| Yeah Ive wondered about this too. I don't know why because Porori-hen is pretty much the same as the other Gintama seasons, gags and all. I think it's because the story has been picking up recently and heading towards the final arc, then this season happened and brought everything to a standstill. I understand why people might be frustrated by this, but its only 13 episodes long and then we are back to the really good stuff. It's not that Gintama has gotten worse, but that people are getting tired of it. Its a shame really, doesn't take much for fans to turn on a series. |
| The quality is still the same. It's just that the we're used to the serious arcs by now, so this comedy-only season kinda feels misplaced. If it aired prior to the SA and FS arc airing, people would've been more positive about this season. Personally, I'd say that this season of Gintama is the best comedy season of the series due to its consistency. Gintama 2011 and 2015 might have higher highs, but they also have lower lows. Porori-hen is the middle balance where all episodes have a consistent quality to them. The HDZ48 arc was probably the weakest, but the current Guardian Spirits arc should be considered as one of the greatest Gintama comedy arcs ever made. Plus, Porori-hen has a lot of 1/10 downvotes. Then the season ends and the 1/5 rule applies, the score will jump back up to near a 9. Personally, favorite to least favorite: Gintama° -> Gintama. -> Gintama -> Gintama': Enchousen -> Gintama.: Porori-hen -> Gintama' -> Gintama Movie 2 Just by putting Gintama. so high up and Gintama' so low would make me fall in the minority :P |
GoldenDevilGamerDec 23, 2017 2:08 PM
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GoldenDevilGamer said: I felt like the 2011 only got consistent after the Renho arc(mostly because that arc dragged so much, reminded me of a arc from the 2nd half of 2006 Gintama where they stretched arcs longer then it needed to be so they can keep it on the air)The quality is still the same. It's just that the we're used to the serious arcs by now, so this comedy-only season kinda feels misplaced. If it aired prior to the SA and FS arc airing, people would've been more positive about this season. Personally, I'd say that this season of Gintama is the best comedy season of the series due to its consistency. Gintama 2011 and 2015 might have higher highs, but they also have lower lows. Porori-hen is the middle balance where all episodes have a consistent quality to them. The HDZ48 arc was probably the weakest, but the current Guardian Spirits arc should be considered as one of the greatest Gintama comedy arcs ever made. Plus, Porori-hen has a lot of 1/10 downvotes. Then the season ends and the 1/5 rule applies, the score will jump back up to near a 9. Personally, favorite to least favorite: Gintama° -> Gintama. -> Gintama -> Gintama': Enchousen -> Gintama.: Porori-hen -> Gintama' -> Gintama Movie 2 Just by putting Gintama. so high up and Gintama' so low would make me fall in the minority :P |
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GoldenDevilGamer said: Plus, Porori-hen has a lot of 1/10 downvotes. Then the season ends and the 1/5 rule applies, the score will jump back up to near a 9. Apparently that is not the case.................. |
| its both less episodes but also the episodes in question are kind of not that eventful aside from a couple of them.It also has the detriment of being a massive pacing killer cause everything takes place before the final arcs so we are just interrupting the momentum of the penultimate arc for whats basically filler to wait for the manga to finish up |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Uchiha_Shadow said: Actually, no. The 1/5 rule brought the score back up 8.99. But many people aren't fans of Gintama being comedy only, so they found this season to be the weakest of all the seasons. It's a shame, since I think that Porori-hen is a better season than Gintama'. GoldenDevilGamer said: Plus, Porori-hen has a lot of 1/10 downvotes. Then the season ends and the 1/5 rule applies, the score will jump back up to near a 9. Apparently that is not the case.................. |
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GoldenDevilGamer said: Actually, no. The 1/5 rule brought the score back up 8.99. But many people aren't fans of Gintama being comedy only, so they found this season to be the weakest of all the seasons. It's a shame, since I think that Porori-hen is a better season than Gintama'. Yeah you're right, but now it's lower than it's ever been during it's run. |
Uchiha_Shadow said: Probably because there's a lot of people that don't rate a series until it's over (I'm the same too). Most people that disliked this season probably didn't rate the season until it was over. GoldenDevilGamer said: Actually, no. The 1/5 rule brought the score back up 8.99. But many people aren't fans of Gintama being comedy only, so they found this season to be the weakest of all the seasons. It's a shame, since I think that Porori-hen is a better season than Gintama'. Yeah you're right, but now it's lower than it's ever been during it's run. |
