Jason_Funderberk said: Do you know what paragraphs are? Please dude, that lump of letters is intimidating (constructive criticism)Kuraokani said: When did I say the alpha males thing, or did you try to predict what I would say next? Nice try, that trick doesn't work in real life. Also, as I was saying, it IS my opinion, and since that is something that is 100% up to subjective taste that's why I disliked how you said it shouldn't exist at all. Also, I REALLY didn't want to draw a direct connection to you because that isn't my style, so I used very general terms, but when I said hating Shinji meant rejecting your own flaws rather than trying to improve them, I was referring to you. If you hate Shinji, nomatter what it's so that you won't have to acknowledge that you have similarities to him. Shinji has a handful of positive qualities, but the nature of Evangelion highlights the worst in him, and in extention, what all of us as the viewers could be (or even are in some cases). The way you denied having any similarities with Shinji at all and even tried to paint him as a useless waste of a person, isn't the way someone would react if they truly just couldn't relate to him much. In reality, you don't want to relate to him because he is everything you don't want to be (Well not everything, but he is a lot of what you don't want to be and that bled into his other qualities making him seem even worse) and therefore you reject him completely, even pretending that he is unrealistic to further boost your claims. If you truly just didn't go through the problems Shinji did (everyone does, but if you had a very supportive upbringing then those insecurities would be pretty negligable), you wouldn't feel annoyed with Shinji at all, or think badly of him. You would either find it kind of entertaining or it just wouldn't be interesting, and Shinji himself wouldn't really affect your opinion too much. Now I'm not an expert in psychology at all, I only know what I know. But what I have learned is that hating anything means you care about it because it relates to yourself, and I knew this because I could be a pretty hateful person sometimes when I was younger (not even by that much), I would get in bitter internet arguements all the time and I would act like a pretentious piece of shit because I was insecure about myself, but I learned alot since then, mostly from other people actually being mature, even when I wasn't, which highlighted my immaturity, and I realized that hating anything at all was pointless, especially things that don't directly affect you.That's your opinion. I'm not saying that you're not allowed to have a opinion, I'm simply stating that I do not like these types of characters. I have nothing in common with Shinji. I do like how you claim to know the psychological state of "most people" though. In my opinion, crybaby MCs are annoying and not entertaining to watch because I have nothing in common with them (personality wise). Watching someone cry and complain about everything that dosent go their way is annoying. I wouldn't do it in real life and I won't do it while watching t.v. I don't pity Shinji, I can't relate to Shinji and I sure as hell don't agree with his decisions and actions. He's a crybaby with daddy issues and really selfish. "Well some people relate to him" I don't. I never will. Sure, I have my own problems, but I don't run away from them or cower in a corner and wait for things to get better, and I sure as hell don't use the environment or company I'm in as a excuse to act like a brat. "Oh well you're just the most alpha of alpha males then, huh?" If that's what you consider me to be then it's your opinion. Thats not going to change how I see my self or the way I see other people. Not really, I was just quoting someone else. I thought it might speed up the progression of this conversation if you knew how I'd respond to such a statement. I'm by no means trying to predict what you would say. Honestly, I don't think I could. Now that that's said, You do understand what this thread is for right? It seems like you're missing the whole point. It's for people to vent about what they don't like in the community/industry (essentially). When I say that I want to see the "crybaby" types of MCs to disappear, I'm not saying that the industry would be better odd without them. I'm simply stating that I do not like these types of MCs and I would be happier if they would disappear. I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone else. I'm still amazed at how you can say that everyone has similar qualities to Shinji. It truly amazes me that you could make a claim like that. Going a little off topic, if you don't mind answering a question of mine, do you have a degree in psychology? So you don't feel like you're being questioned, I'll answer myself, I have a A.A degree. I'm by no means a psychologist or philosopher, but I don't think I'd be over stepping my bounds by saying that I understand the human conscience (or at least better than you). The majority of people don't deal with psychological issues like Shinji does. A typical 14 year old dosent think about the things Shinji does (philosophy). It's absurd to say that he is a realistic 14 year old. As far as me "hating" Shinji goes, I don't. I never said that I hate the character as a "person", I said that I hate his archetype. The only reason we are having this conversation is because you replied to my post, defending Shinji and making all sorts of wild claims. Once again I'll say, I do not hate Shinji, I hate his attitude, his lack of resolve, and more than anything, his selfishness. |
