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Hi all, I've been looking for an outlet to vent my frustration at the show. I'm sorry if what I say is beating a dead horse.

Gonna preempt all of this with a disclaimer: I'm the type that gets suckered into Shounen, and I'm not the type to care about animation quality/music/voice acting unless they are really bad.

To begin, the comparison to other Shounen, specifically Naruto, is evident from episode 1. Here you have the peppy (annoying) protagonist and his cold emotionless rival. Our protagonist's only purpose in life is to gain some arbitrary title and the respect that goes with it, in this case the title of Magic Hokage. Well, if we're being honest there's a second more unique driving force behind our protagonist, the desire to marry a nun (SISTA RIRI!!! KEKKON SHIMASHOU!!!!).

What else do we have? How about some Fairy Tail rip-offs. Not even 10 episodes in we've seen we equivalents to Natsu, Grey, Juvia, Ersa (surprisingly) and arguably Lucy. Not to mention that the Black Bulls is basically the Fairy Tail guild with Cana and Gildarts archetypes (among others). Heck the only thing it's missing is an adorkable talking sidekick (mark my words...soon...).

The show sets up the viewer to have these shows in mind while watching, but when the obvious comparison is made, it's just...bad. I keep getting the feeling that they are trying hard to set something up. They want us to slog through hours of back story until we get to the meat of the issue. Both Naruto and Fairy Tail had relatively simple opening arcs that revolved around action more than it did plot. Most shounen try to familiarize you with the world and it's characters before jumping into the plot, but Black Clover seems to be barreling through all semblance of character development straight into the thick of things.

Few other things. Why do shounen writers thing people like annoying characters? I've pretty much given up on ever completing Naruto because of his immaturity. Naruto is at his best when he doesn't act like a complete a-hole all the time. Asta is unredeemable from his voice to his personality.

Also why does everyone act like they have a stick up their arse? It's not interesting to watch everyone talk about how much better they are because they are rich or because they're older or whatever. I get the whole "rich get richer poor get poorer" motif is a cornerstone of the show, I'm just saying it makes for uninteresting drama.

I'll probably watch it as it comes out, mostly because I need more stuff to watch and it's easy watching, but unless it takes a 180 I don't see this becoming anything but a failed knockoff. As it is it looks more like a Naruto fanfic than a unique title.
 
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I think I'm gonna drop, I got to about ep 6. There's no depth, characters are totally one dimensional and the magic system seems pretty braindead. I had higher hopes after the first couple episodes but it's been downhill from there.
 
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Battlefront228 said:
Hi all, I've been looking for an outlet to vent my frustration at the show. I'm sorry if what I say is beating a dead horse.

Gonna preempt all of this with a disclaimer: I'm the type that gets suckered into Shounen, and I'm not the type to care about animation quality/music/voice acting unless they are really bad.

To begin, the comparison to other Shounen, specifically Naruto, is evident from episode 1. Here you have the peppy (annoying) protagonist and his cold emotionless rival. Our protagonist's only purpose in life is to gain some arbitrary title and the respect that goes with it, in this case the title of Magic Hokage. Well, if we're being honest there's a second more unique driving force behind our protagonist, the desire to marry a nun (SISTA RIRI!!! KEKKON SHIMASHOU!!!!).

What else do we have? How about some Fairy Tail rip-offs. Not even 10 episodes in we've seen we equivalents to Natsu, Grey, Juvia, Ersa (surprisingly) and arguably Lucy. Not to mention that the Black Bulls is basically the Fairy Tail guild with Cana and Gildarts archetypes (among others). Heck the only thing it's missing is an adorkable talking sidekick (mark my words...soon...).

The show sets up the viewer to have these shows in mind while watching, but when the obvious comparison is made, it's just...bad. I keep getting the feeling that they are trying hard to set something up. They want us to slog through hours of back story until we get to the meat of the issue. Both Naruto and Fairy Tail had relatively simple opening arcs that revolved around action more than it did plot. Most shounen try to familiarize you with the world and it's characters before jumping into the plot, but Black Clover seems to be barreling through all semblance of character development straight into the thick of things.

