| Usually it goes unnoticed, I guess someone reported your post. Though the term fujo shit does violate the guidelines (point 2) ed1 - oh well my second reply got deleted, though I knew it was coming since I wrote it as such to trigger people. On the bright side, I took a screenshot of it so no harm apart from Ako's post which is quoting nobody now. Heh. |
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| im really beginning to think there is some secret group out there reporting our assess to the mods lol #conspiracytheories |
| This is some spooky shit right here, guys. ER, I MEAN This is some spooky stuff right here, guys. |
| Yeah just don't post bait and you won't get your stuff edited/removed. If you'd rather have it removed instead of edited, remove it yourself now. |
ItsXolo said: Ardanaz said: Yeah just don't post bait and you won't get your stuff edited/removed. If you'd rather have it removed instead of edited, remove it yourself now. Can you define 'bait' for me? Baiting emotional responses. A.k.a. trying to piss people off or provoking others. It falls under trolling: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516059#msg18240023 |
ItsXolo said: actually it is, because you seem unable to process the rulesI wasn't intending to do either of those things, but whatever. That's not not what the topic is about anyway. |
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ItsXolo said: I wasn't intending to do either of those things, but whatever. That's not not what the topic is about anyway. That's exactly what this topic is about. Follow the rules and your posts don't get edited/removed. It got edited to take the bait away. If you didn't intend to bait, why do you care that it got toned down? |
ItsXolo said: I don't think expressing a very slight disdain for something that others might enjoy is "baiting". I care that it got "toned down" because the entire meaning of my post changes with the new wording, which may or may not still be something that I wanted to say. Nothing changed about your post. 'Shit' became 'stuff'. What's the difference? Your opinion hasn't changed, the message you're trying to get across is the same. If you make a post saying "I don't like magical girl shows", is that baiting? Some people do like magical girl shows. Why would that be baiting? If you said: "All magical girl shows are shit" it's kinda baitish, but it's not even that bad. Fujoshit is known bait in the anime community. The whole purpose of that word is to piss fujoshi off. You can play innocent if you want, but we both know your intentions were to insult fujoshi. |
| You will get used to it OP dont worry youre not the only one. ItsXolo said: Can you define 'bait' for me? Basically when you post image of a kitchen and user start to insulting you on your profile and start to wishing you death and bullet to the head, and then you get banned for a week. This is the definition. spuukiebuugi said: wow the original wording wasn’t even something worth reporting tbh Haha that's so funny. |
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ItsXolo said: My intention was to correct the poster I was quoting while also simultaneously expressing a slight disdain for the genre in question. Not to "insult fujoshi". I'm not here to dispute the fact that I was modded, but as long as we're on this subject, can I expect the mods to act the same way every time a LN/Harem/Ecchi show gets announced or mentioned and 50% of the comments are in the same vein as my "fujoshit" comment? Calling something shit isn't expressing a slight disdain, but w/e. If someone baits ecchi fans, then yes. Feel free to report them. |
| TL;DR. Dont be sarcastic, racist, bigot, or troll. That's the lesson in mal. You have an option not to adhere in the rules but dont expect having no consequences. |
"When you made this thread, I cried and screamed" -Swagernator 2017 |
| ya have 2 options: Make your fuckin posts better or, make them so shit they don't even bother turning it into a respectable post so they just delete it entirely |
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| Also what a privilege to have your offensive post only edited, some of us get immediately banned, guess some users are different. Ardanaz said: If someone baits ecchi fans, then yes. Feel free to report them. Damn, but that's like 100x reports per day. |
SwagernatorNov 8, 2017 3:20 AM
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Swagernator said: Also what a privilege to have your offensive post only edited, some of us get immediately banned, guess some users are different. Ardanaz said: If someone baits ecchi fans, then yes. Feel free to report them. Damn, but that's like 100x reports per day. Some of us also post a liiiiitle bit worse or repeatedly ;) |
