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Dec 8, 2017 10:53 AM
#1
Dec 8, 2017 11:04 AM
#2
You watch Gigguk, you are not at the end. |
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Dec 8, 2017 11:07 AM
#3
Rather than anime, everything has become shit like those fucking real world politics which has become a joke. |
Dec 8, 2017 11:20 AM
#4
Watching Gigguk falls into the "not giving a fuck anymore" part, don't you think? |
Dec 8, 2017 11:21 AM
#5
Another thread inspired by an anime youtube ? |
Dec 8, 2017 11:24 AM
#6
youseiki said: Rather than anime, everything has become shit like those fucking real world politics which has become a joke. Politics was always a joke. Especially the inherent greediness of people which is sickening. |
Dec 8, 2017 11:27 AM
#7
Last stage more or less. Kind disturbing how much this was how my 4 years of anime has been. :D (okay not the hentai and waifu shit) |
Dec 8, 2017 11:29 AM
#8
Swagernator said: Another thread inspired by an anime youtube ? Yeah, need them clicks man. They make me feel alive |
Dec 8, 2017 11:30 AM
#9
On the contrary, watching Gigguk means that you still give a fuck. You care about he or other anime fans think. I haven't given a fuck recently so I haven't watched his pointless videos or Digibro unless for some thread like this just be reminded why I stopped watching them. This one in particular is like watching someone tell your horoscope, just a bunch of generalization and stereotypes everyone can relate to with some bits of humor because being serious might displease some fans. |
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Dec 8, 2017 11:35 AM
#11
Darek said: Got bored half way through, what stage is the "The anime community is shit and you are all part of the cancer" attitude? The "2Edgy4Me" stage ------------ |
Dec 8, 2017 11:38 AM
#12
Oh no, that thing is over 9 minutes long. *skips to minute 8 something* and there I hear: "No longer giving a fuck." I don't understand the meaning of "no longer"? :o |
Dec 8, 2017 11:40 AM
#13
Darek said: Katsuo_ said: Edgy is a retarded buzzword and a shitty meme. I am way above that.Darek said: Got bored half way through, what stage is the "The anime community is shit and you are all part of the cancer" attitude? The "2Edgy4Me" stage ------------ It is. But it did fit for your response |
Dec 8, 2017 11:40 AM
#14
Never actually watched a Gigguk video. Pretty standard; exactly what I expected. I guess this cycle would apply to most anime watchers, hence why Gigguk is so popular. Personally, I started in the void stage and have stayed there for the past 3 or so years. Never was a casual, but never developed a taste, lel. |
Dec 8, 2017 11:41 AM
#15
zal said: On the contrary, watching Gigguk means that you still give a fuck. You care about he or other anime fans think. I haven't given a fuck recently so I haven't watched his pointless videos or Digibro unless for some thread like this just be reminded why I stopped watching them. This one in particular is like watching someone tell your horoscope, just a bunch of generalization and stereotypes everyone can relate to with some bits of humor because being serious might displease some fans. You kind of bent that to your advantage there. It says watching EVERYTHING and not caring what others think about you watching EVERYTHING, and not going around bashing others for their taste. Thus I don't really care about you looking down on me for watching gigguk, for that reason. |
Dec 8, 2017 11:41 AM
#16
Dec 8, 2017 11:47 AM
#17
[quote=Darek message=53300668] Katsuo_ said: Literally what about it fits my response? My response is taking a shit on the typoe of people who say those things among other bullshit.Darek said: Katsuo_ said: Darek said: Got bored half way through, what stage is the "The anime community is shit and you are all part of the cancer" attitude? The "2Edgy4Me" stage ------------ It is. But it did fit for your response Im just messing with ya dude xD Edit: fucked up the quote btw lol |
Dec 8, 2017 11:58 AM
#18
I have gone through these cycles but sometimes I go back to caring damn. I must reach true nirvana. |
The anime community in a nutshell. |
Dec 8, 2017 12:04 PM
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Dec 8, 2017 12:05 PM
#20
I don't think I'll ever regress to liking anything as bad as Elfen Lied but if that day does happen please just fucking kill me |
Dec 8, 2017 12:09 PM
#21
please summarize these videos so i don't have to give these people a view |
Dec 8, 2017 12:11 PM
#22