Few other things. Why do shounen writers thing people like annoying characters? I've pretty much given up on ever completing Naruto because of his immaturity. Naruto is at his best when he doesn't act like a complete a-hole all the time. Asta is unredeemable from his voice to his personality.

Also why does everyone act like they have a stick up their arse? It's not interesting to watch everyone talk about how much better they are because they are rich or because they're older or whatever. I get the whole "rich get richer poor get poorer" motif is a cornerstone of the show, I'm just saying it makes for uninteresting drama.

I'll probably watch it as it comes out, mostly because I need more stuff to watch and it's easy watching, but unless it takes a 180 I don't see this becoming anything but a failed knockoff. As it is it looks more like a Naruto fanfic than a unique title.
And the point of this forum was?
Black Clover rip-off excuse is just another reason for edgelord to jump in the hate bandwagon . LITERALLY AL SHONEN ANIME ARE SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER .
-Fairy Tail a rip-off of One Piece
-MHA is a rip-off of Naruto
-HunterXHunter is a rip-off of Yu Yu Hakusho
- Or simply ALL SHONEN IS A RIP-OFF OF DRAGON BALL
This excuse is so dumb that it literrally lost it meaning

But I agree that Black Clover is similar to Fairy Tail . Even Shuiesha admit that it want a version of Kodansha Fairy Tail .
 
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Will stur up a long argument?!! Or will only a few Black Clover supporters come and back it up?!

Tune in to find out!
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@Battlefront228

>his cold emotionless rival

Yuno by no means heartless, heck, he help orphan as well interact with all of them normally like any other kids...

>Our protagonist's only purpose in life is to gain some arbitrary title

what?

>and the respect that goes with it

asta literaly saying that he want the prestige of magic emperror (not a wizrd king, since there iscountry king, i blame translation for that) to break social discrimination and repairing his orphan...

>we've seen we equivalents to Natsu, Grey, Juvia, Ersa (surprisingly) and arguably Lucy. Not to mention that the Black Bulls is basically the Fairy Tail guild with Cana and Gildarts archetypes (among others). Heck the only thing it's missing is an adorkable talking sidekick (mark my words...soon...).

where? also there will be the sidekick, she will be the most dangerous all of them...

>Both Naruto and Fairy Tail had relatively simple opening arcs that revolved around action more than it did plot. Most shounen try to familiarize you with the world and it's characters before jumping into the plot, but Black Clover seems to be barreling through all semblance of character development straight into the thick of things.

ehh... BC really stright to the point, they already part of knights... and doing knights works...

>Few other things. Why do shounen writers thing people like annoying characters? I've pretty much given up on ever completing Naruto because of his immaturity. Naruto is at his best when he doesn't act like a complete a-hole all the time. Asta is unredeemable from his voice to his personality.

this might surprise you, but the one who win character popularity in MHA is not deku but bakugou... that should talk much...

>Also why does everyone act like they have a stick up their arse? It's not interesting to watch everyone talk about how much better they are because they are rich or because they're older or whatever. I get the whole "rich get richer poor get poorer" motif is a cornerstone of the show, I'm just saying it makes for uninteresting drama.

because social discrimination is a very real thing and part of main plot in here... it will become more noticable later on...
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Do you require a tissue?
 
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Black Clover is clearly trying too hard to be like Naruto and Fairy Tail.
If you take two average series and try to emulate them, obviously you're going to end up with garbage. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I just can't trust someone who only have 1 post, especially if they made a "x is bad" thread like this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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'it's only bad when black clover does it'
Go back to youtube.
 
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renzospark said:
I just can't trust someone who only have 1 post, especially if they made a "x is bad" thread like this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I always think it says a lot when a person breaks their silence after months of lurking just to express how much they like/dislike something. Goes to say how passionate they feel about it.
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Can the forum mods just create an sticky at the top of the BC forums so we don't get one of these a week.
 
