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Apr 16, 2018 1:37 AM

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A bit rushed the ending but i'm fine with it. Akira dies and Satan/Ryo seems to be killed by God in the end. Overall was a good series, yet, it have some flaws like the pacing but i think that is not too bad as many tell me. It's not edgy for the sake of being edgy. 4/5 for the episode. 8/10 for the anime
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Apr 24, 2018 5:56 AM

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I'm honestly not the biggest fan of "everyone dies" type of ending, it makes every character's storyline we knew and were interested in seem quite pointless in the end. I do however like the little twist of Ryou becoming the real crybaby in the end, after seeing his dear friend dead, that might be what this whole series was about after all.

I wish this series was one or two episodes longer. Showing more Devilmen, prolonging the last showdown and Akira's point of view right before his death would be interesting pieces that could add more depth. Nevertheless, I enjoyed this anime a lot, I loved how classic and simple the core of the story was, I can imagine the manga being an inspiration for many future works. Like Kiseijuu, which used a lot similar themes, at least that's how it feels to me.

Soundtrack was AMAZING, I'll definitely keep on listening to it in the future. The style of animation wasn't my favourite, but I quickly got used to it. The bloody and gory scenes weren't as "juicy", the way I like them, but the "raw" factor of them was somewhat satisfying as well.

My first anime directed by Yuasa, and I fell in love with his way of telling the story - he didn't treat viewers like idiots, not evetyhing had to be shown in order for people to understand the plot. We didn't need to watch the scene of Miko turning into Devilman and Kukan getting eaten/killed off, since later we got all the scenes necessary for us to connect the dots and figure out the events ourselves. That's brilliant!

I'll definitely read the manga in the future as well, I wonder what (besides the modern updates) has been changed in this adaptation. I never imagined that series with demons/bloody mutants would be this engaging and thrilling to watch! 8.5/10
 
Apr 25, 2018 7:18 AM
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Blood! Gore! Edginess! Do you ever feel like you're 14 again? Are you 14? Do you ever slit your wrists? Do you have irrational hatred for no particular reason? Do you want a show that's a waste of time? Where theres no character development? And even if there were everyone dies because of the edge? What about another show with the boring ass allegory that humans are the real devils? Well then, this is the show for you!

So ryo is Satan. Woulda never guess with the FUCKING 666 address. What was the point of this. So demons inhabited earth and were able to take traits of the creatures they ate. So then how the fuck do people get possessed? How did the kid or Akira get possessed by amon? They're animals just like everything else. But hey, who cares about gaping plot holes. Ryo has tits...cause? Oh no Akira is dead ryo is sad earth is blown up. The best way to wrap things up is just blow everything up.

I heard a lot of good things about the show. The first five episodes were so weird and random and I loved it. Then it just went to shit. Glad it's finished for me.
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May 2, 2018 2:12 PM

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Outstanding. What a great show, with great characters, great story, great twists, great music, great animation and a fucking amazing ending! I'd recommend this to everyone over the age of 13. Just wow.

Never expected that ending in a million years. It was perfect.

Easy 10/10
 
May 7, 2018 1:30 AM

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Jagh said:
Blood! Gore! Edginess! Do you ever feel like you're 14 again? Are you 14? Do you ever slit your wrists? Do you have irrational hatred for no particular reason? Do you want a show that's a waste of time? Where theres no character development? And even if there were everyone dies because of the edge? What about another show with the boring ass allegory that humans are the real devils? Well then, this is the show for you!

I think the point of the anime is to show both the finite existence of life, to force the audience to confront it in a terrifying way, and to also show a fairly morally ambiguous message that everyone has a chance to act in an evil fashion, monster or human, that we can all be devils. There were devils acting out of self preservation, like animals. There were humans like Miki's family, or the humans who embraced Akira in his devil form, or the devilmen themselves(who were mostly human in how they acted) acting out of good nature. There were devils like Zenon who were fighting for their own power in other words acting out of evil, alike that of some humans who were acting purely out of evil will. There were contrasting human defense and devil defense forces who were trying to prevent their own kind from dying. The end is a morally ambiguous battle of devils and devilmen along with the easily manipulated and swayed normal humans. In devilman crybaby there is no clear black and white morality on one side, there is a mix of behaviors literally everywhere. It plays with the idea that if we could all love and care for each other like Akira does then there would be world peace, however in my mind, it ends by saying that as great as it would be, the human condition makes it impossible. So we should strive for love while confronting the bleak future, even if it's something that may not end up coming through in the end, that we need to confront the fact that life can and will be awful to us and our loved ones, but we must run alike the runners running for hope, and try and give Ryo the baton and show him that people will accept him this time, Ryo being the evil people in the world. It's a lot of nuanced and subtle and murky ideas, and to come out claiming that it's just "another allegory that humans are the devils" is outright wrong.

