| I have watched all previous DB series and planning to watch this one, but when I look at the art, it has the vibes of No Man Sky where everything get mixed together to form a creature as well as the color scheme. It also give me the feeling of DC/Marvel's multi-verse where I didn't like also, although some were actually interesting. Also, I was very disappointed in Bleach after Aizen arc. The arcs after Aizen was the cause of why Bleach is dying. Wonder that is the designs are intended to be No Man Sky? The "multi-verse" will also be the same as DC/Marvel? Is DBZ be the downfall of DB series similar to Bleach? |
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| Yes, DBS is pretty bad and it looks like it was animated by a bunch of Asian child workers who earn 10 cents per hour. |
| It only gets better much, much later on, if you can last long enough to get that far into it. |
| Its not amazing but its sometimes enjoyable. The plot moves really slow and since everything is anime original, they can get away with creating as many nonsense as they want to lengthen the series. This anime is gonna go on forever. |
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| I quite like it actually. Been watching dragonball since my childhood and still liking it. |
| It is the worst of the series so far. The only reason I watch it is because of nostalgia, and that's basically the only reason you should really watch it cause there's nothing spectacular or noteworthy about it. Also lol at this: Also, I was very disappointed in Bleach after Aizen arc. The arcs after Aizen was the cause of why Bleach is dying. Talk about random xD and Bleach isn't dying, it's dead already. |
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| It it good? So so Does the new arcs fare with the old ones? Nah but some of them are pretty decent. |
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| It's really fun to watch. It can't be worse than having Pan as the main character. |
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| sometime into dbs airing the dragon ball franchise started outselling one piece again so i doubt it |
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| aLotQuestion said: I have watched all previous DB series and planning to watch this one, but when I look at the art, it has the vibes of No Man Sky where everything get mixed together to form a creature as well as the color scheme. It also give me the feeling of DC/Marvel's multi-verse where I didn't like also, although some were actually interesting. Also, I was very disappointed in Bleach after Aizen arc. The arcs after Aizen was the cause of why Bleach is dying. Wonder that is the designs are intended to be No Man Sky? The "multi-verse" will also be the same as DC/Marvel? Is DBZ be the downfall of DB series similar to Bleach? Dc's multiverse is lively and filled with activity. Super's multiverse is only ever used as a plot device. None of the universes or planets in super are really all that fleshed out so if you were hoping for something like one piece where every island has a diverse world that has dozens of visual stories to tell then you're going to be disappointed. Super's multiverse is about as barren and boring as you can get, world building of any kind is just absent. |
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| Its an average series, nothing more & nothing less. Doesn't come close to DBZ, maybe thats just nostalgia talking but that series was just so entertaining and I liked that it took itself seriously to an extent. DBS seems to be one big joke |
| Honestly, its not the animation that bothers me the most. But rarher the ridiciulous scale of the fights and the logic behind all super powers really has become quite stupid by now.. |
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| @Aardwolf94 I loved the mix of serious drama/stakes and humour of the late beginning and Super doesn't work for me either, so the problem might not even be the lack of seriousness. |
joe_g7 said: It is the worst of the series so far. Imo it's the best of the series so far lol |
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| It's pretty good if you can get pass the horrendous first 26 episodes that worked much better in movie format. Not the best of Dragon Ball, but still far above the fanfic level writing of GT. As of now, I'm ignoring the first arcs existences and rating it an overall 7/10 Black's arc really boosted the rate for me quite a bit besides the anime-only ruining the fun momentarily. If you want to get into the best version of Super however, I would HEAVILY recommend reading the manga instead, as it's far more elaborated and better written in many aspects (not to mention Toriyama is way more connected with the manga than with the anime, which took a LOT of liberties even in absolutely important parts). The anime still is really fun to watch in any case, and it comes first than the manga, so it's kinda worth to follow in a weekly basis for the sake of comparison (aka, "how is the manga going to fix that little bullshit they pulled in a certain episode"). |
