| Refer to Sturgeon's law and you will understand. |
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| What is wrong with my average rating ? |
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| I am sorry ;-; But, there is a different case where literally NONE passes 7/10. Even his favorites. Now that, intrigues me. Edit: I just realized this thread might be cause of me because in the forum games. No, I personally have loved some 4s in my anime list, more so than the ones higher rated. |
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| for some people it is comforting to put bad scores. treating others' work as junk sometimes makes them feel better, when even they could not write a decent script |
| it's odd that people still think that giving a show a score under 6 means you didn't enjoy it. |
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LaLeLuLiLo said: it's odd that people still think that giving a show a score under 6 means you didn't enjoy it. For me it kinda does though. Like I dropped Milai Niki half way and it's some of the very few I score a 5 or under. |
| I'm more bemused by people who have completed large numbers of shows rating under 5. If you think it's bad, why keep watching? I use 5 strictly as a score for an average anime, but I still end up giving more 6s and 7s because I try to watch the good shows, not the average or poor ones. |
| People who don't know you can rate shows lower than a 5 are more intriguing. I've seen some mean scores in the 3s which is a little obnoxious, but people who give a 7 to shows they didn't like are just as perplexing. |
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| the point is they didnt enjoyed it or it's just so different from their expectations |
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Ventus_S said: But not all the people rate as the same wayLaLeLuLiLo said: it's odd that people still think that giving a show a score under 6 means you didn't enjoy it. For me it kinda does though. Like I dropped Milai Niki half way and it's some of the very few I score a 5 or under. |
Swagernator said: What is wrong with my average rating ? Its not all that difficult to see why your average rating is so low when you're rating shows like Elfen Lied as a 2 and Code Geass as a 5. |
| It's a free country, let people rate how they want. How someone rates doesn't dictate how much they enjoyed something. After all, enjoyment is a feeling while a rating is just a number. There's someone who uses a 1-5 scale and has a mean of 4.2. Does this mean he hates anime just because his mean is low? If you converted it to a 10 point scale his mean would actually be a lot higher than most people's. Some people don't seen 6 as being a bad rating. I personally consider 3 to be the cutoff and anything over that I enjoyed legitimately, but there are still some "so bad it's good" I rated 3 or below. |
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| People who rate the average anime 2-4 don't gauge their eyes out with forks as they watch anime, just as those who rate the average anime 7-9 don't hyperventilation themselves to death in excitement. Both of them just don't appreciate the beauty of having a moderate average with a large spread of scores, so they lump a whole bunch of anime with varying qualities into a single number. |
| I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters. If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
logopolis said: I mean like, I enjoyed watching Masou Gakuen HxH, which is one of the trashiest LN adaptation I've seen and scored it a 2. I have a rule that anything that is remotely enjoyable, it will never be a 1. So, anything that is a 1, it failed to give me enjoyment.I'm more bemused by people who have completed large numbers of shows rating under 5. If you think it's bad, why keep watching? I use 5 strictly as a score for an average anime, but I still end up giving more 6s and 7s because I try to watch the good shows, not the average or poor ones. |
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| They're just trying to be hipster critics... They just wanna feel superior like nothing is good enough for them... |
| Some people have a different rating system. A 5 or 6 for them could be good, and not mediocre/barely watchable, as for most of us |
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Kyantoweru said: Its not all that difficult to see why your average rating is so low when you're rating shows like Elfen Lied as a 2 and Code Geass as a 5. Well, there is an obvious reason for those scores. |
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| There are three possible reasons: 1. They prioritise quality over enjoyment, which means their rating system is flawed since quality and enjoyment are equally important. 2. They are difficult to please or they actively search for flaws in anime. 3. They want to display a false sense of "intelligence" by having low mean scores, and thus are fooling others and not being honest with themselves. People are free to rate however they want, but I won't take anyone seriously who has a mean score below 4 or above 8. At that point, you're not just being critical or lenient, your rating system is a joke. |
