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Jan 4, 2018 7:23 PM

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Out of curiosity, why? Like compared to the most popular anime has like 1.3 millions users and the most popular hentai has like 70k
 
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Jan 4, 2018 7:30 PM

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Cause people rate it low? I mean, I don't score it and some people are just reluctant to put it higher. Any hentai that is above 7 is good.
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Because most people on MAL are pretentious elitists who deem anything related to fan service as being worse than any other genre, because of their mindlessly negative bias towards it, and then those same people write essays about being "objective", and, "avoiding bias".
Hypocrites.
Fake critics.
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Most people don't log hentai, out of embarrassment.
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NihilisticLoner said:
Because most people on MAL are pretentious elitists who deem anything related to fan service as being worse than any other genre, because of their mindlessly negative bias towards it, and then those same people write essays about being "objective", and, "avoiding bias".


Damn I didn't think there was a lot of those people on Mal
 
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I don't add the hentai I watch and I assume there are other people like that so there's one factor.
 
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Jan 4, 2018 7:35 PM

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I'm always scanning through bits and I've never successfully made it to the end of one so I can't really say I've completed any.
 
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I don't add the hentai I watch and I assume there are other people like that so there's one factor.


hmm, is there like a reason you don't?
 
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Zerity said:
Squidster said:
I don't add the hentai I watch and I assume there are other people like that so there's one factor.


hmm, is there like a reason you don't?

Mostly this reason
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I'm always scanning through bits and I've never successfully made it to the end of one so I can't really say I've completed any.


can't say I'm ashamed cause I put stuff on my manga list with sex, but those are the ones I've read from start to finish.
 
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Squidster said:
Mostly this reason
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I'm always scanning through bits and I've never successfully made it to the end of one so I can't really say I've completed any.


can't say I'm ashamed cause I put stuff on my manga list with sex, but those are the ones I've read from start to finish.


Yup hentai manga>anime and I rarely put manga on my list lol

Anyways...

OT When reviewing an anime according to MAL guidelines you are judging it based on Story, Art, Sound, Character, Enjoyment, and Overall.

Note that most hentai have almost no story, and the characters in those hentai have little to no depth.

Though the enjoyment score could be high depending on the user's taste.
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Jan 4, 2018 7:45 PM
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Because people on MAL have SHAME!

I personally don't rate Hentai unless there is more to it than just the H...
 
Jan 4, 2018 7:46 PM

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cause they cant have he option to hide their hentai list
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Jan 4, 2018 8:03 PM

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I personally don't add hentai cause I never finish hentai, if you know what I mean. *wink wink, nudge nudge* (° ͜ʖ°) (aka jacking off ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°))
 
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Leaving aside the pain that someone feels when admitting it, I think that estimating it is unnecessary, it may be because the objectivity of the genre is based on something poor in the critical, in the end it subtracts more than what is added.
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Zerity said:
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Because most people on MAL are pretentious elitists who deem anything related to fan service as being worse than any other genre, because of their mindlessly negative bias towards it, and then those same people write essays about being "objective", and, "avoiding bias".


Damn I didn't think there was a lot of those people on Mal


I just don't add them.

I don't need no hentai in my list.

im not embarrassed but I come quickly and I would just watch 5 minutes of the hentai and don't feel as if I completed it.
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People are too pussy to log their hentai.

I'm too pussy to log my hentai


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Hentai in general is horrible, and only meant to be fap. Some are surprisingly entertaining at best.
 
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#MakeHentaiGreatAgain

I log it just the same. It's animation, I judge it all the same. There are some really good ones out there.

Reasons it's got low scores. It seems the majority either are embarrassed that they partake or beat it and leave it.

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Jan 4, 2018 8:17 PM
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I can't watch it, find it super weird and ridiculous from the bits I've seen. Had a boyfriend that I caught a few times watching it . . . so awkward lol. A lot of the time I feel the same way about fan service, but I've become very desensitized to it over the years.

I wouldn't lump everyone in one group of people, everyone has a reason for not having hentai on their list.
 
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I think it's because this is a somewhat social site and announcing the content you masturbate to seems like a social taboo. It's the same reason why despite how many people watch pornhub, their social media following isn't 1:1. Common sense and all.


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NihilisticLoner said:
Because most people on MAL are pretentious elitists who deem anything related to fan service as being worse than any other genre, because of their mindlessly negative bias towards it, and then those same people write essays about being "objective", and, "avoiding bias".
Hypocrites.
Fake critics.


