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Oct 21, 2017 2:38 PM
#101
| Bad Planning may also play a Role in it. Why do most People have to work around the same Time and go to the same Directions at the same Time? If the Worktime and Workplace can be chosen more flexibly, then there don't have to be over-filled Streets and overcrowded public Transport. -Melancholy- said: Few People aren't a Majority, nor everyone. It's nothing to be concerned about, as long as only a small Minority is gay or has otherwise non-hetereosexual Characteristics. Most people are still straight, so who cares if a few people are gay... edit: razor39999 said: Not every Change is for the better or even good.That just means the culture might change, in the future. Just like it has in the past. No big deal. |
Oct 21, 2017 2:39 PM
#102
thewiru said: Well, most homophobes i've met were cunts, but i don't find many in the social circles i'm at. That being said, when you ask if i "Support LGBT", i have two answers: If you're talking about people: Well, i really don't care whether if someone is L, or G, or B or T, as long as you act normally and not like a jerk, so you could say yes. The LGBT as a political movement, however, i'm pretty against. I wish more people had your point of view so we wouldn't have all these stupid forum fights. If you act like a decent human being then I'll be a decent human being back. If you act like an asshole I don't care what you identify with I'm not going to like or agree with you. |
Oct 21, 2017 2:39 PM
#103
| No I don't automatically hate homophobes, but if someone is actively being a douchebag, then obviously I won't like them. |
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Oct 21, 2017 2:43 PM
#104
skyfighter said: AyameTomoko said: @skyfighter, Nope. It was excepted as an accurate source when I used it for a research paper. But if you want something more up to date, here you go. https://www.livescience.com/17913-advantages-gay-parents.html This article was posted on the same year yours was. > Gay parents "tend to be more motivated, more committed than heterosexual parents on average, because they chose to be parents," said Abbie Goldberg, a psychologist at Clark University in Massachusetts who researches gay and lesbian parenting. where was those motivational parents when those kids started having significantly lower levels of income, more receipt of public welfare, lower levels of employment, poorer mental and physical health, poorer relationship quality with current partner, and higher levels of smoking and criminality. Here a study (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/drt/2016/2410392/) from 2016 sugessting that homo kids have." the adults raised by same-sex parents were at over twice the risk of depression as persons raised by man-woman parents.” In addition, there was an “elevated risk associated with imbalanced closeness and parental child abuse in family of origin; depression, suicidality, and anxiety at age 15; and stigma and obesity." Okay on the first part, studies have been shown that the only negative impact children of gay couples have is dealing with bigots and the harassment from others. On the second part, I think you missed that that applies equally to anyone that isn't a direct parent, wich includes foster praents, stepfathers/mothers and so on, has nothing to do with being gay or anything, and everything to do with those not biologically parents have problems. Society treats us LBGT like garbage, and people then point to the mental problems and issues we have due to that and want to blame it on being gay. Guess what I live in Canada and alot of the problems and doomsaying havn't happened. |
Oct 21, 2017 2:45 PM
#105
| I never really got why someone can hate other people sexuality and things the like. I'm a trans/bi guy mtf person myself. Not an activist of anything, but I did get a fair share of mindless hate around, online and offline. Same person as before starting hrt 10 months ago here though, aside from sentimental changes, so makes no sense. Still it became something that I need to mention at the forefront of any possible friendship really, because I had many instances of normal chatting and having fun with someone, only to be treated bad after the person see me, again, makes no sense, go figure. |
Oct 21, 2017 2:50 PM
#106
