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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Hand-made Christmas presents from Sawako! I'd sure like one. *sad face* Sawako's dad during Christmas = senile old man. Sawako's facial expressions in this episode are priceless. |
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This was a amazing episode! :D I loved it all from Sawako expressions here=> |
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| AMGAMGAMG, awesome episode! Great Christmas. And she has cell phone nao :3 |
| For some reason I don't see how they can end it anytime soon. With only two episodes left it feels like it's only now getting into the stuff everyone wanted to see. I guess if they come out with a second season though, it'd make sense. Regardless I'm still enjoying it. |
| Why, why, why, just WHY my heart grows in my chest every time I watch this show? T_T It's such a nice feeling <3 And the thing with stomach belt was so funny xD But I still wish she gave him this cap <3 Handmade presents by Sawako are love <3 Hell, I want them to confess, but it's gonna take a while, for sure :P |
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| I hate Sawako's dad, and Sawako's stupidity in this episode!! |
| I'm not saying that I didn't like this episode, but the angst is starting to get a little annoying. Christmas episode = perfect time for garland and a Kiss. Sawako is still acting like she doesn't know Kazehaya likes her. Seriously when is someone going to pull her aside and tell about life. The naivety is getting old. This would have been a very cute ten episodes ago, but now it's just a bit after the fact. There relationship is at a stand still and there are only two more episodes left. Are they going to make us wait for another series to see if they ever hook up? I'd love to see that other side of sawako more often, the side that isn't so naive, the one that is brutally honest. When is she going to get brutally honest with herself and her feelings towards Kazehaya? |
Orion1 said: I am thinking from how her mom handled the call from Kazehaya she might be the one or it will Yano/Yoshida who help her out in that. I'm not saying that I didn't like this episode, but the angst is starting to get a little annoying. Christmas episode = perfect time for garland and a Kiss. Sawako is still acting like she doesn't know Kazehaya likes her. Seriously when is someone going to pull her aside and tell about life. mel-hime said: Nooooo!!!!! ; ; 2 more episodes! Season 2 is a must! Yeah I feel bad also that there are only 2 more episodes left in this series. tovabrink said: I have to admit 90% of this show was for me like that also......well I can always pick up Clannad/Kanon 2006 hopefully when this is over.Why, why, why, just WHY my heart grows in my chest every time I watch this show? T_T It's such a nice feeling <3 |
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| Aww ... sad she could not make it to the party >< |
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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! (your vote) laserjay151 said: Hand-made Christmas presents from Sawako! I'd sure like one. *sad face* Sawako's dad during Christmas = senile old man. Sawako's facial expressions in this episode are priceless. ^w^ |
| This ep was beautiful, yet painful to watch. Most of the animation and character details are well done. Yet it was painful, not only because of Sawako's awkward lack of communication, But also because I connected with Sawako's feelings when everyone called her.. Since I had a good share of that experience too. Btw, I was surprised when they put actual faces on Sawa's parents. |
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| Touching episode! <3 It was so well done, it captured all the emotions from the manga. I really hope that a second season will come after this, because they cannot just leave it at the best part ToT |
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| I'm glad Sawako got to give something to Kazehaya at least, even though the hat would have looked totally adorable on him... |
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Zilpzalp said: Yeah same here and not only him....Ume, Yoshida and Yano too of all people. Yeah what is wrong with that? It's strange it would be like that.STOP LEAVING OUT THE RIGHT EYE OF KAZE-KUN. ITS GROSS, SERIOUSLY. |
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| I'm gonna kill someone if there won't be a second season. |
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| With only 2 episodes left I really hope they'll make another season. These anime is a masterpiece in every way. edit: HontoniBaka said: I'm gonna kill someone if there won't be a second season. HIVEMIND! |