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| From the story point of view, it's a downgrade from DBZ. But still, you watch DB not for story, but simply you want too see Goku's fighting. and also, the story isn't that bad either if you don't care about the power-logic in DB xD |
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Aardwolf94 said: Its an average series, nothing more & nothing less. Doesn't come close to DBZ, maybe thats just nostalgia talking but that series was just so entertaining and I liked that it took itself seriously to an extent. DBS seems to be one big joke Compared to dbz which wasn't that good in the first place dragon ball super makes gt look like a master piece. |
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| iorn said: Aardwolf94 said: Its an average series, nothing more & nothing less. Doesn't come close to DBZ, maybe thats just nostalgia talking but that series was just so entertaining and I liked that it took itself seriously to an extent. DBS seems to be one big joke Compared to dbz which wasn't that good in the first place dragon ball super makes gt look like a master piece. DBZ has nostalgia going for it + was much more serious which I preferred. Super's tone is awful GT was crap though, no arguments there but being better than GT is not difficult. |
| db super looks like trash and has a trash story if it wasnt dragon ball nobody would watch it. it really doesnt even look professional 80% of the time |
Aardwolf94 said: I said dragon ball super was worse than gtiorn said: Compared to dbz which wasn't that good in the first place dragon ball super makes gt look like a master piece. DBZ has nostalgia going for it + was much more serious which I preferred. Super's tone is awful GT was crap though, no arguments there but being better than GT is not difficult. |
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iorn said: Aardwolf94 said: I said dragon ball super was worse than gtDBZ has nostalgia going for it + was much more serious which I preferred. Super's tone is awful GT was crap though, no arguments there but being better than GT is not difficult. Oh sorry, didn't read it right. Anyway on that I would disagree because Pan was obnoxious and turning Goku into a kid was a horrible idea. Not to mention it just didn't feel like DB to me, DBS does even if its medicore |
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Aardwolf94 said: iorn said: I said dragon ball super was worse than gt Oh sorry, didn't read it right. Anyway on that I would disagree because Pan was obnoxious and turning Goku into a kid was a horrible idea. Not to mention it just didn't feel like DB to me, DBS does even if its medicore > Implying that pan is anymore obnoxious as hairless cat one and two. Or more insufferable than female broly, the fantastic noodle boy, and goku's fangirl. I'm not trying to say that gt is well written. I'm just saying that in terms of writing gt is leagues above super in every fathomable way. Gt introduces new planets Pretty much removes the dragon balls as a safe guard adding that much needed sense of tension the series needed. Delves into a little bit of the history of the sayian race. And most of all goku isn't a pansy that gets his face smacked around and Vegeta still acts like Vegeta. Super on the other hand introduces 5 concepts. Gods of destruction which aren't utilized in any meaningful way Angels who do nothing. The super dragon balls that help reinforced that none of the characters are in danger ever. The omi-king who does nothing meaningful. And the introduction of 7 universes I believe. Most of which have one trait that defines them. For a country or small planet that type of classification would be slightly justifiable silly, but still somewhat grounded (as loosely as it may be) in reality. But on the scale of a fucking universe no you can't just call something as big as a universe the "Justice universe" or the "beauty universe" at that point you're oversimplifying something that should have depth to the point where it's no longer believable. Having a universe with one trait defines it is like having a character that will only do, talk about, or thinking about one thing. |