There are plenty of subtle and amazing ideas here. Chopping it up to an edgy show for a 14 year old, or to claim that this show that forces an audience to confront the questions we strive to avoid is a waste of time, or to state that this anime which characterizes and develops everyone including supporting characters that don't even speak a word like Hie doesn't develop its characters is again, outright wrong. These criticisms are not valid and overly spiteful.
So ryo is Satan. Woulda never guess with the FUCKING 666 address.

Agreed this was humorously on the nose!
So demons inhabited earth and were able to take traits of the creatures they ate. So then how the fuck do people get possessed?

Symbolically demons are a projection of human evil and people get possessed when they're put in situations of bloodshed and are warped for the worst. Literally it doesn't make much sense, but in a view of seeing demons as projections of our evils, it makes sense in why we humans would become the devils we project at our worst. Think of Koda seeing his boyfriend die and being unable to deal with it and his emotions, and think of Akira's dad when he tried to fight against the demon and almost won. Or a far better example, think of Miko who had feelings of spite build up her whole life, being replaced by Miki in even her own name, and how her feelings came out in a demonic and overt way.
How did the kid or Akira get possessed by amon? Their animals just like everything else.

Demons follow under Satan, Ryo literally told the Amon to posses Akira on screen so that he could take Akira with him once this world was over. He literally told Amon to posses Akira. Miki's brother got possessed by a demon because of the bloodshed around the world, and the violence and sexuality on the computer he would search up. We saw him developing to become a devil throughout the series such as how he would already obsess over devils, look at sabbath party pictures, and even thought the track meet massacre was 'cool'. It was him being manipulated to embrace his evil side and unlike Akira's dad, he wasn't strong enough to fight his urges.

The characters are amazingly characterized and developed in this especially for a 10 episode anime, and the strong part is those characters and the themes that Devilman presents, that and its kickass pacing, art, music, and animation.

Edit: I should say I watched this about a month ago now and I don't remember all the details, however the themes and ideas and characters haven't left my head for a minute. If anyone can elaborate on the plot elements better than I did, as I did pretty crudely, that would be cool.
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May 9, 2018 10:49 AM

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Not my cup of tea, disturbing art and visuals 3/10


 
May 17, 2018 6:15 PM
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Ok so I finished watching this anime and these are my final thoughts.

Complete utter shit.

And this is why:

- Plot: What plot? What was the point of watching all the anime?
- Completly weak "plots twist" which again, plot? what plot?
- Too god damn predictable;
- Character development? Where? Twist and betrayals? Felt so empty because of the delivery;
- it was decent 4 episodes at best, the was completly meaningles;
- If there's a message here is that life itself is meaningless and we are just a part of something large that looks at us small mortals and laughs because of our pride and thirst for world domination. (not all but generally speaking)
- Art/Animation was mediocre;
- Ryo received chest implants? I know angels don't have genders, I got completly off guard there;
- Everything felt sooooo weak, no character mattered, except for the main guy and Miki,the only part I felt anything, and had hope for the anime to be like "wow ok now's gonna get better" was on episode 8, at 9 mins. where Miki's father tries to shoot his own son but doesn't seem to be able to.

To all of you who liked the anime, good for you, I respect your decision, not everyone sees eye to eye.

Final Result: School days is better than this
 
May 18, 2018 6:37 AM

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- Character development? Where? Twist and betrayals? Felt so empty because of the delivery;

You're allowed to dislike it, and even dislike how fast paced the character development is, but this go to criticism that there's no development, or that it's negligible is false(at least in my mind) and I don't understand how it gained so much traction.

