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Nov 24, 2017 12:26 AM

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I didn't want to say anything about this, but it's been building up for a long time, and this needs to be addressed. Why is the anime community seemingly overrun by fujoshis?

It's like, blah blah blah it's your right to be a fujoshi, whatever, but what happened to the rest of us? When I look for anime art online, the search results, most true for popular series, are overrun with fujoshi fanart some of which is baseline pornographic in nature. I mean, seriously, what is this? Why are there so many people who do this to characters who are clearly not homosexual?

And it's like, we're at the point where fujoshi culture is so prevalent in anime culture, we just have to expect every sports anime to be fujobait now, because fujoshis gravitate towards them like flies to doodoo and the industry apparently wants to capitalize on that.

Where did the time go when sports anime did not also equal shounen ai? Did those days ever exist? Why does every all male cast have to be pimped out and sodomized to appeal to the small minority of anime fans who get off on yaoi? Or is the minority actually the majority because that's really what it seems like.

I love sports anime and I love action shounen, but when I enter these communities and see my favorite characters collectively dehumanized and turned out, it flat out disgusts me. And if that offends you, oh well. I'm sure plenty of other people have been offended by the way shounen characters get portrayed in art.

It's not that fujoshis need to disappear, though I personally could not be happier if they did, I'm just curious as to when the anime culture shifted in this direction, if it was always like this, and how can we go back?




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Nov 24, 2017 12:32 AM
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Why be offended? Females in anime have so much sexual art drawn that its insane. Are you offended by that?
 
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Nov 24, 2017 12:37 AM

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Who cares?

It's much better than the anime industry pandering to lolicons
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Nov 24, 2017 12:42 AM

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When did bait culture eclipse anime culture?

We ought to start over again from zero.
 
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Nov 24, 2017 12:52 AM

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Fuck it, gotta throw those yaoi-loving fujos some bones at least sometimes.
 
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Nov 24, 2017 12:53 AM

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Easy man, this kind of stuff is dangerous, trust me i know. Just leave it, trust me.


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I didn't want to say anything about this, but it's been building up for a long time, and this needs to be addressed. Why is the anime community seemingly overrun by fujoshis?
Is it overrun or are they just more vocal about their thing?

It's like, blah blah blah it's your right to be a fujoshi, whatever, but what happened to the rest of us? When I look for anime art online, the search results, most true for popular series, are overrun with fujoshi fanart some of which is baseline pornographic in nature.
That just means they are more hardcore fans than other anime fans. I also don't have the same type of results like you. Note though, if you were searching on deviantart it is called deviant for a reason.

I mean, seriously, what is this? Why are there so many people who do this to characters who are clearly not homosexual?
Why are there even more people who do stuff about two characters who aren't into each other even if of opposite sex? Why are there people supporting Naruto X Sakura even though Sakura never had any feelings for him and Naruto just had a crush but nothing serious?
Changing the dynamics of fictional characters relationships is not exclusive to Fujoshi.

And it's like, we're at the point where fujoshi culture is so prevalent in anime culture, we just have to expect every sports anime to be fujobait now, because fujoshis gravitate towards them like flies to doodoo and the industry apparently wants to capitalize on that.
The industry always capitalized on the most promising fandom, that's why I have a big issues with deliberate fanservice.

Where did the time go when sports anime did not also equal shounen ai? Did those days ever exist? Why does every all male cast have to be pimped out and sodomized to appeal to the small minority of anime fans who get off on yaoi? Or is the minority actually the majority because that's really what it seems like.
Thing is that looking at some demographic pools, female anime fans are not necessarily the small minority maybe not even the minority.

I love sports anime and I love action shounen, but when I enter these communities and see my favorite characters collectively dehumanized and turned out, it flat out disgusts me. And if that offends you, oh well. I'm sure plenty of other people have been offended by the way shounen characters get portrayed in art.
You don't necessarily have to enter those communities or just have to search better for a community that fits you.

It's not that fujoshis need to disappear, though I personally could not be happier if they did, I'm just curious as to when the anime culture shifted in this direction, if it was always like this, and how can we go back?
By increasing the amount of fans and sales of sport manga that don't pander to Fujoshi.
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Oh yeah, I remember that time when fujoshi culture swept across the entire anime discussion and changed the entire lanscape of discussion.... oh wait they never did.