| Romance tagged animes where no coupling happens. (KEEPING THEIR FEELINGS INSIDE FOR THE SAKE OF CRINGE DRAMA MAKES ME PISSED ASF). The whole idea of bitch-slapping a character when he sees the heroine's panties and that trash kind of cliché. These things are so repetitive they aren't even fan service anymore, just fan-killing clichés. |
| Sports anime that has yaoi undertones. Shit like Free, Haikyuu, Yuri On Ice Hope shows like that cease to exist Yuri anime, please no one wants this shit, let it die out |
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| 'I love you because you're you. I'm happy that you're whole. I don't care if there are sides of you that I don't know, or don't like. If that's who you are, that's fine. As long as you're whole, that's enough for me.'-Kouko Kaga |
Kuraokani said: Okay, I'll try to make paragraphs, but the thought hasn't even occured to me to do so. Also, I do not have a degree in psychology, and if I did, I wouldn't state so, unless specifically asked, because then it might make someone feel like my opinion has more validation than theirs which would ruin the purpose of explaining my point of view. In fact, just in case you didn't look at my profile, I am a 15 year old boy who is in the 10th grade of high school, so it's not like I would be an expert in that subject.Jason_Funderberk said: Do you know what paragraphs are? Please dude, that lump of letters is intimidating (constructive criticism) When did I say the alpha males thing, or did you try to predict what I would say next? Nice try, that trick doesn't work in real life. Also, as I was saying, it IS my opinion, and since that is something that is 100% up to subjective taste that's why I disliked how you said it shouldn't exist at all. Also, I REALLY didn't want to draw a direct connection to you because that isn't my style, so I used very general terms, but when I said hating Shinji meant rejecting your own flaws rather than trying to improve them, I was referring to you. If you hate Shinji, nomatter what it's so that you won't have to acknowledge that you have similarities to him. Shinji has a handful of positive qualities, but the nature of Evangelion highlights the worst in him, and in extention, what all of us as the viewers could be (or even are in some cases). The way you denied having any similarities with Shinji at all and even tried to paint him as a useless waste of a person, isn't the way someone would react if they truly just couldn't relate to him much. In reality, you don't want to relate to him because he is everything you don't want to be (Well not everything, but he is a lot of what you don't want to be and that bled into his other qualities making him seem even worse) and therefore you reject him completely, even pretending that he is unrealistic to further boost your claims. If you truly just didn't go through the problems Shinji did (everyone does, but if you had a very supportive upbringing then those insecurities would be pretty negligable), you wouldn't feel annoyed with Shinji at all, or think badly of him. You would either find it kind of entertaining or it just wouldn't be interesting, and Shinji himself wouldn't really affect your opinion too much. Now I'm not an expert in psychology at all, I only know what I know. But what I have learned is that hating anything means you care about it because it relates to yourself, and I knew this because I could be a pretty hateful person sometimes when I was younger (not even by that much), I would get in bitter internet arguements all the time and I would act like a pretentious piece of shit because I was insecure about myself, but I learned alot since then, mostly from other people actually being mature, even when I wasn't, which highlighted my immaturity, and I realized that hating anything at all was pointless, especially things that don't directly affect you. Not really, I was just quoting someone else. I thought it might speed up the progression of this conversation if you knew how I'd respond to such a statement. I'm by no means trying to predict what you would say. Honestly, I don't think I could. Now that that's said, You do understand what this thread is for right? It seems like you're missing the whole point. It's for people to vent about what they don't like in the community/industry (essentially). When I say that I want to see the "crybaby" types of MCs to disappear, I'm not saying that the industry would be better odd without them. I'm simply stating that I do not like these types of MCs and I would be happier if they would disappear. I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone else. I'm still amazed at how you can say that everyone has similar qualities to Shinji. It