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rarri said: HontoniBaka said: I'm gonna kill someone if there won't be a second season. HIVEMIND! How about just disappointed....don' t think I will go to Japan to do it but I think there will be another season when more manga chapters will come out? |
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| Kuronuma Papa was so sweet (even though a little bit annoying at first...), especially when he gave her the gift. Zilpzalp said: STOP LEAVING OUT THE RIGHT EYE OF KAZE-KUN. ITS GROSS, SERIOUSLY. ^ yeah -.- They really should. I suffer from Ryuu withdrawal. Not enough of him in this episode D: I want another arc about him. |
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| Wonderful episode, with a great atmosphere setting resulting from a fantastic direction. Still one of the best out there. |
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HontoniBaka said: I'm gonna kill someone if there won't be a second season. |
| Ehh, first episode I didn't feel entirely satistfied with. Maybe because i'm horizontal? |
| Ahhhhh her dad is sweet but I totally got so annoyed by him!!! ARGH =.= Andddd GET TOGETHER ALREADY!!!! |
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| This episode reminded me of how much I hate Kazehaya. I had almost forgotten about him the last few episodes. I would rather keep seeing Ryuu and Chizuru thing going. 2/5 |
| I loved how the mom took charge of the phone call :) Annoying father for sure. 99.99% sure there's going to be a second season. |
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francismeunier said: Zilpzalp said: Yeah same here and not only him....Ume, Yoshida and Yano too of all people. Yeah what is wrong with that? It's strange it would be like that.STOP LEAVING OUT THE RIGHT EYE OF KAZE-KUN. ITS GROSS, SERIOUSLY. It's like one of their eyes gets burned out. |
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| Her father was annoying the heck outta me, especially how he just barged into her room and grabbed the hat without even letting her give it to him! He redeemed himself a little bit with the cell phone scene. Chibi-Ryuu with the tapping of the papers was awesome. ^^ |
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mel-hime said: Nooooo!!!!! ; ; 2 more episodes! Season 2 is a must! x3mslayer said: i comepletly agree with you two. season two of sawako x kazehaya relationsip and ryuu x chizu relationship. it would have been better if kazehaya got the right present.I hate Sawako's dad, and Sawako's stupidity in this episode!! |
| nice episode the animation was awesome :) |
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| Well I found it weird to see Sawako end up in a bit of a typical teenage situation. It was kind of fresh just to see her have a family vs. friends situation. I liked the ending of the episode, it is nice to see these two together, and the silly mistake was nice. Kurumi is back next time guys :) |
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Orion1 said: I'm not saying that I didn't like this episode, but the angst is starting to get a little annoying. Christmas episode = perfect time for garland and a Kiss. Sawako is still acting like she doesn't know Kazehaya likes her. Seriously when is someone going to pull her aside and tell about life. The naivety is getting old. This would have been a very cute ten episodes ago, but now it's just a bit after the fact. There relationship is at a stand still and there are only two more episodes left. Are they going to make us wait for another series to see if they ever hook up? I'd love to see that other side of sawako more often, the side that isn't so naive, the one that is brutally honest. When is she going to get brutally honest with herself and her feelings towards Kazehaya? Totally agree. There is no reason for the show to be so underwhelming at this point. Like I said, when episodes are like this, my mind only drifts to the flaws--eyeless Kazehaya and empty frames abundant. Unfortunately, adding to the fact that there are only two episodes left, I'm dropping my score to a 7. The show has lost most of it's spark (read: Kurumi and Yano) since the sports festival. |
Orion1 said: it would be a nice turn of events, but if this is like the typical story, it will take at least a year for both people to confess and start dating, another six more months for a first kiss, and then may be a second kiss after a few months, but never on holiday because something always gets in the way... makes me glad i'm not an (animated) japanese schoolgirl... the angst would have killed me long before graduation.I'm not saying that I didn't like this episode, but the angst is starting to get a little annoying. Christmas episode = perfect time for garland and a Kiss. Sawako is still acting like she doesn't know Kazehaya likes her. Seriously when is someone going to pull her aside and tell about life. The naivety is getting old. This would have been a very cute ten episodes ago, but now it's just a bit after the fact. There relationship is at a stand still and there are only two more episodes left. Are they going to make us wait for another series to see if they ever hook up? I'd love to see that other side of sawako more often, the side that isn't so naive, the one that is brutally honest. When is she going to get brutally honest with herself and her feelings towards Kazehaya? tovabrink said: what is a stomach belt??? i would look it up, but i'm hoping such a thing does not actually exist...And the thing with stomach belt was so funny xD |