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+1 I agreed with every single word.
 
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@Shiroyasha_97 Is it accurate to say that HxH ripped off Yu Yu Hakusho? I get what you mean, especially when it comes to some characters having similar designs, but it kind of makes sense since they were created by the same guy. Not sure if that counts as a ripoff.....
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Who in Black Clover is similar to Gildart? And don't even compare Vanessa to Cana.
 
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Don't watch this kind of anime if u fool cuz this show is gonna be popular no matter what it better than boku no hero re zero and other new generation anime that why it get 52 EP anime and ps4 gaming as early as its get bcoz much more experience people know that this kind of anime will had an impact the people that work in anime Industry know much better than the weeb that doesn't stop complaining about this show
 
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gnuk79_Slayer said:
Don't watch this kind of anime if u fool cuz this show is gonna be popular no matter what it better than boku no hero re zero and other new generation anime that why it get 52 EP anime and ps4 gaming as early as its get bcoz much more experience people know that this kind of anime will had an impact the people that work in anime Industry know much better than the weeb that doesn't stop complaining about this show


I can't tell if your a troll or not especially because of your horrible grammar.

For one this series has over 50 starting episodes because the studio working on it are fans of the outdated production model of making any possibly profitable shonen anime a constant weekly thing which has long been proven to be a terrible way to make shows. Not because of any supposed quality.
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Black Clover is mediocre but not bad. People think unoriginality equals bad when shonens in general were never actually very original to begin with. Most had interesting concepts and beginnings in order to hook the viewer for a 100+ episode ride etc. Black Clover doesn't have any of those. It is just your average shounen with no identity or gimmick of its own to stand out from the crowd. People are simply overreacting cause they expected it to be the next Bleach or Naruto.
 
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Okay, but here I am wondering this one thing: why do people repeat that they see Yuno as a cold character? Pls. explain. o.o

 
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Okay, but here I am wondering this one thing: why do people repeat that they see Yuno as a cold character? Pls. explain. o.o


Cause he reminds them of Sasuke when they are nothing alike.
 
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gnuk79_Slayer said:
Don't watch this kind of anime if u fool cuz this show is gonna be popular no matter what it better than boku no hero re zero and other new generation anime that why it get 52 EP anime and ps4 gaming as early as its get bcoz much more experience people know that this kind of anime will had an impact the people that work in anime Industry know much better than the weeb that doesn't stop complaining about this show


I can't tell if your a troll or not especially because of your horrible grammar.

For one this series has over 50 starting episodes because the studio working on it are fans of the outdated production model of making any possibly profitable shonen anime a constant weekly thing which has long been proven to be a terrible way to make shows. Not because of any supposed quality.
the one you call outdated is the one who been working in this industry for decades some people who only been watching anime for year know which want is good the haters are getting ahead of themselves the one that doesn't even know how to produced anime and if u think they want to make profit they should make movie instead making an anime that weeb can watch free in web and TV and making anime is not profitable as the weeb think
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Okay, but here I am wondering this one thing: why do people repeat that they see Yuno as a cold character? Pls. explain. o.o

At the very start it seemed that way but a few eps later I see he's different, I like him a little bit more. TBH he'd probably be a better protagonist than Asta, Asta could be the annoying side kick.

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this might surprise you, but the one who win character popularity in MHA is not deku but bakugou... that should talk much...
Bakugou is a pretty good character, I tend to dislike the aggressive sort of characters but he does have some charisma and we find out there is depth to him. I find him excellent as a rival.

Deku was annoying early at the very start but steadily improved. If things were really boring for a long time maybe I might not have made it but thankfully All Might shows up almost right away and they pretty much waste no time. Rest of the cast is great and Deku becomes more likable later on.

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can watch free in web

Watch for free on the web!? But that would be illegal!
 