truly amazes me that you could make a claim like that. Going a little off topic, if you don't mind answering a question of mine, do you have a degree in psychology? So you don't feel like you're being questioned, I'll answer myself, I have a A.A degree. I'm by no means a psychologist or philosopher, but I don't think I'd be over stepping my bounds by saying that I understand the human conscience (or at least better than you). The majority of people don't deal with psychological issues like Shinji does. A typical 14 year old dosent think about the things Shinji does (philosophy). It's absurd to say that he is a realistic 14 year old. As far as me "hating" Shinji goes, I don't. I never said that I hate the character as a "person", I said that I hate his archetype. The only reason we are having this conversation is because you replied to my post, defending Shinji and making all sorts of wild claims. Once again I'll say, I do not hate Shinji, I hate his attitude, his lack of resolve, and more than anything, his selfishness. I felt the need to defend Shinji because you said he was a crybaby MC and that he ruined his story, and you even put him together with Haru and Yuuki. I could understand not being interested in that type of character, but hating an entire archetype isn't that fair. That's like saying every tsundere ever is bad, whether they are a realistic deconstruction or a bland stereotype in a harem anime that is there to pander to masochists. Or like hating an entire genre, like Fantasy, whether they are a very realistic and well developed world that is entirely believable like in Berserk or a mash of anime fantasy tropes without any proper world building like most Isekoi anime. Furthermore, the reasons you dislike Shinji aren't satisfying to me, because he does have some resolve throughout the anime, more than the average depressed and neglected teenager with no real reason to live. And his selfishness is hardly any reason to hate him as a character, it's one of his flaws that he learns to get over (how much he gets over it depends on which version of Evangelion you are watching). Shinji would be a bad character if he wasn't flawed. And for the type of story Evangelion is and the lessons it's trying to teach, Shinji is the perfect possible protagonist, far from ruining the story, unless of course you think every robot anime needs to be like Gurren Lagann. Also, since you don't believe me when I say that Shinji is realistic, I will try to provide examples (I probably should have done this from the start). https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/6ccsuw/i_wish_i_was_a_different_person/dhv08y4/?context=3 This here is a real life example of someone who acts like Shinji. Shinji of course doesn't say "I wish" as much but if the events of Evangelion never happened he likely would have been. The Reddit post was an extreme example but everyone has moments where they doubt themselves and say "I wish" which is what people say when they have no hope for themselves and want a better starting point. What most people don't realize when they say these things though that saying "I wish" only closes paths for growth and happiness. Shinji was made as an example of someone who would rather imagine what their life could be like if they are someone else, and with him put in a position where he would be forced to focus on what is instead of what could be, and some viewers hate this because they want to see what they want to be, not what they are. Shinji hates himself, which makes it easy for others to hate him to just for how pathetic he is. You are right when you say he is selfish, anyone who wastes time saying "I wish" is. The point of his character is to expose the corners of yourself that are the same way, not so you can feel bad, but so you can grow and take control of your own life. That's why everyone is so harsh on Shinji in the show. In the reboot movies, Shinji overcomes his selfishness in a more conventional way in the second movie, but he is punished for it due to the cynical nature of Evangelion's world. While in Gurren Lagann the robots are powered by the fighting spirit of the pilot, Evangelion's are sentient beings who have a very motherly nature, and only work for those it desires to protect. That's why all of the pilots are depressed neglected teenagers with tons of complexes built up. In fact, Shinji's dad deliberately neglected him in order to make him the perfect pilot for his Evangelion. The problem is, once he decided to fight for something other than himself, the Evangelion stopped helping him and since he crashed directly into an angel, the third impact happened and everybody else hated him. There wouldn't even be a possible narrative without someone like Shinji as the MC. Okay, now in order to stop myself from getting too off topic, I will return to addressing your comment. When you said you hate the whole archetype of the "beta-male protagonist," and you would be happy uf it went away, that would be getting rid of an entire type of person, the type of person that, even in small amounts exists in everyone. The part of us that doubts ourselves and the part that can be selfish. If