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Nov 4, 2:13 PM

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Seeing all the buzz for this show in AD for it. I wanted to focus on the studio itself and ask a simple question to everyone here, "Do they just care about money?" I use to think A-1 Pictures was really bad and just had a habit of adapting everything under the sun while putting the least amount of effort into it. Naw man. Perriot told them to hold their sake. This studio has a habit of picking up a series and going out of their ways to ruin it. And these clowns want this to be the next Naruto? hahaah good luck with that. This genre is taking a turn for the better and people won't bother with this outdated approach anymore. I am convince this studio just cares about money than putting actual effort into the show. But I think we can also say the same for the manga creator too. It is like a fusion of two people who just want to make money for the lowest effort possible.
Studio Trigger is like that food you always want but hate when it is sold out in the stores. That's how good Studio Trigger is.
 
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Nov 4, 2:23 PM

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Do you hate on kids shows for being similar too?
BC has the potential to be big so they took the chance and they are putting effort, expecting big budget stuff every ep is stupid.
 
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Nov 4, 2:26 PM
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Oh, MasterHavik. Here you go again. What is with you? >_>
 
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Nov 4, 2:31 PM
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Isn't that more or less the fault at the author rather than the studio?

And of course, you can argue that they just picked it up... even though they weren't really the ones themselves picking it up, as committees assigns studios per series in question.

Besides, uh you say that but at the same time there's stuff like Osomatsu-san and Yona that aren't more for the money. Same can be applied to others they made that weren't really intended for that.

But to answer your question: Yes (because there have been series that they kind of ruined to actually doing so) and No (because they still have some stuff on their table despite minimal they're decent to good).
 
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Nov 4, 2:39 PM

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ichii_1 said:
Do you hate on kids shows for being similar too?
BC has the potential to be big so they took the chance and they are putting effort, expecting big budget stuff every ep is stupid.
I like a couple of kids shows, but what do they have do with this? Also from what I have looked into BC I'm not sure about that, but I feel the studio that is doing it is doing an amazing of taking a dump on that potential. Also we are 5 eps in and the show look like trash. If you know this studio you should know their quality of animation is not very good. You're talking to some who has endure Bleach and Naruto. I really know their animation and since I started to take classes in animation. I can tell they are not putting effort into it. I bet these clowns will find a way to make bouncing a ball cheap and lazy when it is like the most simplest thing you can do in animation.

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Oh, MasterHavik. Here you go again. What is with you? >_>
School and actually taking animation classes. So I can pick apart everything I watch even more.

Wasshio said:
Isn't that more or less the fault at the author rather than the studio?

And of course, you can argue that they just picked it up... even though they weren't really the ones themselves picking it up, as committees assigns studios per series in question.

Besides, uh you say that but at the same time there's stuff like Osomatsu-san and Yona that aren't more for the money. Same can be applied to others they made that weren't really intended for that.

But to answer your question: Yes (because there have been series that they kind of ruined to actually doing so) and No (because they still have some stuff on their table despite minimal they're decent to good).
I think may have worded my post poorly. Let me explain. I am moreso talking about the Studio itself and what they are doing to Black Clover. I think they are greedy because it took them 4 episodes to even get to the actual story. This studio in the past has a habit of making filler for sake of it even when they more than enough content to make a decent show. It is like they are not trying to really do anything with the show.
Studio Trigger is like that food you always want but hate when it is sold out in the stores. That's how good Studio Trigger is.
 
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Nov 4, 2:46 PM
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MasterHavik said:
ichii_1 said:
Do you hate on kids shows for being similar too?
BC has the potential to be big so they took the chance and they are putting effort, expecting big budget stuff every ep is stupid.
I like a couple of kids shows, but what do they have do with this? Also from what I have looked into BC I'm not sure about that, but I feel the studio that is doing it is doing an amazing of taking a dump on that potential. Also we are 5 eps in and the show look like trash. If you know this studio you should know their quality of animation is not very good. You're talking to some who has endure Bleach and Naruto. I really know their animation and since I started to take classes in animation. I can tell they are not putting effort into it. I bet these clowns will find a way to make bouncing a ball cheap and lazy when it is like the most simplest thing you can do in animation.

MareepYay said:
Oh, MasterHavik. Here you go again. What is with you? >_>
School and actually taking animation classes. So I can pick apart everything I watch even more.

Wasshio said:
Isn't that more or less the fault at the author rather than the studio?

And of course, you can argue that they just picked it up... even though they weren't really the ones themselves picking it up, as committees assigns studios per series in question.

Besides, uh you say that but at the same time there's stuff like Osomatsu-san and Yona that aren't more for the money. Same can be applied to others they made that weren't really intended for that.

But to answer your question: Yes (because there have been series that they kind of ruined to actually doing so) and No (because they still have some stuff on their table despite minimal they're decent to good).
I think may have worded my post poorly. Let me explain. I am moreso talking about the Studio itself and what they are doing to Black Clover. I think they are greedy because it took them 4 episodes to even get to the actual story. This studio in the past has a habit of making filler for sake of it even when they more than enough content to make a decent show. It is like they are not trying to really do anything with the show.

That is worded a bit much better than before.

Okay, MAYBE it would be the case. By the way, wasn't like Episodes 2-3 (especially 3) more so with original content? I don't know much due to not reading the source buuut... I don't know how its doing. :T

I thought the pacing in the series is fine, its albeit really weak buuut its not garbage either.
 