Akira develops incredibly nearly every episode of the anime. The first episode marks his transformation. The second marks how he deals with it, gaining animalistic urges he struggles to deal with, ones for violence, hunger, and lust. It ends with his first real painful encounter with demons where he releases his new brutal side to kill them out of anger. Episode 3, Akira has Miki taken from him and put into danger, his hatred for demon kind is at a high, he tears apart the devil who possessed Miki as it runs for it's life, begging him not to. Episode 4, he's forced to see devils take his parents from him right before his eyes, at this point he reaches an animalistic and demonic point where he's consumed by his urges and his hatred, he tears apart the demon hypocritically claiming that he won't stand for anyone who takes life, blind to the point that he's taking life right here and now. Episode 5, he has lost himself. He nearly rapes Miki, so hurt and demonic from the last episodes encounter, he isn't himself anymore. This is the only episode that he doesn't cry in, the episode where he's the least himself. It ends with him raping and brutalizing Silene, showing that he's at an all time low, not only does he not respect demons for taking life, he's willing to disrespect them entirely, to make them suffer humiliation and trauma. It's only when Silene chooses not to kill him, and combines with Kaim showing that devils can truly love and feel emotions, that Akira realizes that these so called devils, the one's he hates, are better creatures than he is right now. This sends him into a pondering state that sobers him up so to say, he's seen sitting on the roof thinking. He starts crying again. He ends up saving a devil, the super high schooler Koda, he truly cares for him and tries his hardest to work with him. The rest of the story entails him losing everything he has, but never reaching that low again that he felt with Silene. He briefly reverses this to have that same hatred for humans, slaughtering the one's who take Miki from him. However, I think it ends with him fighting from a bitter place of emptiness, one where he accepts both the horror that humans and devils are capable of.. It's a touching development that constantly grows in different directions and subsides when he's forced to see himself as wrong.

Miki in the start is not confrontational. She escapes to the dock to be by herself and not deal with anything. She can't bring herself to speak to Akira about his changes and instead observes him carefully, and upon seeing him cry at the dinner table she is relieved. She struggles to confront the sleazy photographer, but as the story progresses she is able to finally get the courage to. She later has the courage to save Wamu and the rappers from the cops. And finally she gets the courage to confront the world and stand with Akira, in one way uniting all devil men and salvaging their reputation in the view of a portion of humans, and also sacrificing herself. She's a character who develops in this way, also in subtle ways, but throughout nearly every episode.

Miko is seen from episode one as spiteful and envious of Miki. She has taken everything from her including her name, and Akira. When Miki who is scared of confrontation, doesn't go to see the sleazy photographer, she takes her place and to have any form of the power Miki has in her mind, she allows herself to be taken advantage of. Later she finally connects with someone, Kukun, someone who is killed in front of her. This, in my opinion, pushes her to her lowest and it's also the moment she becomes a devil. All of her repressed feelings are let out as she stops wearing the more modest clothing, and starts stripping in front of Miki to make her feel inadequate. She starts wearing more promiscuous clothing, and she starts running unashamed that she looks like a devil just to prove her superiority. However, upon doing all of these things to her, Miki still saves her at the track meet and this moves Miko to the degree that she stops running in this demonic manner, wears her normal clothing again, and is forced to confront that no matter who Miki is, she's letting out her own anger by projecting it on Miki. She's forced to cry with her and come forward and express her feelings, finally blossoming into her own person, and to finalize her character arc she sacrifices herself for the one person who made her feel horrible to the degree she turned into a devil. It's some powerful stuff.

Even small supporting characters like Hie and Taro develop. Hie is suspicious of Kukun's disappearance and they already followed Miko around and thought that she had to do with it. He was one of Hie's closest friends, and upon seeing Miko keeping his glasses in remembrance, and upon seeing the tv warning that Akira is a devil and by forcing Miko to show shes is one to, this is all the proof he needs. To him, Miko killed Kukun. He teams up with the riots and helps kill Miko. All without a word, this character arc was for a character who only ever showed body language. Amazing. Taro is a lesser example but we see him go from watching sabbath pornographic videos, to admiring devils and violence, to finally watching the track meet massacre with a smile on his face. His mind is getting polluting throughout the show and it's evident, finally at the end it all comes together when it's revealed he's slowly turned into a devil, one who will eventually eat his own mother with tears in its eyes.

This is great development and the characters get it in subtle and nuanced ways. For people to claim there isn't development, or that it isn't worth speaking about, is just shocking to me. It's one criticism that I will never stand by. Criticize how it was done, don't just mention it in bland terms and expect it to mean something.

I want to say again, you don't have to like this anime. I respect people who don't. The OP I replied to has valid preferences that Devilman doesn't correspond to. The plot is more symbolic than literal and it's very fast paced. The animation is unique and different, something not everyone will prefer. A nihilistic ending that ends in misery can make a story feel meaningless, that is another thing you may not prefer. I disagree with the message they got from it, up in this page I wrote my view, but what you take from an anime is on you. The satanic imagery of boobs on Ryou is something you can dislike because it feels weird. And I agree the final episode was the second weakest outside of the abysmally melodramatic episode 4. I don't think any of your claims are ones that are reprehensible, I just see this claim that the character development is trash, or that it doesn't exist, or that it's not worth talking about and I think that leaves the realm of preferences so I wanted to express that. I know you were ambiguous in how you wrote that criticism, however I see it as one of the most common critiques so this is as to you, as it is to everyone else who feels that way and why I disagree with it.
 