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Jan 4, 2018 8:23 PM

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I don't add them to keep my list 'pure'.
Beside I don't actually watch them from start to finish, only the 'good' bit. Not to mention I have to turn off the sound as well so reviewing hentai is not really possible lol

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People are too pussy to log their hentai.

I'm too pussy to log my hentai


ya but lets say you want to find that one that you liked but can't remember the name, what do you do then.
 
Jan 4, 2018 8:58 PM

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I would add hentai on my hentai list,
Tbf hentai is usually a single episode or 2, even normal anime with only a single episode are rated lowly.
 
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Zerity said:
lazypigz said:
People are too pussy to log their hentai.

I'm too pussy to log my hentai


ya but lets say you want to find that one that you liked but can't remember the name, what do you do then.

Nothing. All I do is go to Hentai Haven. Click most watched and go from there.
Is there pussy? Yes. Can I jerk off to it? Yes.

I be like hmmm what kind of mood am I in today? Do I want some tentacle shit? Do I want some straight shit?


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People don't want to add it to their list. You can often find people on the suggestion boards asking for some kind of feature too, in which MAL will most likely never do.

I have a few but I honestly don't care to add many, only the ones I liked.
 
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nobody wants to admit that they watch hentai, nor do they want their friends and visitors to their profile to see that an h series is on their list. it boils down to both personal embarrassment and self consciousness, but also trying to keep the site "clean", i guess?

then again, you have some people with overtly nsfw sets that don't get removed because they're 'not nsfw enough" which seems to be a bizarre double standard when seeing that signatures that aren't offensive to the eyes or even virtually nsfw get removed for being "too big" or some other bs. there are some things i would rather not see when browsing mal out in public tyvm


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Jan 4, 2018 9:23 PM

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I mean that puts that specific series at the like 8th most watched entry in the season it released.

Considering that's also 2006 one of the most hyped years for anime that's pretty impressive.
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I don't think of hentai as anime, I think it is closer to porn than anime, hence why I wouldn't add anything I watch. A
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I add hentai and have no embarrassment in doing so. LOL. What would there be to be self-conscience about?

Also; it's incorrect to imply I've fapped to every hentai on my list, so people making that correlation are probably wrong in the first place. Oh well. People can do as they please I suppose, for me? If it's in MAL's database I add it.



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Jan 4, 2018 9:53 PM

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Based on numerous posts on MAL, I'd say it could be attributed to a small few factors for the vast majority.

Many don't watch the whole episode/series, just certain scenes... so they don't add it.
Many don't want their kink preferences listed here, so they don't add them.
Many don't want it known just how much porn they actually watch, so they don't list them.
Many only watch clips on some site, and don't actually know the name of the hentai to be able to add them.

That is my impression of WHY.
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never shown in main page of MAL. no update , no review, no article,no news . unlike new anime every season . so i am just lazy to score or comment about it
 
Jan 4, 2018 10:34 PM

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Maybe they prefer the real, I do not know ...
 
Jan 4, 2018 10:40 PM

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you also have to consider that people have fetishes and some fetishes people may have are pretty taboo and will receive hate from others.

no one wants to see how you rated some hentai 5/10 that's about girls with giant feet and hairy armpits.
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Jan 5, 2018 1:54 AM

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I made a second account just for my hentai, though I barely updated it in 8 months. I'm not really embarrased by it, but would actually like to see it in a seperate system from anime since it's less about the animation and more about... well, lets just say it's a different kind of entertainment you get from it.

That and the fact i rarely finish an episode if you know what I mean
 
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i still prefer real porn, or porn based on anime characters i know...
i imagine lots of people are the same

(also +1 to the post above xD who finishes hentai episodes?)

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no one wants to see how you rated some hentai 5/10 that's about girls with giant feet and hairy armpits.
what's the name of that hentai? asking for a friend
 
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I watch hentai all the time, more than porn even.

But the reason for not adding it into my list is obvious, i only add shows that i finished, and i never finished the whole episode of hentai.
 
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Because most people on MAL are pretentious elitists who deem anything related to fan service as being worse than any other genre, because of their mindlessly negative bias towards it, and then those same people write essays about being "objective", and, "avoiding bias".
Hypocrites.
Fake critics.

Did you miss the part where OP makes it clear he's talking about number of views and not ratings?
 