Kittens-kun said: Here's a word of advice: Don't make a thread about an anime Youtuber on MAL. A lot of people on this site seem to have a grudge against them for basically no reason. You're not really going to get a genuine discussion out of them. Yeah, I know these people hate gigguk and the likes, because they trash the whole anime watching community AKA the people of mal. Bunch of weebs, really. KawaiiSlowpoke said: I don't think I'll ever regress to liking anything as bad as Elfen Lied but if that day does happen please just fucking kill me Yeah, it was a mess, although I love the premise of the show. Zeruk said: Never found myself in any of the stages. Guess I'm a confirmed snowflake *yet |
Dec 8, 2017 12:11 PM
#23
EcchiKingMamster said: please summarize these videos so i don't have to give these people a view Or, you could just not be lazy and watch it yourself. |
Dec 8, 2017 12:12 PM
#24
The premise was interesting but they executed it poorly and it was more fucking just like "what the fuck is actually going on in this shit" |
Dec 8, 2017 12:16 PM
#25
Kittens-kun said: EcchiKingMamster said: please summarize these videos so i don't have to give these people a view Or, you could just not be lazy and watch it yourself. i don't watch anime youtubers minus the odd theanimeman video.. and i honestly don't watch very much anime content on youtube in general oh well.. i watch pretty much the same type of anime i've always been and i've only increased the amount |
Dec 8, 2017 12:16 PM
#26
EcchiKingMamster said: please summarize these videos so i don't have to give these people a view Don't worry, their real income is from patreon, not from you watching one of their videos then leave :) :) |
Dec 8, 2017 12:18 PM
#27
oryouohagi said: EcchiKingMamster said: please summarize these videos so i don't have to give these people a view Don't worry, their real income is from patreon, not from you watching one of their videos then leave :) :) i pretty much stopped watching anime youtubers and just decided to keep it up lol, i so i refuse, idc how they make money |
Dec 8, 2017 12:20 PM
#28
EcchiKingMamster said: oryouohagi said: EcchiKingMamster said: please summarize these videos so i don't have to give these people a view Don't worry, their real income is from patreon, not from you watching one of their videos then leave :) :) i pretty much stopped watching anime youtubers and just decided to keep it up lol, i so i refuse, idc how they make money No one loses anything at the end of the day, or so it seems. |
Dec 8, 2017 12:23 PM
#29
oryouohagi said: EcchiKingMamster said: oryouohagi said: EcchiKingMamster said: please summarize these videos so i don't have to give these people a view Don't worry, their real income is from patreon, not from you watching one of their videos then leave :) :) i pretty much stopped watching anime youtubers and just decided to keep it up lol, i so i refuse, idc how they make money No one loses anything at the end of the day, or so it seems. nevermind lol.. all im trying to say is that i don't watch anime youtubers anymore, minus the odd theanimeman video.. then again, i don't really watch any similar non anime channels |
Dec 8, 2017 12:27 PM
#30
nope it makes u a pleb who thinks they dont give a fuck |
Dec 8, 2017 12:29 PM
#31
A thread about Gigguk's new boring (just like most of his works) video? Meh... |
Dec 8, 2017 12:32 PM
#32
moodie said: nope it makes u a pleb who thinks they dont give a fuck Yeah, idc EcchiKingMamster said: oryouohagi said: EcchiKingMamster said: oryouohagi said: EcchiKingMamster said: please summarize these videos so i don't have to give these people a view Don't worry, their real income is from patreon, not from you watching one of their videos then leave :) :) i pretty much stopped watching anime youtubers and just decided to keep it up lol, i so i refuse, idc how they make money No one loses anything at the end of the day, or so it seems. nevermind lol.. all im trying to say is that i don't watch anime youtubers anymore, minus the odd theanimeman video.. then again, i don't really watch any similar non anime channels Yes, I get what you are saying, but it's not like you can't make an exception, altough it's not my business. |
Dec 8, 2017 12:35 PM
#33
why are you watching anime youtuber? your own opinion is as good (shit) as them. |
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Dec 8, 2017 12:38 PM
#34
Man that guy was on point. I got to the point my ptw list just kept building, and went back to shounen anime watching |
Dec 8, 2017 12:40 PM
#35
GangsterCat said: why are you watching anime youtuber? your own opinion is as good (shit) as them. Because everyone on this site seems to hate anime youtubers, and it's common sense on the interwebz that mal society has shit for taste. |
Dec 8, 2017 1:06 PM
#36