Noboru said: -Melancholy- said: My Parents aren't the fundamental Types, nor are they anywhere close to be deeply religious and they would be even okay even if I were to introduce them to a Guy. It's clear your parents are Christian and have spread lies in your ears. You have fallen to a state you can't climb out of, because for the record, some people are born gay, and some people CHOOSE homosexuality. Besides, my religious Beliefs and/or familiar Background has nothing to do with my Stances regarding Homosexuality. Moreover, Homosexuality can't be chosen. It's something you are born with. Who cares if no more people are being born? This Earth is climbing to 8 billion people and at this rate, we'll be overpopulated soon. Educate yourself. The Earth is not over-populated everywhere and there will be negative economic Effects if suddenly Millions of People vanish in more industrialized Countries. Without Children, there's no one to pay into Social Systems and Immigration alone can't get rid of the Problem, but can cause even additional ones when they come from Cultures that are incompatible with the Host Country and thus the Chances for social Conflicts rise. Studies have shown that gay people can choose. Ask some people around the forums, too. They'll give you an honest answer. I believe some people supplied links to this, too. And if not, I'd love to hear where your sources are from, and maybe you'll convince me. Sad thing is, there is no source of this. The Earth will not suffer economic issues from the loss of a few children. This is a bizzare theory that makes literally no sense at all. A couple of gay people will not trigger the social downfall of the human race. This is stupid and makes me believe all of your points are fictitious and coming from nothing but the mind. |
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Oct 21, 2017 2:50 PM
#107
| I always thought people scared of gay people were more or so scared of themselves being gay. In general people can love who they want. |
Oct 21, 2017 2:56 PM
#108
PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: @skyfighter chinese cartoons and your computer are unnatural. Homosexuality exists in nature, and not only amongst humans. Your point? You literally picked the most bullshit argument you could, right after "it's god's will". The "nature" argument nevers works on anyone with a tiny bit of common sense. Elaborate how homosexuality exist in the nature? I know I can google it, but I want you to give me the source. I could do that but it'd be beside the point. There are many, many reasons why the appeal to nature is a bullshit argument 99% of the time. I'll just leave you with this short quote found on wikipedia after 5s of research: Julian Baggini explains that "[E]ven if we can agree that some things are natural and some are not, what follows from this? The answer is: nothing. There is no factual reason to suppose that what is natural is good (or at least better) and what is unnatural is bad (or at least worse)."[4] And again, your computer isn't natural if we go by the vague, generally accepted definition of natural. Why are you using it? Isn't it unnatural=bad? Morals. Take this example: If you were to two family members and made them have safe sex, wouldnt that be wrong. (hopefully you agree on this one.) Then why is homosexual sex not wrong? It should be wrong to since that one is wrong too. If you say that incest is ok, then my whole arguments falls down, however it applies to must people so iam just gonna leave it there. Here are some that I think you 100% would understand. 1.Gay are not the proper role models to raise children. Children need a real female mom and a real male dad, one of each. All recent studies prove that children are best raised by a man and a woman. https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-06/e-sce060712.php Here is a qoute from an article featuring this research (http://dailysignal.com//2012/06/11/new-research-on-children-of-same-sex-parents-suggests-differences-matter/)= 2. Homosexual men are more than twice as likely to spread HIV and other STDs than straight men, which applies to lesbian woman too. >comparing homosexuality to incest Dude my brain hurts at how stupid a comparison that is. Why cant i? Depending who I am arguing against it is a good argument. Incest is something that is actively avoided in mammals if they have a choice in partners, it's not something you find naturally. There was even a term coined for it called the Westermarck effect which basically means that those raised together are unlikely to develop sexual feelings for each other. PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: @skyfighter chinese cartoons and your computer are unnatural. Homosexuality exists in nature, and not only amongst humans. Your point? You literally picked the most bullshit argument you could, right after "it's god's will". The "nature" argument nevers works on anyone with a tiny bit of common sense. Elaborate how homosexuality exist in the nature? I know I can google it, but I want you to give me the source. I could do that but it'd be beside the point. There are many, many reasons why the appeal to nature is a bullshit argument 99% of the time. I'll just leave you with this short quote found on wikipedia after 5s of research: Julian Baggini explains that "[E]ven if we can agree that some things are natural and some are not, what follows from this? The answer is: nothing. There is no factual reason to suppose that what is natural is good (or at least better) and what is unnatural is bad (or at least worse)."