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Swagernator said: Kyantoweru said: Its not all that difficult to see why your average rating is so low when you're rating shows like Elfen Lied as a 2 and Code Geass as a 5. Well, there is an obvious reason for those scores. I agree. Code Geass is pretty meh in my opinion |
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| I don't think I've seen many profiles like that. I think the reason might be because they watch very specific shows like Ergo Proxy or Technolyze or LotGH. And anything which isn't "grown up" enough for them, they give it low scores. I've seen some older users here in their 30s and 40s or above. The shows that they watch are very... Let's say mature. Anime with themes that sometimes go way over the head of a simpleton like me. As for me,my mean score is pretty high. I pretty much watch anything and then end up giving high scores. |
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| We wait for the second coming of Steins; Gate. |
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| It could be that they like Anime, just not that much, but they still want to watch it. |
| Time to repost this for the 100th time: Pullman said: Classic "My ratings 100% represent enjoyment so I'll automatically assume that goes for every single person on this planet." We get one of these threads about every month. But the stream of ignorant people who can't fathom any perspective aside from their own, very narrow one, is never ending it seems. Why do people think it's a more realistic conclusion to think that someone watches anime while literally hating everything he watches than to simply consider that for them the ratings mean something different than for you? 60% of this site don't use the scores with their intended meanings and opt for only the upper half of the 1-10 scale. Some people just do it the other way round. It doesn't really matter at all. Scores only are relevant in relation to each other in the first place. Nobody can tell what you really think about a show just based on a number, and everyone who thinks they can is a retard. In that sense someone with a low mean score who at least uses the whole scale makes better use of the rating system than the 6-10 only users by using it to maximum effect when it comes to differentiating between the various shows he watched and how much he liked them. He might just be splitting up his favorites from 7-10 where others only fill their 10s with it, and then work himself downwards with 6 being good, 5 being decent, 4 being okay 3 being meh and 1 and 2 being shit. Suddenly a 4 mean score means about the same as a 8.5 mean score for a 6-10 only rater. So yeah I'm continuously impressed by how presumptuous people can get about this topic. They want to point their fingers to people and shout 'dumb elitist, you don't like anything!' or something along those lines instead of rationally thinking about how the ratings might be intended for even one minute. It's really not that hard to come to the conclusion I came to. And there are countless other ways to use the rating scale in your own way. Some result in a high mean score, others in a low mean score. But that doesn't mean it shows who likes and who hates anime. The ONLY difference is how they apply the rating scale, not how they feel while watching a show. Do you people really believe that the number you give a show changes ANYTHING about how much you enjoyed yourself? Do you really need that to trick yourself into believing you enjoy everything so much more than other people who enjoy a more diverse set of ratings with a lower mean? The number means shit, someone who gives a show a 1/10 might have enjoyed it more than someone who gave it 10/10 if the latter person just hands out 10s for everything and the former person actually had a lot of fun watching something terribad. I really think this logic of 'I enjoy anime more than you because I rate higher' is utterly questionable to me. If YOU need to rate everything highly just to convince yourself you had some fun, that's your cross to bear. Many other people are aware that the number they attach to a series will not make any enjoyment they felt while watching disappear (or magically appear) and use the full scale to differentiate without worrying about people thinking they 'hate' anime just because they're capable of more detailed distinctions. |
AlcoholicideNov 21, 2017 10:49 AM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| My mean score for a long time has hovered between 5.5 and 6. Anything I rate higher than a 7 is something I absolutely loved, my 9's are favorites and my 10's are all time greatest shows I have watched. A 7 to me is a show that I really enjoyed watching but had a couple of issues with it, small issues, but things like strange character motivations, plot progression, pacing, direction, etc. And just remember... a 6 is still a positive fucking score! Above-average. Glad I watched it, but I probably wont bother telling people to watch it. I didn't hate Erased or Tokyo Ghoul, but they are both a 4/10 on my list due to some glaring problems I had with them. Issues that upon reflection, ruined the experience for me, despite kind-of enjoying them while watching it. |
