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Shiroyasha_97 said: Figure .Many Western anime fans though that Asia like Gintama but that a different story . The Big 3 was a major hit in Malaysia and Indonesia with high TV rating. Thanks to Animax FMAB and FairyTail was also a hit . But Gintama never appear in their TV . So of course seeing an anime they never heard of rated higher than these shows triggered. I can see Fairy Tail 2018 rated with 10s while Gintama is 1s As a Malaysian I am ashamed of my Malaysian and Indonesian brothers . Yeah...me too. But for the ratings...it is still okay for me. Still high enough especially this season doesn't have so many great arcs. For me this is the weakest season after all though still good. And I found the director can handle the comedy better than before. They adapted not really amusing arcs but still can make me laugh. It is a good sign. Hopefully the last arc can be improved more. :) |
danangafnan said: They actually made the Police One Shot, and Excaliber entertaining compared to the mangaShiroyasha_97 said: Figure .Many Western anime fans though that Asia like Gintama but that a different story . The Big 3 was a major hit in Malaysia and Indonesia with high TV rating. Thanks to Animax FMAB and FairyTail was also a hit . But Gintama never appear in their TV . So of course seeing an anime they never heard of rated higher than these shows triggered. I can see Fairy Tail 2018 rated with 10s while Gintama is 1s As a Malaysian I am ashamed of my Malaysian and Indonesian brothers . Yeah...me too. But for the ratings...it is still okay for me. Still high enough especially this season doesn't have so many great arcs. For me this is the weakest season after all though still good. And I found the director can handle the comedy better than before. They adapted not really amusing arcs but still can make me laugh. It is a good sign. Hopefully the last arc can be improved more. :) |
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SenpaiJay98 said: danangafnan said: They actually made the Police One Shot, and Excaliber entertaining compared to the mangaYeah...me too. But for the ratings...it is still okay for me. Still high enough especially this season doesn't have so many great arcs. For me this is the weakest season after all though still good. And I found the director can handle the comedy better than before. They adapted not really amusing arcs but still can make me laugh. It is a good sign. Hopefully the last arc can be improved more. :) Yep, and the latest episode about idol was funny too. Maybe they use this season to train new director improving her comedy style. :) |
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danangafnan said: I would argue that the comedy was already good with her(the timing) like Farewell Shinseguemi's comedic timing was way too perfect at timesSenpaiJay98 said: They actually made the Police One Shot, and Excaliber entertaining compared to the manga Yep, and the latest episode about idol was funny too. Maybe they use this season to train new director improving her comedy style. :) |
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| IMHO it's easily the weakest Gintama season so far, the only truly top tier arc so far is the Homeless arc which was amazing. I mean, it's still Gintama, it's still REALLY good, but compared to other seasons it's just ok. Homeless Arc : 10/10 Other arcs this season : 8/10 or so. Note that i haven't watched after the Excalibur arc yet. I think i'll wait till all episodes are out before watching the rest. |
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| Personally, I'm not much of a fan of this season and found myself dropping my rating from a 10 to a 7 the more episodes I watched (currently I'm at episode 10). Though I'm used to Gintama's crude humor and actually find it funny, the Excalibur arc had so many jokes about butts, poop and sex metaphors that it started wearing out. It's already elementary style humor and can only go on for so long until the repetitiveness starts grinding on my nerves and I begin to think: ''Okay, I gettttttt it. Poop, ha-ha. Sex metaphors, fun-ny.'' And I'm also not a fan of Otsu, find her more annoying than most, so having several episodes with her as an important character isn't appealing to me either. Also, I feel like the animation has gotten poorer (especially in episode 9). Has anyone else noticed this? The thing about having a lot of Gintama episodes in a season, is that even if not all episodes are great, those bad episodes are still few and far in between. It helps when there's a heap of episodes you consume, because the overall conclusion could still be: ''Yeah, still great, because I've seen a lot more good episodes than bad ones.'' But when it's a short season like this one, a few bad episodes already make up the whole bunch. They stick to your mind too, because you don't get a lot of (good) episodes to cover up the bad ones. All in all, it's one of the worst Gintama seasons I've seen as of late. |