this was removed, almost every anime would be reduced in quality and realism, and the amount of 3 dimensional characters around would be drastically smaller. Character development wouldn't have nearly as much flexibility and the only decent things left would be Shonens like One Piece and JoJo (but not part 7) where the protagonists just happen to be people who have almost no self doubt due to having either clearly defined purposes from early life and/or weren't completely fleshed out. Everything else would have very little character development if nobody could be like Shinji. Of course I know this isn't really what you meant, but that's how it would be in execution unless you handpicked protagonists to no longer exist. What I'm trying to say is, Shinji isn't just relatable to "some people," he is relatable to everyone, as long as the person in question is willing to see and admit their own flaws rather than cover them up. Sorry for the long post, and of I got too off track as I made this post over a decent amount of time and had a few brakes. If something seems a bit intrusive I might have worded it wrong as I haven't been posting all at once. |
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| [quote=Jason_Funderberk message=52194996] Kuraokani said: Jason_Funderberk said: Do you know what paragraphs are? Please dude, that lump of letters is intimidating (constructive criticism) When did I say the alpha males thing, or did you try to predict what I would say next? Nice try, that trick doesn't work in real life. Also, as I was saying, it IS my opinion, and since that is something that is 100% up to subjective taste that's why I disliked how you said it shouldn't exist at all. Also, I REALLY didn't want to draw a direct connection to you because that isn't my style, so I used very general terms, but when I said hating Shinji meant rejecting your own flaws rather than trying to improve them, I was referring to you. If you hate Shinji, nomatter what it's so that you won't have to acknowledge that you have similarities to him. Shinji has a handful of positive qualities, but the nature of Evangelion highlights the worst in him, and in extention, what all of us as the viewers could be (or even are in some cases). The way you denied having any similarities with Shinji at all and even tried to paint him as a useless waste of a person, isn't the way someone would react if they truly just couldn't relate to him much. In reality, you don't want to relate to him because he is everything you don't want to be (Well not everything, but he is a lot of what you don't want to be and that bled into his other qualities making him seem even worse) and therefore you reject him completely, even pretending that he is unrealistic to further boost your claims. If you truly just didn't go through the problems Shinji did (everyone does, but if you had a very supportive upbringing then those insecurities would be pretty negligable), you wouldn't feel annoyed with Shinji at all, or think badly of him. You would either find it kind of entertaining or it just wouldn't be interesting, and Shinji himself wouldn't really affect your opinion too much. Now I'm not an expert in psychology at all, I only know what I know. But what I have learned is that hating anything means you care about it because it relates to yourself, and I knew this because I could be a pretty hateful person sometimes when I was younger (not even by that much), I would get in bitter internet arguements all the time and I would act like a pretentious piece of shit because I was insecure about myself, but I learned alot since then, mostly from other people actually being mature, even when I wasn't, which highlighted my immaturity, and I realized that hating anything at all was pointless, especially things that don't directly affect you. Not really, I was just quoting someone else. I thought it might speed up the progression of this conversation if you knew how I'd respond to such a statement. I'm by no means trying to predict what you would say. Honestly, I don't think I could. Now that that's said, You do understand what this thread is for right? It seems like you're missing the whole point. It's for people to vent about what they don't like in the community/industry (essentially). When I say that I want to see the "crybaby" types of MCs to disappear, I'm not saying that the industry would be better odd without them. I'm simply stating that I do not like these types of MCs and I would be happier if they would disappear. I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone else. I'm still amazed at how you can say that everyone has similar qualities to Shinji. It truly amazes me that you could make a claim like that. Going a little off topic, if you don't mind answering a question of mine, do you have a degree in psychology? So you don't feel like you're being questioned, I'll answer myself, I have a A.A degree. I'm by no means a psychologist or philosopher, but I don't think I'd be over stepping my bounds by saying that I understand the human conscience (or at least better than you). The majority of people don't deal with psychological issues like Shinji does. A