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Nov 4, 2:49 PM

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Wasshio said:
MasterHavik said:
I like a couple of kids shows, but what do they have do with this? Also from what I have looked into BC I'm not sure about that, but I feel the studio that is doing it is doing an amazing of taking a dump on that potential. Also we are 5 eps in and the show look like trash. If you know this studio you should know their quality of animation is not very good. You're talking to some who has endure Bleach and Naruto. I really know their animation and since I started to take classes in animation. I can tell they are not putting effort into it. I bet these clowns will find a way to make bouncing a ball cheap and lazy when it is like the most simplest thing you can do in animation.

School and actually taking animation classes. So I can pick apart everything I watch even more.

I think may have worded my post poorly. Let me explain. I am moreso talking about the Studio itself and what they are doing to Black Clover. I think they are greedy because it took them 4 episodes to even get to the actual story. This studio in the past has a habit of making filler for sake of it even when they more than enough content to make a decent show. It is like they are not trying to really do anything with the show.

That is worded a bit much better than before.

Okay, MAYBE it would be the case. By the way, wasn't like Episodes 2-3 (especially 3) more so with original content? I don't know much due to not reading the source buuut... I don't know how its doing. :T

I thought the pacing in the series is fine, its albeit really weak buuut its not garbage either.
I did a little research and the pacing is pretty awful. You don't get to shit you should care about until episode 4. I understand why filler sometimes works, but to be making filler out of the gate shows me they are chicken with its head cut off.
Studio Trigger is like that food you always want but hate when it is sold out in the stores. That's how good Studio Trigger is.
 
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Nov 4, 5:27 PM

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Perriot is too greedy? Tell me something I don't know, the way Bleach animated done back then always gave it away.
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Nov 4, 9:32 PM

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Perriot is too greedy? Tell me something I don't know, the way Bleach animated done back then always gave it away.
ugh don't remind me. I only could last two arcs. I even saw that stupid vampire arc they made.
Studio Trigger is like that food you always want but hate when it is sold out in the stores. That's how good Studio Trigger is.
 
Nov 4, 10:05 PM
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you didn't watch naruto?

you know they made fillers after the manga ended
 
Nov 5, 3:51 AM

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No. Shueisha is. Proof: https://mobile.twitter.com/kiirobon/status/905134234209316864
Perriot was just hired to animated the mangaka's loudly written protagonist. Don't listen to Chibi reviews, Mother's Basement or any other anime YTubers that don't know shit.

It is the producers/ production committee like TV Tokyo (that are also behind Naruto) which are greedy and add fillers. Perriot is just doing it's job.
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MasterHavik said:
I think may have worded my post poorly. Let me explain. I am moreso talking about the Studio itself and what they are doing to Black Clover. I think they are greedy because it took them 4 episodes to even get to the actual story. This studio in the past has a habit of making filler for sake of it even when they more than enough content to make a decent show. It is like they are not trying to really do anything with the show.


because that's what people already fans demands? they want pierrot to expanding super rushed first few chapter?
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Nov 5, 8:52 PM

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Yeah, I think we can definitely say they got greedy. Throwing the breaks up and going into filler hell from the very start of the show? They are milking the content of this series for all they can right from the start. Usually they at least wait until a cour has passed before tossing in the filler left and right.

Instead you have a massive original flashback in the second episode? Take multiple episodes to cover even one chapter?

They are going to kill this thing. You have to ease into it a bit. Especially when there is no reason to slow down the adaptation to a crawl right away.
 
Nov 6, 1:39 AM

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Do you go out of your way to make yourself look like an idiot all the time? The animation studio doesn't direct or write the script. Neither does an animation studio decide the number of episode. That's up to the production committee which includes big companies and TV stations. Most of the staff working on this aren't even Pierrot's employee since they're freelancers.
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If you know this studio you should know their quality of animation is not very good.

You need to back up your statement here. Show me an in-house episode done in Pierrot that was badly animated.
I really know their animation and since I started to take classes in animation. I can tell they are not putting effort into it. I bet these clowns will find a way to make bouncing a ball cheap and lazy when it is like the most simplest thing you can do in animation.

I find this statement incredibly snobbish and disrespectful when you realize just a few months ago one of their staff Kazunori Mizuno died from overworking on Wellcome to Ballroom's episode 2 when the episode was outsourced to Pierrot. You also need to understand not all episode are animated by them. Most of the episodes are outsourced to other studios due to scheduling issues otherwise you'd get stuff like this more often.

https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/b01709956c61a09a5a1e78bfb87e4921.webm
https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/48b951eb6c1bcb54216863b6b23ce47e.mp4
https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/ddf8d3ac7ee936d06916433f3f4b2f44.webm

In Black Clover, only the first two episodes have been animated by Pierrot while the rest of them have been outsourced.
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Nov 6, 2:05 AM

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Wanting to make money is being greedy?
 
Nov 6, 4:22 AM
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Studio Pierrot has nothing to do with this being 51 Episodes long. It is Shueisha and the companies who have invested on the show decided it.Studio Pierrot is only animating it.
 
Nov 7, 6:48 AM
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I mean, let's be honest, Pierrot does have a reputation of messing up adaptations by making them either too long, or have a low budget. That being said, we haven't even gotten to the juicy parts of the manga yet.... The battle animations give me hope that maybe, just maybe, when the big battles roll around, they will actually be good.
 
Nov 7, 7:30 AM

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Well almost all anime studio does that though. Milking source material for money.
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Nov 8, 4:11 PM

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Won't deny that Pierrot tends to make some poor adaptations but couldn't this also be the directors/staff's fault? I mean, at the end of the day they're the ones responsible for the pacing of the show as opposed to SP as a whole I believe apologies if I'm incorrect