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Aug 14, 2017 2:49 PM
#1301
Ruu said: RE1031 said: @Suzune-chan I expect posts regarding me being on the majority side of every battle and the posts that made you think coro's reads are sound. (Because right now, I can think of several counter examples - if I was part of the majority who didn't want Ruu lynched, why was she in the mix? And why was yurkin in the mix? And why wasn't Coro lynched? Logic had three people scum reading him, I recall being the only one townreading him. For starters.) I'm honestly more frustrated that my townreads were the ones that ended up dead, than anything. It's going to be difficult to move on from here, since I most likely will have to compromise lynch. how do you guys feel about whisper? Not my first choice, but wouldn't miss him. I'd like him to take stronger stances. Also, I'm going to give him a little benefit of the doubt because this would be the third/fourth game in a row he is scum, if he is scum this game. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 2:50 PM
#1302
Ruu said: If you push him, he'll panic and it will be easier to tell. But you have to make a case that looks good, easier way I have ever found to judge him. But honestly, I kind of don't feel scum from him this game.RE1031 said: @Suzune-chan I expect posts regarding me being on the majority side of every battle and the posts that made you think coro's reads are sound. (Because right now, I can think of several counter examples - if I was part of the majority who didn't want Ruu lynched, why was she in the mix? And why was yurkin in the mix? And why wasn't Coro lynched? Logic had three people scum reading him, I recall being the only one townreading him. For starters.) I'm honestly more frustrated that my townreads were the ones that ended up dead, than anything. It's going to be difficult to move on from here, since I most likely will have to compromise lynch. how do you guys feel about whisper? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 14, 2017 2:52 PM
#1303
Suzune-chan said: @Re1031, since you would not look up the posts I you wanted even after I told them where you are, you make me do so much work. I mean, I could even tell you where to look and you just blew me off. So the fact that I am always getting things for so, is honestly kind of annoying. You actually hit on my opportunistic thing here, but spun it in a different direction by going another way then I was here Here. Was going for you were also in on what was going on, while you decided this post was about your reads. The that made me smile at it opportunistic too: Here As you attempted to turn my read about Coro around on top of me by putting me in a situation where it was all or nothing as a kind of, how can you agree with Coro when she is scum reading you. As though those two things are mutually inclusive. You were also the one who did not want catch up posts, because I commented about needing new information, but you constantly ragged on people like here Of all the weird posts this one still stands out to me Here I'll get back to you on this in about 6 hours. Mobile redirects me to the page but not the post, unfortunately. But explain to me the majority battle thing, too. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 2:54 PM
#1304
RE1031 said: The bell ringing thing is only accurate up to 18 seconds, I was looking for your entry into the conversation with Logic and Coro but I couldn't find it fast enough and I did not want to delay the post anymore. But you are always in all the big agreements and similar to your rolling post to me after I backed Coro they all read like that. Suzune-chan said: @Re1031, since you would not look up the posts I you wanted even after I told them where you are, you make me do so much work. I mean, I could even tell you where to look and you just blew me off. So the fact that I am always getting things for so, is honestly kind of annoying. You actually hit on my opportunistic thing here, but spun it in a different direction by going another way then I was here Here. Was going for you were also in on what was going on, while you decided this post was about your reads. The that made me smile at it opportunistic too: Here As you attempted to turn my read about Coro around on top of me by putting me in a situation where it was all or nothing as a kind of, how can you agree with Coro when she is scum reading you. As though those two things are mutually inclusive. You were also the one who did not want catch up posts, because I commented about needing new information, but you constantly ragged on people like here Of all the weird posts this one still stands out to me Here I'll get back to you on this in about 6 hours. Mobile redirects me to the page but not the post, unfortunately. But explain to me the majority battle thing, too. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 14, 2017 2:57 PM
#1305