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[quote=VersusXV]
Maneki-Mew said:
Okay, but here I am wondering this one thing: why do people repeat that they see Yuno as a cold character? Pls. explain. o.o

At the very start it seemed that way but a few eps later I see he's different, I like him a little bit more. TBH he'd probably be a better protagonist than Asta, Asta could be the annoying side kick.

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@Battlefront228
this might surprise you, but the one who win character popularity in MHA is not deku but bakugou... that should talk much...
Bakugou is a pretty good character, I tend to dislike the aggressive sort of characters but he does have some charisma and we find out there is depth to him. I find him excellent as a rival.

Deku was annoying early at the very start but steadily improved. If things were really boring for a long time maybe I might not have made it but thankfully All Might shows up almost right away and they pretty much waste no time. Rest of the cast is great and Deku becomes more likable later on.

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gnuk79_Slayer said:
can watch free in web

Watch for free on the web!? But that would be illegal!
there are web that legal
 
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Maneki-Mew said:
Okay, but here I am wondering this one thing: why do people repeat that they see Yuno as a cold character? Pls. explain. o.o

At the very start it seemed that way but a few eps later I see he's different, I like him a little bit more. TBH he'd probably be a better protagonist than Asta, Asta could be the annoying side kick.

Kuma said:
@Battlefront228
this might surprise you, but the one who win character popularity in MHA is not deku but bakugou... that should talk much...
Bakugou is a pretty good character, I tend to dislike the aggressive sort of characters but he does have some charisma and we find out there is depth to him. I find him excellent as a rival.

Deku was annoying early at the very start but steadily improved. If things were really boring for a long time maybe I might not have made it but thankfully All Might shows up almost right away and they pretty much waste no time. Rest of the cast is great and Deku becomes more likable later on.

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gnuk79_Slayer said:
can watch free in web

Watch for free on the web!? But that would be illegal!
there are website that legal like crunchroll and Hulu to watch anime for free so u want to say that is illegal crunchroll even an app that why I said anime is not profitable and the hater that say the producer are greedy to make anime not true
 
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Hulu & Netflix are options but they are subscription based not free. I knew about crunchyroll but I thought it was subscription based? Maybe I'm out of the loop and they've changed it to a free with ads model which probably is a smarter move rather than trying to charge monthly fee and basically compete with Netflix.

These certainly are not illegal, they pay for the licensing rights to use the show I believe monthly which is why at monthly intervals shows/movies get added or removed on Netflix. But they've no doubt got stats on how many are watching particular show and for something like Black Clover I think most won't continue past first set of episodes especially when considering a mainstream audience, then Netflix would likely drop the series unless the fee is cheap.

I am very sure that for Dragonball, One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, etc it is very profitable. The licensing fees are certainly going to be a lot higher but viewership would also be high so it is worthwhile to keep them on there. I haven't used Netflix in a while but if I remember correctly they had Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach, SAO, Fairy Tail, Seven Deadly Sins, Neon Genesis Evangelion, maybe Attack on Titan? They had some of the movies as well like Battle of Gods, Resurrection F and I think some Naruto movies.

But it won't be profitable for mediocre/bad series since they'll have to lowball their price in order to get services to keep them around or else they risk getting dropped. Free with ads model would allow more room for shows like Black Clover because they could handle it kind of like Youtube and give them a share of ad revenue generated directly from people loading their episodes.
 
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For one this series has over 50 starting episodes because the studio working on it are fans of the outdated production model of making any possibly profitable shonen anime a constant weekly thing which has long been proven to be a terrible way to make shows. Not because of any supposed quality.


i don't agree with his opinion about popularity, but this is ignorance... weekly things is what most common people enjoy... tv with highest ratings always long run because they has something to look forward everyweek... the only exception is major, whihc using courly by 6 season stright with constant breaks... weekly series might suffer from production issue since making long run is really hard task, much more than courly series, but saying it doesn't works is simply false...

