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Dec 15, 2017 12:04 PM
#1
(this is low effort shitpost, go away) i have seen many people who treat a show rated 7 by someone who get upset mildly or severely. it is like 7 means bad show to them. oh that show is rated 7.3 in mal? not worth my time then. in my opinion show who are rated 7 are valuable show. they have their own flaws sure, but their postives are bigger than thier negatives. i saw a youtuibe video where a guy display his disappointment for a anime he wanted to watch with rating of 6.8 in mal. it is not just few people who have this mindset. i looked up the ratings meaning in this site. 7 means good, not bad. so if not the site to blame for this, then who? i mean in imdb and other movies site, i look forward to watch movies rated 7 or above. sometimes i watch movies rated 6. one of my favorite movies is rated 6, for legit reasons. so it is not universal mindset as you might think. in Reddit good revived movies get 7 or more, and sometimes 6.5+ so what is the solution you ask me? there is none, carry on with your lives edit: here are some shows rated 7 people shouldnt overlook them because of their rating. i think thier ratings are fair too. https://myanimelist.net/anime/22273 https://myanimelist.net/anime/30736 https://myanimelist.net/anime/23311 https://myanimelist.net/anime/58 https://myanimelist.net/anime/878 |
HussinDec 15, 2017 1:09 PM
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Dec 15, 2017 12:07 PM
#2
Hussin said: so what is the solution you ask me? there is none, carry on with your lives Why did you make this thread if you already know the answer? |
Dec 15, 2017 12:08 PM
#3
KushHaze said: Hussin said: so what is the solution you ask me? there is none, carry on with your lives Why did you make this thread if you already know the answer? thats why i said this is shitpost, didnt you read? |
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Dec 15, 2017 12:09 PM
#4
7 is a good rating, 6 is too, people just being histrionic for no real reason though boosting the playing field for mean scores on this site and thinking "6.8 = not good" is understandable in some cases because they are usually quite high on average, albeit i tend to ignore them in my decision making processes a lot of the time anyway and mean scores about as irrelevant to me as possible |
ManabanDec 15, 2017 12:12 PM
Dec 15, 2017 12:10 PM
#5
Well my favorite romance anime say i love you is scored 7 but is really a great show . |
Dec 15, 2017 12:12 PM
#6
Subjective ! ... anyhow people are going to feel and act how they want. if it feels right they will do it .... people with little time might use ratings to help them get to shows that are sure to give them enjoyment .. there's always the possibility of over looking a show that would resonate with you regardless of its ratings ... it could be truly crap on technicality but be gold to the person heart .... like something really shitty can be unintentionally comedic gold and beautiful ..... |
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Dec 15, 2017 12:14 PM
#7
That's too many words to be a low effort shitpost. Mine usually barely pass the 30 character minimum. |
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Dec 15, 2017 12:18 PM
#8
I rated Death Note a 7 as I liked it despite its flaws and someone disagreed with that because I didn't give it a 10 |
Dec 15, 2017 12:19 PM
#9
Squidster said: That's too many words to be a low effort shitpost. Mine usually barely pass the 30 character minimum. i say that to prevent any backlash. aka i am pussy. |
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Dec 15, 2017 12:21 PM
#10
People are just stupid. This site rates many shit shows 8 and above, yet rates enough good and enjoyable shows less than 7. I love it how someone commented on my profile complaining about scores, after I posted on this thread, and then deleted the message within 30 minutes before I even saw. Luckily, I had the email notification so I look up the profile. Turned out to be some loser who pretty much only uses 1-3 scores and doesn't rate over half his shit, complaining because I rated one of his 9s a 1. |
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Dec 15, 2017 12:22 PM
#11
Because some people think that 7 = average... Even though it's stupid. |
Dec 15, 2017 12:23 PM
#12
AmMar-Sama said: This mindset exists mainly because the standards on MAL are shit. standard as in the way ratings are explained here? i think you might be right http://prntscr.com/ho1q70 as u can see here. MAL explained that 4 means bad. i guess thats why many people like to stay a way from it. maybe a better solution would be a change in the wording to suit the value of numbers? what do u think? |
