Rotton-Girl said: Oh my god yes. Hey I have a great idea! Let me write a story about depression and suicide and time travel.... and then make all of the drama about fucking pointless shit like a baton race and holding hands! That'll be good!Most forced romance? Orange. Also a pretty disappointing anime. |
 |
| Angel Beats certainly. It was so rushed, random and fake. |
| Zen and Shirayuki from Snow White with the Red Hair was pretty corny. They just kind of met... and they were ready to sacrifice their own lives to be together ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Akito and Shigure from the Fruits Basket manga. That came from nowhere and I'm still not over it. |
   |
KuroudoAkabane said: After reading your reply, re:zero suddenly becomes not force anymore. surprise. wow. what a magic.Cactii said: fsn was pretty bad too....Should we bring Re:Zero back into discussion? Rem is shit Emilia is even more shit. Subaru is a fktard. His obsession is force AF. Whale-chan is the only character with proper development. Felix-chan should have been the MC. |
| As much as I love Steins;Gate, the romance between Okabe and Kurisu felt like it came straight outta left field. First time watching, I didn't even know they were romantically interested in each other until they kissed. |
 This glorious signature image was created by @Mayumi! I am the Arbiter of Absolute Truth, and here is my wisdom: "Anime was always influenced by the West. This is not news. Shoujo is the superior genre primarily aimed at young people. Harem/isekai are lazy genres that refuse any meaningful innovation. There is no 'Golden Age.' There will always be top-shelf anime. You should be watching Carole & Tuesday." |
| I have to put in another card in the hat for Angel's Beat Otanashi and Angel. The whole heart transplant thing is romantic and all, but what does it really mean, when the character interactions are rare, and the development simply does not exist as a result? It felt like an attempt on the red thread of fate trope, where people are destined to fall in love, with many a coincidence happening as if the heavens themselves wish it so, but.. The post-mortem heart transplant means nothing, and should not by itself. |
 |
animeiscool561 said: Considering all the SAO comments I doubt half these hater circlejerk people even know what the word "rushed" even means. They've known each other for two years. They conversed whenever they got the chance, over about 6-7 episodes, and even connected emotionally. Two and a half hours of buildup on-screen may be short when compared to other romance anime, but it's still better than most that use the "love at first site" cliche or take FOREVER for any romance to start. Especially considering when they eventually return IRL they decide to take things slower. The on screen development is most likely what they are referring to. Fast fowarding through what should be exciting, action packed stories and arcs, alongside the development that entails, is wasted potential to me. Even then, it seems they tried to seal the deal in so few moments that seem like it should have happened over those years, such as the declaration of love after Kuradeel is killed, and perhaps others, but my memory is not so great. I would say that is what the first arc of SAO is to me. Wasted potential, because the author or anime did not want to bother covering extremely important ground that most would have loved to see in the first place. |
| |
animeiscool561 said: In most cases I definitely can agree about wasted potential but that romance aspect specifically felt like it logically went across the episodes and made sense why these two liked each other through the types of emotional hangups a setting like that offers. At the same time not being direct marriage because IRL they tried to take things slower. Kado and Charlotte had it worse. I do think SAO Progressive is better at developing their relationship tho since it continues immediately after episode 2's ending and they spend more time together in addition to the plot, action, mechanic introduction and worldbuilding going from floor to floor of Aincrad. In other words having romance but also using the potential As a whole SAO's first arc was rushed, and I think Progressive is a great idea. That being said, I never felt anything, and the romantic aspect felt saccharine when they adopted Yui and "started" a family, which felt like overly unrealistic wish fulfillment. Young teenage parents who are two best players in the world, a perfect, never aging daughter? To me, there was nothing to rush or force, as their relationship felt hollow at that point. I...should have known how SAO would have turned out earlier, I thought the Sachi episode was excellent, but now I realized that, it was all in one episode covering a traumatic moment. Especially when one witnesses a suicide in front of them. That would fuck anyone up in Kirito's position. On topic: As for more forced... I guess Masamune and Aki from Masamune's Revenge? Yeah no, the most forced pairing is Sakura x Sasuke, and it makes sense, sequel wise, to have yet another Uchiha. Good grief. |