typical 14 year old dosent think about the things Shinji does (philosophy). It's absurd to say that he is a realistic 14 year old. As far as me "hating" Shinji goes, I don't. I never said that I hate the character as a "person", I said that I hate his archetype. The only reason we are having this conversation is because you replied to my post, defending Shinji and making all sorts of wild claims. Once again I'll say, I do not hate Shinji, I hate his attitude, his lack of resolve, and more than anything, his selfishness. Okay, I'll try to make paragraphs, but the thought hasn't even occured to me to do so. Also, I do not have a degree in psychology, and if I did, I wouldn't state so, unless specifically asked, because then it might make someone feel like my opinion has more validation than theirs which would ruin the purpose of explaining my point of view. In fact, just in case you didn't look at my profile, I am a 15 year old boy who is in the 10th grade of high school, so it's not like I would be an expert in that subject. Okay, thanks far that (paragraphs). Okay, so this is what I've got so far, you don't have any sort of education in Philosophy or Psychology, but you have a lot of opinions on topics involving those two fields. I'm not saying that your opinions are invalid, all I'm saying is that before you start making wild claims like that, you should really at least learn about the two subjects. You can't just say that everyone has some sort of inner psychological disorders that make them relate to Shinji in some way or the other. That's just groundless babble to me because I know different. Normal teenagers rarely contemplate philosophy. Especially questions involving "What makes you, you?" and "Who decides morals?". It's not normal for someone so young to have a existential crisis like that. It's really not. I felt the need to defend Shinji because you said he was a crybaby MC and that he ruined his story, and you even put him together with Haru and Yuuki. I could understand not being interested in that type of character, but hating an entire archetype isn't that fair. That's like saying every tsundere ever is bad, whether they are a realistic deconstruction or a bland stereotype in a harem anime that is there to pander to masochists. Or like hating an entire genre, like Fantasy, whether they are a very realistic and well developed world that is entirely believable like in Berserk or a mash of anime fantasy tropes without any proper world building like most Isekoi anime. How's it wrong to say that you don't like something in its entirety? Some people don't like Fantasy shows. My mom hates everything "Fantasy" from The Lord of The Rings to Harry Potter. It's not illogical to think that someone can not like a specific genre/character archetype. Furthermore, the reasons you dislike Shinji aren't satisfying to me, because he does have some resolve throughout the anime, more than the average depressed and neglected teenager with no real reason to live. And his selfishness is hardly any reason to hate him as a character, it's one of his flaws that he learns to get over (how much he gets over it depends on which version of Evangelion you are watching). Shinji would be a bad character if he wasn't flawed. And for the type of story Evangelion is and the lessons it's trying to teach, Shinji is the perfect possible protagonist, far from ruining the story, unless of course you think every robot anime needs to be like Gurren Lagann. Oh I'm sorry! I didn't realize that you have to approve the reasoning behind not enjoying something! Please forgive me! That aside, Shinji is everything that makes a bad protagonist. His annoying, selfish, and quite frankly, a idiot. He is everything that I don't like in a MC. That's not because I see myself in Shinji, it's because I see a annoying 14 year old brat. That's as simple as it gets. You're trying to make disliking Shinji a matter of psychologically when it's really not. Also, since you don't believe me when I say that Shinji is realistic, I will try to provide examples (I probably should have done this from the start). https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/6ccsuw/i_wish_i_was_a_different_person/dhv08y4/?context=3 This here is a real life example of someone who acts like Shinji. Shinji of course doesn't say "I wish" as much but if the events of Evangelion never happened he likely would have been. Lmao, so your "example" is one person on Reddit? How about you find me a study conducted by a creditable source and I might be willing to have a serious conversation about its contents. Until then, one person does not speak for the majority. The Reddit post was an extreme example but everyone has moments where they doubt themselves and say "I wish" which is what people say when they have no hope for themselves and want a better starting point. What most people don't realize when they say these things though that saying "I wish" only closes paths for growth and happiness. Shinji was made as an example of someone who would rather imagine what their life could be like if they are someone else, and with him put in a position where he would be forced to focus