oryouohagi said: Well, that was an amusing excuse to listen to selections from Tchaikovsky's "The Nutcracker".So Gigguk-sama uploaded this video moments ago. Where do you think you are at the cycle? I think I'm kind of at the end, and think I have always have been. I never really cared about taste and stuff, I love shitty harem shows. What about you? Anyway, while that cycle may apply to some people I'm not sure it applies to me. The beginning of it kinda does -- the "gateway series" effect, specifically, where I watched Evangelion with some prodding, which made me open to watching some shows, then accidentally discovered Kiddy Grade, which made me really interested in talking about it and also taking recs from friends...only some of which turned out to be things I actually liked. The thing about having a "void" that one wants to fill is...somewhat but only somewhat true, in my case. I did watch more anime hoping to find more stuff like Kiddy Grade (with characters I could come to know and love and look up to and even interpret as symbols and icons as sources of inspiration when looking at their stories in a perspective not unlike what people apply to religious parables), and I ended up watching a few other series that were substantially different but instead also became other things I really liked (I've lately started using Stratos 4 as a model for plot pacing, actually, after years of not thinking about it much but then realizing that it really was very satisfying and memorable). Of course I also did watch some things I didn't enjoy as much, and so naturally, one could say I started to develop "taste" at this point. Except...I kinda already had tastes coming in. As a kid, I didn't like DBZ but did like Pokémon and Voltron and also always wanted to check out Digimon except I never got the chance to, and I had a mixed opinion of Sailor Moon. This, on top of all the opinions I already had about videogames. So clearly it's not like my taste in anime developed from some blank slate. There are several pretty consistent themes throughout my lifetime: * a love of music, rich musical scores, and memorable, iconic themes that crystallize dramatic and emotional moments * an appreciation for genuine, earnest drama, even if it's "cliché", as long as it "feels right" * a general distaste for fanservice, gratuitous sexuality, and playing to stereotypes (gender or otherwise) in general, but instead... * a general taste for seeing people as individuals with distinct personalities and profiles, and an interest in seeing how a story tells "everyone's story" and an empathy for everyone's emotions In Gigguk's terms, I seem to have reached the "higher state of being" without actually going through the stage of consuming a huge amount of anime, either by interest or by social obligation. Instead, I plodded along with my (what I've learned is apparently a peculiarly slow) pace of watching things, and never really strayed from my original tastes very much. Maybe I just didn't hang out enough with dedicated anime fans, or maybe I hung out with the "wrong" fans, or maybe it's because I actually was old enough when I started getting into anime outside of typical broadcast TV show offerings that I already had my tastes. And then on top of that this wasn't a hobby that I really used much for socializing -- I already had a social life elsewhere, and even amongst my hobbies I would more typically socialize over videogames than anime, and I was already part of small but dedicated fandoms for such things as the SNES Final Fantasy games, the classic and X series Mega Man games, the Metroid games, the Castlevania games, and so on. (Similarly, Gigguk's "anime puberty" never applied to me, as I never really found anything notably interesting/wrong/whatever with finding fictional characters attractive.) Some of Gigguk's stages really seem to be pretty specific to the so-to-speak hardcore anime fandom. Like, watching seasonals and declaring waifus, these are really behaviors that have a lot more meaning when you're doing them as part of a social group where you get to discuss stuff, swear allegiance to a series or make a big deal of it when you drop something, and so on. If you're like me and you actually prefer watching anime in your own little bubble, only coming out to discuss stuff after you're done with it, well...first, I'd ask why you're here on this forum in the first place except I should ask that question to myself first (and the answer is generally "procrastination"), and then I'd guess that you'd probably find that following seasonal stuff really doesn't have much meaning. Like, I've sometimes felt "pressured" by people around me to go watch this show or that show already, it's the best show ever or the show that all anime fans "should" have watched or part of the anime fandom "core curriculum" or something, or it's because the "anime of the season" or "anime of the year". That's not to say I don't necessarily like the show -- I did watch Haruhi, for example, and appreciated it a lot, even the infamous Endless Eight -- I just don't like doing it for the express purpose of "because other people tell me I