Gamers! Episode 9 Discussion

danilitoleon said:



We won't ever get rid of the misunderstandings, we'll get more complicated ones ;_;

MetaThPr4h said:

In the next episode of Gamers, Karen thinks that Amano is cheating on her with a pencil, and Aguri thinking that Uehara wants to murder her since there was ketchup spilled over a picture of her!

Autunna said:


I like SEAWEED too! \o/

closeureyes said:

RandomCritic said:


@MonoJuMal
Two points: 1) I am a devil's advocate. And i am tired of people belittle a show just because they show views they dont understand and puts down the series because of it.
2) I do not know where you and that person came with the idea of me insulting him or her. I do not recall calling names or insulting words. I only recall throwing facts and speaking in a strong tone.
If that person felt ofended is another 5 cents. But i personally see not insulting them.
Unless my definition of insulting someone is different from yours.
Forgive me, i am not american nor english speaker.

RandomCritic said:

@kaitonic
Story is about misunderstandings, not about games. What did you expect?
Did you really think the story was about games?

AnimeCruiser said:


Well I think the title Gamers! fit this anime and manga.
Since all their relations origin was from games.

1. Chiaki and Keita meet from online game forums as Nobu and Yama and through mobile [b]online games[b] as Tsucchie and Mono even though it was not directly, until later.
2. Keita and Karen meet, while Keita was choosing games in the store and start talking due to the topic of games being common for both.
3. Uehara and Keita become friends due to seeing how Keita is hardcore gamer which reminds him of his old self.
4. Uehara and Aguri meet because of arcade games.
5. Konoha and Keita meet in game store.

At the center even if it is only for name, it is Games that brought them together.

RandomCritic said:
Doing a criticism is one thing.
But belittling a series just because is not going the way you want is another.
You are not the only one i came a cross that has done this.
Taking anime/manga series that doesnt go your way they are trash.

RandomCritic said:
My sample of funimation i used was because you made the series be viewed as if its lame and trash. But guess what? This anime is very popular in Japan, the country it was made for, and so popular that funimation bought rights for a dub to bring it to the west. Funimation would not spend money for a lame series.
That is what i tried to say by using funimation.

RandomCritic said:
Crunchyroll? Ok you say you are paying the monthly fee? Fine, since crunchyroll is using that money to support the japanese animation industry, or so they say.
But there is still youtube.
You dont see anime in youtube?
If you say 'no' i'll say 'bs' because anyone has used youtube to watch anime.
Especially the english dub versions. (Which is illegal)
If you dont buy and have a copy of the dvd at hand of the anime, you are watching it for free brought to you by rip streams from Japan. So give thanks that you get to see them from someone who is ripping.

RandomCritic said:
So you say I insulted you by asuming and belittling? When i in fact just talked strongly for what you did.
If i have to apologize for it to you then you also have to apologize to this animation company who was kind enough to make an anime adaptation of this series for japan to enjoy that we watch as collatheral. Because you, maite, did the same to them. Insulting their work (the anime) and belittling it just because you thought the story was about games when in fact is about misunderstandings that were begining to show since chapter/episode one.
If you sincerely apologise to them I will apologize to you.
Fair deal.

RandomCritic said:
P.s. And maybe you are right. Maybe i should not had judged you, i let my emotions cloud my judgement. I had done my share of belittling a series in the past until someone opened my eyes. But i did my research of the series throughly before giving my judgement or criticism and stopped asuming things. So i can have "the right of the say".
And my criticism are often supported by the facts of the information i research before my review.
But i've been researching Japan and the anime industry for over 25 years. You mate, i dont know when you started.
But most people just criticize without a base to be based of and just give empty words.
For judging you i will apologize, for the rest (the supposed insulting you) i will not until you do. (To the series as you did the same as i said).

Agerno said:
We don't know with whom Amano will end. It may be Tendou-san, Chiaki or Konoha, although the last one is the less probable. I'm rooting for Chiaki.

Ziirf said:
lot of things

Chendroshee said:


Don't bother with this RandomCritic guy. He's such a diehard-it's-annoying of this show.

