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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- That Hibiki girl is tougher than I had thought...however, she still has a lot to learn. The episode was okay, felt like it's building up towards something bigger especially through her and Hachirou. I don't trust the higher up guys so far in this show, seems almost all of them have some sort of hidden agenda.  Episode got emotional with the storytelling about Oboro and Gennosuke. It's too bad lives have to end like that... |
Stark700Jan 15, 2018 9:19 AM
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| Can someone explain what exactly happened? I was left a bit confused... |
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| TASTE MY NINJA TECHNIQUE! *disappears in a puff of smoke to never watch this garbage again* |
Major_Gilbert said: Can someone explain what exactly happened? I was left a bit confused... If I'm understanding it correctly, It seems that the Tokugawa heir who was not chosen as Shogun is feeling wronged by the outcome of the battle that allowed the Iga clan to win and deprive him of the right to rule. But others have different recollections of the outcome. It seems only the Hanzo family still knows the truth. I think there will probably others who have a more in depth understanding of what is going on. I have to say though, that i much preferred the straight story and action packed delivery of the first series. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I was immersed in the story about how the kid who I think is unhappy about how his brother was chosen plus the different version of the last battle between Oboro & Gennosuke thus the origin of both brother & sister. And... the episode ended in a cliffhanger! Grrrrrr! |
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| They just had to make me re-live Oboro and Gennousuke's death again :( Things weren't really that clear in this episode in terms of getting the answers that we wanted but at least the story of the first series is still somewhat being told correctly in some places I don't quite understand how the twins were born though |
| Most of the episode recapping and retconning the original ending. Somehow, Gennosuke and Oboro found time to fuck during the war before it ended, and Oboro worked out a deal to fake her death so she could continue their bloodlines. Or something. Should have just made this a spin-off. Get to the new war already. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
QuattroVaginas said: Most of the episode recapping and retconning the original ending. Somehow, Gennosuke and Oboro found time to fuck during the war before it ended, and Oboro worked out a deal to fake her death so she could continue their bloodlines. Or something. Should have just made this a spin-off. Get to the new war already. Well, the presence of turns with their origins, as I understand it, can also mean that they are not connected by blood. But this does not explain the presence of their parents' special strength and appearance. Although Hibiki is not very similar to her mother. At the same time, the OP clearly shows that Gennousuke was a very important person for her. |
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| Maybe Gennosuke and Oboro had sex at some point and she gave birth to the twin siblings in secret. [^ I speculate this happened before the events of first season, in case 'geniuses' argue that there's no way she could get pregnant.] (Lel. Gonna revisit this post when the reveal is out to see if I'm right. XD) |
TheSmilingShoujoJan 20, 2018 12:32 AM
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| I don't understand. Can someone confirm whether this episode proved or disproved the fact Hibiki and the other kid are related? |
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| I'm confused about people saying the original was retconned. What actually happened then, when did Oboro get pregnant? |
| Shoot first, think never. |
| maybe their tissues were collected and then being cloned as babies to be brought back to the village, thats how they keep these elite bloodlines! anyway this is better than eps 1 |
| ????? I'm lost lmao |
| I'm confused and lost. The way they've chosen to fit the kids into the story made a quick mess of the entire plot - and what's worse, we still got no relevant answers! Not even about blood relation. I think this mess of a show has just become more than I can handle, so I'm dropping it. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| They're siblings, which means they are blood related. Also confirmed in their bios on the official website. And the eyes can only be passed down through blood. Gennosuke and Oboro never fucked in the first series, and they died. At most you could say their deaths were never confirmed, but that'd be bullshit and ruin the entire theme of Basilisk. Anyways, found Crunchyroll's synopsis, not really a spoiler since it's mostly just what they were attempting to show in this episode: So, sounds like they're just going to leave it vague. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
| I still don't get the relation between the kids and Gennosuke and Oboro. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
Korax_Guez said: Niveen_Sleem said: I still don't get the relation between the kids and Gennosuke and Oboro. I think this shitty series are trying to show that those both are secret children born from Oboro and Gennosuke. How and when? A bad explanation is coming for sure. This series are rather more similar to Naruto than Basilisk. Poor characters, full of children warriors, absurd explanations in the plot. I got the same feeling but with little difference. Naruto in itself is good especially at the start but it's light and it can't be compared to the hardcore Basilisk. That sequel Ouka Ninpouchou is like Boruto: childish and full plot holes. |
| If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| So many revelations has been revealed! 4/5. |
