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Poll: Owarimonogatari 2nd Season Episode 6 Discussion

Aug 13, 2017 4:41 AM

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I really like the style of art they used for the Ougi Dark arc. The black and white coloring brings a more eerie feel to the story.

Episode featured a lot of Ougi and the character's identity (imo, one of the biggest mysteries in this series). Really good amount of psychology in this episode as well.
Aug 13, 2017 7:39 AM
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So we find out that the only way of defeating Ougi is by revealing her true name to her, and this jib has been assigned to Araragi. Once her identity is revealed, she will be an apparition faking her identity, causing "darkness" to consume her. Ougi in this episode felt really shady, especially when she was talking to Tsukihi. That being said, Ougi's always interesting whenever she's in the series. And we finally get to find out that Araragi unconciously created Ougi, and that Ougi's true identity is Araragi Koyomi himself. Araragi's had always felt guilty and always had some sort of inferiority complex to him, which created Ougi. I guess it's similar to how Hanekawa created a Neko-self when she built up stress. Since Araragi can't criticize himself, he unintentionally created a being that can criticize for him. Wow, this episode was really good and answered all remaining questions.

Aug 13, 2017 8:35 AM

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The plan is revealed and how to defeat Ougi is laid out.

Despite knowing how it's going to end, just hearing Araragi finally say those words was awesome to hear. The setting, soundtrack and stare down made it so much better than reading it.

On a side note, I'm really happy that Sengoku is healthy and pursuing her dreams. It makes me even happier that she's not even afraid to let Tsukihi know what her secret is. Sengoku's hair is so short now! She looked really grown up.

Aug 13, 2017 9:01 AM
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After so many seasons we finally learn Ougi's identity and she is pretty much exactly what i thought she would be. Only after we learned that she is not the darkness, that is. I am really happy they involved Tsukihi as well, considering they are both apparitions and very close to Araragi. I really wish there were more conversations between the two in previous seasons as well, but i guess it would have been too much of a dead giveaway of Ougi's identity.

Nice to see Nadeko again. She is now open about her passion with manga and she changed the way she calls Araragi to signify her escape from his harem. It's Koyomi-san from now on. More changes in the way the characters address each other this season.
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Aug 13, 2017 10:03 AM

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I really like the talk between Tsukihi and Ougi. So many reference to her oddity.

As suspected Oıgi is not the darkness but Araragi himself. Ahe only knows what he knows at the end. Another great episode.

Aug 13, 2017 11:26 AM

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i didn't understand the part when araragi was talking with gaen so can anyone explain it to me in a simpler way and who araragi connected with and all that stuff?
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Aug 13, 2017 11:47 AM

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Ougi and Tsukihi's conversation was so good.
Loved her "I'm good at living" reply
Aug 13, 2017 12:10 PM

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The revelation of how to defeat Ougi and her true identity were so exiting.
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Aug 13, 2017 3:01 PM

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Oh, it was nice to see Nadeko again. While her new hairstyle is debatable, it was nice to see how much she matured and finally got to redeem herself.

The dialogue between Ougi and Tsukihi was so great. Tsukihi sure is tough. Even Ougi couldn't mess around with her. Also riding the bike like a boss!

OMG the music in this whole episode was absolutely glorious! And the big reveal we've all been waiting for at the end... amazing episode.
Aug 13, 2017 4:47 PM
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This was great. The group still go into more specifics of Ougi and why she's an apparition. I liked seeing Nadeko and Tsukihi hang out together. Also Nadeko's newish look suits her imo.

Also was pretty damn scared when Ougi showed up right as Tsukihi was leaving. Kinda made it seems like she was about to do something to her but I'm glad Ougi didn't. Then, Araragi finally confronts Ougi in the old abandoned cram school where he finally states what he knew all along: that Ougi is him.

SHAFT did a great job at building the tension up for this episode, especially with all the dark color pallets for the most part.
Aug 13, 2017 6:59 PM

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Wow, I wasn't expecting that ending.
Was hoping there would finally be some action
Aug 14, 2017 2:01 AM

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I seriously thought Ougi is goner, didn't really think Araragi will do that.
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Aug 24, 2017 7:12 PM

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The soundtrack during revelation was bloody amazing, I got chills again!

Too bad literally yesterday I got spoiled on it T_T Nevertheless, amazing scene. Rewatching previous seasons will be so fun, I'm already excited for it.
Aug 28, 2017 10:56 AM

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Not even Nadeko could escape from NisiOisiN's short hair fetish.
Oct 17, 2017 8:59 AM

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I loved it when Ougi can't beat Tsukihi in that talk though. it's like Ougi expecting Tsukihi to answer the other way around but couldn't make her do it.
Oct 21, 2017 12:46 PM

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Another great episode, really looking forwards to see what the last episode has to offer from this season!
Nov 3, 2017 8:19 AM

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it was a surprise, Ougi is the Araragi darkness!!!

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Jan 7, 2018 11:18 PM

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Another one of those huge info dumps that the Monogatari series is famous for. Ougi's identity finally revealed!
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Feb 11, 2018 6:57 PM
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Oh my god, I understand it all, I know Ougi's conversation w Tsukihi is kinda deep.
But this is boring as hell. Planning on finishing off 3 eps but can't watch on without sleeping in between
Feb 16, 2018 12:41 PM

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Seems like Ougi couldn't outplay Tsukihi there, which kinda makes sense given what Koyomi said in the end. He can't outwit his sisters either ^^
Oct 10, 2018 2:37 AM

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Wow, this mystery of Ougi's identity was revealed in such a well-made way that it made me like SHAFT so much more. The dialogue between Ougi and Tsukihi was very good...

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Apr 9, 2019 9:05 AM

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Ougi couldn't even beat Tsukihi ... the Araragi family truly is a frightening family indeed!
Ougi's true indentity is ... Araragi's darkness!
Kinda like Hanekawa's cat side, Araragi managed to make a "person" that can criticize him.
Guess it's not weird since we found out how Araragi was recently, back in the day before he became a vampire and met Shinobu.
Jun 2, 2019 10:22 PM

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So much for the war expectation they decided to let Araragi resolve it by himself, well they had a pretty good reason, so no problem.

Also Gaen talk about Shinobu's motivation for this extermination turns out to be pointless. Since in the end only Araragi will be the one to do it.
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Nov 15, 2019 8:45 AM

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Tsukihi is as cute as always, Nadeko(damn that author with the short hair fetish!!), well, I'm just glad that she's fine. Ougi and Tsukihi's conversation were quite insightful. Looks like Ougi's secret or true identity is finally revealed, never would've thought of that in this way, sasuga.

Time for the finale then.
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Sep 20, 10:17 PM

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Ok now the so Ougi is just Araragi? Now that's very shocking I really wanna know what will happen next the fact that Ougi's identity was mysterious is now finally solved? O really wanna know more.
Oct 5, 11:42 PM

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Damn I feel like the reveal might of hit harder if I wasn’t already spoiled by literal fan art of Ougi and Araragi and someone commented selfcest so it instantly clicked they were related some now and all the clues made it obvious from her first appearance. Either way though this arc is still amazing.
Nov 11, 4:00 PM

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Well damn, so Ougi's an apparition created from Koyomi. Who would've thought.

Looking forward to seeing how this arc will end.


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