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iorn said: Aardwolf94 said: Oh sorry, didn't read it right. Anyway on that I would disagree because Pan was obnoxious and turning Goku into a kid was a horrible idea. Not to mention it just didn't feel like DB to me, DBS does even if its medicore > Implying that pan is anymore obnoxious as hairless cat one and two. Or more insufferable than female broly, the fantastic noodle boy, and goku's fangirl. I'm not trying to say that gt is well written. I'm just saying that in terms of writing gt is leagues above super in every fathomable way. Gt introduces new planets Pretty much removes the dragon balls as a safe guard adding that much needed sense of tension the series needed. Delves into a little bit of the history of the sayian race. And most of all goku isn't a pansy that gets his face smacked around and Vegeta still acts like Vegeta. Super on the other hand introduces 5 concepts. Gods of destruction which aren't utilized in any meaningful way Angels who do nothing. The super dragon balls that help reinforced that none of the characters are in danger ever. The omi-king who does nothing meaningful. And the introduction of 7 universes I believe. Most of which have one trait that defines them. For a country or small planet that type of classification would be slightly justifiable silly, but still somewhat grounded (as loosely as it may be) in reality. But on the scale of a fucking universe no you can't just call something as big as a universe the "Justice universe" or the "beauty universe" at that point you're oversimplifying something that should have depth to the point where it's no longer believable. Having a universe with one trait defines it is like having a character that will only do, talk about, or thinking about one thing. Super will introduce new planets as well, its just a matter of time. Current arc removes the dragon balls as safe guards because no universe no dragon balls, only thing u can say here is that they will win because they are at the end of Z. Super already went into History about Saiyan Race with u6 saiyans planets plus the history introduced with the SSJGod. I dont see the difference between GT Goku and Super Goku, He acts dumb when nothing bad happens and when something really really bad happens and the damage is already done he gets serious. Vegeta always acts like Vegeta in Super and in GT we didnt see him much anyway. The Universes were just introduced like 18 episodes ago lol and most of the things you said might happen soon, if you think about it in Super we had 30 Episodes of the Movies that were Remake, a Tournament that introduced Universe 6, Lots of Fun Slice of Life and the Black arc, thats about it, not much has happened since we had a bunch of Slice of life episodes. |
Maitoz said: iorn said: > Implying that pan is anymore obnoxious as hairless cat one and two. Or more insufferable than female broly, the fantastic noodle boy, and goku's fangirl. I'm not trying to say that gt is well written. I'm just saying that in terms of writing gt is leagues above super in every fathomable way. Gt introduces new planets Pretty much removes the dragon balls as a safe guard adding that much needed sense of tension the series needed. Delves into a little bit of the history of the sayian race. And most of all goku isn't a pansy that gets his face smacked around and Vegeta still acts like Vegeta. Super on the other hand introduces 5 concepts. Gods of destruction which aren't utilized in any meaningful way Angels who do nothing. The super dragon balls that help reinforced that none of the characters are in danger ever. The omi-king who does nothing meaningful. And the introduction of 7 universes I believe. Most of which have one trait that defines them. For a country or small planet that type of classification would be slightly justifiable silly, but still somewhat grounded (as loosely as it may be) in reality. But on the scale of a fucking universe no you can't just call something as big as a universe the "Justice universe" or the "beauty universe" at that point you're oversimplifying something that should have depth to the point where it's no longer believable. Having a universe with one trait defines it is like having a character that will only do, talk about, or thinking about one thing. Super will introduce new planets as well, its just a matter of time. Current arc removes the dragon balls as safe guards because no universe no dragon balls, only thing u can say here is that they will win because they are at the end of Z. Super already went into History about Saiyan Race with u6 saiyans planets plus the history introduced with the SSJGod. I dont see the difference between GT Goku and Super Goku, He acts dumb when nothing bad happens and when something really really bad happens and the damage is already done he gets serious. Vegeta always acts like Vegeta in Super and in GT we didnt see him much anyway. The Universes were just introduced like 18 episodes ago lol and most of the things you said might happen soon, if you think about it in Super we had 30 Episodes of the Movies that were Remake, a Tournament that introduced Universe 6, Lots of Fun Slice of Life and the Black arc, thats about it, not much has happened since we had a bunch of Slice of life episodes. It's very unlikely that super will be able to give a planet any meaningful personality. No the current arc doesn't remove dragon balls as a safe guard. Because the super dragon balls exist. And even if they didn't win I highly doubt the pride troopers would do anything other than bring every universe back considering how strong their moral compass is. Not many actual dragon ball fans give a shit about the u6 saiyans because they aren't real saiyans they're just shitty knock offs. Remember when Vegeta danced for Berus? Yah no that's not Vegeta. The universes were introduced 18 episodes ago but the concept was well established near the start of the series. Speaking of which Goku's universe doesn't have any characterization None of the slice of life filler bullshit was fun. It was just a waste of time. And black arc was just one massive bad idea. We're 100+ episodes into this anime and nothing happened. |