Sep 19, 2018 9:41 PM
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great show but why does ryo have titties lol
 
Sep 25, 2018 5:40 PM

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pretty horrible ending/10

wish devilman hooked up with miki - didnt happen

 
Sep 28, 2018 7:02 PM
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Well, that was wild ride, my dudes. Lots of death, people crying and demons punching demons.
Absolute garbage. How can anyone care about the characters at all?
Akira: well, he cries a lot and is kind of a good guy.
Ryo: he's edgy as fuck and gave the plot just because of his horrible character design.
Miki: Was she even there? Oh, yeah, in that part that she died just because of "OH MY GOOOOOOD CHARACTERS DYING, THAT'S SERIOUS SHIT. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE AN ADULT SHOW HERE, FELLAS"
Miko: I will not even try
Generic rappers, the collection: They died. I don't even know why they were there in the first place.

Well, Devilman Crybaby tries to make a critic to "hate and intollerance" and all that stuff, but in the end, just looked like a very angry and annoying teenager screaming in a park with a green day shirt. The plot was obvious the whole time with the opening spoiling it. The art is Yuasa's, but without budget, and the animation was only consistent during the first 3 episodes.
1/10.
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Sep 30, 2018 8:28 PM

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Playing out like a Shakespeare tragedy in disguise.
The moral of the story being: always know what you stand for before you risk it all, or you could in turn lose everything.
The sexual overtones could be notched down but we are sexual creatures and it was a good illustration comparing humans to demons as one being.
Really enjoyed this one. It went above and beyond it's source material.
 
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So this anime was Parasyte + The End of Evangelion with Berserk undertones compressed into 10 episodes. Of course, with Devilman the manga being as old as it is, it might be more accurate to say it has influenced the aforementioned... but regardless.

This last episode was... all over the place. I loved it, I really did. The introductory exposition was remarkable. The ending is surreal, unnerving, and impossible to wrap my head around; conclusive (oh, is it conclusive), yet with delightfully open fringes and truly powerful final seconds, all presented in a way that certainly reminds strongly of The End of Evangelion. This, this is my type of ending.

But the intervening events -- the all out war, the extermination of humanity and presumably demons -- happened so fast it was just... what?

In general, there wasn't nearly enough episodes for this sort of story for me to develop a strong emotional connection to anything happening. That is not to say I was ever bored, because I wasn't, but being entertained and being absorbed are not similar.

I enjoyed all the violence, sex & general debauchery interwoven with themes of humanism and balance, but I was going to roll with a 6/10 on this because it all felt very stylish yet superficial. But this ending just kind of makes everything better retrospectively. I thought this anime was about Akira, but maybe it was about Ryo.

7/10 for now, maybe it'll change in retrospect.

P.S. After having been out of the scene for so long, this is the first anime I've marathoned in 2, maybe 3 years. Feels good to get into it again.
 
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I hated this ending.

I don't know why, but it's the same like Akame ga Kills ending for me -
It kind of destroyed the whole anime.

The world now restarts again...
What now?

What the hell is that ending????

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And so will you. Probably.


 
Nov 26, 2018 1:19 AM
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ShiionKoro said:
I hated this ending.

I don't know why, but it's the same like Akame ga Kills ending for me -
It kind of destroyed the whole anime.

The world now restarts again...
What now?

What the hell is that ending????


Well technically it wasn't the ending. Devilman restarts at the end of each story. The moons circling the Earth are all former earths that were destroyed as part of the cycle.

This is just one part of the story. You could probably make an argument that the series takes place after the original manga, as another reboot by God.

Ryo's maid knows about the continual reboots. She appears in most of the spinoffs and sequals.

For a better understanding watch Devil Lady or pick up the manga.
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Tsunshine-Chris said:
ShiionKoro said:
I hated this ending.

I don't know why, but it's the same like Akame ga Kills ending for me -
It kind of destroyed the whole anime.

The world now restarts again...
What now?

What the hell is that ending????


Well technically it wasn't the ending. Devilman restarts at the end of each story. The moons circling the Earth are all former earths that were destroyed as part of the cycle.

This is just one part of the story. You could probably make an argument that the series takes place after the original manga, as another reboot by God.

Ryo's maid knows about the continual reboots. She appears in most of the spinoffs and sequals.