should", especially if it's not a show that I personally want to watch. I watch stuff because I'm interested in it, specifically, and if I'm feeling more curious about what happens in (for example) The Asterisk War than RahXephon, there's not much that can change that curiosity, short of The Asterisk War becoming patently offensive to me (which it might! but I won't know until I watch it). As for my own development, I think I went through the following stages: * casually/incidentally interested in anime series: e.g. watching Voltron and Pokémon as a kid * relatively new to anime, and willing to watch many things and also taking lots of recs from friends * seen some number of anime series, have a sense of what shows I like and don't like, but (and this is pretty important with regards to socializing about anime) realizing that people by and large aren't talking about/interested in those shows. In the meantime, I'm still freely browsing sites like MAL and picking up recs both from friends and from random sources (from MAL recs to "this theme song sounds cool! I wonder where it's from"). At this point, I basically had a choice: do I join the bandwagon of hardcore fandom and seasonal anime that some of my friends are on, or do I just keep doing my own thing? * I chose to keep doing my own thing, and here's where I am now. I've accepted that I'm not part of that hardcore fandom, I feel no obligation to watch seasonal anime, and I watch what I like, whenever I like it. I accept that this means that whatever I'm in the mood to talk about isn't necessarily going to be something that other people want to talk about, because nobody ever talks about Sky Girls or Yukikaze or Uta~Kata anymore (and even well-known or well-regarded series such as Haruhi, Cromartie, SZS, .hack//, Nodame Cantabile, and Eureka Seven are uncommon to find in conversation), and I'm also not going to fit in very well with the anime-watching crowd because I've seen neither the current shows nor some of the really famous ones (e.g. FMAB, Baccano, Death Note, AoT, Code Geass, SAO, Naruto, Bleach, etc.) that people use as cultural touchpoints (good and bad). But to figure out all this, I also learned about the anime fandom, the anime industry, and how I relate to all of it. I found my place, basically.. At this point, like Gigguk suggested somewhere in the video, I am actually at a similar place with regards to how I watch things -- I just watch whatever interests me and don't really base my choices on social demands. Though the difference is that I know a lot more now. I know, for example, I get a lot more attached to an individual story, while the anime fandom and industry more typically move quickly from story to story, to the point where I disagree with this sort of "commodification" of anime into just numbers on a page rather than distinct stars in the night sky, and I'm okay with obsessing over one thing at a time the way I do. And I also know how to turn down suggestions from friends politely, thanking them for thinking of me but also advising them that I've got a huge backlog and probably won't get to it anytime soon. |
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Dec 8, 2017 1:18 PM
#37
GlennMagusHarvey said: damn you just remind me about my essay. You just wrote more than my required word.oryouohagi said: Well, that was an amusing excuse to listen to selections from Tchaikovsky's "The Nutcracker".So Gigguk-sama uploaded this video moments ago. Where do you think you are at the cycle? I think I'm kind of at the end, and think I have always have been. I never really cared about taste and stuff, I love shitty harem shows. What about you? Anyway, while that cycle may apply to some people I'm not sure it applies to me. The beginning of it kinda does -- the "gateway series" effect, specifically, where I watched Evangelion with some prodding, which made me open to watching some shows, then accidentally discovered Kiddy Grade, which made me really interested in talking about it and also taking recs from friends...only some of which turned out to be things I actually liked. The thing about having a "void" that one wants to fill is...somewhat but only somewhat true, in my case. I did watch more anime hoping to find more stuff like Kiddy Grade (with characters I could come to know and love and look up to and even interpret as symbols and icons as sources of inspiration when looking at their stories in a perspective not unlike what people apply to religious parables), and I ended up watching a few other series that were substantially different but instead also became other things I really liked (I've lately started using Stratos 4 as a model for plot pacing, actually, after years of not thinking about it much but then realizing that it really was very satisfying and memorable). Of course I also did watch