| |
Cactii said: KuroudoAkabane said: After reading your reply, re:zero suddenly becomes not force anymore. surprise. wow. what a magic.fsn was pretty bad too....  well the pic says it all though............. |
animeiscool561 said: PeripheralVision said: As a whole SAO's first arc was rushed, and I think Progressive is a great idea. That being said, I never felt anything, and the romantic aspect felt saccharine when they adopted Yui and "started" a family, which felt like overly unrealistic wish fulfillment. Young teenage parents who are two best players in the world, a perfect, never aging daughter? To me, there was nothing to rush or force, as their relationship felt hollow at that point. I...should have known how SAO would have turned out earlier, I thought the Sachi episode was excellent, but now I realized that, it was all in one episode covering a traumatic moment. Especially when one witnesses a suicide in front of them. That would fuck anyone up in Kirito's position. On topic: As for more forced... I guess Masamune and Aki from Masamune's Revenge? Yeah no, the most forced pairing is Sakura x Sasuke, and it makes sense, sequel wise, to have yet another Uchiha. Good grief. Wish Fullfillment is kind of a petty excuse. That's the entire point of fiction, could be applied when anything good happens to anyone in anything! Also keep in mind that them taking a leave of abscence was right after someone from Asuna's Guild nearly KILLED both of them. And there were other moments like against the Gleam Eyes boss that Kirito was THIS close to killing himself trying. In many ways I liked all those little moments when they collaborated, where Asuna appreciated Kirito's outlook on life, when Kirito opened up about the whole Sachi thing and even when that's basically implied to be haunting him when he's scared for Asuna dying in the same way. Plus the piggyback around the lake scene was adorable. Also, the Yui thing is a major misconception, they weren't trying to raise a family at first, they thought Yui was a lost child who had parents, hence they went to the orphanage later. Also remember that Yui had amnesia. Probably not the best idea to tell a child that's not entirely herself that she's completely alone in a death game. See SAO Progressive here: https://myanimelist.net/manga/43921/Sword_Art_Online__Progressive 4 of these are out right now, prefer them to the original for the added depth to the design, no timeskips and relationship building. Dropped Masamune-kun and haven't seen Naruto. Heard bad thing about both romances. It depends on the medium, Video Games often run better with this, but it seems incredibly corny and unrealistic to watch the notion of someone else's fantasy. And no, wish fulfillment is not necessarily the main purpose of entertainment or fiction in general, which is more escapism. Wish fullfillment is taken to direct the story in ways that feel more like the bad plot of a nukige than an honest story in itself. I am arguing not against the introduction of fictional elements, but debasing those that eschew the appearance of real, well written difficultly for ridiculous fanservice that writing can be. Also, the plot moved quite quickly in that episode when they originally found Yui with little shift, and they "adopted" here after that, which they pledge they will bring her in the real world one day, which is....suffice for a lack of better words, incredibly cringe producing. Oh, we are already on the family side of things, yet we are just at the age of 16 and such, and have to catch up on years of missed schooling. A teenage couple with the notion of wanting to raise a child at that age with such dreamy eyed idealism and have it work without any noted difficulty? Forgive me, but that sounds incredibly saccharine, and an unhealthy expectation that should give rise to difficult issues much more often. Even then, it is written that way because the authors wants to portray the ideal family that readers want. Keep in mind the writers of stories are God, and can bend any rule of physics and human relations (and humans in general) to write any fantasy or story they desire. They can make something that is not ideal in real life ideal in fiction, which is where wish fulfillment is