Ardanaz said: ItsXolo said: I don't think expressing a very slight disdain for something that others might enjoy is "baiting". I care that it got "toned down" because the entire meaning of my post changes with the new wording, which may or may not still be something that I wanted to say. Nothing changed about your post. 'Shit' became 'stuff'. What's the difference? Your opinion hasn't changed, the message you're trying to get across is the same. If you make a post saying "I don't like magical girl shows", is that baiting? Some people do like magical girl shows. Why would that be baiting? If you said: "All magical girl shows are shit" it's kinda baitish, but it's not even that bad. Fujoshit is known bait in the anime community. The whole purpose of that word is to piss fujoshi off. You can play innocent if you want, but we both know your intentions were to insult fujoshi. This conversation escalated so quickly when in fact, OP just did not appreciate the mods toning down his post. I can relate to that because changing one word can change the entire meaning of someone's post and it is not a genuine reflection of their character. I think I'd rather have my post outright deleted than have it sifted through a PBS Kids filter and modified for a PG audience. That's not a genuine reflection of myself as a person and it's borderline disrespectful to some people. All OP's asking is that the staff considers deleting the posts entirely instead of just editing them. The question could of been answered with a "yes" or "no". This fight could have been avoided. |
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_Poochyena_ said: This conversation escalated so quickly when in fact, OP just did not appreciate the mods toning down his post. I can relate to that because changing one word can change the entire meaning of someone's post and it is not a genuine reflection of their character. I think I'd rather have my post outright deleted than have it sifted through a PBS Kids filter and modified for a PG audience. That's not a genuine reflection of myself as a person and it's borderline disrespectful to some people. All OP's asking is that the staff considers deleting the posts entirely instead of just editing them. The question could of been answered with a "yes" or "no". This fight could have been avoided. All that changed was 'shit' to 'stuff'. The exact same meaning is conveyed. Editing a post to remove the bait is a nicer solution than outright removing it. I understand that editing can change how you're being reflected and all, but let's be real here. Nothing changed. Instead of a simple 'yes' or 'no' (which wouldn't have been a proper answer anyways), I explained why his post got edited and how he can prevent it from happening again. |
| So basically, because OP isn't left-wing, he's being censored? Yeah, I'm just not going to post on this forum anymore. I don't like right-wingers either, but I don't believe in "silencing" people, as that is a violation of rights. MAL is NOT a safe space. |
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| It was tonned down to a certain extent in which "stuff" is more general than "shit" I guess... You posted that to the Free News which I think falls under the impression that you want to bait specific audiences. Ohh well, honestly, I'm sure it wasn't a a good bait anyway. I guess try harder? Be creative? >Degenerates like you don't understand how deep the story in Free is. By diving into water, they're diving into their personality Killed me on the spot. 10/10 would bait again.... |
Ardanaz said: _Poochyena_ said: This conversation escalated so quickly when in fact, OP just did not appreciate the mods toning down his post. I can relate to that because changing one word can change the entire meaning of someone's post and it is not a genuine reflection of their character. I think I'd rather have my post outright deleted than have it sifted through a PBS Kids filter and modified for a PG audience. That's not a genuine reflection of myself as a person and it's borderline disrespectful to some people. All OP's asking is that the staff considers deleting the posts entirely instead of just editing them. The question could of been answered with a "yes" or "no". This fight could have been avoided. All that changed was 'shit' to 'stuff'. The exact same meaning is conveyed. It lost its offensive point tho. Ardanaz said: ItsXolo said: My intention was to correct the poster I was quoting while also simultaneously expressing a slight disdain for the genre in question. Not to "insult fujoshi". I'm not here to dispute the fact that I was modded, but as long as we're on this subject, can I expect the mods to act the same way every time a LN/Harem/Ecchi show gets announced or mentioned and 50% of the comments are in the same vein as my "fujoshit" comment? Calling something shit isn't expressing a slight disdain, but w/e. If someone baits ecchi fans, then yes. Feel free to report them. So I can report someone if he/she talks offensive about my waifu? FeelsGoodMan OT: Tbh I think if someone triggers because of fujoshit he/she should quit internet asap. Since I love irony I have to point that out. The orginal word 婦女子(fujoshi/a woman) also can be written like 腐女子(fojoshi/rotten girl) so by that logic.....  |