some things I didn't enjoy as much, and so naturally, one could say I started to develop "taste" at this point. Except...I kinda already had tastes coming in. As a kid, I didn't like DBZ but did like Pokémon and Voltron and also always wanted to check out Digimon except I never got the chance to, and I had a mixed opinion of Sailor Moon. This, on top of all the opinions I already had about videogames. So clearly it's not like my taste in anime developed from some blank slate. There are several pretty consistent themes throughout my lifetime: * a love of music, rich musical scores, and memorable, iconic themes that crystallize dramatic and emotional moments * an appreciation for genuine, earnest drama, even if it's "cliché", as long as it "feels right" * a general distaste for fanservice, gratuitous sexuality, and playing to stereotypes (gender or otherwise) in general, but instead... * a general taste for seeing people as individuals with distinct personalities and profiles, and an interest in seeing how a story tells "everyone's story" and an empathy for everyone's emotions In Gigguk's terms, I seem to have reached the "higher state of being" without actually going through the stage of consuming a huge amount of anime, either by interest or by social obligation. Instead, I plodded along with my (what I've learned is apparently a peculiarly slow) pace of watching things, and never really strayed from my original tastes very much. Maybe I just didn't hang out enough with dedicated anime fans, or maybe I hung out with the "wrong" fans, or maybe it's because I actually was old enough when I started getting into anime outside of typical broadcast TV show offerings that I already had my tastes. And then on top of that this wasn't a hobby that I really used much for socializing -- I already had a social life elsewhere, and even amongst my hobbies I would more typically socialize over videogames than anime, and I was already part of small but dedicated fandoms for such things as the SNES Final Fantasy games, the classic and X series Mega Man games, the Metroid games, the Castlevania games, and so on. (Similarly, Gigguk's "anime puberty" never applied to me, as I never really found anything notably interesting/wrong/whatever with finding fictional characters attractive.) Some of Gigguk's stages really seem to be pretty specific to the so-to-speak hardcore anime fandom. Like, watching seasonals and declaring waifus, these are really behaviors that have a lot more meaning when you're doing them as part of a social group where you get to discuss stuff, swear allegiance to a series or make a big deal of it when you drop something, and so on. If you're like me and you actually prefer watching anime in your own little bubble, only coming out to discuss stuff after you're done with it, well...first, I'd ask why you're here on this forum in the first place except I should ask that question to myself first (and the answer is generally "procrastination"), and then I'd guess that you'd probably find that following seasonal stuff really doesn't have much meaning. Like, I've sometimes felt "pressured" by people around me to go watch this show or that show already, it's the best show ever or the show that all anime fans "should" have watched or part of the anime fandom "core curriculum" or something, or it's because the "anime of the season" or "anime of the year". That's not to say I don't necessarily like the show -- I did watch Haruhi, for example, and appreciated it a lot, even the infamous Endless Eight -- I just don't like doing it for the express purpose of "because other people tell me I should", especially if it's not a show that I personally want to watch. I watch stuff because I'm interested in it, specifically, and if I'm feeling more curious about what happens in (for example) The Asterisk War than RahXephon, there's not much that can change that curiosity, short of The Asterisk War becoming patently offensive to me (which it might! but I won't know until I watch it). As for my own development, I think I went through the following stages: * casually/incidentally interested in anime series: e.g. watching Voltron and Pokémon as a kid * relatively new to anime, and willing to watch many things and also taking lots of recs from friends * seen some number of anime series, have a sense of what shows I like and don't like, but (and this is pretty important with regards to socializing about anime) realizing that people by and large aren't talking about/interested in those shows. In the meantime, I'm still freely browsing sites like MAL and picking up recs both from friends and from random sources (from MAL recs to "this theme song sounds cool! I wonder where it's from"). At this point, I basically had a choice: do I join the bandwagon of hardcore fandom and seasonal anime that some