Knight's & Magic Episode 9 Discussion

Stark700 said:
Elenora's father really does care about her father.

Aversa said:
Her father cares about her father?

Lord_of_Anime said:
Good action and cool new mechs are the only saving grace in this episode...it's far to late in the anime to just now start a war and the real conflict of the anime!

I like the anime but the pacing and plot development has been all over the map and this episode was no different. The story is just one big jumbled mess where they're trying to cover so much in so little time

Stark700 said:

Elenora's father really does care about her daughter. Too bad she also got captured.

Pretty cruel episode. The antagonists in thi show seems to have no mercy for their enemies and tbh, I think it's pretty stereotypical for their personalities. Eru seems to really enjoy fighting this episode in his upgraded mech.

Action this episode imo is better than some of the other episodes.

Aversa said:
So an enemy army finally appears and the story turned into the classical "saving the lady in distress" setting.

ZingFreelancer said:
What a train wreck of a show... Instead of a proper roar of engines and flames spewing from everywhere. We get blue particles and wish wish sounds when Ikaruga is flying. Ikaruga, the burning demon god, the machine that gave enemy PTSD the moment they lay eyes on it, is reduced to a wish wish blue fairy.


The original story is pretty much like this, author spent 3 novels setting up this war, finally kicking it off in book 4.

bear808 said:
Seems the new bad guys, or old bad guys newly revealed, are fairly creative in modifying the tech they stole. A little puzzling though that they needed to steal tech. They created airships so invention isn't an issue. I guess I will have to write it off as them just needing a little push. I'd like to see how the mass produced mechs from the two countries match off.

bear808 said:
Opening threw me off for a few seconds until I realized they threw in the sound effect for the mechs and magic. Odd.

JCvetich said:
The pacing of this show is one of the most atrocious that I've ever seen.

Over half the season is about Ernesti building mechs and then all of the sudden.... WAR!

With a country we've never heard about! With characters we've never seen! Attacking a city we know nothing about! Kidnapping a princess who literally means nothing because... who is she?

I've been asking for a more interesting plot but not like this!

If it weren't for the fact that there's only four episodes left, I'd have dropped this show half-way through this train wreck of an episode.

After enough time past for a sigh, there was finally a response. The man raised one eyebrow, and the door of the fallen carriage was kicked opened from the inside. As the Žaloudek soldiers raised their weapons in surprise, a figure climbed out of the carriage slowly. It was Martina. She leapt on top of the carriage, and surveyed the grunt soldiers from high ground.

“Hmmp, you even brought Silhouette Knights, making a mountain out of a molehill. And? You don’t even dare speak to an unarmed woman without holding a weapon in hand?”

bear808 said:
Opening threw me off for a few seconds until I realized they threw in the sound effect for the mechs and magic. Odd.

Seems the new bad guys, or old bad guys newly revealed, are fairly creative in modifying the tech they stole. A little puzzling though that they needed to steal tech. They created airships so invention isn't an issue. I guess I will have to write it off as them just needing a little push. I'd like to see how the mass produced mechs from the two countries match off.

tehhead said:

silhoute knights and airship have different engine
sillhoutte use ether reactor, airship is on ether converter or something like that

ZingFreelancer said:


Princess is daughter to current king of Kuschpercha. The king has a brother who is married to a red haired woman called Martina, they have equally red haired daughter Isadola. Martina is daughter of Ambrosius Fremmevira, sister to current king and aunt to Emrys Fremmevira (aka young master, aka I won this mech from my grandfather guy). Emrys were sent to Martina so she could give him a proper education in etiquette, he came back from Kuschpercha in time for his father's coronation.

Once the war broke out and Kuschpercha was invaded, Emrys decided to go to Kuschpercha and bring his aunt back to Fremmevira . His grandfather insisted that he take Silver Phoenix Knights as his guardians and act discretely in order not to drag the entire kingdom of Fremmevira into war. Martina was family, but she was also married to a royalty of another nation.

So in order to "maintain" cover, they rebranded Silver Phoenix Knights into Silver Phoenix Merchants. Apparently it not unusually for travelling merchant from Fremmevira (or other nations) to employ SK for protection against bandits and demon beasts.