[4] And again, your computer isn't natural if we go by the vague, generally accepted definition of natural. Why are you using it? Isn't it unnatural=bad? Morals. Take this example: If you were to two family members and made them have safe sex, wouldnt that be wrong. (hopefully you agree on this one.) Then why is homosexual sex not wrong? It should be wrong to since that one is wrong too. If you say that incest is ok, then my whole arguments falls down, however it applies to must people so iam just gonna leave it there. Here are some that I think you 100% would understand. 1.Gay are not the proper role models to raise children. Children need a real female mom and a real male dad, one of each. All recent studies prove that children are best raised by a man and a woman. https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-06/e-sce060712.php Here is a qoute from an article featuring this research (http://dailysignal.com//2012/06/11/new-research-on-children-of-same-sex-parents-suggests-differences-matter/)= 2. Homosexual men are more than twice as likely to spread HIV and other STDs than straight men, which applies to lesbian woman too. >comparing homosexuality to incest Dude my brain hurts at how stupid a comparison that is. Why cant i? Depending who I am arguing against it is a good argument. Incest is something that is actively avoided in mammals if they have a choice in partners, it's not something you find naturally. There was even a term coined for it called the Westermarck effect which basically means that those raised together are unlikely to develop sexual feelings for each other. See what i said. I said " safe incest". |
Oct 21, 2017 3:07 PM
#109
| I’m pro LGBT because I’m not an asshole that judges others for how they live their lives. Also, yes, I love the argument homophobes make when they claim they’re okay with people being gay, but freak the fuck out when they’re within the vicinity of a two men holding hands. But it’s okay if it’s two women because lol lezbos are hot XD |
Oct 21, 2017 3:08 PM
#110
Why do I have to hate/support any of them? Sounds like effort. I just prefer to not be friends with someone who can't deal with homosexuality, as I like gay stuff and do gay jokes. Or with someone, who can't talk about anything other than LGBT issues and thinks every joke is offensive (SJWs). Both kinds are boring. |
Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus and Gays Are From Uranus |
Oct 21, 2017 3:13 PM
#111
skyfighter said: PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: @skyfighter chinese cartoons and your computer are unnatural. Homosexuality exists in nature, and not only amongst humans. Your point? You literally picked the most bullshit argument you could, right after "it's god's will". The "nature" argument nevers works on anyone with a tiny bit of common sense. Elaborate how homosexuality exist in the nature? I know I can google it, but I want you to give me the source. I could do that but it'd be beside the point. There are many, many reasons why the appeal to nature is a bullshit argument 99% of the time. I'll just leave you with this short quote found on wikipedia after 5s of research: Julian Baggini explains that "[E]ven if we can agree that some things are natural and some are not, what follows from this? The answer is: nothing. There is no factual reason to suppose that what is natural is good (or at least better) and what is unnatural is bad (or at least worse)."[4] And again, your computer isn't natural if we go by the vague, generally accepted definition of natural. Why are you using it? Isn't it unnatural=bad? Morals. Take this example: If you were to two family members and made them have safe sex, wouldnt that be wrong. (hopefully you agree on this one.) Then why is homosexual sex not wrong? It should be wrong to since that one is wrong too. If you say that incest is ok, then my whole arguments falls down, however it applies to must people so iam just gonna leave it there. Here are some that I think you 100% would understand. 1.Gay are not the proper role models to raise children. Children need a real female mom and a real male dad, one of each. All recent studies prove that children are best raised by a man and a woman. https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-06/e-sce060712.php Here is a qoute from an article featuring this research (http://dailysignal.com//2012/06/11/new-research-on-children-of-same-sex-parents-suggests-differences-matter/)= 2. Homosexual men are more than twice as likely to spread HIV and other STDs than straight men, which applies to lesbian woman too. >comparing homosexuality to incest Dude my brain hurts at how stupid a comparison that is. Why cant i? Depending who I am arguing against it is a good argument. Incest is something that is actively avoided in mammals if they have a choice in partners, it's not something you find naturally. There was even a term coined for it called the Westermarck effect which basically means that those raised together are unlikely to develop sexual feelings for each other. PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: @skyfighter chinese