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| Great episode as always. But the lack of backstory point for Aviceborn was really not cool. Even Hassan in Fate/Zero had a better backstory. And btw, when Chiron said - Hero who even doesn't fear God, did he mean Astolfo? |
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dasprn said: Great episode as always. But the lack of backstory point for Aviceborn was really not cool. Even Hassan in Fate/Zero had a better backstory. And btw, when Chiron said - Hero who even doesn't fear God, did he mean Astolfo? He did. Basically, Astolfo is too much of an airhead living just however the hell he wants for him to care about things like gods or anything else, really. Otherwise, if the second part is supposed to be all episodes being like this, count me in, immediatly. Apocrypha already won the MCbowl with Jeanne, Astolfo, Sieg, and Mordred as MC alone, and by very, very far. And a lot of focus on astolfo for the second part is just perfect. |
willardhwrightOct 10, 2017 12:46 PM
willardhwright said: [quote=willardhwright]dasprn said: Great episode as always. But the lack of backstory point for Aviceborn was really not cool. Even Hassan in Fate/Zero had a better backstory. And btw, when Chiron said - Hero who even doesn't fear God, did he mean Astolfo? He did. Basically, Astolfo is too much of an airhead living just however the hell he want for him to care about things like gods or anything else, really. Otherwise, if the second part is supposed to be all episodes being like this, count me in, immediatly. Apocrypha already won the MCbowl with Jeanne, Astolfo, Sieg, and Mordred as MC alone, and by very, very far. And a lot of focus on astolfo for the second part is just perfect. dasprn said: Great episode as always. But the lack of backstory point for Aviceborn was really not cool. Even Hassan in Fate/Zero had a better backstory. And btw, when Chiron said - Hero who even doesn't fear God, did he mean Astolfo? He did. Basically, Astolfo is too much of an airhead living just however the hell he want for him to care about things like gods or anything else, really. Otherwise, if the second part is supposed to be all episodes being like this, count me in, immediatly. Apocrypha already won the MCbowl with Jeanne, Astolfo, Sieg, and Mordred as MC alone, and by very, very far. And a lot of focus on astolfo for the second part is just perfect. willardhwright said: dasprn said: Great episode as always. But the lack of backstory point for Aviceborn was really not cool. Even Hassan in Fate/Zero had a better backstory. And btw, when Chiron said - Hero who even doesn't fear God, did he mean Astolfo? He did. Basically, Astolfo is too much of an airhead living just however the hell he want for him to care about things like gods or anything else, really. Otherwise, if the second part is supposed to be all episodes being like this, count me in, immediatly. Apocrypha already won the MCbowl with Jeanne, Astolfo, Sieg, and Mordred as MC alone, and by very, very far. And a lot of focus on astolfo for the second part is just perfect. Oh is that so? Thanks btw. But I really do hope if they focus on Karna a bit more coz he feels like the true overseer aka Ruler of this Grail war. |
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| One thing is certain, for such mediocre show it sure has an amazing soundtrack. |
| If that is Caster's vision of an 'Eden', then he needs to go to Specsavers immediately. The flowers that were blooming from his Noble Phantasm belong in a poisonous swap. =/ Either way, it was nice to see the servants team up once more to defeat a tough opponent, even though it felt too similar to the team-up against Vlad's Dracula form a few episodes back. The animation was mostly good, but that and the art felt less consistent than it has been before. Astolfo was a joy to watch once again, with his talk with Sieg, as well as his problems with Hippogriff's refusal to go near the golem, which was pretty funny. =) |
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Meta_Yoshi said: If that is Caster's vision of an 'Eden', then he needs to go to Specsavers immediately. The flowers that were blooming from his Noble Phantasm belong in a poisonous swap. =/ I know, that thing really bugged me. In the LN is described as far more "Eden-like": The first miracle occurred. The earth upon which the giant stood firmly upon began to sing, spreading tree and grass. The trees the giant touched bore fruit, which fell to the earth and became more trees in return. That was not all. The birds and beasts that had been repelled by the Yggdmillennia boundary field began to appear out of nowhere. Like moths to a flame, they approached the giant without hesitation, grasping onto it – and were broken apart without a single drop of blood. They were absorbed by the giant, becoming pure energy. They could wish for nothing more; after all, unintelligent beasts had always been helplessly attracted to him. Furthermore, the area around the giant became rejuvenated. The air was faintly filled with a sweet, honey-like smell, such that simply taking breath would fill one with utter bliss. “Yes… this is Eden.” I get that budget restrains are a thing for any studio that isn't ufotable or KyoAni, and that all of this couldn't be properly animated with all of these details, but come on! They could've at least made flowers and trees that didn't look like abominations spawned from the crater in "The Colour Out of Space" |
