 Hello and welcome to the third Critics & Connoisseurs Awards!   In this annual event, the members of Critics & Connoisseurs have discussed about and voted for what they consider the highlights of 2017. These are the results. This year we got there faster than the Crunchyroll Awards, so at this point we can only make the safe assumption that our awards are infinitely better than theirs. Discussion Thread ANIME OF THE YEAR BEST STORY BEST CAST BEST PROTAGONIST BEST ANTAGONIST BEST SUPPORTING CHARACTER BEST VISUALS BEST OP BEST ED BEST OST BEST DIRECTOR BEST PERFORMANCE BIGGEST PLEASANT SURPRISE BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT WORST ANIME OF THE YEAR |
LindleOct 12, 2018 5:00 PM
| nigga how tf did guruguru not even get runner up for pleasant surprise, who the fck also too many rakugo tbh |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
Scarlett_ryuken said: nigga how tf did guruguru not even get runner up for pleasant surprise, who the fck also too many rakugo tbh I'm more surprised by the general lack of Houseki. |
| Seems legit. |
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| Also, You'll Cowards Don't Even Watch Natsume. Easy pick for AOTY. Not surprised, but still disappointed in all of you. |
| lol, I didn't watch any of the winners. xD Maybe I should? Oh, also, I was just thinking... maybe for next year we could add "best moment/sequence" and "worst moment/sequence" categories? Where any moment or sequence of the year is eligible, even if it happened in a long-running series. Then again, I guess maybe it'd be difficult to get concise votes on such a thing... maybe it could be "best story arc" and "worst story arc" instead. What do you guys think? |
vigorousjammerJan 21, 2018 2:55 AM
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| even cbf watched more than you whew |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
| Despite how crushed I am by the results of AOTY and Antagonist, at least we got WAOTY and OP right... Altair best villain dammit, fuck You Bondrewd and every other contingency meant to make sure a villain only relevant in the manga doesn't win the anime awards, and fuck the people for chooseing those other contingencies and ESPECIALLY fuck the people who voted for an anime irrelevant villain in the first place, robbing Altair via a catalyst of an unfortunate series of events Also it feels wrong not giving Rakugo AOTY when t won both best story and best cast. |
CodeBlazeFateJan 23, 2018 5:01 PM
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abystoma2 said: Except it barely got even 1/3 if the awards (winner or runner-up). Still a lot but still.Shouwa Genroku Rakugo spam again like last year lol. |
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Lindle said: Also, You'll Cowards Don't Even Watch Natsume. Easy pick for AOTY. Not surprised, but still disappointed in all of you. Yeah shame on you guys for having a different taste! Really happy Guruguru won the award for best cast :D |
Effulgence said: Lindle said: Also, You'll Cowards Don't Even Watch Natsume. Easy pick for AOTY. Not surprised, but still disappointed in all of you. Yeah shame on you guys for having a different taste! No no no no no. I'm not shaming everyone for having different taste. I'm shaming everyone for not fucking watching it. Hence the pending Blue N. Don't you be coming into my house trying to sass me. I know what I'm about. |
Lindle said: No no no no no. I'm not shaming everyone for having different taste. I'm shaming everyone for not fucking watching it. Hence the pending Blue N. Don't you be coming into my house trying to sass me. I know what I'm about. It goes hand in hand tho, if mecha genre for example isen't your taste you will most likely not watch mecha anime. |
Effulgence said: That has approximately jack shit to do with it. This club loves to ride Mushishi dick and Natsume's is the next closest thing.Lindle said: No no no no no. I'm not shaming everyone for having different taste. I'm shaming everyone for not fucking watching it. Hence the pending Blue N. Don't you be coming into my house trying to sass me. I know what I'm about. It goes hand in hand tho, if mecha genre isen't your taste you will most likely not watch mecha anime. I don't care what your excuse is, I'm upset at you all for not watching it. |
Lindle said: Effulgence said: That has approximately jack shit to do with it. This club loves to ride Mushishi dick and Natsume's is the next closest thing.It goes hand in hand tho, if mecha genre isen't your taste you will most likely not watch mecha anime. I don't care what your excuse is, I'm upset at you all for not watching it. How does that have nothing to do with it? You are upset because not many people watched Natsume, reason is quite simple not everyone might be intrested. I understand that you want people to watch a show you liked tho. |
Scarlett_ryuken said: It only needed 1 more vote to tie with those 2 and also win, and some people didn't vote for it because they already expected it to be good. Makes sense for a remake not to be as surprising I guess. If anything I'm astonished by the lack of Houseki in this category, I thought it would take it easily.nigga how tf did guruguru not even get runner up for pleasant surprise, who the fck also too many rakugo tbh And yes, Rakugo got slightly pushed in some categories. It was definitely more relevant in 2016. vigorousjammer said: Yes, probably. lol, I didn't watch any of the winners. xD Maybe I should? Oh, also, I was just thinking... maybe for next year we could add "best moment/sequence" and "worst moment/sequence" categories? Where any moment or sequence of the year is eligible, even if it happened in a long-running series. Then again, I guess maybe it'd be difficult to get concise votes on such a thing... maybe it could be "best story arc" and "worst story arc" instead. What do you guys think? In regard to the suggestion, even with these broader categories there are some that still end very dispersed. That would make the first one very isolated, not only because of people not watching enough but because even the ones with fondness for the same title might differ when it comes to the favorite scene or episode (also, probably spoilers). The arcs one makes more sense but unless it is a very specific type of series the shift might be vague. |