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iorn said: Maitoz said: Super will introduce new planets as well, its just a matter of time. Current arc removes the dragon balls as safe guards because no universe no dragon balls, only thing u can say here is that they will win because they are at the end of Z. Super already went into History about Saiyan Race with u6 saiyans planets plus the history introduced with the SSJGod. I dont see the difference between GT Goku and Super Goku, He acts dumb when nothing bad happens and when something really really bad happens and the damage is already done he gets serious. Vegeta always acts like Vegeta in Super and in GT we didnt see him much anyway. The Universes were just introduced like 18 episodes ago lol and most of the things you said might happen soon, if you think about it in Super we had 30 Episodes of the Movies that were Remake, a Tournament that introduced Universe 6, Lots of Fun Slice of Life and the Black arc, thats about it, not much has happened since we had a bunch of Slice of life episodes. It's very unlikely that super will be able to give a planet any meaningful personality. No the current arc doesn't remove dragon balls as a safe guard. Because the super dragon balls exist. And even if they didn't win I highly doubt the pride troopers would do anything other than bring every universe back considering how strong their moral compass is. Not many actual dragon ball fans give a shit about the u6 saiyans because they aren't real saiyans they're just shitty knock offs. Remember when Vegeta danced for Berus? Yah no that's not Vegeta. The universes were introduced 18 episodes ago but the concept was well established near the start of the series. Speaking of which Goku's universe doesn't have any characterization None of the slice of life filler bullshit was fun. It was just a waste of time. And black arc was just one massive bad idea. We're 100+ episodes into this anime and nothing happened. Yep its true lol but Vegeta would have danced for beerus if it took place in DBZ either way, that was the smartest thing to do I guess, he knew his power because they told him that beerus whooped SSJ3 in 2 Hits. Vegeta Character is the most developed one in the entire series, He is a Family man now and I dont think its out of Character. Many people enjoyed the Slice of Life tho and Black Arc was solid until the last 3 eps or so. And Yes the current arc does remove the DB as safe guards, if they lose they dont get the wish and the other Dragon balls along with their universe is gone, doesnt matter what u11 wishes that doesnt mean anything, we dont know their wish and Im sure it was said that Jiren needed to get some sort of wish. |
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| People are way too harsh on DBS It's basically the same shit as DBZ where characters pull shit out of their asses whatever they need to and to make things more intense Want to talk about undeserved power ups ? DBZ is full with it Child Gohan become million times stronger every time he need to because of rage of muh potential, 5 year old kid was stronger than Goku after he went through all of DB, little shit was throwing hands with Frieza after he got rekt by Recome in same arc, funny thing is he did nothing but jobbing after he became adult Vegeta almost died many times to achieve SSJ but Trunks did it off screen, he is barely 7 years old Goten and Trunks were stronger than Goku because of fusion shit and they are 6-7 years old kids I can go until tomorrow with how many bullshit DBZ have .... At least Super is far batter than GT, which was all about Goku and Pan |
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Devil_Slayer said: People are way too harsh on DBS It's basically the same shit as DBZ where characters pull shit out of their asses whatever they need to and to make things more intense Want to talk about undeserved power ups ? DBZ is full with it Child Gohan become million times stronger every time he need to because of rage of muh potential, 5 year old kid was stronger than Goku after he went through all of DB, little shit was throwing hands with Frieza after he got rekt by Recome in same arc, funny thing is he did nothing but jobbing after he became adult Vegeta almost died many times to achieve SSJ but Trunks did it off screen, he is barely 7 years old Goten and Trunks were stronger than Goku because of fusion shit and they are 6-7 years old kids I can go until tomorrow with how many bullshit DBZ have .... At least Super is far batter than GT, which was all about Goku and Pan DBZ has nostalgia, a more serious tone and better villians to go for it. DBS just rehashes the same shit and is full of boring tournament arcs with no real stakes because everything is a joke. |