| "It's the same sense of loss I feel when a slice-of-life series ends... The despair of knowing that their lives will still continue on, yet I won't be able to see it..." ~Hajime Tsunashi from Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken |
| Okay guys, this one will blow your minds. Person A rates [insert anime] a 8/10 because they enjoyed the show a fair bit. Person B rates [insert anime] a 6/10 because they enjoyed the show a fair bit. Person C rates [insert anime] a 4/10 because they enjoyed the show a fair bit. Just because a certain person scores shows lower on average doesn't mean they enjoyed the time they spent watching less than another person which scored the shows they watched on average higher. What matters isn't the number someone assigns to a show, but what is behind that number, the reasons behind that score. Like imagine Person C uses the higher ratings more conservatively because they feel the need to differentiate between their higher rating more which in turn leads to a decreasing mean score. Person A might not care as much about differentiating in the higher ratings which is also fine. What is not fine however (or rather very... eccentric) is if you follow one of the two to an extreme. Like if your mean score is like below 2.5 or above 8.5 I question the usefulness of your scores because, one way or the other, they don't differentiate the largest portion of your ratings in any meaningful way. Is this really news to you guys? Like really? Just think for a second jfc. |
| I rate stuff using 5 for average, which means a lot of the stuff I watch is between 5-8 It's a more accurate score if you ask me, but as for people who just seem to enjoy scoring shows low, I can't say I know for certain. I watch a show if it's gotten enough attention (It's not the only factor on how I choose what to watch, but it is one), and it can be any genre, so even if I don't expect to like it I still watch it. I guess most people do the same. They must be immune to enjoying anything after watching so much. They're probably a completionist and watch it with a sense of... duty lol. |
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| Probably bcz they want to. And give an anime a 6 or 5 doesn't necessarily means that you didn't enjoy it Maybe it just didn't meet the expectations you had for it. I gave Death Note a really low score, but I enjoyed the first half of it, just gave a low rating bcz the ending was SO bad and I didn't like |
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Maneki-Mew said: Well it goes like: 6 = fine, fine = the cousin of nice, nice = "it's nice" is the little brother of "it's shit". Maybe not that rough, but when I try to express enthusiasm, I won't say "yeah, it was fine." Following the MAL descriptions of a score instead of using the system you deem the most useful is a meme tho. Not saying that's what you're saying, just throwing it out there. |
RealmOMFG said: Edit: Sorry, I suppose I didn't word this very well. I don't mean to suggest that you should only base your ratings on enjoyment (or that how anyone rates their experience is wrong.) For me personally, quality and enjoyment are both equally important and one can make or break the other. For other people this isn't always the case and that's completely fine. I don't mean to sound like I'm passing judgement on those who don't slap hard 10/10 on everything they watch because "oohh pretty colors" no I promise that's not what I was trying to do. This is more me just being genuinely curious as to why one might continue to watch something when time and time again it doesn't appear that they care to much for the stuff they're watching. Be it for lack of enjoyment, quality, both, neither or whatever. But what with 1 meaning "Appallingly bad" and five meaning "Meh it was fine" I'm asking what it is these people do enjoy about anime or the community etc if not like... 80% of the shows they watch. You can rate anything however you please, and I wasn't meaning to come off as judgy or rude. Just curious is all. Apologies again. Has this really not been answered by the replies so far? I see a bunch of people clearly telling you that ratings mean different things for different people and not just in terms of rating based on entertainment or quality but just how much enjoyment is represented by certain numbers can vary wildly from person to person. Not everyone gives a shit what MAL writes next to the numbers. You don't seem to either when you say 5 means 'meh, fine' when actually 6 means 'fine' and fine is pretty positive quality to have and not equivalent to 'meh' at all, like in your example. You see, it can vary from person to person. Everyone interprets and uses these numbers differently. Some differences are just more noticeable than others. So you see, your whole premise is faulty because you are asking 'why do these people who don't enjoy most of what they watch still watch anime?'