AsT5 said:


lol was konaha masterbating while playing the eroge in between the episode when chiaki called her

RandomCritic said:
1) Uhm... You do know that Gamers Began in 2015, right?
Of course only this year had not sold so many for the novel since the mayority of the sales were in 2015-2016.
Now if you had said the 30% was for the viewer votes of the anime and the sales of the anime dvd then it would be more beliavable.
And again, if the show was not popular, then funimation would not had bothered with it.

MomoSinX said:


I didn't think they would escalate her to that so fast but it was pleasant surprise XD.

MetaThPr4h said:


In the next episode of Gamers, Karen thinks that Amano is cheating on her with a pencil, and Aguri thinking that Uehara wants to murder her since there was ketchup spilled over a picture of her!

HyperL said:
I just love the number of people here who absolutely hate misunderstandings and yet refuse to drop a show in which the misunderstanding (and almost self aware dialogue) are the only thing keeping it from being just another generic piece of boredom.

RandomCritic said:

Konoha is not part of the harem.

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@Ziirf
It seems thatnwe have some misunderstandings of our own and i am going to make it clear unlike the characters in this series. And this will be my last comment on this conversation since is going off topic, replies after this will be ignored. But i do this to make things clear:

1) criticism is not the same as belittling. You pointed the bad of the show and much is sucks because you thought the show was about games but all they did was misunderstandings without knowing that the show is about misunderstandings. And when i let you know about it you spat on the show and called it generic worthless for it amd would drop it. Then when that other dude said about the sypnosis you made the excuse of it. The only thing i am guilty of is claiming that you are going to drop the series because of the misunderstandings and you could not see the beauty of it because you find it annoying and stupid. But i gave you the benefit of the doubt because you are not japanese, you do not understand. My second mistake was adding you to the pile of trollers that belittle the show because of it and just like to bash it because the show takes on a topic westerners do not understand. And call the show lame because it decieved them.

2) Once more, my mention of funimation is because you made your comment sound like this show is worthless and unpopular and i mentioned funimation to show how popular the show is. And to the Japanese, our opinions matter not.

3) you dont watch anime in youtube? Yeah, bs. Second: skeptical about crunchyroll? I never said crunchyroll were doing illegal streams. I was talking about youtube. Read the comments well.

4) i never said i was in the industry. I said i had been researching Japan and the anime industry for over 25 years.

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My bief with you was not because you like or not like the show. Not because of your opinion you will drop it. A criticsm say you dont like it and then go.
My bief is like with them, you are viewing and giving opinions on the show with a western standpoint saying that the characters has to do things with x or y reason like countries outside Japan do. You are jusdging with the mind of a westerner and one can not do thwt for a show made for Japan.
You and other people misunderstood the show and talked about it without looking for information about why the show is how it is and judge it by your standards. Thing that can not be done for a show which audience is not made for.

@ everyone (Now being general) The answers are so easy to see and you all people just judge to make asumptions because is not your stand point of view.
My point is that no one can judge a series with a western mind point! Because the show was not made for us! Before judging you have to do research and look for the "why is this show doing this" before making a decision.
And if you dont like it, you have the right to do so and state your opinion; but calling the show lame and sucks just because is one way, without looking the reason why is how it is, is just belitting and not criticism.
In this forum, there has been one too many people insulting the show just because they dont sit down and look for the reason of why a show is how it is, and judge it by western stand point and call it lame.
Well, first mistake is judge a japanese show with a western point of view. Shows like this are representations on how cultures and life in japan is. And since we are not japanese, unless we research the why, we cannot judge. Its diferent culture.
This show is not dragon ball, is not swordart online, is not blue exorsist or similar shows the like. Those shows are fantasy shows that have a general stand point.
Shows like gamers involves japanese culture and how they live and is the way to see their daily lives and is what they want in Japan. This is why this show is popular in Japan. They know what is going on because they live it.
And this show is an exhajeration of those things in a humorous ways.
But what viewers come when first see it: "ah! It has games title, the show has gamers, the show is about games!" Then they see the teenage drama: "what is this bs?! Where is the games?! Why are there so many misunderstandings?! There characters are stupid?! This sucks! Laame, this show is bullshit! Why dont they just talk about it?!" Commenting without researching why the show is how it is.
Meanwhike in japan: "this show is great! I love the characters. Yeah these bunch of misunderstandings are possible since even I lived through it. We can not talk about it because it affects the harmony of people so we have to keep quiet for peace as it shoukd. But this show is a protest that we should talk, but is embarrasing and we might get bullied".