UnowenJan 21, 2018 8:39 AM
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| You guys are overlooking the possibility of watching Natsume, liking it, and yet not being able to posit your vote for it in any category. Which happened to me and probably a few more. Also as a 6th season it equates to episodes 61-72 of the franchise, and having +10 Y/N votes for it in the You Decide is also clearly above average considering the amount of votes most +2cours normally receive. |
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Effulgence said: Lindle said: That has approximately jack shit to do with it. This club loves to ride Mushishi dick and Natsume's is the next closest thing. I don't care what your excuse is, I'm upset at you all for not watching it. How does that have nothing to do with it? You are upset because not many people watched Natsume, reason is quite simple not everyone might be intrested. That's a shit reason for shit people. Lordwen said: Well yeah there's that, but proportionate to the number of people who actually watched it (12, based on the You Decide) it had a lot of AOTY votes. It would at least have been a contender if it had a remotely similar viewership to 3-gatsu.You guys are overlooking the possibility of watching Natsume, liking it, and yet not being able to posit your vote for it in any category. Which happened to me and probably a few more. Also as a 6th season it equates to episodes 61-72 of the franchise, and having +10 Y/N votes for it in the You Decide is also clearly above average considering the amount of votes most +2cours normally receive. |
| Club doesnt like nice things nuff said |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
Lindle said: Also, You'll Cowards Don't Even Watch Natsume. Easy pick for AOTY. Not surprised, but still disappointed in all of you. How was season 6 compared with season 5? Because I dropped Natsume on season 5. SoL anime requires at least good atmosphere and art, season five lacked in the both them and it was simply boring. And I guess that was due to it's change of studio. |
NapokJan 21, 2018 5:04 PM
Napok said: Studio Shuka was created by former Brain Base's workers, and one of the main persons in the project is Takahiro Omori, director of all Natsume, Baccano, etc. (also one of the more qualified directors currently working in the industry, in my opinion). And I guess that was due to it's change of studio. So it's not like someone else took over, but rather thanks to that change that we most likely have the chance to see more Natsume in the first place. |
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Lordwen said: Napok said: Studio Shuka was created by former Brain Base's workers, and one of the main persons in the project is Takahiro Omori, director of all Natsume, Baccano, etc. (also one of the more qualified directors currently working in the industry, in my opinion). And I guess that was due to it's change of studio. So it's not like someone else took over, but rather thanks to that change that we most likely have the chance to see more Natsume in the first place. I see. But it doesn't change the fact that art dropped drastically in quality compared with previous seasons. Since it had the same stuff, then maybe it got a less budget. Here's some screen shots that I took before dropping it: https://imgur.com/a/TzMSj It was also mentioned here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1562114 |
NapokJan 22, 2018 10:21 AM
| A lot of stuff I have to catch up upon it seems. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| @Napok Okay so first off consensus pretty much is that season 5 is arguably the worst season and that season 6 is arguably the best. While it's been too long since I saw seasons 1-4 (I watched them back when airing) to say for sure, I can definitely say that season 6 is absolutely exceptional and even takes it in new directions no previous season did. Second, as Wen pointed out the core staff is essentially the same. Admittedly season 5 did have slightly lackluster art compared to seasons 1-4, presumably due to them being a relatively new studio with less resources, but season 6 doesn't seem to suffer from this. Also, come on, the visuals were hardly terrible in season 5 even in spite of a handful of off-model moments. The thing where season 5 was truly lacking was in the stories, and season 6 delivers on that in spades. |
Lindle said: In this case, I should catch up with the latest season then.@Napok Okay so first off consensus pretty much is that season 5 is arguably the worst season and that season 6 is arguably the best. While it's been too long since I saw seasons 1-4 (I watched them back when airing) to say for sure, I can definitely say that season 6 is absolutely exceptional and even takes it in new directions no previous season did. Second, as Wen pointed out the core staff is essentially the same. Admittedly season 5 did have slightly lackluster art compared to seasons 1-4, presumably due to them being a relatively new studio with less resources, but season 6 doesn't seem to suffer from this. Also, come on, the visuals were hardly terrible in season 5 even in spite of a handful of off-model moments. The thing where season 5 was truly lacking was in the stories, and season 6 delivers on that in spades. |
| Pretty decent results imo. |
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Eisigerhauch said: Ah, the pleasure that I derive from Ballroom and Handshakers being more relevant in these awards than Natsume s6 is tremendously vindicating. >has seen exactly one episode of any Natsume Yuujinchou season literally what |
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