of my friends are on, or do I just keep doing my own thing? * I chose to keep doing my own thing, and here's where I am now. I've accepted that I'm not part of that hardcore fandom, I feel no obligation to watch seasonal anime, and I watch what I like, whenever I like it. I accept that this means that whatever I'm in the mood to talk about isn't necessarily going to be something that other people want to talk about, because nobody ever talks about Sky Girls or Yukikaze or Uta~Kata anymore (and even well-known or well-regarded series such as Haruhi, Cromartie, SZS, .hack//, Nodame Cantabile, and Eureka Seven are uncommon to find in conversation), and I'm also not going to fit in very well with the anime-watching crowd because I've seen neither the current shows nor some of the really famous ones (e.g. FMAB, Baccano, Death Note, AoT, Code Geass, SAO, Naruto, Bleach, etc.) that people use as cultural touchpoints (good and bad). But to figure out all this, I also learned about the anime fandom, the anime industry, and how I relate to all of it. I found my place, basically.. At this point, like Gigguk suggested somewhere in the video, I am actually at a similar place with regards to how I watch things -- I just watch whatever interests me and don't really base my choices on social demands. Though the difference is that I know a lot more now. I know, for example, I get a lot more attached to an individual story, while the anime fandom and industry more typically move quickly from story to story, to the point where I disagree with this sort of "commodification" of anime into just numbers on a page rather than distinct stars in the night sky, and I'm okay with obsessing over one thing at a time the way I do. And I also know how to turn down suggestions from friends politely, thanking them for thinking of me but also advising them that I've got a huge backlog and probably won't get to it anytime soon. |
CrossAnge Hey guys check my profile for current airing season anime recommendation (guaranteed best taste) |
Dec 8, 2017 1:22 PM
#38
GangsterCat said: Don't worry, everyone's bad at writing stuff they actually need to write. I didn't need to write this, and I could just pretty much run on stream-of-consciousness, and I had no demands that this be well-organized or well-supported or whatever. That's why it was easy and I did it even though I wouldn't expect myself to have done it.damn you just remind me about my essay. You just wrote more than my required word. |
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Dec 8, 2017 2:05 PM
#40
GlennMagusHarvey said: oryouohagi said: Well, that was an amusing excuse to listen to selections from Tchaikovsky's "The Nutcracker".So Gigguk-sama uploaded this video moments ago. Where do you think you are at the cycle? I think I'm kind of at the end, and think I have always have been. I never really cared about taste and stuff, I love shitty harem shows. What about you? Anyway, while that cycle may apply to some people I'm not sure it applies to me. The beginning of it kinda does -- the "gateway series" effect, specifically, where I watched Evangelion with some prodding, which made me open to watching some shows, then accidentally discovered Kiddy Grade, which made me really interested in talking about it and also taking recs from friends...only some of which turned out to be things I actually liked. The thing about having a "void" that one wants to fill is...somewhat but only somewhat true, in my case. I did watch more anime hoping to find more stuff like Kiddy Grade (with characters I could come to know and love and look up to and even interpret as symbols and icons as sources of inspiration when looking at their stories in a perspective not unlike what people apply to religious parables), and I ended up watching a few other series that were substantially different but instead also became other things I really liked (I've lately started using Stratos 4 as a model for plot pacing, actually, after years of not thinking about it much but then realizing that it really was very satisfying and memorable). Of course I also did watch some things I didn't enjoy as much, and so naturally, one could say I started to develop "taste" at this point. Except...I kinda already had tastes coming in. As a kid, I didn't like DBZ but did like Pokémon and Voltron and also always wanted to check out Digimon except I never got the chance to, and I had a mixed opinion of Sailor Moon. This, on top of all the opinions I already had about videogames. So clearly it's not like my taste in anime developed from some blank slate. There are several pretty consistent themes throughout my lifetime: * a love of music, rich musical scores, and memorable, iconic themes that crystallize dramatic and emotional moments * an appreciation for genuine, earnest drama, even if