For a better understanding watch Devil Lady or pick up the manga.


Okay, thanks.
I didn't know about that, so I'm gonna start watching Devil Lady now.
Thank you for the advice.

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Much better than the pile of tripe that is the original manga. Out of 50 flaws, Yuasa managed to fix like 25. Making me not hate all the fucking characters was a huge deed. In the manga, every character except for Ryo is as cardboard flat as they come.

The episodic fights were far less annoying, the plot had more information (which Nagai only released in other works instead of putting it in Devilman) and the final sequence was more thrilling.

6/10
 
Dec 28, 2018 10:20 AM

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It seems like most people either love it or hate it. For me, it was just... okay. The ending was rushed, but was ultimately the best part of the show. Overall, it was entertaining, but didn't stir up my emotions in the least. I wanted to like it more. :(
 
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8/10 for me. I appreciate what the ending went for, but I still hated it lol. Really hated episode 9 tho....Made me too sad :(. But yeah...a lot of random stuff wasnt' really needed.
 
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Yuasa's ability to print his own style while maintaining the essence of the original work is commendable. He did a really good job reimagining the story to a modern day setting

That said, Devilman still sucks

Zadion said:
So this anime was Parasyte + The End of Evangelion with Berserk undertones compressed into 10 episodes


Well, it's the work that directly inspired both Berserk and Evangelion after all
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The first half was very good, but it started to become a cluster fk afterwards.
The blood gore & nudity though, need more anime like this it's very refreshing.
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Incredible, all you watched the 10 episodes in just one day!!! ;)

omg howd u know lel
 
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It was sad but it was for the best I guess...

Loved the anime
 
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I really loved the clumsy looking art style .. also the music was wonderful . Very good story telling of a story not so unique 8/10

 
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Well I haven’t read the manga this was based on. And to be honest I probably won’t. I really loved this ending though. I guess I just like sad endings in general though. So I’m a big fan of this one.
 
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Horrible ending, one of the worst I've ever seen. We just went from 0 to end of the world in like an episode. So rushed! Why did Ryou turn into a woman at the end? Was he always secretly a woman? I hated how everything before the end was basically pointless because Akira and all of his friends combine their strength and literally don't even put a scratch on Ryou/Satan. Our hero loses and the world gets destroyed and he didn't even put up a fight? How could anyone like this ending 0/10
 
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That was one of the most powerful endings to an anime that I've ever seen.
 
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"I am Satan." I have never laughed so hard and wanted to cry at the same time, ever in my life. Unpopular opinion. I hated this whole show. Glad it's over.
 
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Honestly, it kinda sucks.
Gives me Eva vibes with that ending though.
7/10
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lmao what the fuck kind of ending was that.
 
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Literally and figuratively a godforsaken world.
 
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I'm guessing that in this universe the moon is actually a dead earth based on the post credits scene.

Cool anime.
 
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After the last resemblance of hope that world had died off along with Miki, the series can only end in one way and it's one of the biggest downer anime endings I've ever witnessed. Akira already struggled against Silene and Kaim so it wasn't very surprising to have him lose but I wasn't prepared to see his lifeless body at all. After that Demon uprising triggering God and all, I guess that they're all going to go either way. At least they took it upon their own hands.

Damn. That made me feel empty inside...but what is this feeling in my chest?








 
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Wtf was the ending did everyone just die
 
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Devilman Crybaby despite all it's over the top violence and sex is just a really tragic story. There's no happy ending here, and I'm okay with that. The ride that this show took me for with only 10 episodes is mindblowing. I'm sad to get off it, but this was an amazing anime. Sad as shit tho.
 
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This ending has BALLS.

Akira died, it is very sad, was expecting him to manage to at least defeat Ryo, but that doesnt happpen, and it ends like that, leading me to believe the god they were talking about comes back and destroy all the demons, too late since these already killed the humans and doomed the world.

Overall, I loved watching this, to break the mold, since it is not every day you watch something like this, the OST and art for the most part was some of the best, but it also showed some problems here and there, things that could have been fixed if they had more budget or episodes to work with.

Devilman Crybaby achieves alot in 10 episodes, but could have achieved more, with even more episodes... and that ending, I m still not a fan, I can respect but felt too abrupt.

Leaves alot to interpret too, the world resets it seems, but nothing more is known.

I had no problems with the gore or sex, or the violence, and the cast, mainly Akira, really growned in me, I just wish the studios had more time and resources, or whoever was in charge of deciding how many episodes this got, had been more generous.

Appearently the original has sequels or spin offs where we see more of Akira, it would be interested to see it animated.

