| @Sasunarulife I guess so. But I'm asexual. Can't even get a boner to Mia Khalifa. For the past 2 years, I've only have done it to doujins and hentais. Still, it is still pedophilia. Can't deny that. But I still see a difference no matter how I look. But they can overlap. It's like escapism, only for pedophiles. So, are lolicons also pedophiles? If not, tell me what separates them? They do coincide, but like I've said, I will see a difference. Lolicons aren't accepted you know. It's still not an accepted behavior. But people just joke around it anyway. I'd rather not take this case seriously. Seems like a waste of effort. Edit:When I say it's okay, it's more like, the people doesn't really bat an eye. |
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| If you're able to fixate yourself to understand fictional vs reality then I feel like anything goes. Your indulgences are your own vices. But not everyone understands that and not everyone has that morality fixture so let that be understood. |
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| Daily reminder pedophilia is attraction to children attraction to teenagers is not pedophilia |
| Even though I'm not a lolicon myself and never will be I still find their shitposting to be humorous. I don't think a lot of them are serious and out of the ones that are I doubt they're actually pedophiles. |
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Sasunarulife said: Exactly.I just don't understand how people who are attracted to children in anime aren't real pedophiles.The only reason people find charachters attractive is because of their similarity to real people.If you are attracted to women you will find women in anime attractive.But if you don't find children attractive in real life, and yet find them attractive in anime, I just don't understand how it works.Like the people i mentioned earlier that were watching a hentai with a 12 year old, I seriously doubt that they aren't attracted to actual children.Although its okay if people watch a lot of loli anime because they find them cute and not sexually attractive, I don't mind that.-Lofn- said: Well, like many people have said, it's just fictional characters. Sure, maybe you take it seriously, but it has been a accustomed to my fellow degenerates. However, real life pedophilia is different (though, I'm the kind of guy who doesn't bat an eye). I'd say, yeah, for anime characters I guess. There is literally no difference between fictional pedophilia and real life pedophilia. To me, that is a bullshit excuse that many pedophiles hide behind to cover their asses. It's like saying you enjoy fictional homosexuality and since you only enjoy fictional homosexuality you are not a closeted homosexual making excuses. |
Barusukun13Jan 9, 2018 11:17 PM
Sasunarulife said: There is literally no difference between fictional pedophilia and real life pedophilia. If you think it does not matter whether people hurt other people or not, you sicken me just as much as any child abuser. |
| I'm ok with pedophilia. As long you don't buy Child Pornography, thus, boosting the market, and don't rape anyone you can pretty much do whatever you want. About loli hentai (that is NOT Child Porn), I fap to it and I don't give a shit. It's fiction, you can read fucking guro of people being butchered and ripped apart and it'll not do a thing to real people. About you thinking pedophilia is inherently wrong and unacceptable in anime, I couldn't care less. xD |
| hopefully y'all are getting arrested in the next few years |
NatsukiBarusu13 said: Swagernator said: I like Oshino Shinobu but i am not sexually attracted to her.I don't have a problem with people liking young charachters if it's not sexual. I find shinobu and a lot of other lolis to be cute but not sexually attractive.Is that why you have Oshino, Shinobu in favorites ? And if you say that shes actually couple of hundrets of years old then the same can be said about Kanna and that shes a Dragon not a human. You do know that this goes for many supposed lolicons as well right? They are crazy about lolis because of how cute they are not because they want to fuck them. As of whether some are pedophiles. I don't know if some that want to fuck child like anime lolis and shotas are actually having pedophilia like desires, there is still a distinction between anime characters and real people so i guess it doesn't necessary mean that they feel like that for real children. For example i like watching hentai with tentacle rapes and monsters but i don't want to watch that in actual real life porn cause real tentacle monters will just look disgusting and no matter how much rape in hentai i may see i have no desire to rape anyone. Most women actually have rape fantasies but that doesn't mean they want to be raped ether. Fantasy and reality are different things and that may go for those that are attracted to such characters. In the end saying "people in the anime community" means you mean most anime watchers and certainly all the people watching and commenting on anime aren't supporters of the idea of child rape, that much should be obvious. Valaskjalf said: Daily reminder pedophilia is attraction to children attraction to teenagers is not pedophilia yeah this happens a lot because people confuse the condition of pedophilia to the law of age of consent. |