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Dec 15, 2017 12:27 PM
#13
Anything I rate above a 4 means I enjoyed it on some level. |
Dec 15, 2017 12:29 PM
#14
SpadesofAce said: Anything I rate above a 4 means I enjoyed it on some level. i think the problem comes from mal itself and who design the rating system. in mal 4 means bad. thats why people hate to rate thier shows 5 or even 6 because it is close to 4. 4 in mal language means 1 in other rating systems |
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Dec 15, 2017 12:31 PM
#15
SpadesofAce said: Anything I rate above a 4 means I enjoyed it on some level. I'm the same way, haha. I think the reason why a lot of people give shows they find decent at best things like 7's or 6's is because they don't want to accept the majority of anime is subpar. |
Dec 15, 2017 12:42 PM
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Dec 15, 2017 12:47 PM
#17
Deknijff said: i wonder if those with that mindset are also the kind of people who say a show is good simply because its popular hmmm this might not related. but i noticed how underwatched shows have more fair ratings than those who are popular. really intersting. i guess there are different types of anime fans. those who only follow poplar shows are the ones who ruin mal. conspiracy! |
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Dec 15, 2017 12:49 PM
#18
Leave people alone with this. No one is going to abide by your mindset. It's their anime list and they set their own rules to it. Why are people so concerned about other's choices and rules? I will never understand. |
Dec 15, 2017 12:53 PM
#19
How I rate a series, movie, etc.: Rating of 5 and above = Good Rating of 4 and below = Bad Honestly, some people need to stay in their lane and mind their own shit when it comes to other people's rating. They rate the shows how they want it. |
Dec 15, 2017 12:58 PM
#20
Hrybami said: Leave people alone with this. No one is going to abide by your mindset. It's their anime list and they set their own rules to it. Why are people so concerned about other's choices and rules? I will never understand. Based said: How I rate a series, movie, etc.: Rating of 5 and above = Good Rating of 4 and below = Bad Honestly, some people need to stay in their lane and mind their own shit when it comes to other people's rating. They rate the shows how they want it. i am saying a show rated 7 [in mal] doesnt mean it is bad. how is that related to what u said? i am not attacking people here. for example one of my favorite shows which is rated 7 is often overclocked because of its rating https://myanimelist.net/anime/23311 Selector Infected WIXOSS blue gender and so more |
HussinDec 15, 2017 1:03 PM
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Dec 15, 2017 12:59 PM
#21
I have a problem. I lose interest in shows quite easily and ones that I do like usually end up with a rating above 8... This is why 7.something shows do not appeal to me often but I agree that they aren’t inherently bad. It also means that my average rating is quite high, when in reality, I simply don’t bother with many lower rated shows (not that I am undiscerning) |
Dec 15, 2017 1:14 PM
#22
Hussin said: Hrybami said: Leave people alone with this. No one is going to abide by your mindset. It's their anime list and they set their own rules to it. Why are people so concerned about other's choices and rules? I will never understand. Based said: How I rate a series, movie, etc.: Rating of 5 and above = Good Rating of 4 and below = Bad Honestly, some people need to stay in their lane and mind their own shit when it comes to other people's rating. They rate the shows how they want it. i am saying a show rated 7 [in mal] doesnt mean it is bad. how is that related to what u said? i am not attacking people here. for example one of my favorite shows which is rated 7 is often overclocked because of its rating https://myanimelist.net/anime/23311 Selector Infected WIXOSS blue gender and so more I'm not sure if this was addressed to me or the other person below me, but okay. Most people who overlook 7 rated anime are people that are satisfied with watching 8 rated anime. They just feel more secure by watching a highly rated anime rather than a 7 rated anime so they prefer to start with a high rated anime rated than a not so high rated anime. It's all just a matter of choice and there's nothing wrong with that. I too am very picky when it comes to show rated below 7.00 |
Dec 15, 2017 1:21 PM
#23
