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| Rabbit, Monkey and Ox were done away with fast... not that I didn't expect it, I guess I've gotten used to fast and kinda anticlimactic deaths by now. Aw, Rat won. Good. He's a guy very easy to root for, perhaps even easiest because of how he's neither particularly good nor bad, or insane or bloodthirsty or burdened with complicated pasts, ideals and whatnot. He looks truly neutral. His ability is straight from All You Need Is Kill/Edge of Tomorrow - an ability of a strategist rather than a warrior, but that's what makes it cool. Aaand, this is not finished yet, he's not completely safe yet. I hope he doesn't get killed by those scumbag organizers. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| Hmmm...I wonder if Ox figured out Rat's ability at the end, since he said "I feel like I saw him before. I believe -" |
| loved this episode. Ox speaks too much :'D since it's a common thing in this anime, I kept waiting for the the ubw-Shinji-Matou-bulk to finish him but thank god it wasn't Rabbit who did it. Rat's ability has been hinted at a few times, it was no surprise to me. sounds kinda OP even though he does experience all the routes himself. is there any limit to that? like in Sakurada Reset you couldn't "save" for some time after resetting. I get it that his ability is not time travel but he's able to see the routes, choose the most suitable one, then he locks that one, and in the next situation he does the same thing. quite convenient I'd say. the moment with Rat dying inevitably after leaving the building was done pretty well, reminded me of Steins;Gate. really curious as to what's going to happen in the finale. P.S. no 'everybody, clap your hands' in the PV ;( |
demimondeDec 12, 2017 11:39 AM
phantomfandom said: staranise said: 'The discarded paths are remembered only by him (with some exceptions), but he doesn’t have perfect recall from what you describe it is more close to 'parallel timeloop' to me. But I understand that when mention timeloop most people will only think of linear timeloop like Re:Zero, Steins;Gate, Haruhi or Boku Dake (Erased). When you say time loop, I imagine something like Groundhog Days when the same scenario happens over and over and over with little changes. Nezumi's ability involves experiencing realities at the same time. He doesn't experience 1 scenario, discards it and experiences another, discards it again and chooses another route. All alternate realities happens at the same time. |
| Damn, I thought this show would just go downhill after the set up of "Background story = death" but this revelation of the Rat was really interesting, then this could mean that the Rat wanted them to die fast? if this is true, then that could answer why almost everyone died stupidly. PD: I wonder how the fights looked on those other 100 routes he experienced |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Only one episode left. Now that the Juuni Taisen is over I wonder how they will end this series and what Rat's wish will be. |
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| I didn't expected the episode to conclude the Juuni Taisen, but, well, the episode has responded some of the doubts we had in the previous episodes, like why everyone seemed know Rat in the past when he was a nobody or why many of the skilled fighters of the tournament commited such stupid mistakes (since that was the only way someone like Rat could have won the tournament, since even when he won, it was thanks to Monkey). Rat's ability could sound awesome in paper, but that thing of dying 99 times to achieve a route when he could have won the Juuni Taisen sounds horrible. It's like Subaru's ability in Re: Zero, but more dangerous (since with this, you know you are done if there is no path who can save you). I wonder how he can retain his sanity after all the horrible stuff he had to live. Even though I liked Ox more, and I would have liked to see his past, I'm fine with his ending. There was no way he could have won against Rabbit + Monkey and did a good job in the tournament, being one of the last survivors. Nisio did justice to my sign at the end. Rest in Peace, you magnificent warrior. Respecting Rabbit, he died (for good) like how he lived, as a creepy son of a bitch. At the end, as I though at the beginning of the series, Nisio pulled a Katanagatari (AKA 90% talk, 10% action). I'm not even surprised. I wonder how this is going to end, I guess they are going to show what happened to Rat after the ending of the Juuni Taisen. |
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| I'm kind of glad that Boar died first because if you think about it.. she's basically Gilgamesh from F/Z with that overpowered gun of hers. Imo, the best characters were Chicken, Monkey, and Tiger. All the guys sucked. Symbolism of Zodiacs: Snake: Rebirth, transformation, immortality, and healing due to the shedding of their skin. Also known as a "creative life force." Boar: Defense, war, courage. Dog: Guidance, protection, loyalty, faithfulness. Chicken: A symbol of parental and spiritual love Monkey: Tails represent tools of balance and control. Sheep: Renewal, purification, compassion. Horse: A universal symbol of freedom without restraint. Dragon: Chinese dragons traditionally symbolize potent and auspicious powers, particularly control over water, rainfall, typhoons, and floods. Rabbit: Symbolic rabbit meanings deal primarily with abundance, comfort, and vulnerability. Traditionally, rabbits are associated with fertility, sentiment, desire, and procreation. Tiger: Patience. Fiery strength of will. Greatest potential. Ox: Often a symbol of power. The irony of their deaths: Snake: He is still killing people even after his death, hence the "creativeness" and "rebirth." Boar: Her arrogance (or twisted form of "courage") did her in. Dog: He was too trusting of Chicken. Chicken: She let her birds eat her, hence the "parental love" part. Monkey: Her personality is all about peace or "control." She died because she couldn't control Rabbit/get through to him/figure him out. Everything was out of control for her. Sheep: This one is kind of a stretch, but he was old, so I guess that figures on the "renewal" part. Either that, or his "compassion" for replacing his son in the war ended up killing him. Horse: He died in a barricaded room with no escape. Dragon: Liquid nitrogen. Pretty obvious symbolism there. Rabbit: It took group effort and group thinking to finally bring him down. Tiger: She threw away her potential to win the whole thing. It was also ironic that she lived the life of a drunk with no patience or determination/will to do anything. Ox: He was overpowered by Rabbit. |