Despite his looks, he was probably one of the more kind human characters I have seen on anime, which was really interesting contrasting with his form and the nature of the series.

8.7/10 = 9

If they ever do a sequel or something related to this, I would be very much interested in watching, but what remains despite failing to achieve its full potential, is a brilliant package still, and I will have to watch the OST alot the next few months, cuz that was a really impressive score.
 
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I can't believe I haven't been able to catch this until the final episode, the sport's teacher was a Devilman all along, that explains him eating that fly.
Ryo's secretary too, I always wondered why she looked so... weird, that explains a lot.
It was an intense fight, but it was never a winning situation, a mere demon fighting Sata with his full power? He never stood a chance and it looks like the Earth was once again annihilated, maybe, just maybe another life form will thrive after this disaster, and the only thing left will be hope, hope for them to be better than the previous inhabitants and never steep too low like their previous neighbors did.
This was the definition of “It took everything, but at what price? Everything”.
 
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No, this wasn't an adaptation of the manga. Nor did they remain entirely faithful to the themes of the manga. They did adapt a few moments but changed them around, most of this was anime original.

Anywho, solid 7/10 anime. I really wish they would've left out some of the more juvenile stuff (i.e. the rappers, Akira's demon sex drive) but as a whole it was pretty good. I would honestly say the manga and its two OVA adaptations are far, far superior though. A lot of the nuances were lost. The only character that really got any meaningful development in this was Ryou. Ryou's relationship with Akira might be the only thing this anime does better than any other Devilman anime, since for once it does actually feel like th
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No, this wasn't an adaptation of the manga. Nor did they remain entirely faithful to the themes of the manga. They did adapt a few moments but changed them around, most of this was anime original.

Anywho, solid 7/10 anime. I really wish they would've left out some of the more juvenile stuff (i.e. the rappers, Akira's demon sex drive) but as a whole it was pretty good. I would honestly say the manga and its two OVA adaptations are far, far superior though. A lot of the nuances were lost. The only character that really got any meaningful development in this was Ryou. Ryou's relationship with Akira might be the only thing this anime does better than any other Devilman anime, since for once it does actually feel like they're friends.

I think the ending was kind of fumbled, although at the same time I did really enjoy the last two episodes. It didn't quite capture the apocalyptic feel and oppressive horror of the manga's final act.
ey're friends.

I think the ending was kind of fumbled, although at the same time I did really enjoy the last two episodes. It didn't quite capture the apocalyptic feel and oppressive horror of the manga's final act.
I haven't read the manga, but I do agree the ending fely kinda fumbled and rushed. This has been a very conflicting show for me, I feel like I wanna give every episode it's own specific rating because the quality is so inconsistent. I thought everything up to ep 5 was pretty mediocre, (with those parts like the demon sex drive you mentioned), 6 to 9 were a good 8-9 stars, and sadly it's 10th episode conclusion felt mediocre but with some good ideas. It's just a bummer cause seeing the best parts of this show, I really wish they could have kept all of it as good. If that were the case, this could potentially be an anime masterpiece.
 
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I have really conflicting feelings of the show. I really dislike when shows overuse gore and sexual themes and this really did overuse those a lot, and scenes like that were just eye-rolling moments for me. In other hand I did like the main characters, how things developed with them and between them and two last eps were awesome too. So there ended up being themes and stuff i disliked and though were just overdone and silly, and stuff I really liked a lot. How do you rate the anime then lol. The ending left me feeling like 8 or 9 even, but there were many eps I didn't like at all.. but I guess I will go with my end feeling and with 8/10.


 
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Damn, this was quite the unique ride!

Ryo’s backstory is finally revealed and it’s quite the shocker! A fallen angel who took sides with the devils in order to oust out the humans firstly and then God, that’s quite deep.

Ryo v Akira was one epic all-out battle but it certainly could’ve been better with more production values. End of Evangelion type of ending which isn’t really my thing, but it really suited the theme of the show of ‘everyone dies’ lol so good that I suppose. Jokes aside, the message of the show was well delivered and explored albeit this finale episode being very rushed. I feel like an extra episode would’ve had the impact for me that was intended by the Creators.

Looks like God decided to destroy Earth again and then reset(?) it during the final moments of the show. I’m not too sure what the symbolism behind those two small planets were referring to but I’m assuming this means that Ryo is not actually quite dead yet. Very vague and inconclusive sort of ending, it really could’ve done better to wrap things up imo.