MonadJan 10, 2018 2:45 AM
| And people that like anime, actually wonder why people outside of the hobby all think that people that like anime are all fucking freaks.... The correct response to this thread is supposed to be NO! Let's be clear on something, I do NOT want to meet anyone on this thread that has ANY other response than a NO! So, if I were to go to say Anime North in Toronto (relevant to my location), I'd rather not experience any creep that has any desire to defend the notion based on "it's not real". Good luck out in the real world if anyone discovers you think it's ok just because you say it isn't real. |
| Just living the life of an anime princess. |
| The reason why pedophilia is a taboo in the first place is that it can severely hurt children, both physically and mentally. So if someone loves masturbating to cartoon kids without causing REAL children any harm or distress, then let them. That is, as long as they also stay away from 3D cp featuring real kids. Supporting cp producers is just as scummy as trying to approach children in real life, because as long as there's demand there will be suppliers. I can understand how people are disgusted even by lolicon/shotacon people who only fap to 2D lolis and shotas. However, I'd much rather let those degenerates have their cartoon porn, than have them deprived of it and make them hunt real kids instead. |
| Definition of pure stupid, publicly stating anything remotely capable of sounding supportive on pedophilia. I couldn't care less what a person wanks to. But telling the world what you wank to, is the same as painting a target on your forehead if it is universally guaranteed to get you in the deepest shit possible if at some point it ever matters. If some girl accuses you of something, even if entirely bogus, and they discover your wanking archive, well, your chances of a fair defense just disappeared eh. |
| Just living the life of an anime princess. |
orkuncan said: Excuse me? Did you have an actual point to make or are you just shitposting?mimiiria said: The reason why pedophilia is a taboo in the first place is that it can severely hurt children, both physically and mentally. So if someone loves masturbating to cartoon kids without causing REAL children any harm or distress, then let them. That is, as long as they also stay away from 3D cp featuring real kids. Supporting cp producers is just as scummy as trying to approach children in real life, because as long as there's demand there will be suppliers. I can understand how people are disgusted even by lolicon/shotacon people who only fap to 2D lolis and shotas. However, I'd much rather let those degenerates have their cartoon porn, than have them deprived of it and make them hunt real kids instead. no need briefing sherlock everybody knows what is a pedophilia, this is like watching pro nazi ww2 propagandas and movies and saying you don't like them tell me that does sounds righteous and ill drive over you with a t-34 and blow the fuck out of you with a nuclear bomb. |
| ReLIFE was the first anime that really made me think about it. I don't think it's ok to think it's normal on animes or so, unless that it's something made to critize pedo stuff. |
| Fuck no. At least, I'm not. Lolicon in anime can be funny but full-on pedophilia is disgusting. |
orkuncan said: What doesn't progress? What do you mean by being active? Please write coherent sentences if you want to make people understand your point.mimiiria said: Excuse me? Did you have an actual point to make or are you just shitposting? duuuh ye? are you really reading or accusing me with only shitposting? Sorry let me make it clear, if you don't like it, then be active. Δ°t doesnt progress when you just write pages about it. Assuming that you mean pedophilia, then depending on what makes a person a "pedophile" I either don't mind them or want them cast out of society. The SJW's seem to think that anyone who has interest in flat-chested cartoon girls is automatically a pedo. Like I said earlier, if someone likes fapping to cartoon kids or anime lolis then idgaf, let them. But if someone actually tries to sexually abuse children in real life then they should rot in jail. |
| "But if someone actually tries to sexually abuse children in real life then they should rot in jail." Oh they wouldn't rot :) Life expectancy of a pedo in prison is measured in minutes. |
| Just living the life of an anime princess. |
Valaskjalf said: Daily reminder pedophilia is attraction to children attraction to teenagers is not pedophilia If you wanna be that technical then fine, let's use the terms Hebephilia and Ephebophilia. They're all disgusting no matter the correct term. As for people saying it's fine for pedophiles to get off to little kids even if it's just animation: literally w h a t. How about they actually get professional help instead of feeding their mental illness and normalizing those thoughts in their heads. |