I don't think it'll solve anything but I think it'll help if there was a like/dislike button next to score of each anime. |
Dec 15, 2017 1:23 PM
#24
The shitposts have evolved, they're becoming self-aware! |
Dec 15, 2017 1:27 PM
#25
it really depends. someone working whole day doesnt have time for anime like that. true watching can broaden the spectrum of anime but at the end of the day it's better to play it safe and watch something scored +8 |
Dec 15, 2017 1:39 PM
#26
I don't even care about MyAnimeList ratings as I basically replaced whatever YouTube and television content with anime programs. And I don't believe nowadays there are fairly bad anime. Honestly, this season's shows I watched (one episode of) are like, Shoukoku no Altair, Net-ju no Susume, Konohana Kitan, Shokugeki no Souma : San no Sara, Ousama Game... All of those have qualities (all of those are the kind of anime I crave for anyways). |
Dec 15, 2017 1:42 PM
#27
People treat 7 as if that is the "average" score rather than a 5. And even worse most think if everything is decent and slightly enjoyable then it can't be a 5 or else it'll only look like half effort. |
Dec 15, 2017 4:30 PM
#28
M8, look at this for a second https://myanimelist.net/anime/285/Argento_Soma?q=argento Poor poor show ;-; The problem with those people is that they think MAL has a nice scoring system. Ha! |
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Dec 15, 2017 4:32 PM
#29
LofnEdda said: M8, look at this for a second https://myanimelist.net/anime/285/Argento_Soma?q=argento Poor poor show ;-; The problem with those people is that they think MAL has a nice scoring system. Ha! oh my some of my firends in mal actually like this. thanks for telling me. i will check it out. |
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Dec 15, 2017 4:38 PM
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Dec 15, 2017 4:42 PM
#31
You have to know this is about the general norm and the general rating system of our current society. In Mal itself, most shows that're under 7 are terrible show/ near unwatchable, and shows that're between 7~7.99 or often mediocre with some exceptions. Even in game industry, only the 8+ point games are even worth playing , and the 6s one are often terrible. So if EVERYONE is giving out 7 and 8 ALL THE TIME in all the medium, then to differentiate good shows from bad shows require a mark of 8+ or even 9. That one mark is a significant difference because below that, you'd find out LOTS AND LOTS of mediocre show fall on the 7 category. They are QUITE BAD yet people will still tolerate it and give it a 7 cuz that's their norm standard of bad show mark. |
Dec 15, 2017 4:58 PM
#32
A lower score basically just means that there are more potential problems that can get in the way of your enjoyment. Whether you can overlook those problems is up to you. Even highly rated anime/manga isn't flawless and has potential problems, the risk of you disliking it is just (generally) lower. For example there could be a really well told story, great visuals, great music and so on but if the lead characters are bland that could be enough to put people off from finishing a 8/10 or 9/10 show. However there could be a 6/10 show with poor animation, forgettable music, bland story but with some great characters and that could make someone be able to overlook the problems and find it more enjoyable than that 8/10 show. Generally (if we're talking MAL scores) I will always give an anime/manga a shot so long as the score doesn't dip down to a 5/10. Not because I think that I might not get some enjoyment out of them, but because I feel that I have more worthwhile stuff to watch in my backlog. |
Dec 15, 2017 5:13 PM
#33
There's also this: ppl rate a show mostly based on taste, not on actual """quality"""... Just look at the top 10... (note the many quotes on the word "quality" though). That's why some good stuff, like "Kimi no Na wa" gets 2nd place and "The Garden of Words" (Kotonoha no niwa) gets 241st even though it is at least the same level (I think its much better) |
Dec 15, 2017 5:19 PM
#34
I just don't care about the mean score of any anime, the only score that matter to me is my own score. Another thing, I hate it when people say that they won't watch an anime if it's was made before a certain year |
Dec 15, 2017 5:24 PM
#35
Tencent__Weeb said: I just don't care about the mean score of any anime, the only score that matter to me is my own score. Mostly I agree, but i do get pissed off when something has a low score for no reason. (and my score avg is under 6) |
Dec 15, 2017 5:32 PM
#36