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| Ahhh her dad! Cute cellphone though <3 |
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francismeunier said: rarri said: HontoniBaka said: I'm gonna kill someone if there won't be a second season. HIVEMIND! How about just disappointed....don' t think I will go to Japan to do it but I think there will be another season when more manga chapters will come out? I didn't say I'd go to Japan! x'D I just said I'm gonna kill someone, didn't specify who. Anyone would do. *evil laugh* However, travelling to Japan and abducting the child of the people who make this show seems like a fine plan too... Who's with me? x'D |
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noteDhero said: Definitely this. I totally overhyped it in my own mind since the beginning was so beautiful, but it's getting rather annoying now. It feels as if Sadako has not moved any place closer to Kazehaya in appearances of a relationship since like the first episode. I mean friends are all good, and fleshing them out is great, but I kind of want romance...Totally agree. There is no reason for the show to be so underwhelming at this point. Like I said, when episodes are like this, my mind only drifts to the flaws--eyeless Kazehaya and empty frames abundant. Unfortunately, adding to the fact that there are only two episodes left, I'm dropping my score to a 7. The show has lost most of it's spark (read: Kurumi and Yano) since the sports festival. |
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gerb234 said: I on the other hand like Sawako's stupidity but I am sorry but I think more of it as clumsy and dazed...mel-hime said: Nooooo!!!!! ; ; 2 more episodes! Season 2 is a must! x3mslayer said: i comepletly agree with you two. season two of sawako x kazehaya relationsip and ryuu x chizu relationship. it would have been better if kazehaya got the right present.I hate Sawako's dad, and Sawako's stupidity in this episode!! |
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Orion1 said: I don't think the angst is particularly unreasonable. I mean think about it, she's gone pretty much her whole life without friends; it's not like she's suddenly going to be perfectly receptive to romantic feelings. Take this from someone who's lived a pretty similar life. I've never once had someone like me in my 18 years (at least, not openly), and, even though it may not be true, I'm pretty damn convinced that nobody could like me.I'm not saying that I didn't like this episode, but the angst is starting to get a little annoying. Christmas episode = perfect time for garland and a Kiss. Sawako is still acting like she doesn't know Kazehaya likes her. Seriously when is someone going to pull her aside and tell about life. The naivety is getting old. This would have been a very cute ten episodes ago, but now it's just a bit after the fact. There relationship is at a stand still and there are only two more episodes left. Are they going to make us wait for another series to see if they ever hook up? I'd love to see that other side of sawako more often, the side that isn't so naive, the one that is brutally honest. When is she going to get brutally honest with herself and her feelings towards Kazehaya? That's one of the reasons I like this show so much: it's real, and I can relate to it in so many ways. Obviously some of it is a bit exaggerated, but, for the most part, it's a very plausible story. |
| Of course it was going to be a cell phone strap. And what the heck is Kazehaya going to with that thing? Poor dad's been spoiled with such a good daughter. He did good with the gift though. And she just wanted a pencil and lead. LOL. |
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| After this i really really want Yano's special arc..she is the goddess in this anime and Kurumi too <3 Oh and after Christmas comes New Year's eve right? maybe something will happened between those two..maybe not XD |