| ^I never said Super is better than Z i was just addressing in the main point why people hate on DBS which is the power scaling Everyone can agree DBS is mere cash grab and fan service for DB huge fan base so Toei can get more money from it Both GT and super are story that was never meant to be told, true DB story end with Z |
| After having a DB marathon (even GT): I can say only nostalgia makes people consider ‘DBS is downhill’. 1. Accusing Toei (wasn’t this studio adapted the entire DB series?): it’s normal to try to make cash, people loved DB and they wanted more, you watched too, right? 2. Blaming animation: perhaps everybody watch in original to see HQ or I don’t know make pauses every sec??! (couldn’t you just enjoy the flow of the story/episode? :O) 3. When it comes to humor (please come up any joke from the original series which made you laugh hard!), perhaps I’m biased Beerus or Whis, but when it comes to joking DBS is the best (I like when an anime isn’t 1D but makes you entertain in a lot of ways) 4. Inconsistencies: do you really ask it after Namek’ll blow up after 5 min. through 17 or whatever number of 24 min, episodes? And same goes for the power ups? I admit; surpassing gods is too much for me (the God of Destruction couldn’t reach UI but Goku yes, really, dude?, however e.g. blaming U6 saiyans’ development: if you recall Cabba need a few minutes to reach SSY. Everybody in the series gained level by fights, in U6 the planet of Saiyan’s still exists (and he gravitation is higher), it can makes sense that they are stronger when it comes to challenge. DB was more or less from the era of anime’s uprise, it created something really new. DBZ unwrapped it (and Gohan’s fight vs. Cell was epic in anime history, his execution of Jr.-s, the song under it, everything), but DB, DBZ and DBS have their own virtue. You can just enjoy them. |
| Devil_Slayer said: People are way too harsh on DBS It's basically the same shit as DBZ where characters pull shit out of their asses whatever they need to and to make things more intense Want to talk about undeserved power ups ? DBZ is full with it Child Gohan become million times stronger every time he need to because of rage of muh potential, 5 year old kid was stronger than Goku after he went through all of DB, little shit was throwing hands with Frieza after he got rekt by Recome in same arc, funny thing is he did nothing but jobbing after he became adult Vegeta almost died many times to achieve SSJ but Trunks did it off screen, he is barely 7 years old Goten and Trunks were stronger than Goku because of fusion shit and they are 6-7 years old kids I can go until tomorrow with how many bullshit DBZ have .... At least Super is far batter than GT, which was all about Goku and Pan Really the only bad character Gt had was Pan... Super on the other hand has Cabba, Cualifia, kale, that alien with an inflation fetish, Champa, Wies, All of the characters from the first universe to be eliminated, Zamasu , Frost and hit. Now I'm not saying that Akira is a master writer but I know he's at least semi-decent at it. Seeing super is like watching the final season of samurai jack. |
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| This series is just a case of "fuck you in the face fans, we just want more money, we would sell our grandma for a dime". I didn't watch it but come on, blue and pink hair lol what's next? It is just ridiculous, and people made fun of GT... GT is not a great series but at least is enjoyable, it had a plot and it wasn't garbage-animated. I can't conceive that it gets better in the latter episodes because the whole series' existence is pure nonsense, but whatever, if someone enjoys it better for him i guess |
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Yisus666 said: This series is just a case of "fuck you in the face fans, we just want more money, we would sell our grandma for a dime". I didn't watch it but come on, blue and pink hair lol what's next? It is just ridiculous, and people made fun of GT... GT is not a great series but at least is enjoyable, it had a plot and it wasn't garbage-animated. I can't conceive that it gets better in the latter episodes because the whole series' existence is pure nonsense, but whatever, if someone enjoys it better for him i guess >Admits that he doesn't watch Super. >Calls it shit anyways. Wew lad. |