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@Battlefront228
this might surprise you, but the one who win character popularity in MHA is not deku but bakugou... that should talk much...
Bakugou is a pretty good character, I tend to dislike the aggressive sort of characters but he does have some charisma and we find out there is depth to him. I find him excellent as a rival.

Deku was annoying early at the very start but steadily improved. If things were really boring for a long time maybe I might not have made it but thankfully All Might shows up almost right away and they pretty much waste no time. Rest of the cast is great and Deku becomes more likable later on.


as people who up todate with manga, not really... bakugou simply sasuke that doesn't have motivation to be evil... he is jealous, very insecure, and really denial to blame others, when the problem lies in himself... the whole deku VS bakugou fight and the bully flashback prove that... i don't usually hate this kind of character, but the rivalries is the one that drivin me nuts... asta VS Yuno rivalries much more likeable because there is nothing nasty between them... both of them heavily respect each other, and barely has drama out of it... however, look like people simply like those kind of character, however for me, i can simply see bakugou as asshole...

I like deku from the start TBH... it's only hate it with"bending the future" things and how author keep abusing "you are not actually worthy" dramafest...
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as people who up todate with manga, not really... bakugou simply sasuke that doesn't have motivation to be evil... he is jealous, very insecure, and really denial to blame others, when the problem lies in himself... the whole deku VS bakugou fight and the bully flashback prove that... i don't usually hate this kind of character, but the rivalries is the one that drivin me nuts... asta VS Yuno rivalries much more likeable because there is nothing nasty between them... both of them heavily respect each other, and barely has drama out of it... however, look like people simply like those kind of character, however for me, i can simply see bakugou as asshole...

I like deku from the start TBH... it's only hate it with"bending the future" things and how author keep abusing "you are not actually worthy" dramafest...

@Kuma
Maybe I gotta rewatch BnH, I want to do writeup on this but can't remember every detail.


I don't hate sasuke but I found Bakugou to be better. I liked Deku from the start as well but understand the complaints somewhat when talking about Deku from first few episodes of season 1. After the events are underway he develops quickly and by Season 2 I'd say he's an excellent protagonist.

Asta vs Yuno rivalry is kinda funny for me because I like Yuno a bit more and dislike Asta.

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i don't agree with his opinion about popularity, but this is ignorance... weekly things is what most common people enjoy... tv with highest ratings always long run because they has something to look forward everyweek... the only exception is major, whihc using courly by 6 season stright with constant breaks... weekly series might suffer from production issue since making long run is really hard task, much more than courly series, but saying it doesn't works is simply false...

I think he is referring to the over 50 episodes planned part rather than following season format like ~12 episode/~24 episodes. It works but requires a lot IMO, especially since there aren't going to be any breaks, 50+ episode says to me it'll be airing virtually every week for an entire year whereas BnH takes breaks between seasons to let the manga proceed ahead and plan the next season. You need a lot of great materials, and a combination of a fantastic anime team + author involvement to really plan things out well. Think of FMA/FMA Brotherhood as example. I feel it should only be attempted when the source material is truly exceptional and in the hands of a truly exceptional anime team.
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Kuma said:
as people who up todate with manga, not really... bakugou simply sasuke that doesn't have motivation to be evil... he is jealous, very insecure, and really denial to blame others, when the problem lies in himself... the whole deku VS bakugou fight and the bully flashback prove that... i don't usually hate this kind of character, but the rivalries is the one that drivin me nuts... asta VS Yuno rivalries much more likeable because there is nothing nasty between them... both of them heavily respect each other, and barely has drama out of it... however, look like people simply like those kind of character, however for me, i can simply see bakugou as asshole...

I like deku from the start TBH... it's only hate it with"bending the future" things and how author keep abusing "you are not actually worthy" dramafest...

@Kuma
Maybe I gotta rewatch BnH, I want to do writeup on this but can't remember every detail.