. We're telling you these people don't exist as such and everyone who watches a lot of anime gets enjoyment out of it and just uses different numbers to represent that enjoyment in different ways. Your conclusion that they don't enjoy 80% of what they watch is wrong in the first place so the question why they still keep watching doesn't make sense. You're curious about something that only exists in your head, namely people who keep watching despite hating most of it. Instead you should be asking 'what do the ratings mean to that person', based on the likely assumption that he does enjoy himself and just uses the ratings differently. And to find that out you best ask the person in question who will usually be able to tell you why they have such a low average rating without using the words 'I hate everything I watch and I keep watching because I also hate myself'. |
AlcoholicideNov 21, 2017 11:25 AM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I mean a majority of anime is bad or average so it kinda makes sense that people rarely rate over a 6. |
| It intrigues me way more when i see someone with a really high mean score Kyantoweru said: Swagernator said: What is wrong with my average rating ? Its not all that difficult to see why your average rating is so low when you're rating shows like Elfen Lied as a 2 and Code Geass as a 5. What exactly do you mean with "shows like Elfen Lied and Code Geass"? Cause i though they were bad. Same for Steins;Gate and that stuff can be shocking but people who actually doesn't like that shows exists -- Omkar_Nagwade said: I don't think I've seen many profiles like that. I think the reason might be because they watch very specific shows like Ergo Proxy or Technolyze or LotGH. And anything which isn't "grown up" enough for them, they give it low scores. I've seen some older users here in their 30s and 40s or above. The shows that they watch are very... Let's say mature. Anime with themes that sometimes go way over the head of a simpleton like me. As for me,my mean score is pretty high. I pretty much watch anything and then end up giving high scores. People created this stereotype that liking anime like Tex or LoGH means that you'll automatically dislike everything to look superior or whatsoever, the so called "elitist". It's sad that these shows end up with an ambiguous reputation among the community |
llorandoNov 21, 2017 12:50 PM
| On MAL it even says that 5 is average so isn't it more weird that yours is around 6-8? Also we might be more strict on our ratings and don't rate solely on enjoyment which it looks like you do, cause there is no way kakegurui deserves a 9 if you really break it down |
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| I tend to think I'm kind of critical but I do know what I like hence my 6.18 mean score. |
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ZaFsii said: On MAL it even says that 5 is average so isn't it more weird that yours is around 6-8? Also we might be more strict on our ratings and don't rate solely on enjoyment which it looks like you do, cause there is no way kakegurui deserves a 9 if you really break it down The problem with adopting the 5=literally average is that all the other descriptors have to be scrapped. Not only that, there is the issue of being able to assess what's average. Can someone who has only watched 100 titles and not a single shounen - just as an example - do that at all? The mean score of a user is their average. Say you see someone with an extremely high mean of 9. Then you see that they rate a show 7, so you conclude what? That they hate that show, because it's really far below their mean? But to illustrate why that wouldn't make sense, let's say that that person is your identical twin who is known to like the same things as you. He has two 10s, one 9 and one 7 (only these). On top of that, you both have given these four titles the same scores. What would you conclude? |
AburadakoNov 21, 2017 12:56 PM
| I took a loot at my mean score and it's 6.31 I think It's not bad. When I start a show that I endup hating, I don't see second seasons, most of the times. |
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| If people want to incorrectly use the rating system, then that's just a problem of their own. Making a distorted display of what your tastes and standards are for seemingly no purpose is your own choice, since ratings aren't a serious matter anyway. What does concern me however is when ratings are in fact a correct use of the rating system, and those ratings happen to consist of 4s 3s, and 1s all over the place. At that point I really wonder why they bother investing so much time in the medium. |
| People like that don't exist. Not at all. Nill. |
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