As for the whole show in general, the Storyline was quite hectic and the presentation a little too mature and oversexualised for my liking. Characters were complex, I especially couldn’t understand Miko’s character in particular, and they varied from fairly average to just good, sadly. Miki was hands down my favourite character and her death scene really gave off a sting in my kokoro but that honestly was about it. Yuasa’s signature Animation/Artstyle and Directing had a unique feel to it but I think the latter half was just a mass of low production values somewhat hindering the experience. Sound Department, on the other hand, was truly the biggest highlight for this show! Kensuke Ushio is a Genius and this right here is exactly why, there were numerous occasions where I’d playback just to listen to the tempo of the soundtracks over and over again. Great stuff!

Overall, I’ll rate this show a fine 6/10. I’m honestly a little amazed that this show won the Best Anime of the Year CR award because quite frankly it wasn’t as good to me to even deserve a nomination1 but hey maybe that’s just me.
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Well my first rewatch is done a year later and it was better and more powerful than ever. My feelings haven't changed. This is still a favourite of mine. I only understand it even more now and have it means something deeper than before. This is such a beautifully sad story. I've heard the manga is has a deep anti-war theme but that's evident here too. Violence breeds more violence what we need is compassion. It's gotten to a point where Akira has killed humans out of rage, the person who Miki thought we should all be like has been corrupted. He's no longer fighting for a clear cause, he's fighting out of anger. He's fighting to save the little he can with Miki's army.

Something I didn't pick up on my first watch was how the earring of Wamu's is a parallel to two things. Both the metaphorical baton that's being passed and Mayuta's glasses which were passed on to Miko. Most of the main characters are selfless and compassionate and love each other, they fight for each other and even when they can't make it they give hope to each other to continue. The beauty and kindness the characters show go a long way and influence each other until the end and this has physical embodiments like the earring and glasses as well as the figurative hope they pass along. Yet, Ryou took too long to take the baton, he refused to allow those around him to get through and to pass it on himself. I think this anime serves as a warning to us, to make sure that we show empathy and compassion and so we can help each other and influence each other like the characters in this anime do. It's all we can do. No matter how powerless we are, no matter how futile are actions are, it's all we can do. But it's powerful and it can even bring Satan to tears. Humans are weak and able to be corrupted and they're able to do awful things but better than anyone else they can show love and through that do amazing things. The thing I like about episode 5 is that it changes Akira's perspective, he starts to show sympathy to the devils. There will always be violence and tragedy but hate will only progress that in an unending cycle. Although Crybaby shows horrible acts of mankind it also shows the beautiful ones and although it has this anti-war message that ends in tragedy it showed that it could have been a happy ending if things turned out differently. I had initially read this as an anime about nihilism and tragedy and the futility of human life. Now I still see it as a dialogue on that but also on how we can deal with and fight the seemingly inevitable cruelty of life!

I always found God's role in this story quite interesting. He doesn't seem omniscient, and he's cruel. Because of the implications of such an ending I think it only helps fuel such an idea, there's no happiness in the end but that doesn't mean we can just give up. We have to keep running to the end hoping that we can change the world however little we can behind us. I'm happy it end so miserably because it only highlights the beauty that was there and it allows us to see where things went so wrong. Maybe Crybaby can inspire all of us to become an Akira, even if we have our low moments like he did.

And also, on a rewatch I loved Ryou's character. In fact there was like no one I didn't like this time. I know it's because I know the story well now and that him and his backstory and all that is more suited for a second watch but because of that it made him amazing. I love that you can see his disregard for all life other than Akira's from the beginning, from the first scenes when they're kids. And although he's not close to anyone else he lets Akira push him into a pool and shove his face full of burger. You can see him smile when he looks into their past. He like Miko believed a lie and didn't understand his feelings. It was only when he lost Akira that he realized he was so important to him, his first actions were always in regards to fighting against God subconsciously or consciously but he didn't realize the truth in front of him. He merged Amon with Akira because he loves him, and with love there is sorrow. You can start to see him understand that before he starts letting out the tears now that Akira isn't there to cry for him.

My opinion is unchanged, this is a 9/10 for me. Maybe one day this could be a 10... :)
 
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Why its score’s so low?
 
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The sex and violence was important to give a context about what the anime was about, to show the bad side that exists in the human being, but unfortunately that extended too much, it became a bit unnecessary. And this scheme of Akira facing the demons is little of the original work, influenced by the Japanese heroes of the time it was made, I think it was to give a touch of nostalgia to those who already knew.
And in fact, Silene adds yes. It is shown that even demons can feel true love - something that humans will lack in the future - and because of that love, they sacrifice for each other. And besides, Akira himself starts to see beauty in something slightly grotesque.
 