on what is instead of what could be, and some viewers hate this because they want to see what they want to be, not what they are. Okay, I get the point you are trying to make and I agree. I really do. That being said, people may doubt decisions they make or hate the person they are, but it's not on a Shinji level. Especially at 14 years old. If you doubt yourself and hate what you are at 14, you should definitely go see a therapist. That's not normal at that age. Let's just say that we use a individuals example. Let's just say that we do have a "real" 14 year old who is going through the same thing that Shinji is going through during the events of Evangelion. The character progression was still unrealistic. You don't deal with your psychological disorders by contemplating philosophy. It makes no sense! If you think that's a "realistic" approach, please explain why. Shinji hates himself, which makes it easy for others to hate him to just for how pathetic he is. You are right when you say he is selfish, anyone who wastes time saying "I wish" is. The point of his character is to expose the corners of yourself that are the same way, not so you can feel bad, but so you can grow and take control of your own life. That's why everyone is so harsh on Shinji in the show. In the reboot movies, Shinji overcomes his selfishness in a more conventional way in the second movie, but he is punished for it due to the cynical nature of Evangelion's world. While in Gurren Lagann the robots are powered by the fighting spirit of the pilot, Evangelion's are sentient beings who have a very motherly nature, and only work for those it desires to protect. That's why all of the pilots are depressed neglected teenagers with tons of complexes built up. In fact, Shinji's dad deliberately neglected him in order to make him the perfect pilot for his Evangelion. The problem is, once he decided to fight for something other than himself, the Evangelion stopped helping him and since he crashed directly into an angel, the third impact happened and everybody else hated him. There wouldn't even be a possible narrative without someone like Shinji as the MC. Thanks for spoiling the movies when we were talking about the T.V series. Anyways, I don't have much to say against that because I haven't seen the movies. Then again, I had no idea we were discussing those. Okay, now in order to stop myself from getting too off topic, I will return to addressing your comment. When you said you hate the whole archetype of the "beta-male protagonist," and you would be happy uf it went away, that would be getting rid of an entire type of person, the type of person that, even in small amounts exists in everyone. The part of us that doubts ourselves and the part that can be selfish. If this was removed, almost every anime would be reduced in quality and realism, and the amount of 3 dimensional characters around would be drastically smaller. Character development wouldn't have nearly as much flexibility and the only decent things left would be Shonens like One Piece and JoJo (but not part 7) where the protagonists just happen to be people who have almost no self doubt due to having either clearly defined purposes from early life and/or weren't completely fleshed out. Everything else would have very little character development if nobody could be like Shinji. Of course I know this isn't really what you meant, but that's how it would be in execution unless you handpicked protagonists to no longer exist. Huh? You can still use psychological disorders to further develop a character. I never said that you couldn't. I actually enjoy seeing a character work through their inner issues and struggles. What I'm saying (and have been this whole time) is that I don't like when a character is a "crybaby". I mean, look at that dude from Orange. He was a great character. He was depressed and had a lot of regrets, but he wasn't a "beta-bitch" by any means. He was the type of character that you could root for. One that you wanted to see happy because you genuinely liked him. Shinji wasn't. I couldn't root for Shinji or pity him because I didn't like watching the little selfish brat. He was annoying. Crying in a corner, letting people talk to him any way they wanted, and generally acting like a "beta-male". You have two characters with some deep rooted psychological issues. One is a good guy. He cares for the people around him and how his actions affect the. The other acts selfish. He runs away at every opportunity he gets and dosent if his actions affect the people around him. I'm clearly rooting for the former. What I'm trying to say is, Shinji isn't just relatable to "some people," he is relatable to everyone, as long as the person in question is willing to see and admit their own flaws rather than cover them up. Sorry for the long post, and of I got too off track as I made this post over a decent amount of time and had a few brakes. If something seems a bit intrusive I might have worded it wrong as I haven't been posting all at once. I'm sorry but I'm going have to insist that you're wrong. Not all of us see a piece of themselves in Shinji. Assuming that you know how everyone thinks was your first mistake. Edit: I forgot to mention this but I'm a sociopath |
