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| B E A U T I F U L ! i love love love love koi to uso so muchhhh!! it has an amazing story, amazing characters, amazing everything!!!! i'm very very sad that it came to an end sigh i'll miss the characters so much :(((( seriously what a beautiful anime! it's time to catch up on the manga! 9/10  |
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| tbh, 12 Episodes is not enough. so yeah what an open ending. It doesn't bother me at all, there's more awful endings out there. Oh well... I still feel bad for Ririna :( 7/10 |
EuphoriaSep 19, 2017 7:43 AM
Why do we have to live in such a cruel world?  |
| The anime has ended and I still don't have a favorite among the girls. Yukari is one boring MC. I wonder how the whole thing will be resolved but I don't really care as I don't care for either of the girls. Nisaka is my favorite but I know it won't happen. |
| Ahhhhhhhhhhh... Yes........ That Kiss |
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berrymillus said: I'm getting a lot of Nisekoi war flashbacks from this ending and the anime overall. It was enjoyable, Ririna stole my heart. 6/10 I know this feeling too well LMAO |
"Before I slit your throat, I'll give you a kiss," Nezumi said softly. "You'll find out exactly how much better I am at giving farewell kisses."  |
| Ririna basically won yay, no worries team Misaki, threesome incoming, its a harem end lol anime original end 7/10 |
| At least he is an honest harem protagonist who proclaims he loves them both... Well, the lack of conclusion made the anime even worse. It's like all this time they went nowhere and actually came to nowhere. |
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| Too bad... I really liked this series too, the ending just had to be so open ended and unrewarding to the viewer. Went from a 7/10 to a 6/10, that's generous. |
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Zelev said: Eh.. that's it? What am I supposed to do with this lol.. Yea come on wtf is with the open ending...god why u make me watch this |
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| *Sigh* Show started out well and finished with a terrible ending, like nothing has been resolved. Almost like they didn't want to upset either Team Misaki or Team Ririna. Feel like i wasted my time... |
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| There is still a loose thread they never dealt with, to re-set the scene from the beginning of the series, what if the government assigned marriage based on science is extremely successful, so much so that it is deemed fate. In Yukari's case he has found love, and for a brief time with the text message, the person he was assigned and the person he liked was the same. In that scene we saw how the system is legitimate, then when the message fades and a real notice is hand delivered we see something is off, perhaps the system is wrong, perhaps there is something sinister about the system, ultimately there is something more going on in this world they are slowly building for the viewer. Sadly, the most interesting part of the series to expand upon never happens, and the world building stops there. We don't find out who sent the text message, if it was legitimate or anything. With a little effort the story could have been amazing, perhaps the yukari system was a large scale modern selective breeding program, with the intent to build a social system of the likes of 'a brave new world', where people are born into their role into society with almost no free will - and are completely unaware of this fact. In this case, it is a taboo in society to go against the notices, which explains how people so willing go through the governments plans. Or perhaps, the Yukari system is a sophisticated genetics program to ultimately create the human 2.0. The message could then be the beginnings of a faction within the government who learn of these goals and take action, trying to bring down the system. We would get to explore, free will and the ethics of genetic based selection. I think the concept was strong but all we got was yet another harem show, with nothing happening overall. |
Tokoya said: This is probably the only time where I want a harem-ish type of end lol God I hate this damn system fucking up these people's lives Anyway, overall I loved this series and unfortunately I doubt we'll get a S2 anytime soon since we are really close to the manga now Me too. I liked Ririna more, but I'm fine with this ending lol |
| I enjoyed this but from a sort of comically amused standpoint. It feels like the creator is a bit clueless about love. The entire premise requires an awful lot of suspended disbelief in the first place because its insane. What really made me laugh though was just the sheer level of ambiguity the whole series like it was purposefully unclear what was going on the entire time to the point where you end with some sort of Mormon polygamy ending! Is that really what we're going with? Made me laugh when he frantically ran out of the house at the end like he had some sort of epiphany that he will just marry them both or something haha. How does that solve anything? |
| Wait, some people really did expect the MC to choose someone at the end? oO Lelouch51 said: Not much you can expect from a low self-confidence MC with no mentor to change his attitude. More like, none of the 3 main characters want to hurt the other two. At least, Nejima accepted the idea to hurt them at the end. |
| Okay, what chapter is this in the manga??? I need to know what happens! I just want them to have a polyamorous marriage so they can all be happy :( |
| 'I love you because you're you. I'm happy that you're whole. I don't care if there are sides of you that I don't know, or don't like. If that's who you are, that's fine. As long as you're whole, that's enough for me.'-Kouko Kaga |
Epir said: Sigh...hate bs endings like this, feels like I've wasted time give him a beer,noo,six pack of beer Throni said: What a waste of time. damm right. |
| Anime original ending lol. Either way, very mediocre series from the get-go. 5/10. |
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| I'm waiting for the polygamy ending |
| I was expecting an open ending since the manga is still ongoing. Honestly, that part really didn't bug me that much. At least Yukari managed to reach the point of self-awareness to recognize that both girls were actually important in his life. Given the sheer number of braindead idjit MCs who can't figure out that a girl loves him when she is throwing herself naked at him, even this much progress for Yukari deserves a thumbs up. What pissed me off is that there was no solid explanation for how/why/what Shuu did... How hard would it have been to say "I did this..." for pete's sake?! Was there a glitch in the system that she "corrected"? Did she force the system to give the answer she wanted? Did she simply run it a second time and a different result popped out? Heck, why is a gov't welfare system basically Top Secret with no information about how it actually works publicly available? That little mystery was the main reason I was enjoying this show, and they completely copped out on actually answering it or explaining much about the system itself at all during the entire series. 6/10 > 3/10 after this episode. >:( My crackpot theory: Yukari+Ririna get married, Nisaka+Misaki get married, they live happily ever after as a happy foursome. :3 |