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iorn said: Devil_Slayer said: People are way too harsh on DBS It's basically the same shit as DBZ where characters pull shit out of their asses whatever they need to and to make things more intense Want to talk about undeserved power ups ? DBZ is full with it Child Gohan become million times stronger every time he need to because of rage of muh potential, 5 year old kid was stronger than Goku after he went through all of DB, little shit was throwing hands with Frieza after he got rekt by Recome in same arc, funny thing is he did nothing but jobbing after he became adult Vegeta almost died many times to achieve SSJ but Trunks did it off screen, he is barely 7 years old Goten and Trunks were stronger than Goku because of fusion shit and they are 6-7 years old kids I can go until tomorrow with how many bullshit DBZ have .... At least Super is far batter than GT, which was all about Goku and Pan Really the only bad character Gt had was Pan... Super on the other hand has Cabba, Cualifia, kale, that alien with an inflation fetish, Champa, Wies, All of the characters from the first universe to be eliminated, Zamasu , Frost and hit. Now I'm not saying that Akira is a master writer but I know he's at least semi-decent at it. Seeing super is like watching the final season of samurai jack. Imagine having taste as shit as this guys. Am I right, fellas? |
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Dragonage2ftw said: Yisus666 said: This series is just a case of "fuck you in the face fans, we just want more money, we would sell our grandma for a dime". I didn't watch it but come on, blue and pink hair lol what's next? It is just ridiculous, and people made fun of GT... GT is not a great series but at least is enjoyable, it had a plot and it wasn't garbage-animated. I can't conceive that it gets better in the latter episodes because the whole series' existence is pure nonsense, but whatever, if someone enjoys it better for him i guess >Admits that he doesn't watch Super. >Calls it shit anyways. Wew lad. The thing that I haven't watched it does not imply that I haven't seen enough to base my arguments. I saw, when it started that it was simply the fucking movie they released months before, but a whole season of it, later the top notch quality animation and the new random new hair colors. I haven't seen this show, yet a friend of mine told me it's plot and made no sense to me. If it's good to you that's fine, but dragon ball died with gt for me. |
iorn said: Maitoz said: Super will introduce new planets as well, its just a matter of time. Current arc removes the dragon balls as safe guards because no universe no dragon balls, only thing u can say here is that they will win because they are at the end of Z. Super already went into History about Saiyan Race with u6 saiyans planets plus the history introduced with the SSJGod. I dont see the difference between GT Goku and Super Goku, He acts dumb when nothing bad happens and when something really really bad happens and the damage is already done he gets serious. Vegeta always acts like Vegeta in Super and in GT we didnt see him much anyway. The Universes were just introduced like 18 episodes ago lol and most of the things you said might happen soon, if you think about it in Super we had 30 Episodes of the Movies that were Remake, a Tournament that introduced Universe 6, Lots of Fun Slice of Life and the Black arc, thats about it, not much has happened since we had a bunch of Slice of life episodes. It's very unlikely that super will be able to give a planet any meaningful personality. No the current arc doesn't remove dragon balls as a safe guard. Because the super dragon balls exist. And even if they didn't win I highly doubt the pride troopers would do anything other than bring every universe back considering how strong their moral compass is. Not many actual dragon ball fans give a shit about the u6 saiyans because they aren't real saiyans they're just shitty knock offs. Remember when Vegeta danced for Berus? Yah no that's not Vegeta. The universes were introduced 18 episodes ago but the concept was well established near the start of the series. Speaking of which Goku's universe doesn't have any characterization None of the slice of life filler bullshit was fun. It was just a waste of time. And black arc was just one massive bad idea. We're 100+ episodes into this anime and nothing happened. 1. Vegeta literally becomes the type of person who will swallow his pride to protect his family and Earth. That’s what he did when he danced for Beerus. 2. We’ve barely scratched the surface of these Universes yet, and you’re already saying that they’re “defined by one gimmick”? Way to jump the gun. 3. The show has established a shit ton, and we’ve seen a load of new planets. Saying that there’s nothing new is dumb. This arc is the gateway to GETTING more stuff fleshed out from those other universes. A little patience wouldn’t hurt you. 4. Most real DB fans love the U6 Sayians. By the by, who died and made you the person who decides what a Sayian is and isn’t, again? Nice No True Scotsman Fallacy, though. 5. GT didn’t remove any safeguard. Even with the DB’s gone, we knew that Goku and Co. would never die. 6. Goku Black Arc > All of GT. The slice of life shit is debatably the best part of Super. Implying that any character in Super is equivocal to Pan is dumb, to say the least. TC, don’t listen to this thread. Myanimelist is notorious for being shitty and hating everything. May I suggest that you ask the Dragon Ball Reddit this question, instead? Also, most people love Super. |