Emrys aunt is quite a trouble maker herself, upon being intercepted by Black Knights and foot soldiers, she stepped out of the wagon and said following:


Now the enemy kingdom of Zaloudek have had a long lasting desire to reunite (read conquer) all human nations. That is to say all human nations on their side of the mountain range that separate kingdom's of mankind and Fremmevira (the guard dogs, as some characters from Zaloudek refer to them for their role of protecting kingdoms of menkind from demon beasts). You can say that Zaloudek royal family have almost brainwashed themselves into believing to be the rightful rulers of the human nations.



Their new model, Tyrant is pretty much an armored up version of Tellestale prototype with some modifications of their own to resolve Tellestale biggest problem. Karrdetolle, the production version of Tellestale that Fremmevira robotic labs made, and the main combat unit that all of Silver Phoenix Knights use has a 30% reduced performance. The reduction in performance is due to (robotic lab being an incompetent organisation) Tellestale problem with mana consumption.
EDIT: We will never really hear much about the missing 30% of performance. But in the initial fight against the Swordman, Dietrich remarked how he was beginning to run out of mana while their opponent seemed to be just fine. This puzzled Dietrich as the Tyrant, with it's heavy armor, should be the first one to run out of mana first.

Ikaruga is a machine in a completely different league compared to everyone else. It is so complex, that only Eru can operate it. It is also the only machine in Silver Phoenix Order that can take flight by using magius jet thrusters. The thrusters use an powered up version of fireball and theory behind jet engines to produce thrust. Using jet thrusters produces a lot of noise and engulfs nearly the entire machine in flames.

As result, when a Tyrant seen an SK on fire, charging them at high speed, producing loud noise. An SK with a face for a head instead of a helmet.
Even the mighty Tyrants who have dominated every battlefield they've fought on, the pinnacle of Zaloudek kingdom's SK research. The machine so heavily armored it could easily shrug off Kuschpercha Resvants magic attacks. When they see their comrades in their Tyrants being cut down left and right, being burned to a crisp by a single SK engulfed in flames, roaring like a thunder god with a menacing expression for a face. They start shitting bricks and refer to that particular SK as a demon god.

Master_Geass said:

I do wonder how the other countries have have ether reactors. From what we learned about them, only the people of Alfheim can mold mithril and build the reactors. Granted Ernesti found a way around that. Still it's a pretty closely guarded secret. So either Fremmevilla or Alfheim sells the reactors to other kingdoms, there are other villages of those people hidden somewhere, or they have some way of building knock offs. If the first, then it would be a bad idea to attack the kingdom that sells you the heart of your biggest weapon, as you would then be cut off.

ZingFreelancer said:

There seem to be elfish villages all over the place, not just in Fremmevilla. Based on descriptions from LN, I am 95% certain that the guy who invented flying ship is an elf. We'll probably see him in episode 10.

Master_Geass said:

I had a feeling there were more of them somewhere. The balance of the world would be too uneven if they had to rely on one kingdom for reactors. I do wonder if every kingdom has to host a village if they are to maintain their SK. Granted the federation could all share a village, as it seems they are quite small.

JCvetich said:
The pacing of this show is one of the most atrocious that I've ever seen.

Over half the season is about Ernesti building mechs and then all of the sudden.... WAR!

With a country we've never heard about! With characters we've never seen! Attacking a city we know nothing about! Kidnapping a princess who literally means nothing because... who is she?

Huex3 said:


What do you mean? They've been hinting about the other countries since episode 1. The war against the west has been hinted ever since their prototype mech got stolen. Also, although they've never explained it but you can infer that Zaloudek and Kuschpercha are the two big countries that keep the power balance in the regions in the west or the occidents whatever you wanna call them.

JCvetich said:
I mean, maybe I just missed it... but I had never heard the names of those countries before in the show. Also, there was one or maybe two brief conversations about unrest in the area, but nothing of the scale that was shown in this episode.

I mean, to be honest, I thought maybe I had missed an episode before I checked to make sure I'd watched last week's. This episode, seemingly, just came out of nowhere in regards to story, characters, everything.

katsu044 said:
wonder where the hell they got all that ether to mass produce 1000s of mech's up till now it seemed like it was pretty hard to make a couple