cartoons and your computer are unnatural. Homosexuality exists in nature, and not only amongst humans. Your point? You literally picked the most bullshit argument you could, right after "it's god's will". The "nature" argument nevers works on anyone with a tiny bit of common sense. Elaborate how homosexuality exist in the nature? I know I can google it, but I want you to give me the source. I could do that but it'd be beside the point. There are many, many reasons why the appeal to nature is a bullshit argument 99% of the time. I'll just leave you with this short quote found on wikipedia after 5s of research: Julian Baggini explains that "[E]ven if we can agree that some things are natural and some are not, what follows from this? The answer is: nothing. There is no factual reason to suppose that what is natural is good (or at least better) and what is unnatural is bad (or at least worse)."[4] And again, your computer isn't natural if we go by the vague, generally accepted definition of natural. Why are you using it? Isn't it unnatural=bad? Morals. Take this example: If you were to two family members and made them have safe sex, wouldnt that be wrong. (hopefully you agree on this one.) Then why is homosexual sex not wrong? It should be wrong to since that one is wrong too. If you say that incest is ok, then my whole arguments falls down, however it applies to must people so iam just gonna leave it there. Here are some that I think you 100% would understand. 1.Gay are not the proper role models to raise children. Children need a real female mom and a real male dad, one of each. All recent studies prove that children are best raised by a man and a woman. https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-06/e-sce060712.php Here is a qoute from an article featuring this research (http://dailysignal.com//2012/06/11/new-research-on-children-of-same-sex-parents-suggests-differences-matter/)= 2. Homosexual men are more than twice as likely to spread HIV and other STDs than straight men, which applies to lesbian woman too. >comparing homosexuality to incest Dude my brain hurts at how stupid a comparison that is. Why cant i? Depending who I am arguing against it is a good argument. Incest is something that is actively avoided in mammals if they have a choice in partners, it's not something you find naturally. There was even a term coined for it called the Westermarck effect which basically means that those raised together are unlikely to develop sexual feelings for each other. See what i said. I said " safe incest". Your hypothetically "safe incest" does nothing to disprove my earlier point. It's natural for animals to avoid reproducing with those related to themselves. Honestly it feels like you're grasping at straws right now after multiple people have refuted your arguments. |
Oct 21, 2017 3:25 PM
#112
| being "gay" or "bisexual" or whatever is a shallow highschool-esq identity, like being a stoner or jock. the only difference is, they never grow out of it. instead they try to be as obnoxious as possible by forcing their identity into other peoples lives. demanding they be given the "right" to make other people to accept them |
Oct 21, 2017 3:29 PM
#113
| Indeed I do. Not LGBT supporter, I would call myself LGB supporter. Because trans is just trying to surgically make a penis or vulva in a female or male respectively. But still your chromosomes will say that you are a boy or a girl. However because of that, now we have girls in the boy scouts... I don't really care, because I'm not a USA resident, but it's just plain stupid to have girls in the BOY scouts. |
Oct 21, 2017 3:30 PM
#114
-Melancholy- said: Anyone who hates homosexual people or anything else like that are clearly attached to the past, or were taught that homosexuality is bad by very Christian/idiotic parents. There is nothing "unnatural" about a sexuality. People who are homosexual don't choose to be that way - they are BORN that way. If it was so "unnatural" then why are people born like that? Exactly. It's not a way of thinking. It's a preference in partners, that's it. So yea, I support it. Anything other than Heterosexual is unusual. It's not normal. Just because something's in nature, doesn't mean it's normal. |
Oct 21, 2017 3:46 PM
#115
Nyu said: -Melancholy- said: Anyone who hates homosexual people or anything else like that are clearly attached to the past, or were taught that homosexuality is bad by very Christian/idiotic parents. There is nothing "unnatural" about a sexuality. People who are homosexual don't choose to be that way - they are BORN that way. If it was so "unnatural" then why are people born like that? Exactly. It's not a way of thinking. It's a preference in partners, that's it. So yea, I support it. Anything other than Heterosexual is unusual. It's not normal. Just because something's in nature, doesn't mean it's normal. I have to agree. I support LGBT but it is abnormal. We are biologically designed to pair with the other gender. That doesn’t mean being LGBT is wrong though. I do not support the “Q” though. Nobody is autisgender or vapogender or _____. That’s just nonsensical. |