it's "cliché", as long as it "feels right" * a general distaste for fanservice, gratuitous sexuality, and playing to stereotypes (gender or otherwise) in general, but instead... * a general taste for seeing people as individuals with distinct personalities and profiles, and an interest in seeing how a story tells "everyone's story" and an empathy for everyone's emotions In Gigguk's terms, I seem to have reached the "higher state of being" without actually going through the stage of consuming a huge amount of anime, either by interest or by social obligation. Instead, I plodded along with my (what I've learned is apparently a peculiarly slow) pace of watching things, and never really strayed from my original tastes very much. Maybe I just didn't hang out enough with dedicated anime fans, or maybe I hung out with the "wrong" fans, or maybe it's because I actually was old enough when I started getting into anime outside of typical broadcast TV show offerings that I already had my tastes. And then on top of that this wasn't a hobby that I really used much for socializing -- I already had a social life elsewhere, and even amongst my hobbies I would more typically socialize over videogames than anime, and I was already part of small but dedicated fandoms for such things as the SNES Final Fantasy games, the classic and X series Mega Man games, the Metroid games, the Castlevania games, and so on. (Similarly, Gigguk's "anime puberty" never applied to me, as I never really found anything notably interesting/wrong/whatever with finding fictional characters attractive.) Some of Gigguk's stages really seem to be pretty specific to the so-to-speak hardcore anime fandom. Like, watching seasonals and declaring waifus, these are really behaviors that have a lot more meaning when you're doing them as part of a social group where you get to discuss stuff, swear allegiance to a series or make a big deal of it when you drop something, and so on. If you're like me and you actually prefer watching anime in your own little bubble, only coming out to discuss stuff after you're done with it, well...first, I'd ask why you're here on this forum in the first place except I should ask that question to myself first (and the answer is generally "procrastination"), and then I'd guess that you'd probably find that following seasonal stuff really doesn't have much meaning. Like, I've sometimes felt "pressured" by people around me to go watch this show or that show already, it's the best show ever or the show that all anime fans "should" have watched or part of the anime fandom "core curriculum" or something, or it's because the "anime of the season" or "anime of the year". That's not to say I don't necessarily like the show -- I did watch Haruhi, for example, and appreciated it a lot, even the infamous Endless Eight -- I just don't like doing it for the express purpose of "because other people tell me I should", especially if it's not a show that I personally want to watch. I watch stuff because I'm interested in it, specifically, and if I'm feeling more curious about what happens in (for example) The Asterisk War than RahXephon, there's not much that can change that curiosity, short of The Asterisk War becoming patently offensive to me (which it might! but I won't know until I watch it). As for my own development, I think I went through the following stages: * casually/incidentally interested in anime series: e.g. watching Voltron and Pokémon as a kid * relatively new to anime, and willing to watch many things and also taking lots of recs from friends * seen some number of anime series, have a sense of what shows I like and don't like, but (and this is pretty important with regards to socializing about anime) realizing that people by and large aren't talking about/interested in those shows. In the meantime, I'm still freely browsing sites like MAL and picking up recs both from friends and from random sources (from MAL recs to "this theme song sounds cool! I wonder where it's from"). At this point, I basically had a choice: do I join the bandwagon of hardcore fandom and seasonal anime that some of my friends are on, or do I just keep doing my own thing? * I chose to keep doing my own thing, and here's where I am now. I've accepted that I'm not part of that hardcore fandom, I feel no obligation to watch seasonal anime, and I watch what I like, whenever I like it. I accept that this means that whatever I'm in the mood to talk about isn't necessarily going to be something that other people want to talk about, because nobody ever talks about Sky Girls or Yukikaze or Uta~Kata anymore (and even well-known or well-regarded series such as Haruhi, Cromartie, SZS, .hack//, Nodame Cantabile, and Eureka Seven are uncommon to find in conversation), and I'm also not going to fit in very well with the anime-watching