LeloTheUnamusedOct 10, 2017 2:03 PM
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| Best episode so far. The second cour is alot better than the first so far! |
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| at this point Ruler just actively searching for whatever excuse to fight "WOWOWOW BROTHER U BROKE THE RULE LET ME FIGHT YOU! even though that golem is legit caster's ultimate creation hougu, but WOW IT"S BIG LOOKS THREATENING NOT ALLOWED!!!! NEED TO KILL IT! I'M NEUTRAL BTW PLS BELIEVE ME good grief so many "servant goes berserk, let's truce and combine force!!!!!". how many times already is this? this anime makes that simple generic battle shonen harem porn game fate stay night looks good |
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| While Mordred makes everything better everytime she appears, Sieg easily makes everything worse everytime he appears... like why does he even exist? |
| Pretty badass fight with some badass teamwork this episode. That sure did not disappoint in that department. |
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GangsterCat said: at this point Ruler just actively searching for whatever excuse to fight "WOWOWOW BROTHER U BROKE THE RULE LET ME FIGHT YOU! even though that golem is legit caster's ultimate creation hougu, but WOW IT"S BIG LOOKS THREATENING NOT ALLOWED!!!! NEED TO KILL IT! I'M NEUTRAL BTW PLS BELIEVE ME good grief so many "servant goes berserk, let's truce and combine force!!!!!". how many times already is this? this anime makes that simple generic battle shonen harem porn game fate stay night looks good Every single time she messed with something, it's because things went out of control compared to how a "typical" holy grail war is supposed to go. Hell, Caster says himself that he doesn't give a damn about the grail and just wants to reset the world. Ruler's actions are perfectly legit. Liking or not everything else is ok and a matter of taste, but saying that she's not neutral "because she interferes despite the fact that it's a legit NP!!" doesn't sound like something something who actually understood the scenario would say. NP or not, just like Berserker, that thing didn't give a fuck about the war itself and caster even keep saying it over and over again. |
| Nice! some of the rival servants teamed-up to defeat the greater evil which is the Eden golem! lolz Ruler is so worried about Seig! 5/5. |
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| Didn't we just have this arc two episodes ago with Vlad and before than with Spartacus? Ruler keeps getting involved under the guise of "world threatening events" drafting in others for a big fight that ends within an episode, that formula is beginning to get a little stale. The Jeanne and Sieg stuff seems really awkward and completely out of place, especially considering how much they've built up the Sieg and Astolfo relationship. Astolfo and to a lesser extent Mordred continue to carry this anime and they do a good enough job at it to make me really enjoy coming back to it every week. 4/5 |
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| I get the feeling people took that neutral statement from Ruler too literally. The existence of a Ruler servant itself who is meant to be neutral is a contradiction to this. Because servants don't get summoned without a reason, and for Ruler to be summoned meant that clearly something was wrong and needed to be corrected by them. Hence why they are typically stronger than most servants and have several command seals. As for the frequency of world ending events, welp thats what happens when the Holy Grail gets corrupted and you have more than twice the number of usual servants including the masters who are also servants and/or previous masters in the past Holy Grail War all of whom possess wishes strong enough to get summoned by the Holy Grail.. |
| holy shit that was good did archer even use his noble phantasm |
ColdbidOct 10, 2017 8:31 PM
| Really wished Caster coulda got more backstory so the fight would have had more buildup and hype. Still really liked it tho. |