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| The last few episodes have been so disappointing. There's no freaking resolution to anything. I'm sick of Yukari's thirsty, undecided ass, and I'm sick of Misaki's damn secret. Spineless characters, forced conflict... |
Albi-kunSep 19, 2017 8:33 PM
| I am actually ok with an OT3 |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| I saw more potential in the beginning but I still liked it. I loved Ririna, and it's also the one that has had the most development. At first I liked Misaki, but then I felt her character fell short, her interactions with Yukari were very dull. And even though I'm not a fan of open endings, I'm fine with this one, I like that with the whole thing of arranged marriages this has ended up with a kind of harem... Ririna and Misaki's friendship until the end lol. |
I haven't read it, but somebody earlier said the anime covered up to chapter 116. |
nx6Sep 20, 2017 12:21 AM
| I honestly liked it from the first seven weeks. Then it got pretty dull with all the come and go between Ririna and Misaki. Nejima didn't help because he's a wimp, and I can't take that from an anime MC character anyway. Disappointed with the end because a threesome ending is what I had realized from episode 10 onwards. I would've hoped a surprise, at least no threesome end. I know I am a salty Misaki / HanaKana fan that just wanted her to win, but that's how it is. The kisses were well made, big attracting point that kept me watching. They still didn't explain why Misaki was replaced with Ririna at the beginning of the show. Way too much of an open ending for me. I still had a good time watching it, if not for the final episodes. Masaru Yokoyama once again delivers another great soundtrack. 5/10 |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| typical Mc he wants both of them ...I am going to follow the manga if there is one.... |
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Thank you!! :) (character limittt) |
| 'I love you because you're you. I'm happy that you're whole. I don't care if there are sides of you that I don't know, or don't like. If that's who you are, that's fine. As long as you're whole, that's enough for me.'-Kouko Kaga |
zeroj said: I honestly liked it from the first seven weeks. Then it got pretty dull with all the come and go between Ririna and Misaki. Nejima didn't help because he's a wimp, and I can't take that from an anime MC character anyway. Disappointed with the end because a threesome ending is what I had realized from episode 10 onwards. I would've hoped a surprise, at least no threesome end. I know I am a salty Misaki / HanaKana fan that just wanted her to win, but that's how it is. 5/10 Felt the same way in the second half. MC can't decide, so he gets a harem ending? He's too lame to get a prize like that. I've decided this manga's story is written the way it is because the author isn't smart enough to explain it. They created a system of marriage that isn't really practical, but if they tried to make this story halfway serious, they'd be on the hook to explain things like how the government deals with homosexuals, why there isn't a higher incidence of spousal abuse from people stuck in bad matches, how the initial generation (people who actually have some understanding of romance) dealt with the new system, etc. Honestly I don't know how this system would work without the country functioning as a police state with actual brainwashing. That was even the vibe the show had at times. All these high-schoolers asking what love is... and not in the philosophical searching-their-feelings way, but -- thinking you're in love because of a shared eraser? That sounds like literal "you guys have such low emotional development I don't think you understand this feeling at a dictionary level". Muuuuuch easier to just go full-derp by only focusing on a shallow love triangle (and pretend that third "wife" doesn't exist in the story now that we've baited the fujoshis enough). |
nx6Sep 20, 2017 12:32 AM
| Heh what a cliche way of ending it. The kissing scene with Lilina was hot tho. And both girls looked pretty in their wedding gown. But I kek'ed hard to see just how nonchalantly they were talking about love and lies in front of those women who were helping them change lmao. |
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| the end make me angry :/ !! I like ririna more then misaki and the anime does'nt give us about Nisaka and other detail :/ ! Overall 5/10 |
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| Nejima, you lucky bastard. I'm pretty sure if the government allowed the arrangement, he could marry both of them, and they'd still be pretty happy together. Pretty girls and lovely ED theme is what I will remember this series for. |
nx6 said: zeroj said: I honestly liked it from the first seven weeks. Then it got pretty dull with all the come and go between Ririna and Misaki. Nejima didn't help because he's a wimp, and I can't take that from an anime MC character anyway. Disappointed with the end because a threesome ending is what I had realized from episode 10 onwards. I would've hoped a surprise, at least no threesome end. I know I am a salty Misaki / HanaKana fan that just wanted her to win, but that's how it is. 5/10 Felt the same way in the second half. MC can't decide, so he gets a harem ending? He's too lame to get a prize like that. I've decided this manga's story is written the way it is because the author isn't smart enough to explain it. They created a system of marriage that isn't really practical, but if they tried to make this story halfway serious, they'd be on the hook to explain things like how the government deals with homosexuals, why there isn't a higher incidence of spousal abuse from people stuck in bad matches, how the initial generation (people who actually have some understanding of romance) dealt with the new system, etc. Honestly I don't know how this system would work without the country functioning as a police state with actual brainwashing. That was even the vibe the show had at times. All these high-schoolers asking what love is... and not in the philosophical searching-their-feelings way, but -- thinking you're in love because of a shared eraser? That sounds like literal "you guys have such low emotional development I don't think you understand this feeling at a dictionary level". Muuuuuch easier to just go full-derp by only focusing on a shallow love triangle (and pretend that third "wife" doesn't exist in the story now that we've baited the fujoshis enough). Totally this. The basic setup had so much potential and we are still hanging with MCs inability to choose. As I said the episode before, the story does not have to end when he chooses. People make bad choices, so whatever choice he makes he can regret it. And what about Nisakas story? To much potential wasted, could have been much much better. |
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