sasalx said: Afaik, it's not like it 'can' be written like this, but it really is. Those two words are homophones and the second one, which derives from the first one, is meant to be a self-insult.The orginal word 婦女子(fujoshi/a woman) also can be written like 腐女子(fojoshi/rotten girl) |
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fuyuki said: sasalx said: Afaik, it's not like it 'can' be written like this, but it really is. Those two words are homophones and the second one, which derives from the first one, is meant to be a self-insult.The orginal word 婦女子(fujoshi/a woman) also can be written like 腐女子(fojoshi/rotten girl) Japanese works really different when it comes to homophones and kanji stuff. The word fujoshi can bi written by different kanjis. That is why in many anime and manga people ask kanji version of the name to understand and be able to properly write it. So like you said in this case it is an insult. Idk why but like the word otaku fanbase accepted theto usage of insult while defining themself. Kinda funny so that is why I mentioned this to @Ardanaz but like I said that is none of my bussiness. I enjoy watching ironic moments more. |
| lol muh freedom of speech, what if MAL decides to automatically censor all words about profanity/insults and users bypassing that word censor will get banned immediately i wonder what will happen by then |
isekai said: lol muh freedom of speech, what if MAL decides to automatically censor all words about profanity/insults and users bypassing that word censor will get banned immediately i wonder what will happen by then Don't give the mods any more ideas. |
_Ako_ said: isekai said: lol muh freedom of speech, what if MAL decides to automatically censor all words about profanity/insults and users bypassing that word censor will get banned immediately i wonder what will happen by then Don't give the mods any more ideas. word censor have been suggested in the past though, personally im fine with it since i can post without profanity and i got like 18K posts on another forum with word censor there too |
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sasalx said: It lost its offensive point tho. Yeah.... that was the point. So I can report someone if he/she talks offensive about my waifu? FeelsGoodMan Depends on how it's done. I think you've been on mal long enough to know the rules mate :P OT: Tbh I think if someone triggers because of fujoshit he/she should quit internet asap. Since I love irony I have to point that out. The orginal word 婦女子(fujoshi/a woman) also can be written like 腐女子(fojoshi/rotten girl) so by that logic..... I know the term fujoshi in itself is kinda an insult, but many girls who are into yaoi call themselves that even. It's kinda gray area, but fujoshit is just an insult nickname for them. shqip said: Wow, that's some heavy censoring going on here... Just because someone disagreed with OP, then went on reporting him, it immediately got edited? It's not even that much of an offensive word, and he/she/they could just ignore it. Did you read the thread? Has nothing to do with agreeing/disagreeing with an OP. isekai said: lol muh freedom of speech, what if MAL decides to automatically censor all words about profanity/insults and users bypassing that word censor will get banned immediately i wonder what will happen by then Doubt that will ever happen. A lot of us like to swear too. A nice example: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=365#msg44895 Rayzer said: @ItsXolo @shqip That's what you call #MALDoubleStandards #Whitenighting Those people are aggressive that they can turn a forum to a battlefield. MAL was too scared on them that they ban the poster who ignites their "warrior" within. Why do you have to make it into political crap? Don't really see the double standards. I've banned feminists before for baiting men. You can see it as some kind of political thing or you can see it as an anime website having some rules. Your choice. |
Ardanaz said: Is that true like 2-3 days ban and just after a few hours/not over one day?Rayzer said: @ItsXolo @shqip That's what you call #MALDoubleStandards #Whitenighting Those people are aggressive that they can turn a forum to a battlefield. MAL was too scared on them that they ban the poster who ignites their "warrior" within. Why do you have to make it into political crap? Don't really see the double standards. I've banned feminists before for baiting men. You can see it as some kind of political thing or you can see it as an anime website having some rules. Your choice. Because the way I see it, the ruling for guys was almost automatic. |
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Rayzer said: Is that true like 2-3 days ban and just after a few hours/not over one day? Because the way I see it, the ruling for guys was almost automatic. We don't see everything, so we can't deal with everything in the same amount of time. That's why reports are important. Btw, that post was edited by Nexu like 20 hours after it was made. Doesn't seem very automatic to me. |