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| I'm not sure I like this one, yet. By the middle to the end of Episode 1 of the first series, I was in love with the personalities and relationship between Gennosuke and Oboro. I can see a few times when they might have had children, likely they were planning to tell their clans about them after they were married. Telling them before might have been dangerous for the babies.... but still: I wish they would stop jumping between the two situations and just stick to one. They need to establish the main characters personalities (ir would only take one ep) and then they can go to Mr. Jealous and show us what he's whining and b!tching about. They should establish personalities and a connection between the viewers and the characters that matter, rather than show us the village, and meanwhile skip off to that rainy mess with that whiny shogun wanna-be (WHY AREN'T THEY GETTING HIM THE BOAT HE WAS SO DESPERATE FOR? It's not like the rain mattered to him BEFORE.... So why is he sitting there whining about how useless he is and blaming others when his mother is dying (both mothers were evil selfish b!tches anyway- she should die alone and in pain for what she and the other one made Oboro and Gennosuke do to each other!)? This guy will likely blame someone NOT at all connected to his mother's death, for it, when she dies). I hope his brother is less annoying- though it's not likely considering that HIS mother was also no prize. gophercg said: Nice music for op & ed. So much backstory. Why's it all stuck in the past? When's the present gonna happen? I read that one didn't need the prequel to watch this... kinda understand this but so many faceless characters & kinda lost. All I got was the boat lord (whatshisname) randomly got 5 free ninjas, and asked for an infodump. He still wants a nice boat. And he lost rulership to his brother long ago. And the current incest pair is compared or has some curse to suffer like that other pair who had to fight and both died supposedly, yet Iga won. Eh but they say Kouga & Iga stopped fighting, so... Whoever said that it wasn't needed to see the first anime is full of it. I don't know about the source material, but this anime is obviously NOT a standalone. And you are seriously missing out on AMAZING characters by not watching it. |
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Elitheotaku20 said: Im completely new to basilisk and i have no problem understanding the story this thread is full of idiots just listen and your understand there not trying to do anything complicated with the story It probably makes perfect sense to you for exactly the reason that you haven't seen the first season. How about you try finishing the first season first then come back and try to sound high and mighty. |
I envy your delusion; I wish I could live in it |
Elitheotaku20 said: Protaku said: idk how watching more of it will make me understand less of it but okay, i think people are pretending not to get it because they have nostalgia vision about the series and want it to of ended how they remember so there make any excuse to say its bad instead of being happy for a show you love getting more eps but ill eventually watch the original you may be rightIt probably makes perfect sense to you for exactly the reason that you haven't seen the first season. How about you try finishing the first season first then come back and try to sound high and mighty. I could save you the trouble and just spoil the whole first season if you want. |
I envy your delusion; I wish I could live in it |
Elitheotaku20 said: Protaku said: dosen't every one die? It said it in the current seasonI could save you the trouble and just spoil the whole first season if you want. Well if you want full spoilers |
I envy your delusion; I wish I could live in it |
| I haven't watched Basilisk in ages, yet I remembered straight away the scroll from the original was said to have never been opened/used and instead gathered dust at the end. The new shogun was picked without it; adding to the feeling of nihilistic emptiness it ended with. Ret-conning even that... how stupid did this new writer think fans are to overlook outright contradicting that, let alone incest twin wtf? Sokah said: TASTE MY NINJA TECHNIQUE! *disappears in a puff of smoke to never watch this garbage again* Not sure if that/sweat power or the still image showing some guy before that, randomly, was the highlight. Impossible to tell what's going on when so poorly directed on a shoe-string budget. The dialogue does not help matters. Guy at end explained how he was dead after already being dead, as well. Worked as a comedy. |
Izzthewizz said: is Tenzen Yakushiji back? Forgot about that: the fact they're being ambiguous over whether he could die, and even showing or mentioning him at all, is a major red flag suggesting they're gonna ret-con his death. I mean, having an immortal parasite thing survive makes more sense than... incest twins without sex. There was that jumbled mess of a first episode that randomly mentioned a tree being named after him, for no apparent reason... Tbh, this is going to be shitfest regardless so them reviving The Immortal Rapist would at least make it entertaining. They just better have him (failing) to rape more ninja women, and give him the same voice actor. |
| This second episode was better than that before!!! The kids and son/daughter of two great shinobi and they have great power!!!! |
| Oh here we go again... |
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| So Oboro had kids before dying? But we did not see nothing that showed that she was pregnant, I am sure she could hide it with the kimono, but even so... It was sad to remember what happened and to think that maybe the siblings might have to go under that again... |
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| What the hell? Oboro and Gennosuke somehow managed to have kids? When was Oboro pregnant in the first series? |
| A lot of hassle in the original Basilisk could've been avoided if Oboro just followed Gennosuke when he left Iga, but it looks like Hibiki is more willing to follow Hachirou. |
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