For the Japanese, talking about your problems is taboo, and expressing your opinions about what you think of someone is rude. So they just asume things by impressions which brings the so many conflicts in school life and jobs and how cold shoulders and social bullying comes to be.
And this show is an exageration of it.

Sure, we find it absurd! But that is how Japanese people are.
And we are taking anime for granted. Making judgement and expressing opinions with our western point of view as if anime was made for us, when indeed is not.
Anime was made for Japan and the japanese only. So stories are going to be adressed with japanese culture issues.
Just how american comics are made for america.
Korean games are made for koreans.
And literature are made for the countries asigned to.

Stop judging a japanese show with a western mind and look for the reason why a show is how it is!
Just enjoy the series as how they are! Japanese entertaiment!
And stop talking as if a japanese animation was made for your country!

@Ziirf
You have the right to have your opinion. But you dont have the right to misjudge a series without knowing the reason why is made how it is. Else you'll be just doing the talk to the talk like those others had done.

Before you did not know the reason why the show is how it is. Now you know.
You're still going to drop it?
My disapointment is that you cant appreciate the beauty of the show for what it is: a chaotic teen comedy with misunderstandings to exhajerate situations japanese people goes through daily.
And will leave it because it doesnt not fit your western standards.

Now i say: this show was not meant to be taken seriously. This show was meant as how it is, a chaotic comedy of teen drama as exhajeration. A rollercoaster with ups and downs that will make you cheer for the characters and other times facepalm at their idiocy.
But that's what is made for. To have those reactions and just enjoy as it is.
But you said you find it annoying and will drop it.
Then fine.
Still kniw that even if you drop it it will not change anything. But stop saying that you dont like it becauee is stupid if you dont know why it was made how it is.
The reason why i spat at you with this comment about the dropping is because many viewers says they hate a show and will drop it with arrogance and as if the show was made for them. And i assumed you were one of thoee people by the way you said things. So i let you know that the series was not made foe your name like i tell those people so they get down of tbeir high horse.
You tried to say that you are not one of them people. Then i apologized for judging you as such. It is hard to tell in text who is being sincere and who is just an arrogant stuckup prick.

Now i am done.
Blessings and good day.

P.s.

@ everyone and @Agerno
Another misunderstanding i am seeing is this one:
We are getting too used to harem stories that every time we see a new girl we quickly assume is another harem candidate for the Mc.
This is the case with Konoha.
For kami's sake! Stop assuming Konoha is a love interest for Amano!
Tbis is not that type of story! She was never cathegorized as being part of the main cast! She is a support character!
She is not even in the cover!
This is a love triangle not a pentagon or a harem!
The only love interest and rivals here are Karen and Chiaki and no one else!
First of all, Konoha liies cute girls. Its been shown since the beginning.
Second, Konoha has never shown any interest to the Mc. And she just got dragged into the mess.
Third, Konoha has been asking questions to Amano pointing in the direction that she is trying to hook Amano and Chiaki up!
Just because she had expressed some admiration towards Amano by how he expressed his love for visual novels does NOT mean Konoha will fall head over heels for Amano just like Karen did.

And another clue is that Konoha loves her sister very much and she is not the type to steal the guy the sister she loves likes!
She is not that type of character.
But since we were getting a lot of harem stories this year we got quick to assume, but the clues she is not are right there.

Well... I am autistic so i have a more expanded keen observational skills.

Agerno said:


Well, I've never considered it to be a harem. I've always thought Amano will end with only one person, and there are many possibilities. We can't get rid of Konoha since she is now supposed to be Nobe and Mono and she has the same hobby as Amano.
I said that she is the less likely to end as Amano's girlfriend, but she could. I just back Chiaki.

RandomCritic said:
stuff

Tokoya said:
This episode was going so good until the halfway point -_- I absolutely despise how much of a fucking plot device these misunderstandings have become

And to make matters worse, I was EXTRA PISSED to see Chiaki act like a fucking idiot and lie to Keita about her sister being Mono/Nobe instead of coming clean about it all -_-

FOR FUCK SAKES MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm an so tired of this shit