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| Okay, the second OP and ED are growing on me a little. The teamwork was neat. The fight was super flashy and pleasing to the eyes. But I can't help feeling dissatisfied with the direction this is going and the way the plot armor is working. This episode felt more like a flashy filler than something pertaining to the original story. Overall, any deaths in this Fate installment are too sudden to come to terms with or feel any kind of loss over. Compared to previous installments, it feels like this scenario is just too big and complicated for them to make it have the same impact when something happens. It feels like most things are rushed through. Remember when a Servant died on Fate/Zero or Unlimited Blade Works? They set aside entire moments for the majority of those losses. But with this one..? I guess it's a completely different feel. This decision sort of makes the Servants seem a lot less significant, thus their character development is a lot less meaningful. I can't remember a time that I've dropped a series after going this far into it, but I'm thinking my time may go elsewhere soon. |
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Chimerared said: Didn't we just have this arc two episodes ago with Vlad and before than with Spartacus? Ruler keeps getting involved under the guise of "world threatening events" drafting Just with Vlad, actually, and that was legit a big damn threat. People keep forgetting that Spartacus was just a bomb going wild into the battlefield until he exploded. Nobody teamed up against him, and Ruler didn't force any alliance to take him down. She literally only defended against his blast, using her NP instead of just running away because it would've annihilated the city otherwise. That's it. Also SacredFactor said: As for the frequency of world ending events, welp thats what happens when the Holy Grail gets corrupted and you have more than twice the number of usual servants including the masters who are also servants and/or previous masters in the past Holy Grail War all of whom possess wishes strong enough to get summoned by the Holy Grail. The Grail isn't corrupted in Apocrypha, be careful with that. The rest of what you said it's true tho. As a war with far less limitations that the original Fuyuki one and double the amount of Servants, these events are more possible. And actually, if for people it's ok that Caster in F/Z becomes a world threat, then Vlad and Avicebron are ok too: double the Servants, double the ones that can go on a world-threatening rampage that needs a team-up, and that's it. Coldbid said: did archer even use his noble phantasm He didn't. So that's still for future developments. I... won't even try to reply to some trolls in this thread. I'm fine with helping and clarifying for whoever wants to know more, but I've had enough of the same kind of buffoons that keep shitposting in every discussion thread. |
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LeloTheUnamused said: Just with Vlad, actually, and that was legit a big damn threat. People keep forgetting that Spartacus was just a bomb going wild into the battlefield until he exploded. Nobody teamed up against him, and Ruler didn't force any alliance to take him down. She literally only defended against his blast, using her NP instead of just running away because it would've annihilated the city otherwise. That's it. I should have clarified that I was only referring to drafting in other heroes in two out of the three occasions, that was my mistake for not being clear, ruler has interfered three times to destroy an opponent. The problem was not so much that these were such similar events but that both these two events involving Vlad and Avicebron happened only two episodes apart, Vlad was episode 12 and Avicebron was episode 14. |
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| Another great episode Why the anime getting lower score ? |
| That was okay, the story is shifting from one thing to another very fast, rather strange than anything. The animation suffered massively this time, not much to say about it ... At least they showed the moment why Mordred killed that sadistic master, thought that it was a good move/addition. |
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| It was a good episode. Only I hope for a romance between Ruler and Sieg? |
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| Something about Avicebron really hit me, really dislike what he did yet at least he accepted he should be hated for his deeds and had no regrets. Cool episode. |
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| I swear they keep using that same fucking orchestra music throughout the series. Its like on repeat! Servant kills a master - that same music Fighting a giant golem - that same music Talking while drinking tea - that same music Taking a piss - that same music I guess all their budget was blown with all of that bass boasted sound effects |
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| if red team attack with the golem it will be a sure win for them but guess what Shirou Kotomine is an idiot! letting caster fight alone to death wtf! |
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| Just going to give my two cents on this anime. Something just feels . . . off about it. The animation feels stale, the writing choppy, and the characters don't feel right. I expected more than just pretty flowers. Given that animation has to be simple, I expected better. I feel as if Apocrypha got an average budget. And I'm just coming in with not too high expectations. Maybe I'm being too harsh. But I'm still watching and giving it a chance because I'm simply too kind. But really that's just me |