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AmMar-Sama said: You do realize that only because you don't like it doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad. There's some people that can genuinely like this season. Personally, it's my third favorite Gintama season. I'm not saying that everyone should enjoy this season, I'm just stating that not everyone needs to hate this season. Because it's shit? The current score is still too damn high anyway; typical Gintama fags giving everything related to their favorite animu a 10/10. "It's because of the serious arcs and the quality didn't change" my foot. Yeah, no. This season is just bad. |
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| I don't agree with the 1/10 trolls, obviously. But even I, as a Gintama fan, have to agree with others that this season was not as good as previous seasons. I don't even have the will to finish it right now. The comedy just wasn't there and the animation was honestly pretty trash. I think this being the lowest rated season makes perfect sense. |
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| The usual head director, Fujita Yoichi is not directing in these 2 seasons this year. And the sound director's also changed. As a result, the comedy adaptation and sound directing seem kinda off. At least for me. Usually I rate Gintama seasons a 10 or 9, but this one I can only rate it 8. |
yohoh012Dec 27, 2017 3:28 PM
| Because the animation was below par compared to other seasons and the comedy was just not good. It had far more useless Shinpachi yelling than usual. |
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yohoh012 said: Sound Director is still Shinji Takamatsu, and Fujita was only the Chief Director in the 2011, anyway the only time I felt like they screwed up on this adaptation was the Idol arc(it felt better in the manga imo), BUT the anime did Excaliner and the One Shots way better than the manga(which was just boring in the manga)The usual head director, Fujita Yoichi is not directing in these 2 seasons this year. And the sound director's also changed. As a result, the comedy adaptation and sound directing seem kinda off. At least for me. Usually I rate Gintama seasons a 10 or 9, but this one I can only rate it 8. |
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SenpaiJay98 said: yohoh012 said: Sound Director is still Shinji Takamatsu, and Fujita was only the Chief Director in the 2011, anyway the only time I felt like they screwed up on this adaptation was the Idol arc(it felt better in the manga imo), BUT the anime did Excaliner and the One Shots way better than the manga(which was just boring in the manga)The usual head director, Fujita Yoichi is not directing in these 2 seasons this year. And the sound director's also changed. As a result, the comedy adaptation and sound directing seem kinda off. At least for me. Usually I rate Gintama seasons a 10 or 9, but this one I can only rate it 8. Gintama 2006-2010 https://myanimelist.net/anime/918/Gintama  Gintama 2015 https://myanimelist.net/anime/28977/Gintama%C2%B0  |
| I'm only 3 episodes in. The first two episodes aren't funny and the animation quality drops a lot. |
| I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. |
yohoh012 said: This one goes more in depth on it https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=16644SenpaiJay98 said: Sound Director is still Shinji Takamatsu, and Fujita was only the Chief Director in the 2011, anyway the only time I felt like they screwed up on this adaptation was the Idol arc(it felt better in the manga imo), BUT the anime did Excaliner and the One Shots way better than the manga(which was just boring in the manga) Gintama 2006-2010 https://myanimelist.net/anime/918/Gintama Gintama 2015 https://myanimelist.net/anime/28977/Gintama%C2%B0 |
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SenpaiJay98 said: This one goes more in depth on it https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=16644 from that link  - Meaning of supervise:  |
yohoh012Dec 30, 2017 12:39 PM
| I am a Gintama fan but this season was honestly not good. |
yohoh012 said: And it says he's still there in the 2017 animes https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=18901 , and there is also episode directors that do their thing that have their own thing for that particular episodeSenpaiJay98 said: This one goes more in depth on it https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=16644 from that link - Meaning of supervise: This is also the reason why he's not under Supervisor for the 2006 anime https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6236 and 2011 anime https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=12835 |
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| Do you guys think it would be best(for Binge Watchers in the future) to watch Poroi in either: 1:Right After Enchousen(Episode 265) 2:Right Before SA arc(Episode 300) 3:Or watch it regularly between the RDB arc(Episode 328) and SS arc(Episode 342) ????? |
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SenpaiJay98 said: And it says he's still there in the 2017 animes https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=18901 , and there is also episode directors that do their thing that have their own thing for that particular episode This is also the reason why he's not under Supervisor for the 2006 anime https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6236 and 2011 anime https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=12835 Can you tell the difference between Supervising Director and Supervision? Can you take a screenshot of what Japanese letters used for those words in the anime? |