I'm not denying they are somewhat of a presence, but I run into something remotely fujo less than once a month. I'm not sure what exactly are you searching or why google thinks you might possibly be gay, but I definitely don't find fujoshi culture "eclipsing" anything.
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Pretty sure you're trying to provoke a reaction with this thread butt whateva..


>are overrun with fujoshi fanart some of which is baseline pornographic in nature
>seems like you didn't see how guys lewd anime girls and how many porno fanarts they made.
Fujos make their own fanarts and guys make their own fanarts because our generation is led by porn culture.

> Why are there so many people who do this to characters who are clearly not homosexual?
Duh, it's Because they look cute together. What are you ?? A homophobe ??

>we just have to expect every sports anime to be fujobait now
Are you implying that Sol and CGDCT and girls sports shows are not bait for yuri shippers ? Every category has its own shows and audiences.

>Where did the time go when sports anime did not also equal shounen ai?
It's because you see friendship as shounen ai. It's because you're a homophobe.

>it flat out disgusts me
It digusts me too when I see my favorite girls collectively dishumanized and turned out. You can't do anything to this community. Complaining won't solve anything

>It's not that fujoshis need to disappear
Are you a hypocrite ? You said that yaoi fanarts should fade and this wouldn't happen if fujoshis didn't disappear.


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Is this bait ??

That girl has jojo and kuroko no basuke in the favorites and she's still complaining about sports shows being gay and fujo baits ??

Gtfo. Who the hell do you think you're fooling ??
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Nov 24, 2017 1:35 AM

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It's just like with ecchi fans. They are more likely to pay for what they like, so they get what they want
 
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Best example of bait on page 1 of AD.

Congrats OP on reeling them in.

 
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who tf cares, if it looks good i still save it and maybe fap to it :^)
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here's hoping this is AD's only really retarded thread today

maybe today could be a good day
 
Nov 24, 2017 2:35 AM

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maybe you should watch some actually good popular series that arent sausagefests like lucky star

or demographic transcending masterpieces like pingu, im sure theres no yaoi on that
 
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here's hoping this is AD's only really retarded thread today

maybe today could be a good day
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maybe today could be a good day
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True it bothers me so much because I’m gay and they’re clearly fetishizing gay people. But a lot of it is adorable and doesn’t bother me so it’s fine.
 
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If anything else from what I know, AD is run by bait threads, troll threads and shitposting threads that accumulated for all these years. Users enjoying how fun it is to target certain users; bash certain users and for all what... For the lulz? Probably.


I didn't want to say anything about this, but it's been building up for a long time, and this needs to be addressed. Why is the anime community seemingly overrun by fujoshis?


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The short answer is: I was surrounded by heterosexual romances my whole life. Ofc I like(d) many of them very much, but I also love to find good not-heterosexual romances. The good or better ones, not the typical Yaoi. XD I'm just really happy that Girls and Boys Love isn't just solely a niche with the typical SOL-setting and cliche characters.
Dehumanizing... lol. At this point, i know it's not even a bait. Eww. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Initial thoughts after reading this, my theory is that being gay is more common and accepted nowadays so that has contributed to the popularity. Plus, we're all comfortable being perverts online.

I'm tired of hypocrites trying to criticize other fans for being perverts. Let's be honest, we're all perverts with our own dehumanizing fetishes.
 
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I guess it's just that fujoshis are more passionate. I mean, if a 'normal' anime watcher were really into 'normal' anime and more vocal about it, google search would probably also show lots of 'normal' arts. Just happened that fujoshis's determined spirit won the game. Also, fujoshis are also humans. Please don't be happy for them to disappear. That thought just honestly flat out disgusts me.
 
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I guess it's just that fujoshis are more passionate. I mean, if a 'normal' anime watcher were really into 'normal' anime and more vocal about it, google search would probably also show lots of 'normal' arts. Just happened that fujoshis's determined spirit won the game. Also, fujoshis are also humans. Please don't be happy for them to disappear. That thought just honestly flat out disgusts me.


Dude. This is a bait thread. Don't take anything seriously.


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thefreeloader said:
I guess it's just that fujoshis are more passionate. I mean, if a 'normal' anime watcher were really into 'normal' anime and more vocal about it, google search would probably also show lots of 'normal' arts. Just happened that fujoshis's determined spirit won the game. Also, fujoshis are also humans. Please don't be happy for them to disappear. That thought just honestly flat out disgusts me.