MachaeraOct 12, 2017 9:56 AM
| now its going to be cliche and trashy. |
 Apomemes in a nutshell. Bye Caster, you're a character with a too good backstory for someone like Higa to write, maybe next time you will get a good writer for you. Also fuck you for using Roche. Muh Mordred still best girl. And now we begin the "Jeanne wants homunculi dick" phase. FUCK YOU TOO JANNU. |
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| Decent end for black's caster. He really overestimated his own golem tho |
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| Ruler seems pretty biased now.. I wonder if that'll have any impact later on. I felt bad for Caster's Master to just get sacrificed like that. |
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Swagernator said: This is bad with things like that (and as they will continue) people will be loving Mordred more and more, and that is a bad thing. Why? Does she a die a painful death? Because I honestly want her out already lmao. |
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Zelev said: Why? Does she a die a painful death? Because I honestly want her out already lmao. Because she's just another battle shounen character, and that's what people love. |
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Swagernator said: Zelev said: Why? Does she a die a painful death? Because I honestly want her out already lmao. Because she's just another battle shounen character, and that's what people love. Sadly, you are right. I think she's one of the few servants that has gotten the most screen time so far. I'm getting sick of the Saber class. It's such a plain servant class, I'm more interested in the Casters, Assassins... |
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| I would have prefried that besides so much action, there was also the opportunity during the narration to advance the story a bit, unfortunately it does not happen, yes! What a shame that drawings and animations have dropped in quality. The heroes, they are very much in hand, must be said, especially Astolfo. However he remains the most sympathetic character along with Ruler, and Red Saber. |
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Swagernator said: Zelev said: Why? Does she a die a painful death? Because I honestly want her out already lmao. Because she's just another battle shounen character, and that's what people love. She's very different from Arturia, and this alone make her great when you're tired of her AND hate her to begin with. Also, kind of interesting and more importantly, she' s funny. I don't care about the battle shounen part, I don't like it or hate it, neither , but even without this I still find it better than a lot of Saber. Maybe as good as Nero;, more or less. |
| good graphic .. cool characters no story .. very bad anime |
| Uh why does that stupid homunculus gets all the attention from my precious Jeanne T_T |
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| Mordred and her master sure are in a interesting position now but so is the war. Ruler really cares a great deal about Sieg so this turn of events would surely have irked her. So Caster decided to sacrifice his own master to become the core of his golem then. Castor's true wish though was surprising. Sieg and Rider really make a pretty good pair since their beliefs and motivations are so similar. Well its nice seeing this improper alliance arrayed against casters golem though. The primodial man eh well the golem certainly looks like it. Seeing Ruler summon Mordred though sure was unexpected. But the fight against Golem castor sure was interesting though. That was an impressive teamup there. Seems that ruler's feelings for Sieg go beyond friendship though. |
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| I really hated how they animated the 'Eden', it's quite contrasting with how it's described in the LN. Also, in Japanese, "roshi" means 'core', so the name "Roche" is actually a deathflag. I can now see why Sieg is called the worst Type-Moon MC... And so, the fated trainwreck now begin... |
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| One more is down and Mordred is really saving this whole show...ins't Jeanne damn attached to Sieg?! |
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| In regards of posts directly above me... I admit i hate Sieg at the beginning, but he seems to be doing better lately, well, i still hate him for not dodging a stupid nail on his foot XD. Anyway, Sieg seems slightly better this ep. I kinda feel for black master this time around. First time it happens... And Mordred sure knows how to ask a deal with Jeanne XD. Jeanne's moaning (well... Dunno how i should call it) as she battled quite wow... Plus her interaction with Mordred in that scene... Funny for sure. |
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