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DoodlebugFour said: Actually Ghost in the Shell is one my favorite movies, with SAC is my fav part of the Franchise. It's when generic light novels does these slow @$$ narrations (bonus if they get a boring sounding old man to narrate) to tell rather than show to save animation money. That I might as well read a book than fall asleep out of boredom. XD |
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Nomar_95 said: Shinji is one of the most well-written MCs though..... +1 I am thinking some fans don't like Shinji is because is not the generic MC we see in anime nowdays |
Kuraokani said: The only response I have is I don't care. I have nothing against yuri. Everyone can watch what they want. I don't care for sports anime, either, these days.DoctorWasabi said: @YaoiMaster Sports anime that has yaoi undertones. Shit like Free, Haikyuu, Yuri On Ice Hope shows like that cease to exist Yuri anime, please no one wants this shit, let it die out What are your thoughts on this matter? this should be good *giggles* |
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DoctorWasabi said: Sports anime that has yaoi undertones. Shit like Free, Haikyuu, Yuri On Ice Hope shows like that cease to exist Yuri anime, please no one wants this shit, let it die out There is nothing Yaoi about Haikyuu wtf. |
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| Each and harem !!!! It's Very very bad, I hate it |
| Nothing will disappear anyway. I don't like many things like the dumb perverted harem main characters but I can't change it. |
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LICK_IT_GOOD said: alphaAngel said: Lolis. They are so annoying. The classic "Onii-chan" little sister figure, especially. if lolis disappear it would be planetary disaster It would make so many animes worth watching :) |
| I wish to see haters disappear...but obvz that is impossible |
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| The lazy undetailed art style. It usually changes about every 10 years so it will definitively go away but only time will tell if that will improve or won't. |
SenseiJ said: dadnaya said: I used gamers for the example of "Really dumb characters" I already know its not Harem haha lolGamers! isn't a Harem though. You're giving an answer to the question but giving a different example Ohhh I see. Then I misunderstood. Gamers! characters are pretty dumb lol, I can agree on that |
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| Here's the thing. Men and boys aren't expected to cry, even when they're sad or distressed. Anime, manga, and very angsty/realistic comics do that. If we get rid of "crybaby boys", what kind of message does that send to sensitive guys who do cry and aren't big, strong, and tough? Some guys are just naturally emotional and can't handle a lot of stress or heavy issues. We think of women and girls as being naturally sensitive, emotionally frail, and touchy-feely so when they cry over things it's seen as normal and expected. I hate female crybabies, I'm fine with male crybabies. There are other things I wish would be gone that I know won't be and those include: Brother-Sister Complexes (Japan's culture surrounding siblings is too ingrained to be removed, it's as knee-jerk as how in the West it's expected that the older sibling mistreats the younger, or the younger sibling is a brat that never gets in trouble). Tsunderes, specifically the really bossy, bitchy, holier-than-thou, unapologetically rude Tsunderes. Tsunderes that are actually guarded and cautious because of bad experiences with friends and love I can understand (such as Mei Tachibana from "Say I Love You". I love her character growth and I would say I see a lot of myself in her). School Club anime. I am done with School Clubs. I don't give a shit about School Clubs. There is literally nothing new you can do with School Clubs. School Clubs are like the 80s-90s family sitcom of the anime world -- over0saturated, generic, mindless, and trope-heavy. The very tired "Ultra Mega Average Personality-less guy is suddenly surrounded by girls who want him for some reason". He's not particularly funny, smart, witty, badass, athletic, or kind. He's just...the most average person ever and somehow all these girls like him. I find that so unrealistic and annoying that it's insane. That's not how it works: In order to even have friends you have to bring SOMETHING to the table, whether it's your ability to play rhythm games, recite The Divine Comedy from memory, code websites, or balance apples on each other. SOMETHING to make spending more than five minutes with another person not a huge waste of time. I want dudes with personality in those harem animes. PERSONALITY. |
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well many animes are worth watching only because of lolis, but you are a female, you cant understand that xD |
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| I want the industry to stop giving their workers slave wages. |