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Raij1n said: Kittens-kun said: I gotta be honest here, and I don't want to say this nor did I ever think I would, but this season is quickly becoming mediocre. Especially if you compare it to other Gintama seasons. It's funny, but definitely less than before. The animation has also taken quite the nose dive. The first episode of this idol arc is where it became apparent that I just couldn't ignore these issues anymore. I gave every season of the show a 10 up till now, even last season which some people thought wasn't up to snuff. But this time, I just can't do that. It really does suck, but I'm not giving it a 10 when I don't think it deserves it. Since Fujita Yoichi leaves, the jokes adaptation are kinda anti-climatic. Hope he'll be back for the next season. totally agree. gintama doesnt really feels like gintama without him, I cant even imagine how the 2015 arcs would have been with him as a director |
ThEoNePugNA said: 2015 anime would have Probably be the same to be honest, like what would have been different?(and Fuijita was Chief Director for the 2015 anime, and Takamatsu was the Sound Director for the 2015 anime)Raij1n said: Since Fujita Yoichi leaves, the jokes adaptation are kinda anti-climatic. Hope he'll be back for the next season. totally agree. gintama doesnt really feels like gintama without him, I cant even imagine how the 2015 arcs would have been with him as a director |
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| dunno, those 2 arcs didnt have that epic "feel" the other serious arcs before them had, its mostly like.. just there |
ThEoNePugNA said: Reaper arc was probably one of the best directed and artworks in Gintama and that was under the 2015 series, Episode 301, 304, 305, 307, 308, 310, 311, 314, 315, 320, 328(which is probably animated directed better than any Dialogue heavy series from the 2006 or 2011 anime)dunno, those 2 arcs didnt have that epic "feel" the other serious arcs before them had, its mostly like.. just there They're is probably nothing that would have been different if Fujita would have been director(especially if he used the 2011/Enchousen artwork because that would have been a bitch to animate for 17 Episodes serious arcs back to back...and there is the animator Shortage going on in Japan right now....) |
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| Now I haven't watched the season myself but from what people are saying I agree that MAL rankings don't matter much. I love the show even though I'm still at 2011 but I still feel we shouldn't stress out over the popular vote ranking by the MAL users. In the end it's a popular vote, trolls and fanboys are always present in these sort of votes... |
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SenpaiJay98 said: ThEoNePugNA said: Reaper arc was probably one of the best directed and artworks in Gintama and that was under the 2015 series, Episode 301, 304, 305, 307, 308, 310, 311, 314, 315, 320, 328(which is probably animated directed better than any Dialogue heavy series from the 2006 or 2011 anime)dunno, those 2 arcs didnt have that epic "feel" the other serious arcs before them had, its mostly like.. just there They're is probably nothing that would have been different if Fujita would have been director(especially if he used the 2011/Enchousen artwork because that would have been a bitch to animate for 17 Episodes serious arcs back to back...and there is the animator Shortage going on in Japan right now....) yes, for you; imo, nothing tops the courtesan arc, 4 devas or jiraya vs gintoki in terms of directing, you should go and compare them; every fight in 2015/2017 feels weaker in terms of intensity, impact or every other shit that matters in a serious fight |
ThEoNePugNA said: What made Courstan of a Nations directing better FS and Reaper arc?(Courstan wass probably one of the grandest directed serious arcs Besides Episode 261 and the 2nd half of 260, there hasn't been a better directed full episode in the old anime compared to Episode 279, 305, 308, 315, 324, or 328...The 2011 had Scenes or halves directed great but rarely a full episode...Episode 142 and 214 is an example of the full episode being directed great for the older anime director and are top tier directed and animated episode in Gintama), Do nt just say "imo"(because then what's the point in discussion in the first place? When GoatJesus makes a statement on directing he provides evidence and what he learned from his filmmaking school, not just say "imo" and leave it as isSenpaiJay98 said: Reaper arc was probably one of the best directed and artworks in Gintama and that was under the 2015 series, Episode 301, 304, 305, 307, 308, 310, 311, 314, 315, 320, 328(which is probably animated directed better than any Dialogue heavy series from the 2006 or 2011 anime) They're is probably nothing that would have been different if Fujita would have been director(especially if he used the 2011/Enchousen artwork because that would have been a bitch to animate for 17 Episodes serious arcs back to back...and there is the animator Shortage going on in Japan right now....) yes, for you; imo, nothing tops the courtesan arc, 4 devas or jiraya vs gintoki in terms of directing, you should go and compare them; every fight in 2015/2017 feels weaker in terms of intensity, impact or every other shit that matters in a serious fight And like I said before the 2015 anime spreads the animation and directing across the full episode rather than a scene or half(Graveyeard scene in 4 Devas), sometimes that bites in the ass when they do two S level episodes(304 and 305) in the row and have to sacfrice the previous or next episode(303 and 306) Episode 279 alone felt like a mini movie with directing lol, I'm surprised you used Courstan though since I went back to look at Episode 180(and that was a S class level episode, oh my that was top tier/Masterpiece I think only 214 was ever close to that level for Fujita), and Courstan didn't do that with its artwork and a lot of the animation felt stiff and barely had movement for most of that arc |