I don't hate sasuke but I found Bakugou to be better. I liked Deku from the start as well but understand the complaints somewhat when talking about Deku from first few episodes of season 1. After the events are underway he develops quickly and by Season 2 I'd say he's an excellent protagonist.

Asta vs Yuno rivalry is kinda funny for me because I like Yuno a bit more and dislike Asta.


it's happened after anime TBH... yes, i admit that bakugou was redeeming himself in that time.... after that, smehow author set back his development because plot convinience...

also oh man, i don't know you will liking it or not, but author literaly
for that dramafest...

yes, asta supposed to be annoyng, but he will developed over the time too...

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I think he is referring to the over 50 episodes planned part rather than following season format like ~12 episode/~24 episodes. It works but requires a lot IMO, especially since there aren't going to be any breaks, 50+ episode says to me it'll be airing virtually every week for an entire year whereas BnH takes breaks between seasons to let the manga proceed ahead and plan the next season. You need a lot of great materials, and a combination of a fantastic anime team + author involvement to really plan things out well. Think of FMA/FMA Brotherhood as example. I feel it should only be attempted when the source material is truly exceptional and in the hands of a truly exceptional anime team.


the breaks in BnHA simply because production comitee simply wants it... there was a ruckus why they got anime adaptation soo early (they already anounced in 7th vol, and it revealed they already planned it from first volme) on soo short, because TOHO pushed it for game advertisement... since now it was sueisha that pushed it and for merchindise reason, it get better length because merchendise is not instant seling things like game...

FMA and HXH long run is exception since they are already famous series so they has lot of industry support to push it...
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Kuma said:
it's happened after anime TBH... yes, i admit that bakugou was redeeming himself in that time.... after that, smehow author set back his development because plot convinience...

TBH I kind of understand this. In anime it brought it out of him because it was a legit life or death situation, it will take more time for that kind of change to become permanent. It's fine unless he goes way backwards like regressing compared to where he was at the start.



It shows the potential development he can have over time.


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also oh man, i don't know you will liking it or not, but author literaly
for that dramafest...

@Kuma
Wow that sounds legit scary. I like everybody so losing any of them is a loss other than a few we're expecting.



I do wonder if I ought to go read the manga and find out so I can get used to it now.

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yes, asta supposed to be annoyng, but he will developed over the time too...


I guess we'll see. Problem with Asta is that Deku too was supposed to be annoying but he always had a sort of charm whereas I'm getting none of that from Asta. Same with part 1 Naruto, he always had a bit of charm. I guess it will indeed be pretty epic if they can make him as good as Deku.

That is one character arc I have never seen, a protagonist we dislike or for some people even hate then he wins us over and becomes really cool. They would become famous if they can somehow do this.


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I think he is referring to the over 50 episodes planned part rather than following season format like ~12 episode/~24 episodes. It works but requires a lot IMO, especially since there aren't going to be any breaks, 50+ episode says to me it'll be airing virtually every week for an entire year whereas BnH takes breaks between seasons to let the manga proceed ahead and plan the next season. You need a lot of great materials, and a combination of a fantastic anime team + author involvement to really plan things out well. Think of FMA/FMA Brotherhood as example. I feel it should only be attempted when the source material is truly exceptional and in the hands of a truly exceptional anime team.


the breaks in BnHA simply because production comitee simply wants it... there was a ruckus why they got anime adaptation soo early (they already anounced in 7th vol, and it revealed they already planned it from first volme) on soo short, because TOHO pushed it for game advertisement... since now it was sueisha that pushed it and for merchindise reason, it get better length because merchendise is not instant seling things like game...

FMA and HXH long run is exception since they are already famous series so they has lot of industry support to push it...[/quote]
Agreed, I feel a 50 episode plan is best only for cases like FMA and HXH. It's possible to make it work anyways but they're fighting the odds IMO, they had really better have some epic stories coming up.