Oct 21, 2017 3:47 PM
#116
| This thread is both hilarious and sad to read thru lmao. Really, it's not that hard to just not mistreat other people simply because their sexuality doesnt fit your worldview, and recognize that LGBT+ people around the globe are still being mistreated. Some countries still consider it a crime, some countries deny LGBT+ people basic human rights, hate crimes happens still, even in developed countries where marriage equality is a thing. You are a homophobe if you don't think LGBT+ people deserve basic human rights and equality. I don't care what your "definition" of homophobe is, you're literally arguing semantics at that point. Honestly I don't care if your beliefs or worldview see gay people as second-rate humans, but don't be mad when people decide to call you a homophobe then. |
Oct 21, 2017 3:48 PM
#117
| I don't really care. I don't support the LGBT but neither am I against them. Just treat them like any other human out there and remove all those horrible gay parades that only make them looks worse and go against their original intention. |
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Oct 21, 2017 3:50 PM
#118
razor39999 said: What if it's too late by then?I know, but they still happen. I'll start fighting the change as soon as it starts going against secularism. -Melancholy- said: What Studies? I thought it was General Knowledge that sexual Orientation is predestined. If they can choose or rather: are attracted to both Sexes, then they are born bisexual. Studies have shown that gay people can choose. The Earth will not suffer economic issues from the loss of a few children. This is a bizzare theory that makes literally no sense at all. A couple of gay people will not trigger the social downfall of the human race. This is stupid and makes me believe all of your points are fictitious and coming from nothing but the mind. Your apparent Lack of Reading Comprehension Skills and of Common Sense makes me wonder whether it is genuine or just played. few ≠ Majority ≠ everyone few ≠ Millions Minority ≠ Majority Millions of People dying in some random, underdeveloped Country in Africa ≠ Millions of People dying in a highly developed Country that contributes several Times more to the World Economy Overpopulation exists ≠ everywhere is overpopulated I don't like to repeat myself that much, so if you can't understand those few Points above or play stupid on Purpose, then there is nothing for me to add. |
Oct 21, 2017 3:51 PM
#119
| I don't give a shit about any of that, as long as no one start shoving leftist/lgbt propaganda down my throat i'm chill |
| Am i supposed to put some philosofical quote that makes me look smart in here, or what? |
Oct 21, 2017 3:55 PM
#120
skyfighter said: Elaborate how homosexuality exist in the nature? I know I can google it, but I want you to give me the source. Since you never went to school I'll help you with an educational video. |
Oct 21, 2017 3:55 PM
#121
| @Ivich, it's more of a classification. But yeah, I don't like it when people where it as a badge. And by default everyone should have equal protection under the law. It's in the 14th amendment of the constitution. So demanding to be protected against employment discrimination, discriminatory refusal of service, and not getting thrown out of your apartment for who you are really isn't asking too much since everyone else is protected in that way. |
Oct 21, 2017 3:55 PM
#122
| I don't hate them. I somehow understand them. Not an LGBT supporter either. I don't see the need to be one. |
"We're all human. We all make mistakes sometimes. Just don't make mistakes when lives are at stake." ~ Great-Grandmother Mikage, Gin no Saji |
Oct 21, 2017 4:10 PM
#123
| I support Trump so that makes me a Nazi fascist anti LBGT white supremacist homosexuality, transgenders, pedophilia, etc. these are all mental illness |
Oct 21, 2017 4:29 PM
#124
Oct 21, 2017 6:02 PM
#126
| I dislike homophobes as I find them to be ignorant and uneducated, which are qualities I really despise. Not sure I would say I'm a supporter per se as I don't care about LGBTs more than other people in general. I just don't think there's anything weird or wrong with them. |
| "In this world, evil can arise from the best of intentions. And there is good which can come from evil intentions" |
Oct 21, 2017 6:35 PM
#127
S-quare22 said: I really hate homos imo , I find them vile and annoying Thanks for stating what I was going to say. jk i dont hate gays kek |
Oct 21, 2017 6:41 PM
#128
RegularOne said: I don't give a shit about any of that, as long as no one start shoving leftist/lgbt propaganda down my throat i'm chill Sounds like you're a #freethinker Except they're not though. |
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Oct 21, 2017 7:01 PM
#129
Except they're not though. Except they are and they always have been |
Oct 21, 2017 7:42 PM
#130