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Does this answer your question? In all seriousness lolis are not realistic depictions of girls. They have very large heads and big eyes, and can be given very womanly features. And either way, it isn't real, so there are no practical consequences. |
| "so there are no practical consequences." hehe, can we quote that later :) |
| Just living the life of an anime princess. |
cageofroses said: As for people saying it's fine for pedophiles to get off to little kids even if it's just animation: literally w h a t. How about they actually get professional help instead of feeding their mental illness and normalizing those thoughts in their heads. L O L that's like asking to cure homosexuality. You realize how dumb you sound ? |
Valaskjalf said: cageofroses said: As for people saying it's fine for pedophiles to get off to little kids even if it's just animation: literally w h a t. How about they actually get professional help instead of feeding their mental illness and normalizing those thoughts in their heads. L O L that's like asking to cure homosexuality. You realize how dumb you sound ? The fact that you just equated gay people to pedophiles along with the implication that being gay is a mental illness is. Hm. Dumb and bad. |
let's live heroically, let's live with style |
| Not sure but I myself don't agree with real life pedophilia. Besides the law, real kids are not interesting. And hentai character like loli for example is just fictional character. They're customized and designed to arouse the viewer. Nothing pee-smelled kids in real life looks like that and they're basically just very different matter. I'm glad so that I can still life normally. For this matter, 2D is yes, 3D is no. |
| Lolis and people who obsess over them are kinda disgusting in my honest opinion. I don't think it matters if they girls are fictional or not, they're still underage and that's still illegal. |
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| http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/national/supreme-court-strikes-down-ban-on-virtual-child-pornography.html Based on the thread's responses it would seem the anime community is NOT OK with pedophilia, but is OK with (anime) lolicon. (anybody surprised?) Should have made a poll. |
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cageofroses said: The fact that you just equated gay people to pedophiles along with the implication that being gay is a mental illness is. Hm. Dumb and bad. Being gay and being pedophile are both sexual preference, neither have treatments, you are the dumb one for implying pedophilia is curable. |
Valaskjalf said: cageofroses said: The fact that you just equated gay people to pedophiles along with the implication that being gay is a mental illness is. Hm. Dumb and bad. Being gay and being pedophile are both sexual preference, neither have treatments, you are the dumb one for implying pedophilia is curable. Not saying it's curable. But those that are attracted to children and want help should get any help possible to try and curb it (along with staying as far away from kids as possible). Dunno how that's really an opinion that should be up for debate. Regardless, pedophiles shouldn't indulge in anything that would normalize sexual thoughts towards children. |
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Being able to combine these genres is an option for a reason. |
| Probably because of the style but I have seen only few characters that look like real people (have normal eyes, necks, face shape etc) but when it comes to majority of anime / manga characters I can't treat them as humans because they just don't really look like us. |
 I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes. Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that. It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers. Thought: How many people sparked H. Charlotta just for blue pot? |
| I am but unfortunately many others are still bigoted. |
shamshamm said: Lmao you only put characters you want to fuck in the ass in your favorites, that's what everyone does Get with the times bro ...  hey man, i'm not judging or anything. i mean Azusa would be the first one I'd tap too if I had to choose. |
AyameTomoko said: shamshamm said: Lmao you only put characters you want to fuck in the ass in your favorites, that's what everyone does Get with the times bro ... hey man, i'm not judging or anything. i mean Azusa would be the first one I'd tap too if I had to choose. I mean like, i have some more questionable stuff in my favorites ya know :v |
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cageofroses said: As for people saying it's fine for pedophiles to get off to little kids even if it's just animation: literally w h a t. How about they actually get professional help instead of feeding their mental illness and normalizing those thoughts in their heads. What makes some bigots think they understand people they've never met and know nothing about except for their sexual preference better than those people do themselves? If a paedophile thinks masturbating to lolis is a sensible thing to do which will not cause them to abuse children, you do not understand their mind well enough to argue with them. |