ItsXolo said: can you just close this thread since only one person who's replied so far even understands what it's about? What have I not answered about your question? I'll close it if you want, but I've answered your question :/ "Can mods please not edit my posts?" No. We will continue to enforce site rules. |
ItsXolo said: The second part of your response shows that you clearly do not actually understand the question in the first place. I don't really care that much anyway, so that's all there is. I'm not really interested in arguing anymore. We'll have to agree to disagree then. Have a good one |
| He was just saying he wanted moderation to delete rather than to edit. Maybe he doesn't realise from the moment he violated the rules moderation can do as it wants. I guess for discussion continuity's sake it makes sense to edit rather than delete. But yeah, now he knows his posts will be altered maybe he'll refrain from posting ambiguous content. |
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EratiK said: He was just saying he wanted moderation to delete rather than to edit. Maybe he doesn't realise from the moment he violated the rules moderation can do as it wants. I guess for discussion continuity's sake it makes sense to edit rather than delete. But yeah, now he knows his posts will be altered maybe he'll refrain from posting ambiguous content. Maybe, but I answered that too :/ Ardanaz said: All that changed was 'shit' to 'stuff'. The exact same meaning is conveyed. Editing a post to remove the bait is a nicer solution than outright removing it. I understand that editing can change how you're being reflected and all, but let's be real here. Nothing changed. |
Ardanaz said: Yeah and that's the problem here. If girls/"non binary" users bash our ecchi,harem etc., we don't care. Rayzer said: Is that true like 2-3 days ban and just after a few hours/not over one day? Because the way I see it, the ruling for guys was almost automatic. We don't see everything, so we can't deal with everything in the same amount of time. That's why reports are important. Btw, that post was edited by Nexu like 20 hours after it was made. Doesn't seem very automatic to me. Even if the amount of their aggressiveness was equal to our rage on BL we don't care. But if BL was been bash they go into furry and it escalates quickly. Then they will report it immediately. This isn't just about this, It's all those got banned and warned too quickly. And about Nexu, was it even reported or he just seen/read it by chance? |
| Haters always gonna hate. |
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Rayzer said: Ardanaz said: Yeah and that's the problem here. If girls/"non binary" users bash our ecchi,harem etc., we don't care. We don't see everything, so we can't deal with everything in the same amount of time. That's why reports are important. Btw, that post was edited by Nexu like 20 hours after it was made. Doesn't seem very automatic to me. Even if the amount of their aggressiveness was equal to our rage on BL we don't care. But if BL was been bash they go into furry and it escalates quickly. Then they will report it immediately. This isn't just about this, It's all those got banned and warned too quickly. And about Nexu, was it even reported or he just seen/read it by chance? I understand what you mean, but if guys don't care, then why are you making this into a big deal now? I'm all for equality and if I see girls mindlessly bashing ecchi fans and calling them disgusting, I remove/edit posts too. You just don't get to see removed posts, so it can look like we don't do shit about them. We prefer to not mention whether something was reported or not. I don't know if it was or wasn't since I didn't deal with it, but it doesn't really matter much whether it was or wasn't. It still breaks the rules. |
Ardanaz said: I understand what you mean, but if guys don't care, then why are you making this into a big deal now? I'm all for equality and if I see girls mindlessly bashing ecchi fans and calling them disgusting, I remove/edit posts too. You just don't get to see removed posts, so it can look like we don't do shit about them. We prefer to not mention whether something was reported or not. I don't know if it was or wasn't since I didn't deal with it, but it doesn't really matter much whether it was or wasn't. It still breaks the rules. That's not what i get when you banned me for that bullshit. Same goes for NoLifer. Rayzer said: Yeah and that's the problem here. If girls/"non binary" users bash our ecchi,harem etc., we don't care. Even if the amount of their aggressiveness was equal to our rage on BL we don't care. But if BL was been bash they go into furry and it escalates quickly. Then they will report it immediately. This isn't just about this, It's all those got banned and warned too quickly. And about Nexu, was it even reported or he just seen/read it by chance? As much as i don't want to agree with you for reasons, this is exactly the case of MAL forum, i as a prof can confirm all that. |
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