said to arise for and from. They are not the most forced couple, but I find how ideal they are to be rather shallow with what we are given, and that vow to raise Yui in real life so they can have a family seems rooted in teenage idealism of romantics than what a relationship usually is. Perhaps ultimately, depending on the show, I mostly love my drama to be populated by those who are in some ways, human in rationale and thinking. In any case, Sachi's episode should have incredible mental repercussions past episode 12 with Kayaba. I do not know about you, but the more I think about one feeling responsible for an entire guild's death, than having the leader commit suicide in front of one over said deaths, Kirito should have been much more fucked up. I am talking years on years. This is not something I expect any normal, compassionate human to get over with in a few months, or years with extensive therapy. Witnessing suicide is completely horrible, especially given the context, which would have exacerbated Kirito's trauma immensely. Although yeah, the below mentioned are my picks by a mile. I....honestly was not expecting that pairing in Naruto. |
| |
| Choji x Karui: How? A lot of people said Sasuke x Sakura is most forced pairing in Naruto. But seriously, How is Choji x Karui even a thing? When have they even interact with each other? |
YuriCarrier said: Choji x Karui: How? A lot of people said Sasuke x Sakura is most forced pairing in Naruto. But seriously, How is Choji x Karui even a thing? When have they even interact with each other? Indeed, but in another way, the lack of interaction contributes to a lack of "force", since there was nothing to force in the first place. Sasuke and Sakura had a history that should, by all intents and purposes, put Sasuke off from marrying anyone in Konohagakure, especially Sakura. Sasuke never shown interest in Sakura romantically or her well being, and god damn it, tried to murder her at several points. That sounds like a relationship breaker. I do not care if you (Sasuke) come to save the world in the end, you (Sasuke) still did so much crap. |
| |
| For me, it would be Tsumugu and Chisaki from Nagi no Asukara. Oh how I hate Tsumugu, a mere human forcing Chisaki to admit that she likes him. Still hate that guy even thought it's been years haha. |
“You might be able to do it if you try. But if you don’t try, you definitely can’t” |
Yea, I thought that they were a better couple as well |
|
| Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Srlsly. OUT OF FKN NOWHERE they came together and god a brat. |
 |
| SAO is pretty up there with the edgelord kirito |
   |
Red_Keys said: Rotton-Girl said: Oh my god yes. Hey I have a great idea! Let me write a story about depression and suicide and time travel.... and then make all of the drama about fucking pointless shit like a baton race and holding hands! That'll be good!Most forced romance? Orange. Also a pretty disappointing anime. You know what would have been great? if she still ended up with the original guy and it was a great heartwarming anime about friendship and showing you care.... but whatever... can't have that. |
The anime community in a nutshell.  |
| It must be Nisekoi,without a doubt. |
 Life is empty without anime |
YuriCarrier said: When they are put under the same division in the war and that's how they interact. There is like grand total one or two line spoken. Still I ain't complaining since Cho Cho is the result.Choji x Karui: How? A lot of people said Sasuke x Sakura is most forced pairing in Naruto. But seriously, How is Choji x Karui even a thing? When have they even interact with each other? |
 Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| First what comes to mind - Akame ga kill. Tatsumi x Mine Btw putting Kirito and Asuna as profile pic for such theme - sacrilege! |
Zefyris said: Ahhaa dude. Props to you. While everyone is discussing some serious shit with highbrow faces lollololCecillia Alcott from IS : Infinite Stratos. BEAT THAT. You can't, right. Except going with hentai examples maybe. |
More topics from this board
» Anime that low-testosterone males can't comprehendEjrodiew - Apr 14 |
49 |
by LostSpectre
»»
42 seconds ago |
|
» Anime show good at portraying female drama/toxicity?passtur - Yesterday |
35 |
by Zarutaku
»»
2 minutes ago |
|
» thoughts on Chinese anime? ( 1 2 3 4 )ryo-san - Mar 6, 2022 |
175 |
by alshu
»»
12 minutes ago |
|
» angry sub only usersYorda_trico - 5 hours ago |
40 |
by Spunkert
»»
15 minutes ago |
|
Sticky: » The 'Help Identifying This Anime/Character' Thread (v10) ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Koito91 - Dec 21, 2020 |
7153 |
by g6qwerty
»»
17 minutes ago |