm not sure if what you've been looking for has been narrowed down)
 
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