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| I'm guessing people who haven't seen Gintama from the beginning and just started with this season, seeing it for the first time are immediately bashing it and gave it a low rating. It could also be because the animation quality isn't consistent, who knows? Who cares? MAL is filled with assholes, it doesn't mean Gintama isn't fucking awesome. |
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ThEoNePugNA said: I did some digging and I found out some of the Key animators left Gintama /retired from anie in general/or something else also back in 2013, like Tadashi Oppata for example https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?page=1&tags=tadashi_oppata SenpaiJay98 said: Reaper arc was probably one of the best directed and artworks in Gintama and that was under the 2015 series, Episode 301, 304, 305, 307, 308, 310, 311, 314, 315, 320, 328(which is probably animated directed better than any Dialogue heavy series from the 2006 or 2011 anime) They're is probably nothing that would have been different if Fujita would have been director(especially if he used the 2011/Enchousen artwork because that would have been a bitch to animate for 17 Episodes serious arcs back to back...and there is the animator Shortage going on in Japan right now....) yes, for you; imo, nothing tops the courtesan arc, 4 devas or jiraya vs gintoki in terms of directing, you should go and compare them; every fight in 2015/2017 feels weaker in terms of intensity, impact or every other shit that matters in a serious fight Luckily we still have Youhei Sasaki https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?page=2&tags=youhei_sasaki So even if the first or second director came back to Fully direct the series...It wouldn't look as consistent as the past series did since it had more key animators on the project... but this is a problem with most anime productions in general nowadays http://goboiano.com/anime-industry-faces-animator-shortage-crisis-that-could-damage-future-productions/ the 2015 director has been with the series since Episode 25(which is famous for being the funniest episode in "Early" Gintama) https://wavemotioncannon.com/2017/07/16/looking-back-and-thanks-chizuru-miyawaki-animage-july-2017/ |
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| This season was purely comedic and came in a moment when people were expecting the drama to go on, so it kind of broke the pacing. Other than that it is very Gintama to me, and I'm specially puzzled at people criticizing the Excalibur arc for having too many poop and sex jokes, like after more than 300 episodes of this anime and many entire episodes and arcs purely devoted to this kind of comedy, how can this take anybody by surprise, let alone be a downer. If the matter is animation, I won't say anything, but it's not like Gintama has ever had stellar animation anyway. |
jal90 said: This season was purely comedic and came in a moment when people were expecting the drama to go on, so it kind of broke the pacing. Other than that it is very Gintama to me, and I'm specially puzzled at people criticizing the Excalibur arc for having too many poop and sex jokes, like after more than 300 episodes of this anime and many entire episodes and arcs purely devoted to this kind of comedy, how can this take anybody by surprise, let alone be a downer. If the matter is animation, I won't say anything, but it's not like Gintama has ever had stellar animation anyway. It's true that the animation was never amazing or anything. But this season was a noticeable downgrade from every other season. I don't think that's the only reason to criticize the season, but it's definitely one of them. |
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| Not complaining since 4 gintama anime are dominating the top 10 anime spots (including that recap arc thing which I don't really get) + this one is the weakest season IMO. |
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| This season was very poor, I didn't enjoyed single episode. Giving 5 for this I'm not sure if I given to much. |
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PoeticJustice said: HaXXspetten said: Better question, why this one? Why is this season (which is actually really good so far) below 9 yet the shitty Rakuyo arc from the Winter season is still at 9.04? smh people are scared of gintama. it is better than Fma brotherhood. they are just bringing it down LMAO FMAB is better then Gintama just except the facts bro and Gintama isnt the greatest anime ever just saying that award goes to FMAB |