| homophobes aren't all evil people that treat homosexuality like a disease. also i don't think that gay pride or supporting lgbt does anything to help homophobia. In fact, i think it just makes it worse. i think it's important to know what homophobia actually is. if you're going by the standard definition of homophobia, it doesn't make sense at all. but if you understand it as a fear of one's own sexuality or feelings, then it makes sense. A lot of people are homophobic and probably don't even realize it. It's a natural thing, to question one's own identity, and important to make your own choices for who you want to be. |
Oct 21, 2017 7:58 PM
#131
| @Valaskjalf, except it isn't and it never has been. |
Oct 21, 2017 7:59 PM
#132
Maybe in your fantasy world these thing are normal, but not in real life. |
Oct 21, 2017 8:01 PM
#133
| @Valaskjalf, maybe in your fantasy world, being gay is a mental disorder, but not in real life. |
Oct 21, 2017 8:02 PM
#134
AyameTomoko said: @Valaskjalf, maybe in your fantasy world, being gay is a mental disorder, but not in real life. Don't worry, one day you'll wake up from your dream and see how things truly are. |
Oct 21, 2017 8:03 PM
#135
| @Valaskjalf, or maybe wake up in bed with another man... |
Oct 21, 2017 8:25 PM
#136
| I don't hate them. I just find them ignorant. As long as they don't spread any hate speech, I let them be. It sure saddens me. And yes, I am in the LGBT community. |
Oct 21, 2017 9:25 PM
#137
| I don't really hate anyone. No I am not an LGBT supporter. The "LGB" part is fine. Trans people have mental issues and need therapy. |
Oct 21, 2017 9:42 PM
#139
| neutral but i silently support the LGBT (not actively) homophobia is about disgust anyway and everyone have a different level of disgust and stronger disgust cannot be easily reason or controlled too |
Oct 21, 2017 10:27 PM
#140
| Okay so like... Yes, of course I dislike homophobes. Not so much as people but more just in the way they see the world. I'm not religious, so I can't really get how people could possibly think that a dude kissing on a dude is a punishable offense. And those who see it as gross or whatever.. I'm just like.. then maybe don't look at it? You being grossed out by me kissing another girl isn't gonna stop my gayness. So just don't look. HOWEVER If I must be totally honest here, this post feels like it was posted just to start an argument. The anime community is a pretty diverse and accepting place, and there are plenty of gay people (as well as people who aren't assholes and let gay people do their own thing) in it. But of course there are some who don't "agree with the homosexual lifestyle" and I feel like this post is only here to start shit with those people. I didn't read all the comments and I'm not gonna, but I'm willing to bet there's a t least one where someone's all "Fuck gay people!!1!1!" And then people getting all up on their case about it. Which I'm fairly certain was the intent here. Which you know... isn't cool. Don't start conflict for no reason. |
Oct 21, 2017 11:07 PM
#141
Nyu said: -Melancholy- said: Anyone who hates homosexual people or anything else like that are clearly attached to the past, or were taught that homosexuality is bad by very Christian/idiotic parents. There is nothing "unnatural" about a sexuality. People who are homosexual don't choose to be that way - they are BORN that way. If it was so "unnatural" then why are people born like that? Exactly. It's not a way of thinking. It's a preference in partners, that's it. So yea, I support it. Anything other than Heterosexual is unusual. It's not normal. Just because something's in nature, doesn't mean it's normal. Gret , Now you just sound like shiro from fate stay night |
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Oct 21, 2017 11:19 PM
#142
| I support the LGB movement, but I would date a homophobe/transphobe because no matter how you look at it, there is something intrinsically WRONG about homosexuals and transsexuals. |
Oct 21, 2017 11:48 PM
#143
Oct 22, 2017 12:10 AM
#144
| Judging by the mass hysteria and sense of entitlement, "homophobe" seems to have been loosely redefined to mean anyone who isn't sufficiently in line with the LGBT movement. Which, in that case, would mean I'm a major offender. I'm actually fairly libertarian on sexual orientation. "Live and let live", if you will. I don't care about any initial in LGBT nor do I want it to become part of my personal life. While I prefer seeing healthy hetero relationships, I don't think less of homosexual people. If I were invited to a friend's same sex wedding, I would attend and wish him the best for a happy & fulfilling future. I just don't think "Yay I'm glad people are gay! It's so wonderful! It's totally the best!" I don't measure someone's worth by who they're attracted to. |
ZekkenshinOct 22, 2017 12:13 AM
Oct 22, 2017 12:34 AM
#145
| I mean...why do people even care who others are attracted to? Whether you like pussy or dick, it's not anyone's business. That's it...there's nothing else to say. |
Oct 22, 2017 1:10 AM