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RETVirus said: We're on the same boat, buddy.I don't think the angst is particularly unreasonable. I mean think about it, she's gone pretty much her whole life without friends; it's not like she's suddenly going to be perfectly receptive to romantic feelings. Take this from someone who's lived a pretty similar life. I've never once had someone like me in my 18 years (at least, not openly), and, even though it may not be true, I'm pretty damn convinced that nobody could like me. That's one of the reasons I like this show so much: it's real, and I can relate to it in so many ways. Obviously some of it is a bit exaggerated, but, for the most part, it's a very plausible story. One of the main reasons why I like KnT, despite its flashy, over the top, emotional sequences is that I can relate to it too. Not only can I relate to it, but I can also get inspired by it. Sawako's one-good-deed a day thing and optimism way back in the first batch of episodes imo, was motivating. Btw. Sure, it's easy to blame Sawako's dad for making her pity him.. But he did predict that Sawako would eventually move on with her friends by the cell phone gift. I think he's not that bad, I just wished Sawako was a little more honest. |
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Orion1 said: Well the beauty of this series I think is that it's not like any typical shoujo that you always watch/read, where the relationship is like bam bam bam. Believe it or not, Sawako's scenario happens more likely that you think. I definitely don't think the relationship is a stand still at all. These things grow very slowly in real life too you know. For example in this episode, you see something happen with them at the end - exchange e-mail address/phone numbers. I'm not saying that I didn't like this episode, but the angst is starting to get a little annoying. Christmas episode = perfect time for garland and a Kiss. Sawako is still acting like she doesn't know Kazehaya likes her. Seriously when is someone going to pull her aside and tell about life. The naivety is getting old. This would have been a very cute ten episodes ago, but now it's just a bit after the fact. There relationship is at a stand still and there are only two more episodes left. Are they going to make us wait for another series to see if they ever hook up? I'd love to see that other side of sawako more often, the side that isn't so naive, the one that is brutally honest. When is she going to get brutally honest with herself and her feelings towards Kazehaya? Before you get too ahead of yourself and start bashing Sawako, and I apologize for a such a spoiler (but I doubt this will be covered in the anime figuring that there are 2 episodes left)...but Kazehaya is just as naive as Sawako. He has no idea that she likes him too. So just to warn you, if you're looking towards having their relationship not be in a "stand still" and do what other series do like confess to each other and kiss....then I suggest you don't watch the last two episodes - because I guarantee that that will not happen :P |
| It was really amazing episode. Sawako got her first cellphone and exchanged numbers with Kazehaya. Step by step getting closer... HontoniBaka said: I didn't say I'd go to Japan! x'D I just said I'm gonna kill someone, didn't specify who. Anyone would do. *evil laugh* However, travelling to Japan and abducting the child of the people who make this show seems like a fine plan too... Who's with me? x'D Well if there will be anouncement that there will not be 2nd season i will take it to consideration... well but i dont think there is this kind of possibility now ^_^ |
amadiloMar 11, 2010 7:02 AM
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I finally managed to make a master GIF of Sawako's smile...there was no better time than this episode and it is perfect to my eyes=> also this was a nice one too=> |
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| I think it is going to be 25 episodes, instead of 24, or at least that is what's on ANN: 2010-03-16 23. Two People Futari ふたり 2010-03-23 24. Birthday Tanjoubi 誕生日 2010-03-30 25. New Year Shinnen 新年 Still, I want more >_< |
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robbydesu said: Well the beauty of this series I think is that it's not like any typical shoujo that you always watch/read, where the relationship is like bam bam bam. Believe it or not, Sawako's scenario happens more likely that you think. I definitely don't think the relationship is a stand still at all. These things grow very slowly in real life too you know. For example in this episode, you see something happen with them at the end - exchange e-mail address/phone numbers. Before you get too ahead of yourself and start bashing Sawako, and I apologize for a such a spoiler (but I doubt this will be covered in the anime figuring that there are 2 episodes left)...but Kazehaya is just as naive as Sawako. He has no idea that she likes him too. So just to warn you, if you're looking towards having their relationship not be in a "stand still" and do what other series do like confess to