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Jan 4, 2018 4:43 PM

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"Pretentious" is often used to describe a series they don't like
Jan 4, 2018 4:44 PM

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Based said:
"Pretentious" is often used to describe a series they don't like

But I don't mind pretentious series :)

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Jan 4, 2018 6:11 PM
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I only made it through 6 episodes and that was after several attempts but Sagrada reset is probably the most pretentious anime I've ever watched.
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Jan 4, 2018 6:24 PM

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Chimerared said:
I only made it through 6 episodes and that was after several attempts but Sagrada reset is probably the most pretentious anime I've ever watched.
Not really. The characters seemed emotionally detached (probably shitty voice actors) and the convoluted plot wasn't really well explained, but I wouldn't call it pretentious. I didn't really pretend to be anything besides just another one of those shows. It didn't dramatically build up plot points with shallow reveals or talk a lot about character philosophies. It didn't cite anyone. The characters didn't use big words or talk in an intentionally vague manner. On the contrary, there was an almost lack of drama.

In order for something to be pretentious, there has to be misrepresentation. It's not enough to just have a confusing plot or whatever.

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Jan 4, 2018 6:50 PM
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Psycho Pass to some extend.

While I was dissapointed by the show, there were enough cool and neat idea. The problem is that most of tge topic they tackle in this future dystopia/utopia place have been done before yet it acts like is the first and take itself way too damn serious. Which I would not mind if they did not have outrageous stuff like killing people by having them explode in a bloody mess. That not even mentioning how painfully flaw the system is and how it expect us to buy this, and don't even me get started on the conspiracy theory level stupid thst is reveal later.

It try to sound smart when in reality is sort of stupid.

That being said, is talking about lots of topic I saw before, but with exploding people which is fun and is creative enough. Is pretentious, but that doesn't make it horrible.
Jan 4, 2018 6:51 PM

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mekakakakkakakakcity actors was so stupid tbh

purposefully hard to follow and made me somehow feel more stupid than I already am

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Jan 4, 2018 6:51 PM
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Probably Ergo Proxy.
One of the shittiest shows I've watched.
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Jan 5, 2018 6:59 AM

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Ghost in the shell innoncence and Kara no Kyoukai series are the definition of pretentious.
Jan 5, 2018 7:01 AM
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Kara no Kyoukai is the definition of pretentious, even though it's not a bad series and the 5th movie was enjoyable
Jan 6, 2018 12:52 AM

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Ergo Proxy comes to mind, but I'd like to rewatch it as it's been a while since I saw the show. Felt like it was throwing around a lot of concepts throughout the show, with most never having an effect on the show, but as I said, rewatch

Kara no Kyoukai is another one that I'd call pretentious despite the varying amounts in each film. I remember the quote "Sounds like something from a cheap novel" and wondered for hours if it was self-aware of how dumb its script is.

I hear a lot of people call Code Geass pretentious, but I prefer the term "stupid" to describe the series.

One that I think rarely gets mentioned: Blast of Tempest. What was at first a well-animated action show tried to make the most blatant comparisons to fucking Shakespeare! At least shows like Ergo Proxy had a sense of subtlety when trying to be more than it really is, but this is something Blast of Tempest lacks in nearly every episode in the 2nd half. It's still an enjoyable show for sure, but this is an easy case of 'shoulda stayed in your lane'.

And then you have the ones where the pretentious levels are so overbearing that they've been forgotten by most of the community. Oh, if only I could forget too. The Shadow Star Narutaru's and the Gilgamesh's of the world. These are the kind of shows that are so awful and offensive that I find them worse than shows like Seiren and the Berserk 2016/17 adaptations.
Jan 6, 2018 1:02 AM

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CrimsonLad said:
Pretty much every series I don't like.

Wow I must have missed the pretentiousness in the second Bleach movie
Jan 6, 2018 1:03 AM

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Yeah, Zoce_ is the most pretentious anime show that I have ever seen in my life. Damn, every episode is just pretentious.
Jan 6, 2018 1:44 AM
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Pretentious can only apply to agents not objects. An anime by definition cannot be pretentious because its not an agent. Only the author of the anime can be pretentious if the intent of the message is deliberate and not a form of unreliable narrator. The only way to find out if an anime is pretentious is to speak to the creator and ask them what themes they were trying to implement and what was their goal behind the anime. Evangelion has a hard on for bad psychobabble garbage from Freud and Jung but it doesn't mean the anime is pretentious because it mentions those author's ideas. You would have to ask the writers and the director about why they included that in the anime before coming to the right conclusion.

TLDR: Anime cannot be pretentious but the author can be pretentious.
Jan 6, 2018 1:51 AM

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Fuchsia said:
I don't care what anybody says, Mushishi is pretentious as fuck.

And what is it that it's pretending to be?
The only "message" the whole show has is that the mushi aren't evil and sometimes stuff happen, get on with it.
Jan 6, 2018 2:00 AM

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Tatami galaxy comes to my mind (the first few scenes), but it was meant to be pretentious cause the protagonist was pretentious.
So I guess the character was pretentious rather than the show.
Except that I haven't really seen any pretentious shows.
Except school days cause that shit was pretending to be a cute-school anime but turned out to be my nightmare fuel.
Jan 6, 2018 2:33 AM

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CrimsonLad said:
Lifeguard_wzrd said:

Wow I must have missed the pretentiousness in the second Bleach movie

Well, assuming your list is 100% legit, it doesn't appear that you've seen it. So in that sense you definitely missed it.

Enlighten me on Dragon Ball Z's pretentiousness then.
Jan 6, 2018 2:54 AM

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CrimsonLad said:
Lifeguard_wzrd said:

Enlighten me on Dragon Ball Z's pretentiousness then.

I dislike it therefore it's pretentious. That's the only reason this community ever needs.

In other words, my first post was a joke. I don't use "pretentious" as an argument for disliking anything ever.

That's pretty pretentious of you there.
Jan 6, 2018 11:59 AM

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I wonder, has someone mentioned Death Note yet? ^^"
The way they are using very simple symbols like an apple etc... so many times and giving you the vibes that there is something smart behind that, really got on my nerves here and there.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:51 PM

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Most shows aren't pretentious. When someone calls a show pretentious, it's usually they either just didn't understand it (which to an anime fan automatically makes it pretentious) or the fanbase overblows what the show actually is. Remember that a fanbase acting like a show is more than it actually is is NOT the same as the show acting like more than it is.

Usually anything that's somewhat confusing gets called pretentious, because more people didn't get what happened and fans tend to look for some non existent deeper meaning.
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Jan 6, 2018 12:57 PM

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Pretentious is a word that is misused and overused like the terms "overrated" and "underrated" to the point where it gets annoying.
Jan 6, 2018 1:39 PM

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Mushishi pretentious? I've seen everything now.

Death Note is kinda pretentious.
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Jan 6, 2018 1:44 PM

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Unironically Cowboy Bebop. Normies who think they can into anime always use this show as the gold standard as their only 1-5 anime seen. I don't think any anime is particularly pretentious though, just the people talking about it.
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Jan 6, 2018 1:52 PM

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Jan 6, 2018 2:00 PM

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Angel’s Egg. It’s got tons of meaning to dissect... if you care enough to. Which I do not. It is boring as f**k. And this is coming from someone who tends to like shows like that, like Lain.
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