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MemberTriggered said: FMAB is great but not as good as it's manga counterpart and is more of a moving manga according to @RainyRai who usually makes good argument on why, while Gintama goes out of it's why to push what a anime is supposed to do in it's own medium(like the Shitting paint opening in Episode 183, the 4th wall breaking segments, the different artstyles like the paintings with Utsuro's flashback etc.)PoeticJustice said: people are scared of gintama. it is better than Fma brotherhood. they are just bringing it down LMAO FMAB is better then Gintama just except the facts bro and Gintama isnt the greatest anime ever just saying that award goes to FMAB |
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S-quare22 said: Because a lot of people are taking MAL ratings seriously and this shouldn't be a thing. Getting triggered because of a score is what I'd call stupid. Well, to be honest, this arc isn't really that good so... Honestly, gintama fans are the ones taking it seriously. I didn't see any other fanbase where they cry about the ratings that much. There are 5 gintama entries in top10, and every single gintama season has at least 1 topic about 'why are there so many haters downvoting"... this is just a joke at this point. |
ImAWeebUwU said: Yeah, let's look at one thread instead just ignore the countless alternate accounts giving it 1's and 10's, or the 1/10 Reviews telling people to die or calling them cancer, and the people calling out the actual Gintama fansS-quare22 said: Because a lot of people are taking MAL ratings seriously and this shouldn't be a thing. Getting triggered because of a score is what I'd call stupid. Well, to be honest, this arc isn't really that good so... Honestly, gintama fans are the ones taking it seriously. I didn't see any other fanbase where they cry about the ratings that much. There are 5 gintama entries in top10, and every single gintama season has at least 1 topic about 'why are there so many haters downvoting"... this is just a joke at this point. what are you going to cherry pick from next time?(Violet Evergarden being labeled as a summer anime but being a Winter 2018 anime? Monogatatari rating?) |
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SenpaiJay98 said: ImAWeebUwU said: Yeah, let's look at one thread instead just ignore the countless alternate accounts giving it 1's and 10's, or the 1/10 Reviews telling people to die or calling them cancer, and the people calling out the actual Gintama fansHonestly, gintama fans are the ones taking it seriously. I didn't see any other fanbase where they cry about the ratings that much. There are 5 gintama entries in top10, and every single gintama season has at least 1 topic about 'why are there so many haters downvoting"... this is just a joke at this point. what are you going to cherry pick from next time?(Violet Evergarden being labeled as a summer anime but being a Winter 2018 anime? Monogatatari rating?) I'm not looking at one thread, literally every gintama entrys forum section is full of them. So what?? Every top show gets haters. Man no wonder this overrated show is in top10, with fanboys like this jesus. |
ImAWeebUwU said: Yes it is just one thread for SS now lol, and there is more people in and bots complaining with the 1/10'sSenpaiJay98 said: Yeah, let's look at one thread instead just ignore the countless alternate accounts giving it 1's and 10's, or the 1/10 Reviews telling people to die or calling them cancer, and the people calling out the actual Gintama fans what are you going to cherry pick from next time?(Violet Evergarden being labeled as a summer anime but being a Winter 2018 anime? Monogatatari rating?) I'm not looking at one thread, literally every gintama entrys forum section is full of them. So what?? Every top show gets haters. Man no wonder this overrated show is in top10, with fanboys like this jesus. and it's YOUR opinion that you think it's overrated(yes those exist, shocking right) |
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topazio said: ....uh, not true like Gintama fanboys are like less than the minority to do this lololololol https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1692993Maybe. But since Gintama fans just do the same with other shows, I would say this is just cosmic justice. A very slow and ineffective one at that, but still. |
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ImAWeebUwU said: S-quare22 said: Because a lot of people are taking MAL ratings seriously and this shouldn't be a thing. Getting triggered because of a score is what I'd call stupid. Well, to be honest, this arc isn't really that good so... Honestly, gintama fans are the ones taking it seriously. I didn't see any other fanbase where they cry about the ratings that much. There are 5 gintama entries in top10, and every single gintama season has at least 1 topic about 'why are there so many haters downvoting"... this is just a joke at this point. of course you'll cry when a favorite of yours gets shitted on and downvoted just because "its gintama and it had too many entries" like, fucking really? |
| To be honest I find this is the same as typical gintama the same as every time So basically if you don'tike this season this means you also don't like gintama in general |