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not everybody who watches anime watches hentai




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Cause 3d girls are better fap material than 2d.
 
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Same as a lot of people in this thread, I don't add hentai to my list. I can't be bothered to search for every single manga and if I did add them then 95% of my manga list would be hentai, which isn't ideal as I don't see the need to track hentai.
 
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Not enough hentai fans.. And seeing most of the hentai nowadays I can't blame them for not watching it.
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Why would you though?

No, really, why would you rate hentai. I literally can't find a reason.
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Because we see some crazy shit and dont want others to log them as our tastes
Thats why there is an icognito window
 
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Most of it isn't good? Like it's fappable but nothing of it is usually quality.

Also lots of people don't watch a full episode, shocking I know.
 
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NihilisticLoner said:
Because most people on MAL are pretentious elitists who deem anything related to fan service as being worse than any other genre, because of their mindlessly negative bias towards it, and then those same people write essays about being "objective", and, "avoiding bias".
Hypocrites.
Fake critics.


Oh yes, sure, it's being pretentious to consider porn unequal to something actually thought out, with more to it than fetishism, lmao. Don't be ridiculous.

Heck, even completely disregarding whether or not porn can be considered something of actual value, hentai totally fails even at technical aspects with great majority looking like total trash with their horrible animation and boring artstyles. A few get bit better that, but it's still mediocrity at overall anime standards.
And don't even get me started on music or voice acting.
 
Jan 5, 2018 6:42 AM
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I add hentai to my list, but there are many titles that I didn't. Reason was mentioned before: often you don't watch it to finish and only jump between interesting scenes.
Another reason for low popularity is that many people who like hentai prefer manga over anime (for a good reason).

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I can't watch it, find it super weird and ridiculous from the bits I've seen.

With so many completed anime I'd expect one to be immune to that stuff :p

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OT When reviewing an anime according to MAL guidelines you are judging it based on Story, Art, Sound, Character, Enjoyment, and Overall.

Note that most hentai have almost no story, and the characters in those hentai have little to no depth.

Though the enjoyment score could be high depending on the user's taste.

When you rate anime you usually compare it to other titles of same genre. Just as you won't say episodic comedy had bad story because it lacked drama and suspense, I don't think one should hold hentai to non-H story and character standards.

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or porn based on anime characters i know...

Really? For me it's a bit weird to see character I know in such situations. When reading doujins I tend to avoid those based on anime/manga I know.

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then again, you have some people with overtly nsfw sets that don't get removed because they're 'not nsfw enough" which seems to be a bizarre double standard when seeing that signatures that aren't offensive to the eyes or even virtually nsfw get removed for being "too big" or some other bs. there are some things i would rather not see when browsing mal out in public tyvm

Well, rules are rules. I recently removed some of the more extreme pictures in my sig, but I remember having problems with choosing how far I can go with those. Unless we go full prude, there is no way to make some clear guidelines what is too erotic to be considered NSFW and what isn't.
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I add and rate hentai just like anything else since I watch them from start to finish but there are people who just pick one, skip to fappable parts and close it once they're done, if you ask them anything about plot they won't know anything and even if the name of character was said few times during scenes they won't remember it so there's no need for them to add it.
Some people also like to keep their lists clear / pure / whatever you want to call it so that they can show their list to anyone without feeling ashamed / embarrassed.

Another problem which is kinda part of this "picking the best moments" is that hentai is also available on many porn sites and they don't necessary put the name of anime anywhere so people who watch it don't even know what they just seen and mostly will just ignore it and move on without asking for title.
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Because most people on MAL are pretentious elitists who deem anything related to fan service as being worse than any other genre, because of their mindlessly negative bias towards it, and then those same people write essays about being "objective", and, "avoiding bias".
Hypocrites.
Fake critics.

Did you miss the part where OP makes it clear he's talking about number of views and not ratings?


Isn't the OP talking about ratings?

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There are many anime that aren't thought out that get 7s, probably because they're entertaining.

After seeing so many people on MAL bash fan service purely for its existence, I think that's proof of blatant bias.

Anyone who's jerked off to porn and has been watching ecchi anime for a while like me, has probably gained some artistic and critical view on it.

But you're right about the art and animation part. However, 99% of tv anime have mediocre animation, and I've seen anime with generic art styles getting decent ratings.
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Because MAL is a largely Christian community and our users do not stain their eyes and minds with pornographic material that interferes with their relationship with Jesus Christ.
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