I can see why this is really controversial. 51 episodes and literally a game too announced for brand new series. I wonder how all of this got approved? I think the manga would have to have some solid gold chapters to convince people to make a full PS4/PC game(Costs literally millions of dollars to develop & advertise) for it and give it 51 episodes rather than the usual 10-13 episode season for the anime to prove itself. This is unusual because typically they have to start out like BnH with just 1 season and basically hit a home run with it in order to get to continue.


But I can say with certainty that Black Clover has made me happy in one way. I just googled about this stuff and found out about the My Hero Academia: One’s Justice for PS4/Switch game! This is really exciting, I can't wait! They'd better do a good job with it.

I think I will give the show a bit more of a chance.
 
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Here come the fanboys that say "anyone who hate this show is just a hater waaaaaaaa"
 
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Here come the fanboys that say "anyone who hate this show is just a hater waaaaaaaa"

The trailer put up on Funimation's YouTube had this one guy in almost every comment saying "You're wrong Black Clover is amazing you just have shit taste I bet you enjoy the generic My Hero Academia!" Reading that mans comments made my day.
 
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the more people hate it the more I enjoy it. I just might end up giving it a 10 rating by the end of the first season...
 
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Here come the fanboys that say "anyone who hate this show is just a hater waaaaaaaa"


who? which one? where?
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Kuma said:
waifu_stealer said:
Here come the fanboys that say "anyone who hate this show is just a hater waaaaaaaa"


who? which one? where?


not on this thread exactly but there are alot elsewhere like in the "Black CLover is overhated" thread
 
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Kuma said:


who? which one? where?


not on this thread exactly but there are alot elsewhere like in the "Black CLover is overhated" thread


and the difference with other fans are?
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Kuma said:
waifu_stealer said:


not on this thread exactly but there are alot elsewhere like in the "Black CLover is overhated" thread


and the difference with other fans are?


sorry, dont understand your question
 
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Kuma said:


and the difference with other fans are?


sorry, dont understand your question


i mean, what'sthe difference BC fans with other series fans?
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Kuma said:
waifu_stealer said:


sorry, dont understand your question


i mean, what'sthe difference BC fans with other series fans?


nothing rly, I'm just saying diehard fanboys (and maybe even diehard haters) of any show are kinda cancerous
 
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Kuma said:


i mean, what'sthe difference BC fans with other series fans?


nothing rly, I'm just saying diehard fanboys (and maybe even diehard haters) of any show are kinda cancerous


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Kuma said:


i mean, what'sthe difference BC fans with other series fans?


nothing rly, I'm just saying diehard fanboys (and maybe even diehard haters) of any show are kinda cancerous


so, you are stating the obvious?

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I can see why this is really controversial. 51 episodes and literally a game too announced for brand new series. I wonder how all of this got approved? I think the manga would have to have some solid gold chapters to convince people to make a full PS4/PC game(Costs literally millions of dollars to develop & advertise) for it and give it 51 episodes rather than the usual 10-13 episode season for the anime to prove itself. This is unusual because typically they have to start out like BnH with just 1 season and basically hit a home run with it in order to get to continue.


But I can say with certainty that Black Clover has made me happy in one way. I just googled about this stuff and found out about the My Hero Academia: One’s Justice for PS4/Switch game! This is really exciting, I can't wait! They'd better do a good job with it.

I think I will give the show a bit more of a chance.


i think simply because BC look like something that don't make big dedicated fanbase... so they push long run so at least, they can get TV ratings and merchendise ads revenue... unlike BnHA that already sold like crazy even before anime, BC barely break 100K before anime anonced, but they ranked up decent In TOC... so it's more like WT or toriko case.... they sold low, but merchenndise sold like crazy... and long run is more provitable than short run for it...

BnHA game already made previously for 3ds released right after anime aired... this just get anounced after anime released... thanks to anime i guess...
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Kuma said:
waifu_stealer said:


nothing rly, I'm just saying diehard fanboys (and maybe even diehard haters) of any show are kinda cancerous


so, you are stating the obvious?


yeah? I don't understand why you are asking me these questions in the first place

 
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