ThEoNePugNA said: ImAWeebUwU said: Honestly, gintama fans are the ones taking it seriously. I didn't see any other fanbase where they cry about the ratings that much. There are 5 gintama entries in top10, and every single gintama season has at least 1 topic about 'why are there so many haters downvoting"... this is just a joke at this point. of course you'll cry when a favorite of yours gets shitted on and downvoted just because "its gintama and it had too many entries" like, fucking really? Of course, I can't care less about MAL ratings, and nolifes downvoting a series I like... grow up perhaps. |
ImAWeebUwU said: tell that to all the butt hurt mal fans that just can't use another site if they don't like how this site is handledThEoNePugNA said: of course you'll cry when a favorite of yours gets shitted on and downvoted just because "its gintama and it had too many entries" like, fucking really? Of course, I can't care less about MAL ratings, and nolifes downvoting a series I like... grow up perhaps. |
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SenpaiJay98 said: ImAWeebUwU said: tell that to all the butt hurt mal fans that just can't use another site if they don't like how this site is handledOf course, I can't care less about MAL ratings, and nolifes downvoting a series I like... grow up perhaps. This will be my last time replying to you, if you can't understand a simple english text. every single popular show gets 1/10 scores, not only gintama, but only 10 year old gintama fanboys like you start QQ topics like this. Is it hard to understand this sentence? |
ImAWeebUwU said: But it's ONE thread, and there is threads on the other shows hat get 1/10's alsoSenpaiJay98 said: tell that to all the butt hurt mal fans that just can't use another site if they don't like how this site is handled This will be my last time replying to you, if you can't understand a simple english text. every single popular show gets 1/10 scores, not only gintama, but only 10 year old gintama fanboys like you start QQ topics like this. Is it hard to understand this sentence? and first of all, some of the guys who made these "butthurt threads", have only seen some of the anime and is curious why(so do your research on the people before assuming they're hardcore Gintama fans) like this guy who made this thread(he makes threads just to make threads at times in general in mal lol) https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1583301 and ... Gintama fans barely do anything with the ratings in teh first place(scroll down to see some facts or you can just do it yourself...but I know you don't like facts unless it agrees with you) https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1692993 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1657294 hell even Owarimongatari fans talked about the 1/10's lololol, and you already saw ehat the Evergarden one was with the stats |
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| To be frank, I just felt this was the worst Gintama season so I rated this an 8/10, unlike every other season I rated a 10/10. I don't like this season because not only is the animation, sound direction, and editing the most incompetent the series has to offer but I also really didn't see the need of having another season before the Silver Soul ark. It bittered the taste for me while I was waiting for the final ark, especially since the arks stopped really being funny after the first few (I know crazy right), out of a mix of impatience and again, lackluster directing. They should have just adapted these as OVAs that ran throughout the year, up until the final arc, or alongside it. It would have been overall less noticeable then. Thankfully the Silver Soul arc made the anime a masterpiece again, so I have nothing else to complain about. |
| tbh even as a fan I have to say this season wasn't as great as the others. But in general it does seem like haters try to downvote Gintama because they are salty that its so highly rated |
MemberTriggered said: PoeticJustice said: people are scared of gintama. it is better than Fma brotherhood. they are just bringing it down LMAO FMAB is better then Gintama just except the facts bro and Gintama isnt the greatest anime ever just saying that award goes to FMAB FMA:B is generic as fuck and has a shit protagonist. Doesn't come close to Gintama in any way |
HaXXspetten said: Better question, why this one? Why is this season (which is actually really good so far) below 9 yet the shitty Rakuyo arc from the Winter season is still at 9.04? smh Rakuyo despite flaws was much better than this boring season |
| The most corny comedy arcs in one season. It had it moments but it stinks of mediocrity. Mediocre (4)/10 IMO. Lol dont let ratings bother you. Code Geass sucks ass but it is at the Top 20. |
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Aardwolf94 said: tbh even as a fan I have to say this season wasn't as great as the others. But in general it does seem like haters try to downvote Gintama because they are salty that its so highly rated Not anime related tag.... You use Aard as a main magic on Witcher 3?Wew! #QuenForPresident |
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