Dude. This is a bait thread. Don't take anything seriously.
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Who cares?

It's much better than the anime industry pandering to lolicons


Here fucking here.

And harem/siscon trash. Japanese guys have set the bar far too low for me to be bothered by fujos.
 
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I see many hypocrites here haha

As far as I see, yaoi fanart is generally easier to find yes, but hentai art exist more than yaoi art. And fujoshi never complained about it. NEVER. We mind our own business thank you very much. Stupid people are busy complaining and hating on yaoi art, fujoshi are busy making more yaoi art.

If you saw many yaoi art, you probably need better place to look for art. You could try sites like danbooru. Also, tagging is a thing you know. Look for art site that use this tagging system so you won't stumbled upon yaoi art/art that offended you.

There are many kind of perverted fans, fans that make and enjoys tentacles porn, incets, loli, fetishized characters (I saw many lewd Tsuyu with her magic tongue), lesbian sex, gang rape, BUT HAVE WE EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THOSE??? HAVE WE EVER WISH FOR PERVERTED GUYS WHO MAKE AND ENJOYS KURONEKO X KIRINO TO DISAPPEAR?

Open your eyes and mind you oh so straight guys. The reason you hated yaoi is because it probably fetishized MALE and it disgust you. JUST LIKE HOW I DESPIZED HOW PERVERTED GUYS FETISHIZED FEMALE FOR DECADES in your hentai doujinshis. Anyway, not all yaoi fetishized so there's that. There's good in everything.

Let us have our own fun.

Stop complaining about this stuff because you sounds so stupid and selfish rn peeps. It's internet. Just avoid things that offended you, jeez.

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I also don't have the same type of results like you. Note though, if you were searching on deviantart it is called deviant for a reason

Where do you search fanart? I want to know.

Deviantart has gone to shit for serie fanarts ages ago, tumblr was never good, twitter is the same, pixiv is pixiv. (but even pixiv is being invaded by tumblr now......)
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The problem with anime going to the fujoshi is that the fujoshi side of the fandom especially on the Western side is becoming far more toxic than the other sides, the Tumblrinas make it worse. It's going to start dragging the industry down.


 
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I also don't have the same type of results like you. Note though, if you were searching on deviantart it is called deviant for a reason

Where do you search fanart? I want to know.

Deviantart has gone to shit for serie fanarts ages ago, tumblr was never good, twitter is the same, pixiv is pixiv.
I don't search for fanart, I just google it if I am looking for something like the gifs in my signature.
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Shicchi said:
I see many hypocrites here haha

As far as I see, yaoi fanart is generally easier to find yes, but hentai art exist more than yaoi art. And fujoshi never complained about it. NEVER. We mind our own business thank you very much. Stupid people are busy complaining and hating on yaoi art, fujoshi are busy making more yaoi art.

If you saw many yaoi art, you probably need better place to look for art. You could try sites like danbooru. Also, tagging is a thing you know. Look for art site that use this tagging system so you won't stumbled upon yaoi art/art that offended you.

There are many kind of perverted fans, fans that make and enjoys tentacles porn, incets, loli, fetishized characters (I saw many lewd Tsuyu with her magic tongue), lesbian sex, gang rape, BUT HAVE WE EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THOSE??? HAVE WE EVER WISH FOR PERVERTED GUYS WHO MAKE AND ENJOYS KURONEKO X KIRINO TO DISAPPEAR?

Open your eyes and mind you oh so straight guys. The reason you hated yaoi is because it probably fetishized MALE and it disgust you. JUST LIKE HOW I DESPIZED HOW PERVERTED GUYS FETISHIZED FEMALE FOR DECADES in your hentai doujinshis. Anyway, not all yaoi fetishized so there's that. There's good in everything.

Let us have our own fun.

Stop complaining about this stuff because you sounds so stupid and selfish rn peeps. It's internet. Just avoid things that offended you, jeez.

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Nov 24, 2017 7:18 AM
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hasn't it always been like this? look at old anime.. the guys are supposed to be pretty/hot and girls have been all over them forever, maybe it just wasn't something people noticed until social media became a thing

i remember as a kid girls obsessing over hot anime guys
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zal said:
Zeando said:

Where do you search fanart? I want to know.

Deviantart has gone to shit for serie fanarts ages ago, tumblr was never good, twitter is the same, pixiv is pixiv.
I don't search for fanart, I just google it if I am looking for something like the gifs in my signature.