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| 1. There's not a single event that happens that justifies Vegeta's change from a badass to a pansy that's willing to dance for an oversized hairless cat. And before you say "Oh he has a family now" That didn't stop him from risking the fate of the world just so he could fight cell. at full power." 2. We've barely scratched the surface of these universes and we're likely never going to explore them in depth. It's nice to have a bit of optimism now and then but expecting Akira Toyrima to tackle world building on such a scale is utterly insane. First off Akira Toyrima was never even that good at world building in the first place. And that skill only declined when we reached z. But only once we reached namek saga did the fantastic awfulness of Akira's world building become noticeable. We spent around 31 episodes namek we know next to nothing about that planet. It was blown up wished back and never revisited in any meaningful way. 3. We haven't seen any planets all we've seen was a bunch of barren Wastlands with nothing interesting on them. Most of the planets seen in super are clearly one shots created for no other reason than to take up time. Remember the bug planet that Vegeta blew up near the start of dragon ball z? No? Of course you fucking don't because it's not important. And neither are the majority of the planets that were shown in super. 4. Okay I'm going to explain why people like the U6 sayians specifically Kale and Cualifa. Reason one: The majority of the dbz fan base is only using them for wank and hentai material. Reason two: Feminism. 5: That's a dumb point of course they're not going to die they're the main characters. It's the same with the universe survival arc in dragon ball super. Of course Goku is going to win he has to. Because if he doesn't the story is over. 6: I mean Zamasu is flat out retarded...His plans don't make any damn sense and the only personality he has is angst and flawed logic. Both of these things would be fine if he wasn't regarded as a serious threat. Cualifa Aka marry sue incarnate and Kale aka bullshit power boost out of nowhere. |
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Dragonage2ftw said: iorn said: It's very unlikely that super will be able to give a planet any meaningful personality. No the current arc doesn't remove dragon balls as a safe guard. Because the super dragon balls exist. And even if they didn't win I highly doubt the pride troopers would do anything other than bring every universe back considering how strong their moral compass is. Not many actual dragon ball fans give a shit about the u6 saiyans because they aren't real saiyans they're just shitty knock offs. Remember when Vegeta danced for Berus? Yah no that's not Vegeta. The universes were introduced 18 episodes ago but the concept was well established near the start of the series. Speaking of which Goku's universe doesn't have any characterization None of the slice of life filler bullshit was fun. It was just a waste of time. And black arc was just one massive bad idea. We're 100+ episodes into this anime and nothing happened. 1. Vegeta literally becomes the type of person who will swallow his pride to protect his family and Earth. That’s what he did when he danced for Beerus. 2. We’ve barely scratched the surface of these Universes yet, and you’re already saying that they’re “defined by one gimmick”? Way to jump the gun. 3. The show has established a shit ton, and we’ve seen a load of new planets. Saying that there’s nothing new is dumb. This arc is the gateway to GETTING more stuff fleshed out from those other universes. A little patience wouldn’t hurt you. 4. Most real DB fans love the U6 Sayians. By the by, who died and made you the person who decides what a Sayian is and isn’t, again? Nice No True Scotsman Fallacy, though. 5. GT didn’t remove any safeguard. Even with the DB’s gone, we knew that Goku and Co. would never die. 6. Goku Black Arc > All of GT. The slice of life shit is debatably the best part of Super. Implying that any character in Super is equivocal to Pan is dumb, to say the least. TC, don’t listen to this thread. Myanimelist is notorious for being shitty and hating everything. May I suggest that you ask the Dragon Ball Reddit this question, instead? Also, most people love Super. Of course you would tell people to go to the dbs reddit page...Most of the people there won't even be able to give a valid reason why they like the show because all of them are 12-13. That also means all criticism valid or otherwise is down-voted because the dbz subreddit isn't filled with fans it's filled with fanboys. It's about as toxic as the rick and morty fan base. Chances are if you start a thread with "I don't like____" Then you're going to get down voted unless the rest of the community feels the same way. |
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