ZelevDec 12, 2017 12:02 PM
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| So....that was okay I guess but I'm betting on the "Everybody Dies At The End" route for the finale. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| Rat has one crazy power. No wonder he won. I'm intrigued about what his wish will be. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Damn Rat's power is crazy, but man that could be pretty useful in real life. I guess that also explains why all the other warriors kept saying he seemed familiar. I wasn't expecting everything to end in this episode, so it should be interesting to see what goes down in next week's finale. Also, it seems like Ox does remember meeting Tiger before, I guess he just didn't realize they were the same person. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| I've long wanted Rat's ability in real life man. Would be so convenient |
| ok that was something...I really liked rat power...explains how he was so lucky...guy had lived it sixty times....ok I am satisfied...I really want to know his wish |
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| Rat cheated!! That was a pretty good end to the war, everything laid out clearly almost like a recap. Rat's power is pretty cool and explains why he was able to avoid dying for so long. I hope his wish will be interesting given how carefully he can consider his choice. |
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| I'm not even mad at how the Juuni Taisen ended up. Even without the spoilerish ED, it was easy for me to guess at episode 1 that Rat would win. I did have expectations of more action packed fights but the way they were handled in the anime felt strangely more realistic. I'm looking forward to see how everything wraps up next episode! |
| All that's left to do now is wish everybody except usagi back to life😂😅😭 |
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| Nezumi was my favourite from the get-go, and he ends up as some Mad strategist. Now time for shokugeki no souma ✌ |
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| what an absolutely amazing reveal. love the character of rat. it all makes so much sense now. this single episode bumps my rating for this show up one digit. lets see, maybe the last episode will have even more great stuff coming for us. |
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thebrentinator24 said: Damn Rat's power is crazy, but man that could be pretty useful in real life. Yeah... like asking a girl to go on a date 100 times and she declines every single time. |
| Man...I thought the Rabbit was OP, but Rat's power is on a whole other level. I have no idea how infinite bullets, a flamethrower, a sword, or any of the other powers can even remotely compare to that. I really like this show, but the differences in power are far too great. |
| Uggg rat won :( stupid special ability... at least it wasn’t rabbit <= who had zero backstory !!! I wonder what he’ll wish for... WORLD PEACE |
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CT_BINO said: or go to casino and win gamesthebrentinator24 said: Damn Rat's power is crazy, but man that could be pretty useful in real life. Yeah... like asking a girl to go on a date 100 times and she declines every single time. |
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GangsterCat said: CT_BINO said: or go to casino and win gamesYeah... like asking a girl to go on a date 100 times and she declines every single time. Actually, the 'asking a girl to go on a date 100 times and she declines every single time' part did happen to Nezumi in the past. |
| Already thought that Rat would be winner of the Juuni Taisen,but holy crap, I wasn't expecting him to have an ability which let's him simulate many different routes. Usagi looked insane.. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Does anyone else feel unsatisfied? At first it was cool how characters I thought would last the War taken out quickly, but if they do that every time it’s kind of disappointing. I knew for so long that Nezumi would be the winner because of how little he did. His power’s really cool though. The first few episodes are going to be my sole reason to return to this show. |
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| Rat ability look alike VN tbh |
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FMmatron said: Already thought that Rat would be winner of the Juuni Taisen,but holy crap, I wasn't expecting him to have an ability which let's him simulate many different routes. Usagi looked insane.. Nezumi's ability doesn't let him simulate many different routes. He actually experiences all 100 probabilities at the same time and choose 1 he wants to become reality. They don't just happen in his head, he actually experiences them that's why he's too tired all the time. |
staranise said: FMmatron said: Already thought that Rat would be winner of the Juuni Taisen,but holy crap, I wasn't expecting him to have an ability which let's him simulate many different routes. Usagi looked insane.. Nezumi's ability doesn't let him simulate many different routes. He actually experiences all 100 probabilities at the same time and choose 1 he wants to become reality. They don't just happen in his head, he actually experiences them that's why he's too tired all the time. Thanks for the clarification,I may rewatch that part about his ability. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| I really thought Rat's ability is spacial manipulation since he sneak in and out in Horse's hiding place, don't see how precognition allows him to do that Anyway he's very OP, his ability I mean, don't get why people saying he's actually weak after this, well he is weak physically and in CQC but overall OP with an OP ability I think they're planning on reviving the others? I guess coz nothing seems impossible for the organizers |