Absolute number are meaningless. They only gain meaning when compared to other numbers; the notions of "good" or "bad", "high" or "low" have no place when there are no references. What if I told you that a regular ice-cream you buy in a regular store at the corner of a regular street costs "200". ¿Is that expensive or cheap? Well....you need another price of another item to answer that. If I told you that a house in the same neighborhood of the store costs "1000", well the ice-cream sure it's gonna be expensive. Similarly, if I told you that a Big Mac you can buy in a McDonald's in the same street costs "6000" well the ice-cream sure it's gonna be cheap. The same applies to scores. A score of 6 or 7 will be considered as a high score if an individual -with let's say, over 100 shows completed- has a mean score of let's say....4.5. But it will be considered a low score if another individual with the same 100 shows completed has a mean score of let's say...9.5. It then will always depend on how the individual uses the 10 point scale and what meaning he/she gives to every point. |
Dec 15, 2017 5:40 PM
#37
How are you shitposting? I think it's because peoples' expectations have become incredibly high. So anything less than those expectations is treated as not worth wasting time on. |
Dec 15, 2017 5:41 PM
#38
I'd agree with you if not for one thing, the 1-10 scale already comes with the referential: |
lavrattiDec 15, 2017 5:45 PM
Dec 15, 2017 5:42 PM
#39
I mean, you shouldn't really care what people think about the ratings of anime in MAL. The rating score only gives you a general idea of what you should expect from the anime, but it shouldn't be the lone factor that decides whether you should watch it or not. People who view anime rated 7 or below as something not worth their time is probably missing out on anime that they would've enjoyed. It's their fault for having a mindset like that. I definitely agree that anime rated 5+ are generally above average while those below 5 are subpar. But in the end, don't let the numbers decide and try it out yourself to see if you might enjoy the anime. |
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Dec 15, 2017 5:56 PM
#40
People overlook shows rated 6-7 because most people treat 7 as an 'average' score when rating anime, even though that's what a 5/10 is for. As a result, most shows rated around 7 on MAL are actually only average in quality (assuming you even trust people's ratings in the first place). Personally, if I rate something a 7, that means that I definitely thought it was good. |
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Dec 15, 2017 6:02 PM
#41
lavratti said: I'd agree with you if not for one thing, the 1-10 scale already comes with the referential: Around 50% of MAL (mainly the people who casually use the site) don't actually use it that way. Some people will hate a show, think it's absolutely terrible, but will still give it a 5 or 6. That's just how MAL works. |
Dec 15, 2017 6:08 PM
#42
Tencent__Weeb said: I just don't care about the mean score of any anime, the only score that matter to me is my own score. Another thing, I hate it when people say that they won't watch an anime if it's was made before a certain year yea there is some bias going on against old shows. dont know why. one of my favorite movies in live action for example is black and white from the 60's angry men |
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Dec 15, 2017 6:12 PM
#43
Zephaas said: lavratti said: I'd agree with you if not for one thing, the 1-10 scale already comes with the referential: Around 50% of MAL (mainly the people who casually use the site) don't actually use it that way. Some people will hate a show, think it's absolutely terrible, but will still give it a 5 or 6. That's just how MAL works. It's not just mal. Even your teacher will do the same cuz that's the society norm. You can write an atrocious piece of garbage work and your teacher will still give you a 50% so you won't fail directly. The critics of gaming industry will give atrocious game a 60~69 too even though the game is atrociously bad too. Basically to me all the mark is counted as this now: (You have to adjust the standard for yourself to fit the society marking standard) Below 5 -> unwatchable 5~6 -> absolutely atrocious (Ousama Game fits here) 6~7 -> very very bad, shows with critical flaws 7~8 -> average ~ good show, some mediocre some good 8~9 -> ranging from good ~ outstanding shows . (This is where people's opinion differ the most generally) 9+ -> masterpiece Usually some of my favorite series come from 8~9 base on my experience, so I'd mostly give them a try. |