each other and kiss....then I suggest you don't watch the last two episodes - because I guarantee that that will not happen :P And this is where we get into the question of "when is too realistic simply boring?" I think we've hit the line here. I've noted in many episodes where I felt like the story was dragging. As of now, I think about 7 episodes could have been saved just to clip out a lot of the wide shots of the environment, Sawako dumbly smiling, bubble effects, and most of the first episodes that centered around gimmicky jokes about her look. Every single arc drags longer than it should. Hell, some of them would make great one off episodes, but they feel the need to separate them into three because Sawako needs stupid monologues and Kazehaya needs to say contradictory things for no reason. There really isn't a reason why there can't be bigger jumps in time and mess with the sequence of events a little bit if it means tightening the pace. It's been almost a year since the beginning of the show, and despite having friends for the first time in her life (and even a crush), I don't think Sawako is any different. That's absurd for high school. I don't know about anyone else, but from one year to the next I grew a lot as a person, precisely because I got friends that I trusted. I see this change in Chizu and Ayane...even Kurumi. I don't see it with Sawako or Kazehaya. But then, Kazehaya is supposed to be the Perfect Boy (despite his glaring flaws of being dense and selfish), so I don't expect much more from him. |
noteDhero said: robbydesu said: Well the beauty of this series I think is that it's not like any typical shoujo that you always watch/read, where the relationship is like bam bam bam. Believe it or not, Sawako's scenario happens more likely that you think. I definitely don't think the relationship is a stand still at all. These things grow very slowly in real life too you know. For example in this episode, you see something happen with them at the end - exchange e-mail address/phone numbers. Before you get too ahead of yourself and start bashing Sawako, and I apologize for a such a spoiler (but I doubt this will be covered in the anime figuring that there are 2 episodes left)...but Kazehaya is just as naive as Sawako. He has no idea that she likes him too. So just to warn you, if you're looking towards having their relationship not be in a "stand still" and do what other series do like confess to each other and kiss....then I suggest you don't watch the last two episodes - because I guarantee that that will not happen :P And this is where we get into the question of "when is too realistic simply boring?" I think we've hit the line here. I've noted in many episodes where I felt like the story was dragging. As of now, I think about 7 episodes could have been saved just to clip out a lot of the wide shots of the environment, Sawako dumbly smiling, bubble effects, and most of the first episodes that centered around gimmicky jokes about her look. Every single arc drags longer than it should. Hell, some of them would make great one off episodes, but they feel the need to separate them into three because Sawako needs stupid monologues and Kazehaya needs to say contradictory things for no reason. Ok now I am in the conversation! The first thing to say is that the focus is on Romance and so environment shots were there to put a feel around the characters but it can be overdone and that I agree. Problem is there some things I thin they are saving for a second season......I mean I would like to know more about Kazehaya's family and that of Chizuru....Ume also was not developed fully but I don't like her. noteDhero said: The little changes in her a present but Sawako is portrayed as someone who has complex over exaggerated on the shy side but that's what I like about her because many of the girl IRL are not shy at all and more open minded.... There really isn't a reason why there can't be bigger jumps in time and mess with the sequence of events a little bit if it means tightening the pace. It's been almost a year since the beginning of the show, and despite having friends for the first time in her life (and even a crush), I don't think Sawako is any different. That's absurd for high school. noteDhero said: You don't see it because it's very little and they want to extend that over a longer period like 48 episodes but in the end you shall see the change.....my guts tell me so :PI don't know about anyone else, but from one year to the next I grew a lot as a person, precisely because I got friends that I trusted. I see this change in Chizu and Ayane...even Kurumi. I don't see it with Sawako or Kazehaya. But then, Kazehaya is supposed to be the Perfect Boy (despite his glaring flaws of being dense and selfish), so I don't expect much more from him. |
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