FMmatron said: staranise said: Nezumi's ability doesn't let him simulate many different routes. He actually experiences all 100 probabilities at the same time and choose 1 he wants to become reality. They don't just happen in his head, he actually experiences them that's why he's too tired all the time. Thanks for the clarification,I may rewatch that part about his ability. It wasn't presented properly in the anime so I understand the confusion. Since Nezumi's ability was already shown and since the anime have actually reached the end of the novel (almost, just left off one paragraph), I guess this isn't a spoiler anymore. In the novel, it's explained as: 'Tsugiyoshi is a soldier and a high school student. His most prominent ability in battle, the Hundred Paths of Nezumi-san, allows him to tamper with the realm of probability. Tsugiyoshi can carry out a hundred different choices at once, then select which course of events becomes reality. For example, if he were playing rock-paper-scissors, he could throw rock, paper, and scissors at the same time. Should he settle on rock, then reality acts as if he never tried paper or scissors. If you considered the power as predicting the future one hundred different ways and then selecting one of them, you’d be fairly close, but for two major differences: the predictions are based on actions of his choosing, and he experiences every one. If time is like a flowchart, he can test one hundred of its forked paths, then choose whichever route he likes the best. This may seem a bit like cheating, but most paths end up being largely similar, and simultaneously experiencing one hundred potential realities comes with a heavy mental burden—in other words, it’s exhausting. The discarded paths are remembered only by him (with some exceptions), but he doesn’t have perfect recall—one hundred different experiences make for too much to retain completely. Another major downside is the potential for experiencing a hundred times more failures. He can confess his feelings to a crush in one hundred different ways and be spurned each and every time. (Once, he had to suffer through being dumped one hundred times simultaneously.) Ultimately, Tsugiyoshi considers his ability not much good for anything except playing rock-paper-scissors—but he was chosen for the Zodiac War despite his young age because he possessed a hundred times more combat experience than typically afforded by the actual number of battles he’d seen. He tried to escape being selected for the Zodiac War, but of the hundred paths, not even one was successful. His experiences have taught him that there is no one correct path in life, and that even if the concept of truth exists, there’s no one right answer. This learning has given him a distinctly philosophical personality. The only time he gets excited is when he’s eating cheese—no two cheeses taste the same.' |
TsundeReaper said: I really thought Rat's ability is spacial manipulation since he sneak in and out in Horse's hiding place, don't see how precognition allows him to do that Anyway he's very OP, his ability I mean, don't get why people saying he's actually weak after this, well he is weak physically and in CQC but overall OP with an OP ability I think they're planning on reviving the others? I guess coz nothing seems impossible for the organizers Nezumi's ability doesn't involve precognition? Was that what you were thinking? |
| I knew Nezumi would turn out to be the winner -- Ox and Rabbit were hyped up from the very first episode to be the strongest characters who would likely win; therefore, either Ox or Rabbit winning would have been a "boring" ending. Also, Nezumi did literally nothing the entire series, so he would have been a waste of a character if he did nothing to change anything; therefore, having Nezumi the underdog win was the more "interesting" route. However, this somewhat-predictable ending was surprisingly well written. They actually gave a satisfactory answer to why Nezumi was doing nothing this entire time. He has the ability to see the future along 100 different routes; so as the weakest warrior, it made sense to sit back and wait it out until the end to act. I'm very torn as to what I should rate this series... (a) I started watching this show with flat zero expectations. A battle royale series that exists just for the sake of having a battle royale?-- I was expecting this to be trash with a little action sprinkled in, but watched anyway. (b) The first episode blows my expectations out of the water-- very little exposition was needed; we fairly quickly get a good high action scene; there was a decent balance between character backstory and present-day scenes; and the character who the audience assumes is the "main character" is immediately killed to prove the point that there is no main character in this series. (c) After an amazing first episode, the show quickly falls apart. Characters start to die in anticlimactic ways in a matter of seconds; characters die before their unique abilities or plans are put to good use; character backstories / flashbacks started taking up the entire episode runtime, most of which did not contribute anything and were forgettable. (d) Then the ending is somehow able to pull it back together and we had a decent episode this week (imo). And the writers were even brave enough not to take a cop-out ending-- we were given a definite winner to the war; the winner was not one of the "obvious" picks; and telling from the final episode preview, we will even get an answer to what what Nezumi's wish will be. |
~my listm-i-c-h-a-e-l said: However, this somewhat-predictable ending was surprisingly well written. They actually gave a satisfactory answer to why Nezumi was doing nothing this entire time. He has the ability to see the future along 100 different routes; so as the weakest warrior, it made sense to sit back and wait it out until the end to act. Nezumi doesn't have the ability to see the future. He creates and experiences 100 probabilities all at the same time and choose he wants to turn into reality. |
| This anime had 99 realities where it was good, but we got the one where it's shit. |
staranise said: same thing, different mechanicsNezumi doesn't have the ability to see the future. He creates and experiences 100 probabilities all at the same time and choose he wants to turn into reality. |
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