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Dec 15, 2017 6:28 PM
#44
Zephaas said: lavratti said: I'd agree with you if not for one thing, the 1-10 scale already comes with the referential: Around 50% of MAL (mainly the people who casually use the site) don't actually use it that way. Some people will hate a show, think it's absolutely terrible, but will still give it a 5 or 6. That's just how MAL works. Not only MAL, but many other sites that rank whatever-thing too. In IMDB for example you can also see that the "normal/regular/average/not-that-good-but-not-that-bad-either" movie....gets most of the time a score around 7, so a 6.9 scored movie is already considered mediocre or disappointing. And something with a 5.9 score is already considered straight terrible. |
Dec 15, 2017 6:41 PM
#45
neon-kun said: Absolute number are meaningless. They only gain meaning when compared to other numbers; the notions of "good" or "bad", "high" or "low" have no place when there are no references. What if I told you that a regular ice-cream you buy in a regular store at the corner of a regular street costs "200". ¿Is that expensive or cheap? Well....you need another price of another item to answer that. If I told you that a house in the same neighborhood of the store costs "1000", well the ice-cream sure it's gonna be expensive. Similarly, if I told you that a Big Mac you can buy in a McDonald's in the same street costs "6000" well the ice-cream sure it's gonna be cheap. The same applies to scores. A score of 6 or 7 will be considered as a high score if an individual -with let's say, over 100 shows completed- has a mean score of let's say....4.5. But it will be considered a low score if another individual with the same 100 shows completed has a mean score of let's say...9.5. It then will always depend on how the individual uses the 10 point scale and what meaning he/she gives to every point. thats really interesting point. i agree with you. i often see shows that have different qualities to be placed within same catagories of values, so it is not really that clear. |
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Dec 15, 2017 6:49 PM
#46
Yeah if you see 7 and 6 on MAL means good and fine ,but that's not the way people take it ,few months ago I was the same lol |
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Dec 15, 2017 7:00 PM
#47
neon-kun said: Zephaas said: lavratti said: I'd agree with you if not for one thing, the 1-10 scale already comes with the referential: Around 50% of MAL (mainly the people who casually use the site) don't actually use it that way. Some people will hate a show, think it's absolutely terrible, but will still give it a 5 or 6. That's just how MAL works. Not only MAL, but many other sites that rank whatever-thing too. In IMDB for example you can also see that the "normal/regular/average/not-that-good-but-not-that-bad-either" movie....gets most of the time a score around 7, so a 6.9 scored movie is already considered mediocre or disappointing. And something with a 5.9 score is already considered straight terrible. Yeah I guess so, but it seems worse on MAL. IMDB isn't quite as bad from what I have seen. |
Dec 15, 2017 7:18 PM
#48
Zephaas said: neon-kun said: Zephaas said: lavratti said: I'd agree with you if not for one thing, the 1-10 scale already comes with the referential: Around 50% of MAL (mainly the people who casually use the site) don't actually use it that way. Some people will hate a show, think it's absolutely terrible, but will still give it a 5 or 6. That's just how MAL works. Not only MAL, but many other sites that rank whatever-thing too. In IMDB for example you can also see that the "normal/regular/average/not-that-good-but-not-that-bad-either" movie....gets most of the time a score around 7, so a 6.9 scored movie is already considered mediocre or disappointing. And something with a 5.9 score is already considered straight terrible. Yeah I guess so, but it seems worse on MAL. IMDB isn't quite as bad from what I have seen. i agree. some of the movies i liked and enjoyed are rated 7 on imdb. |
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Dec 15, 2017 7:53 PM
#49
I am among the faithful who uses the scoring system as intended. I just happen across excellent stuff all the time (because I research the SHIT out of my watch list and only plan on watching shit that's outright good or has a high possibility of being good). |
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Dec 17, 2017 6:15 AM
#50
Ikr? People think that 7 is an average score and 6 a bad one when in reality 6 and 7 are good ratings. |
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