yohoh012 said: Ask this guy, he translated the Gintama manga for years(and still does the spoilers) https://twitter.com/kiirobonSenpaiJay98 said: And it says he's still there in the 2017 animes https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=18901 , and there is also episode directors that do their thing that have their own thing for that particular episode This is also the reason why he's not under Supervisor for the 2006 anime https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6236 and 2011 anime https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=12835 Can you tell the difference between Supervising Director and Supervision? Can you take a screenshot of what Japanese letters used for those words in the anime? |
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SenpaiJay98 said: yohoh012 said: Ask this guy, he translated the Gintama manga for years(and still does the spoilers) https://twitter.com/kiirobonCan you tell the difference between Supervising Director and Supervision? Can you take a screenshot of what Japanese letters used for those words in the anime? You're the one who made the claim. Then why it has to be me who prove your own claim? |
yohoh012Dec 30, 2017 1:51 PM
SenpaiJay98Dec 30, 2017 2:28 PM
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SenpaiJay98 said: yohoh012 said: I literally said they're the same thing lol, that's why I said google for general termswhy don't you ask him yourself? you're the one who made the claim, right? ask him, then when he replied with the answer, bring the screenshot here. I don't see any supervising director or supervision there, rofl. so Supervising Director is the same with Director, but different with the 'only' Supervision right? |
yohoh012 said: Supervising Director and Supervision is the same thing (named as 監修 in Japan, which translate to 'supervision'). It's basically the person who overlooks the production of an anime, but doesn't decide on the production structure. The director will chose when storyboarding, key framing, voice acting, etc, is done. The supervisor would check if all the tasks are being done properly on schedule. Fujita Yoichi does the supervision for all the BNP Gintama seasons (2015, 2017, Porori-hen).SenpaiJay98 said: I literally said they're the same thing lol, that's why I said google for general terms so Supervising Director is the same with Director, but different with the 'only' Supervision right? For Gintama 2015, you can see that Fujita Yoichi (藤田陽一 ) is labeled as a supervisor (監修): http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/3747  Same goes for the Rakuyou season (and the reruns right after that): http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/4437 And Porori-hen: http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/4722 For the 2011 season, Fujita was the director, but Takamatsu (the first Gintama director) was the supervisor: http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/2172 Same for Enchousen too: http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/2762 Needless to say, whenever a new director works on Gintama, the old director never goes away, but rather becomes a supervisor. |
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GoldenDevilGamer said: Don't forget a episode depends heavily on the Episode Director(but that's more for animation it self)yohoh012 said: Supervising Director and Supervision is the same thing (named as 監修 in Japan, which translate to 'supervision'). It's basically the person who overlooks the production of an anime, but doesn't decide on the production structure. The director will chose when storyboarding, key framing, voice acting, etc, is done. The supervisor would check if all the tasks are being done properly on schedule. Fujita Yoichi does the supervision for all the BNP Gintama seasons (2015, 2017, Porori-hen).so Supervising Director is the same with Director, but different with the 'only' Supervision right? For Gintama 2015, you can see that Fujita Yoichi (藤田陽一 ) is labeled as a supervisor (監修): http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/3747 Same goes for the Rakuyou season (and the reruns right after that): http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/4437 And Porori-hen: http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/4722 For the 2011 season, Fujita was the director, but Takamatsu (the first Gintama director) was the supervisor: http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/2172 Same for Enchousen too: http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/2762 Needless to say, whenever a new director works on Gintama, the old director never goes away, but rather becomes a supervisor. |
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| Its easily the weakest Gintama season. The only solid arcs were the Homeless one and the Guardian Spirits one (I also liked the half episode with Sasaki & Shinsengumi). The rest were really lacking, especially the idol shit (didnt laugh once). |
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