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TL/DR

Yuasa's worst work.
Parasyte 2.0 with Evangelion elements.
 
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Don't get what so special about this .
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While it had some cool moments here and there, it was just incoherent and illogical. I give this Anime a 5/10 to be honest.
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The ending was bad, it did influence Evangelion, but the latter learned from the former's mistakes. Yuasa disappointed me with this one.
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Also, called it. Ryo turns into a demon and does crazy shit, he is the influence for Griffith.
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The ending was bad, it did influence Evangelion, but the latter learned from the former's mistakes. Yuasa disappointed me with this one.


Well, Crybaby didn't pull off the ending as well as the original manga, really needs to be stated that as an adaptation, it was not awful but the changes it made, and it made quite a few, were all for the worse. A direct example, there is definitely a major problem with the logic of Ryo's motivation, because in Crybaby he is aware of who he is from when he first turns up to Akira in the first episode, and this does cause some issues with the plot, but in the original story, he is unaware of it and is sincere in his motivations to fight the demons, and later on discovers who he is, and that works logically, and Crybaby broke it for no real reason.

I also don't think you understood the ending at all really, I think shown by your identification that Ryo turns out to be just "a demon" as opposed to the fact he is SATAN; which is kind of an important distinction to make and is actually the entire point of the story. The twist to Devilman is Akira isn't really the protagonist, Satan is, and honestly given that, if you still don't get the ending, I dunno what to say. Its not complicated, but its very well done as a tragedy.

And that means its not anything like Evangelion's ending. Evangelion's ending isn't some kind of fix or improvement on it, its really completely different and the only common thing they share is the apocalyptic events and bleak tone. In fact there's really very little commonality in the plots between them, where they tend to share any connection is really just the tone and a lot of biblical stuff thrown in, although really Devilman feels more like its using Paradise Lost more as a direct influence than the Bible. Also Devilman is way fucking better than Evangelion, definitely a lot less up its own ass.

I do think there's more validity in the idea that Griffith is heavily inspired by Devilman's interpretation of Satan though.
 
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Optigisa said:
The ending was bad, it did influence Evangelion, but the latter learned from the former's mistakes. Yuasa disappointed me with this one.


Well, Crybaby didn't pull off the ending as well as the original manga, really needs to be stated that as an adaptation, it was not awful but the changes it made, and it made quite a few, were all for the worse. A direct example, there is definitely a major problem with the logic of Ryo's motivation, because in Crybaby he is aware of who he is from when he first turns up to Akira in the first episode, and this does cause some issues with the plot, but in the original story, he is unaware of it and is sincere in his motivations to fight the demons, and later on discovers who he is, and that works logically, and Crybaby broke it for no real reason.

I also don't think you understood the ending at all really, I think shown by your identification that Ryo turns out to be just "a demon" as opposed to the fact he is SATAN; which is kind of an important distinction to make and is actually the entire point of the story. The twist to Devilman is Akira isn't really the protagonist, Satan is, and honestly given that, if you still don't get the ending, I dunno what to say. Its not complicated, but its very well done as a tragedy.

And that means its not anything like Evangelion's ending. Evangelion's ending isn't some kind of fix or improvement on it, its really completely different and the only common thing they share is the apocalyptic events and bleak tone. In fact there's really very little commonality in the plots between them, where they tend to share any connection is really just the tone and a lot of biblical stuff thrown in, although really Devilman feels more like its using Paradise Lost more as a direct influence than the Bible. Also Devilman is way fucking better than Evangelion, definitely a lot less up its own ass.

I do think there's more validity in the idea that Griffith is heavily inspired by Devilman's interpretation of Satan though.


I definitely agree with your point about Ryo's motivations and ambitions, he was like the retarded version of Griffith if I am being honest. While Griffith was fleshed out, Ryo was not. I felt like the other characters did not make much sense as well.

"its really completely different and the only common thing they share is the apocalyptic events and bleak tone."

That is what I meant by them having similar endings, as well as the Biblical stuff. Also, I digress, I think that the characters in Evangelion were somewhat influenced by Devilman's, or are at least similar in some way, just like Berserk's characters were.

I read up on it somewhere after finishing Devilman yesterday and Anno admits that Evangelion takes a lot from Devilman.

"Eva already completely contains the taste of Go Nagai. I can’t wipe it away. I can no longer deny the impact of Devilman. If I were to deny it, I feel that I would end up completely overturning my own life." -- Hideaki Anno
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