crowd because I've seen neither the current shows nor some of the really famous ones (e.g. FMAB, Baccano, Death Note, AoT, Code Geass, SAO, Naruto, Bleach, etc.) that people use as cultural touchpoints (good and bad). But to figure out all this, I also learned about the anime fandom, the anime industry, and how I relate to all of it. I found my place, basically.. At this point, like Gigguk suggested somewhere in the video, I am actually at a similar place with regards to how I watch things -- I just watch whatever interests me and don't really base my choices on social demands. Though the difference is that I know a lot more now. I know, for example, I get a lot more attached to an individual story, while the anime fandom and industry more typically move quickly from story to story, to the point where I disagree with this sort of "commodification" of anime into just numbers on a page rather than distinct stars in the night sky, and I'm okay with obsessing over one thing at a time the way I do. And I also know how to turn down suggestions from friends politely, thanking them for thinking of me but also advising them that I've got a huge backlog and probably won't get to it anytime soon. I would like to read this, but I'm still only in my twenties. |
Dec 8, 2017 2:09 PM
#41
I forgot what its call but I'm at the point where I'm not even sure I like anime anymore since everything I watch, I just feel very disinterested. |
Dec 8, 2017 2:10 PM
#42
At this point I watch most things on a whim, and I don't try to understand what I like or why. But finding something I really enjoy to the point where I indulge as much as I can as quickly as possible is pretty rare, but when it happens it's great! |
Dec 8, 2017 2:22 PM
#43
Im most likely outside the cycle since ive ascended to source material godhood |
Dec 8, 2017 2:34 PM
#44
Dec 8, 2017 2:49 PM
#45
SuperRed said: True enlightenment is when you accept you are cancer and be cancerous with this shitty community. We are all that.I guess I have reached the last stage since I added To Love-Ru to my favorites recently. Right @Darek @LofnEdda? |
𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔱𝔬𝔲𝔠𝔥 𝔶𝔬𝔲, 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔫' 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔪𝔶 𝔪𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱 ______________________ |
Dec 8, 2017 2:57 PM
#46
oryouohagi said: GlennMagusHarvey said: [GIANT POST WAS HERE] I would like to read this, but I'm still only in my twenties. TL;DR version of my giant post: 1. Gigguk's video gets some things right, especially the beginnings, but some of them seem to be specifically for people who are hardcore fans who socialize over anime. 2. I went from "newbie" to some intermediate stage where I had to choose whether to keep watching what I liked and "not giving a fuck" vs. keeping up with what some friends on the internet were watching. 3. I chose to continue not giving a fuck, even though I know it means I can't talk anime to other people as easily. So I sorta bypassed the "watch massive amounts of anime", "watch seasonal anime", and "fret over tastes" stages. 4. He's got an interesting point in saying that one ends up roughly where one kinda started. I can see that about myself, except I know a lot more about the fandom and the industry. 5. Actually I don't think I really went through "tastes development" much. My tastes have actually been pretty consistent through all of this, even since childhood, heck. |
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Dec 8, 2017 3:59 PM
#47
I am on the side of no longer give a fuck. Not the true acceptance because that would be like accepting to consume something i dislike aka shit unless i am currently interested to consume shit. Why should i even bother anymore about people saying don't watch this or you should watch this. Let me watch whatever i want. Also i don't think i am an anime true fan, i never really interested in those poster or figurines, i don't mind buying it but i never did. My money went to game.. which pretty much JRPG, least in game I'll be able to experience with my own pacing or route. I am interested to buy LN and Manga but ordering it from outside and sometimes the source doesn't seems promising making me meh, maybe not now i already busy to begin with. |
Dec 8, 2017 4:11 PM
#48
Never followed this cycle, because I never had shit taste. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
Dec 8, 2017 4:15 PM
#49
GangsterCat said: why are you watching anime youtuber? your own opinion is as good (shit) as them. I wonder the same, maybe some people lack opinions and need an idol to copy from. ugh. Then sometimes someone asks why there is lack of critical thinking, maybe because there is lack of thinking. |
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