#146
zodd0 said: skyfighter said: Elaborate how homosexuality exist in the nature? I know I can google it, but I want you to give me the source. Since you never went to school I'll help you with an educational video. This is rather interesting since you could extend these scientific findings to ask for tolerance for more things. Things such as pedophilia, rape or even canabilism so these types or arguments goes more againt you than me in the long run. Also homo parents are shitty, anyway. Proof= study from 2016 (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/drt/2016/2410392/) Study from 2012: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/drt/2016/2410392/ |
Oct 22, 2017 1:13 AM
#147
PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: @skyfighter chinese cartoons and your computer are unnatural. Homosexuality exists in nature, and not only amongst humans. Your point? You literally picked the most bullshit argument you could, right after "it's god's will". The "nature" argument nevers works on anyone with a tiny bit of common sense. Elaborate how homosexuality exist in the nature? I know I can google it, but I want you to give me the source. I could do that but it'd be beside the point. There are many, many reasons why the appeal to nature is a bullshit argument 99% of the time. I'll just leave you with this short quote found on wikipedia after 5s of research: Julian Baggini explains that "[E]ven if we can agree that some things are natural and some are not, what follows from this? The answer is: nothing. There is no factual reason to suppose that what is natural is good (or at least better) and what is unnatural is bad (or at least worse)."[4] And again, your computer isn't natural if we go by the vague, generally accepted definition of natural. Why are you using it? Isn't it unnatural=bad? Morals. Take this example: If you were to two family members and made them have safe sex, wouldnt that be wrong. (hopefully you agree on this one.) Then why is homosexual sex not wrong? It should be wrong to since that one is wrong too. If you say that incest is ok, then my whole arguments falls down, however it applies to must people so iam just gonna leave it there. Here are some that I think you 100% would understand. 1.Gay are not the proper role models to raise children. Children need a real female mom and a real male dad, one of each. All recent studies prove that children are best raised by a man and a woman. https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-06/e-sce060712.php Here is a qoute from an article featuring this research (http://dailysignal.com//2012/06/11/new-research-on-children-of-same-sex-parents-suggests-differences-matter/)= 2. Homosexual men are more than twice as likely to spread HIV and other STDs than straight men, which applies to lesbian woman too. >comparing homosexuality to incest Dude my brain hurts at how stupid a comparison that is. Why cant i? Depending who I am arguing against it is a good argument. Incest is something that is actively avoided in mammals if they have a choice in partners, it's not something you find naturally. There was even a term coined for it called the Westermarck effect which basically means that those raised together are unlikely to develop sexual feelings for each other. PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: PinkChardam said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: skyfighter said: Clebardman said: @skyfighter chinese cartoons and your computer are unnatural. Homosexuality exists in nature, and not only amongst humans. Your point? You literally picked the most bullshit argument you could, right after "it's god's will". The "nature" argument nevers works on anyone with a tiny bit of common sense. Elaborate how homosexuality exist in the nature? I know I can google it, but I want you to give me the source. I could do that but it'd be beside the point. There are many, many reasons why the appeal to nature is a bullshit argument 99% of the time. I'll just leave you with this short quote found on wikipedia after 5s of research: Julian Baggini explains that "[E]ven if we can agree that some things are natural and some are not, what follows from this? The answer is: nothing. There is no factual reason to suppose that what is natural is good (or at least better) and what is unnatural is bad (or at least worse)."[4] And again, your computer isn't natural if we go by the vague, generally accepted definition of natural. Why are you using it? Isn't it unnatural=bad? Morals. Take this example: If you were to two family members and made them have safe sex, wouldnt that be wrong. (hopefully you agree on this one.) Then why is homosexual sex not wrong? It should be wrong to since that one is wrong too. If you say that incest is ok, then my whole arguments falls down, however it applies to must people so iam just gonna leave it there. Here are some that I think you 100% would understand. 