logopolis said: cageofroses said: As for people saying it's fine for pedophiles to get off to little kids even if it's just animation: literally w h a t. How about they actually get professional help instead of feeding their mental illness and normalizing those thoughts in their heads. What makes some bigots think they understand people they've never met and know nothing about except for their sexual preference better than those people do themselves? If a paedophile thinks masturbating to lolis is a sensible thing to do which will not cause them to abuse children, you do not understand their mind well enough to argue with them. If a pedophile needs to jack off to images of children so that they don't hurt anyone--if that's all that's keeping them from harming kids--then they especially need serious help. Seriously. |
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| I can't speak for everyone else but I can say I'm not okay with it. Just because people watches something in fictional works doesn't mean they are okay with it in real life. I watch a lot of anime and other fictional work that has a lot of violence in them, doesn't mean I'm okay with violence. I watch anime where characters are shooting people and slicing them up and in real life I HATE guns. I'm able to differentiate between something that's fictional and entertainment and something that is real. |
ArillionJan 11, 2018 4:41 PM
| This must be the 100000 thread about this topic, it seems like every week. Am I the only one who gets exhausted? If you want to know what the MAL community think about these kind of topic just read one of 1000 with the same content. At the end people like what the like, it's the same with everything else, personally I like dark elements in anime, manga etc. like someone gets killed, tortured... but in real life it's something I would never want to see and I think most of people who like lolis thinking the same. It's all fictional so don't mix them together |
Eromanga-senseiJan 11, 2018 4:45 PM
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| this is gonna be weird but i guess in anime, doujin or whatever its okay? i mean im not saying that is cool but they are not real people, right? in real life is another thing, its really fucked up |
cageofroses said: Valaskjalf said: Daily reminder pedophilia is attraction to children attraction to teenagers is not pedophilia If you wanna be that technical then fine, let's use the terms Hebephilia and Ephebophilia. They're all disgusting no matter the correct term. I read that Ephebophilia is mostly normal. It is not a psychiatric diagnosis. Biologically, we are programmed to see fertile, healthy females as attractive. For most of history, girls were considered of breed-able age as soon as they started puberty. However, as our understanding of the human brain has developed, we now see a lot of evidence that engaging in sexual activity with girls too young (this age varies between individuals, but most First World Nations agree that it’s somewhere around 16 - 18), is detrimental to their mental health. So, basically, it’s normal to find teen girls attractive, but it is usually illegal to act on it. at the same time, how old is she supposed to be?  |
| Anime community you have to change. Everyone laugh of us because there are a lot sexy characters in anime, but you usually prefer to sexualize 14 years old lolis. It's time to stop. These ships, for example Gintoki x Kagura from Gintama, while they are created by the author in the shape of a father and daughter relationship, its sick, people like this should go to a psychologist. |
ReegrezSNKMay 28, 2020 11:44 AM
| Are you one of that idiot who mixes fiction with reality, anytime both mixes freedom expression is doomed, anything can be created and drawn not just loli and there must not be any opposition or you are just here to police others thoughts remember this and stop posting nonsense debates shamelessly. |
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| I think the question needs to be rephrased to "Are people in the anime community OK with pedophilia related to anime characters?" or something like that, as you can pretty much ask any group of people that question that refers to real pedophilia; Are scientists OK with it? Are athletes OK with it? etc. (answer = no) As long as the children are fictional and go no further (physically) than being body pillows, then you can do whatever you want to them. It's only when real children are involved is when we can all agree that is should be stopped and that they should be protected. |
| When it comes to anime, no I don't care about what the loli's is doing. When it comes to hentai, I think it's disgusting. What I have seen people doing for art with loli in it, I can't even comprehend what people are drawing. |
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| That's rich coming from someone with araragi (you know, someone who happens to be an incestuous pedophile) as an avatar. |
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| The irony here is that your avatar happens to be Araragi... |
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