| This shit: *Picture an accident that happened between multiple characters* Character 1: -I'm so sorry, it's totally my fault, I'm the one who... Character 2: -What are you talking about? This was my fault, It was I who... Character 3: -Come on, the blame is obviously on me. If I haven't done.... Character 4: -I'm the one responsible for this. I... UGH. JUST ADMIT THAT IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT AND EQUALLY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT. PERIOD. I hate this type of scene. It deserves to cease existing. |
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| censored anime, censored anything, especially censored titties needs to go now. actually all censorship during TV releases should just leave the industry. whats the point of drawing/animating in stuff like titties, pantsu, whatever else that is censored, if your'e just gonna censor it? you might as well not draw it at all. i mean it is more work/editing right? so why not just leave it in all the time. if the nip is already there why waste more time/effort/manpower/money to censor it if theres a nip, dont cut off the tip. |
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| Crybabies, omg yes, the first post was right. I'm never more angry than trying to watch anime with them. I notice my lips always curled in disgust and I can't believe they'd make such a useless, selfish, self-pitying character the main. Lol, and here i was going to say moe, which is everywhere and I hate. I guess moe will have to wait until the death of the crybabies. Btw, we should make this a poll |
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| What are you doing on this thread!?! Back to the drawing pits slave! 'cracks whip' |
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| - Isekai LN adaptations, no, shitty LN adaptations in general - Great animators/producers wasting their time on generic shounen jump garbage (like the recent Hero academia or whatever its called) rather than doing more original works that let's them express the full extent of their visions/talents. Too bad that's never going to happen... - Anime video game adaptations...Seriously...why? If a full fledged Hollywood studio can't make a decent live action VG movie adaptation even if its life depended on it then what makes you think some small, understaffed and overworked anime studio can do it. Don't really care about the "community" or whatever you want to call it since most people who watch anime nowadays are either young immature teenagers or whiny manchildren who post crappy "analyses" about the medium on Youtube, thinking that their opinion matters more than anyone else's. |
Comic_Sans said: American anime dubs not done by actual VAs Legal streaming services Paperbryce Annoying loli voice VAs hold on a minute playa. >American anime dubs not done by actual VA most dubs are done by actual voice actors, they aren't done by top tier voice actors tho, a lot of them are just ok at acting but there are many good actors working in the industry (most of them work for funimation and aniplex). unfortunately many good voice actors like laura bailey,Kari Wahlgren, troy baker,Jamieson price and crispin freeman don't many do dubs anymore because they get paid more when they work on games and american cartoons so if you want all the dubs to be made by A+ voice actors you should support the dubbing companies. >Legal streaming services lol why? they shouldn't disappear, they should improve. >Paperbryce lol i agree. he's a fine as a side character but they should stop giving him lead roles. >Annoying loli voice VA AGREED |
| I'd also like to see more anime involving adult characters. They've opened a new market to older viewers and Americans, who are less obsessed with teenage superheroes and MCs. For those of us who've left High School angst far behind, the potential of relative sophistication in anime storytelling for adults is far more promising and diversified. For people on here complaining about tropes, predictability and textbook genre anime, school-based characters are abundant and there. FOR THOSE OF US who actually mature with age, who see a clear line of distinction between high school and the real world but think anime has a unique ability for storytelling, we look forward to being portrayed more often. |
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| @Kuraokani i guess you must not have been through school with a lot of 14 year olds. guess what a lot of them ARE crybabies. hes also a crybaby but hes still a badass. you don't need to be an asshole or "manly man" to be a good MC character as for why ganta is such a wuss in the anime that was mostly a anime only thing. in deadman wonderlands manga hes much more of a badass. and yet people wonder why i hate the anime's transgressions from the manga for deadman wonderland :| speaking of. what i want to see disapear from the anime industry anime that butcher the source material and anime used for a giant advertisement for the manga/ LN (i.e no second season want more GO BUY THE LIGHT NOVEL :D :D $$$$$) |
GrimAtramentSep 5, 2017 8:22 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
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