1.Gay are not the proper role models to raise children. Children need a real female mom and a real male dad, one of each. All recent studies prove that children are best raised by a man and a woman. https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-06/e-sce060712.php Here is a qoute from an article featuring this research (http://dailysignal.com//2012/06/11/new-research-on-children-of-same-sex-parents-suggests-differences-matter/)= 2. Homosexual men are more than twice as likely to spread HIV and other STDs than straight men, which applies to lesbian woman too. >comparing homosexuality to incest Dude my brain hurts at how stupid a comparison that is. Why cant i? Depending who I am arguing against it is a good argument. Incest is something that is actively avoided in mammals if they have a choice in partners, it's not something you find naturally. There was even a term coined for it called the Westermarck effect which basically means that those raised together are unlikely to develop sexual feelings for each other. See what i said. I said " safe incest". Your hypothetically "safe incest" does nothing to disprove my earlier point. It's natural for animals to avoid reproducing with those related to themselves. Honestly it feels like you're grasping at straws right now after multiple people have refuted your arguments. But do you find it wrong? They are not hurting anyone? |
Oct 22, 2017 1:20 AM
#148
wolfwing said: skyfighter said: AyameTomoko said: @skyfighter, Nope. It was excepted as an accurate source when I used it for a research paper. But if you want something more up to date, here you go. https://www.livescience.com/17913-advantages-gay-parents.html This article was posted on the same year yours was. > Gay parents "tend to be more motivated, more committed than heterosexual parents on average, because they chose to be parents," said Abbie Goldberg, a psychologist at Clark University in Massachusetts who researches gay and lesbian parenting. where was those motivational parents when those kids started having significantly lower levels of income, more receipt of public welfare, lower levels of employment, poorer mental and physical health, poorer relationship quality with current partner, and higher levels of smoking and criminality. Here a study (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/drt/2016/2410392/) from 2016 sugessting that homo kids have." the adults raised by same-sex parents were at over twice the risk of depression as persons raised by man-woman parents.” In addition, there was an “elevated risk associated with imbalanced closeness and parental child abuse in family of origin; depression, suicidality, and anxiety at age 15; and stigma and obesity." Okay on the first part, studies have been shown that the only negative impact children of gay couples have is dealing with bigots and the harassment from others. On the second part, I think you missed that that applies equally to anyone that isn't a direct parent, wich includes foster praents, stepfathers/mothers and so on, has nothing to do with being gay or anything, and everything to do with those not biologically parents have problems. Society treats us LBGT like garbage, and people then point to the mental problems and issues we have due to that and want to blame it on being gay. Guess what I live in Canada and alot of the problems and doomsaying havn't happened. See this study: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-06/e-sce060712.php And also things like smoking and lower income is not done by harassment. Harassment against gays is low. This is happening becouse thats how you guys are. |
Oct 22, 2017 1:24 AM
#149
AyameTomoko said: @skyfighter, so why do you think those kids are depressed or suicidal? Do you actually think it has to do anything with the parents being of the same sex? I'd be more willing to bet it's because they get shit for having gay parents. That wouldn't be surprising either since being LGB in high school gives you a whopping 2 to 7 times higher risk of committing suicide. Which is of course do to social stigma. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662085/ So kids having a higher risk of depression, obesity, and suicide because they have gay parents isn't too hard to believe. But I don't think it's the parent's sexuality's fault. A bad parent is just a bad parent, regardless of the structure, and people will bully you if you're the odd one out. https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-06/e-sce060712.php being harrased still does not explain this. Heck even drugsproblems comes from homos. Homosexual men and lesbians are much more likely to have serious substance abuse problems. Gay Men and Substance Abuse: A Basic Guide for Addicts and Those Who Care for Them - available at Amazon. "Can I blame gay culture for my drug addiction, please?" http://marksking.com/my-fabulous-disease/can-i-blame-gay-culture-for-my-drug-addiction-please/ Lesbians and Substance Abuse http://www.curvemag.com/Curve-Magazine/Web-Articles-2010/Lesbians-and-Substance-Abuse/ |
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