Ah ok, thought you were so lucky to have found a fanart source site which was "clean" and innocent about fanarts, without being overly sexualized(either way).

What the OP said about fanart sites being overrun by yaoi is real. More so than yuri.

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Clebardman said:
Why can't I google "Ryuuko Satsuki Kill la Kill" without seeing pages of buttnaked sisters having steamy incestuous lesbian sex, and why doesn't it bother me more than "heh, not my kink"?


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Dude, if you want some porn anime pic just search in mjv-art.org

I bet tons of guys are browsing over their.

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i remember as a kid girls obsessing over hot anime guys


And till now it’s like this.
 
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Zeando said:
What the OP said about fanart sites being overrun by yaoi is real. More so than yuri.

You don't look enough

Okay, as a somewhat fanart expert, tell me what fandom and what kind of art you want I'll give you site

I see nobody rebutted my post earlier pfft
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The problem with anime going to the fujoshi is that the fujoshi side of the fandom especially on the Western side is becoming far more toxic than the other sides, the Tumblrinas make it worse. It's going to start dragging the industry down.

Maybe you should include a more elaborate points about in what way does the fujoshi dragging the industry down and how is the fujoshi are more toxic than others and how it affect your anime viewing experience as a result? Or how is it any of your business at all?
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If I can ignore them, so can you.

Fujoshi, to me, are kinda like lolicon. I know they're there, drawing their stuff and writing their fiction, but I don't really interact with them.

And aside from MAL, I probably don't even frequent the same places that they do.
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Shicchi said:
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What the OP said about fanart sites being overrun by yaoi is real. More so than yuri.

You don't look enough

Okay, as a somewhat fanart expert, tell me what fandom and what kind of art you want I'll give you site

Keep in mind, I'm talking about source sites, not mirrors.
(boorus are all mirrors, they are all reuploads, the source sites is where the artists upload their own art, sources are the best to see the whole fanart production, and to avoid missing some fanarts, since mirrors are biased toward old and popular fanarts, mirrors are also always one step behind sources)


But ok, let's say any fanart from series published in shonen jump (like: one piece, naruto, bleach, dragon ball, boku hero academia, promised neverland, medaka box, and so on)
About the kind: badass, cute, funny, nothing too sexual.

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Zeando said:
Shicchi said:

You don't look enough

Okay, as a somewhat fanart expert, tell me what fandom and what kind of art you want I'll give you site

Keep in mind, I'm talking about source sites, not mirrors.
(boorus are all mirrors, they are all reuploads, the source sites is where the artists upload their own art, sources are the best to see the whole fanart production, and to avoid missing some fanarts, mirrors are always one step behind)


But ok, let's say any fanart from series published in shonen jump (like: one piece, naruto, bleach, dragon ball, boku hero academia, promised neverland, medaka box, and so on)
About the kind: badass, cute, funny, noting too sexual.

I know what a source site is dear ;D

My go to site usually pixiv, it's where most amazing fanarts you see on google, pinterest, zerochan, boorus came from.
Go make an account there first to be able to view the full size art.

Once you know how to navigate pixiv, it's golden, I'll direct you to the link:
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Boku no Hero Academia

In the search box, you can change the number to 100/500/1000/5000/10000 (it refers to the number of likes)
It's easy to avoid NSFW in pixiv (there is filter for it, go to user settings and hide R-18 art). And to avoid yaoi/yuri art, watch out for this tag 腐
Of course the downside is that it's in Japanese. If you can read, you can easily avoid yaoi because everything is tagged by ship and character name.
But if you can't you just have to do your best avoiding it :/

Other source site is deviantart, but there is no tag system there so it's more difficult to avoid things you don't like

Most pixiv artists have twitter, so if you find art you like, go to the artist profile page and look if they have twitter. I'm following a ton of pixiv artists twitter I like so it's pretty easy and convenient to just scroll down my timeline to look for some great fanarts.
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Discussion on anime in anime communities creates shipping and it always has, this isnt something new. next question please
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I was going to say something about how fujos spend a ton of money and they're hyper dedicated so studios need to pander to them in order to not go bankrupt but then I realized OP was just whining about nothing so forget it.

People ship stupid ass couples, that's been a thing forever. It has nothing to do with fujoshi.
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Shhhh, everyone knows watching a basket animu makes you gay, but fapping to 2d 8yo girls doesn't make you a pedophile.
To be fair, I can see why some people think KnB is a gay sports anime considering how much the dudes there like to play with balls :^)
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Zomg you saw some yaoi fan-art????
If that's not evidence that Fujos are taking over I don't know what is!
Someone bust out some gray uniforms and make some anti-yaoi signs, we have to stop this shit before it gets out of hand!
We can't afford to desensitize people to yaoi anymore than we already have so only use the really fucked up stuff. We'll then counter this with sweet and perfect yuri. And throughout all of this we'll forget to even consider the possibility that a sub-sect of the anime community wasn't indicative of the entire thing and that maybe we overreacted.
 
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I already knew and use pixiv regularly, but I never looked up that tag with the number of likes or bookmarks, it sounds useful, but with that 10000 tag it's a shame the results are so few (the main tags for those series have 1000 times the fanarts)

Lowering the requirements helps, like:
One Piece (1000 users, instead of 10000)
Boku no Hero Academia

That's about the level I was looking for.
Thanks for the help, you lived up to your self-appointed title of fanart expert :3

Shicchi said:
It's easy to avoid NSFW in pixiv
So long the artist knows how to tag their work as nsfw, I've seen some failures recently, but luckily they're rare.

Looked up 腐.... 1'344'384 results, wow.

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Nov 24, 2017 9:41 AM

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Thanks to the anonymity of the internet perverts are just being even louder than ever. In this case jobless perverts with a lot of extra time at their hands are dedicating it to their dirty gay rape fantasies hiding it under the guise of supporting LGBT.

Also it's best to keep 100 miles away from fandoms of series with all male cast. It's all useless, fujos will annoy you on one hand for not shipping their ships while other fans will shit on you for watching an all-male "fujo/yaoi" anime even if you like the series for other reasons.

 
Nov 24, 2017 10:17 AM
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Yaoi-Senpai said:
Dude, if you want some porn anime pic just search in mjv-art.org

I bet tons of guys are browsing over their.

EcchiKingMamster said:
i remember as a kid girls obsessing over hot anime guys


And till now it’s like this.


yea thats what im saying.. the anime community has always been full of fujoshi, people just didn't notice since most hardcore and or well known anime fans are guys

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Nov 24, 2017 11:14 AM
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OP I hope you're this passionate about the other "fandoms" the anime industry panders too consistently.

And further more as a conversation point I don't see in here is that lots of "fujos" are in fact bi/gay at least on the western side and they want representation of those relationships. There's barely any that aren't downright sexualized especially yuri. Why is it so hard to want healthy if not complex gay relationships, aware that it's most likely never gonna happen. There is tons if not massive amounts of unhealthy, toxic, bland as fuck straight relationships within narratives I find fascinating but apparently I'm suppose to accept it because the author didn't think too much on that front and put the romance is as an after thought and it's clearly obvious.

And I somewhat agree that stuff like the sports anime should not just be geared towards these girls, there is a market for stuff of the Hajime no Ippo of the world and even the "pretty boy anime" is really terrible and nobody even likes it Prince of Stride and Days comes to mind on that front. But there is also stuff like Cheer Boys that is kind of middle ground, there really is no gay undertones so to speak if you even look for that, and some of the guys have girlfriends. So take it as you will.
 
Nov 24, 2017 12:27 PM

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Where there are hot boys therell always be fujos
Where there are cute girls therell always be yuri fanboys
I see little difference


i can feel the detritus lifting.

 
Nov 24, 2017 12:36 PM
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Ugh this is what i hate about anime fans.
You guys are fine with lolicon fans and sexualizing female characters.
But when girls ship male characters for fun? OMG TRIGGERED!
And FYI people have yuri ships in shows where the girls arent lesbians. So your whole "why ship them when they aren't gay" reasoning is hella stupid.
 
Nov 24, 2017 12:44 PM
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If you think that all shounen and sports anime are gay then you're the problem. I don't see them like that at all. It's all in your mind. Just because a lot of fujos watch them doesn't mean it's real, they're still just making shit up in their fantasies and as are you if you are unable to watch them without seeing them as 'shounen ai' or whatever.

I hope fujo stuff becomes even more prevalent until some day people like OP just btfo of the community and the balkanization stops.

Listen, everybody wants change, don't nobody want to change though
don't nobody want to pray, till they got something to pray for
now everybody's gonna die, but don't everybody live though
 
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