Also... Making you do work? I'm not going to be searching for posts that apparently incrimate me. I know my alignment, I'm asking you to do this so I can judge whether your case comes from town or scum. Do you think I'm mafia or SK btw? Their play styles are pretty different, I think, so maybe you have a guess? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 3:00 PM
#1306
Suzune-chan said: RE1031 said: The bell ringing thing is only accurate up to 18 seconds, I was looking for your entry into the conversation with Logic and Coro but I couldn't find it fast enough and I did not want to delay the post anymore. But you are always in all the big agreements and similar to your rolling post to me after I backed Coro they all read like that. Suzune-chan said: @Re1031, since you would not look up the posts I you wanted even after I told them where you are, you make me do so much work. I mean, I could even tell you where to look and you just blew me off. So the fact that I am always getting things for so, is honestly kind of annoying. You actually hit on my opportunistic thing here, but spun it in a different direction by going another way then I was here Here. Was going for you were also in on what was going on, while you decided this post was about your reads. The that made me smile at it opportunistic too: Here As you attempted to turn my read about Coro around on top of me by putting me in a situation where it was all or nothing as a kind of, how can you agree with Coro when she is scum reading you. As though those two things are mutually inclusive. You were also the one who did not want catch up posts, because I commented about needing new information, but you constantly ragged on people like here Of all the weird posts this one still stands out to me Here I'll get back to you on this in about 6 hours. Mobile redirects me to the page but not the post, unfortunately. But explain to me the majority battle thing, too. I don't understand, sorry. What rolling post? What big agreements? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 3:02 PM
#1307
RE1031 said: You seem to make your posts as "either/or" for example you can not like their arrangement and choose not to vote them but you act like the actions must be mutually inclusive. Suzune-chan said: RE1031 said: Suzune-chan said: @Re1031, since you would not look up the posts I you wanted even after I told them where you are, you make me do so much work. I mean, I could even tell you where to look and you just blew me off. So the fact that I am always getting things for so, is honestly kind of annoying. You actually hit on my opportunistic thing here, but spun it in a different direction by going another way then I was here Here. Was going for you were also in on what was going on, while you decided this post was about your reads. The that made me smile at it opportunistic too: Here As you attempted to turn my read about Coro around on top of me by putting me in a situation where it was all or nothing as a kind of, how can you agree with Coro when she is scum reading you. As though those two things are mutually inclusive. You were also the one who did not want catch up posts, because I commented about needing new information, but you constantly ragged on people like here Of all the weird posts this one still stands out to me Here I'll get back to you on this in about 6 hours. Mobile redirects me to the page but not the post, unfortunately. But explain to me the majority battle thing, too. I don't understand, sorry. What rolling post? What big agreements? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 14, 2017 3:05 PM
#1308
RE1031 said: I mean the only reason u would think its imcriminatiing is if you already know what the post is, and are having seconds thoughts? Like how I see it, is that your eagerness to find it def would give me more of town lean on you.Also... Making you do work? I'm not going to be searching for posts that apparently incrimate me. I know my alignment, I'm asking you to do this so I can judge whether your case comes from town or scum. Do you think I'm mafia or SK btw? Their play styles are pretty different, I think, so maybe you have a guess? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 14, 2017 3:07 PM
#1309
RE1031 said: Yeah I will tell you that your play on page four is suspect. But you are like go dig it up and I will look at it, when that is the play I summarized in my post. You will say, I'm not going to go read it, if you want it as evidence go get it. But I will have already summarized it and tell you where to read the full text. So I get very frustrated by it. Also... Making you do work? I'm not going to be searching for posts that apparently incrimate me. I know my alignment, I'm asking you to do this so I can judge whether your case comes from town or scum. Do you think I'm mafia or SK btw? Their play styles are pretty different, I think, so maybe you have a guess? Edit; A basically you like I lie in my summarizing and make me run back to prove it. |
Suzune-chanAug 14, 2017 3:12 PM
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 14, 2017 3:46 PM
#1310
#1186 Dont want to be that guy that posts something that seems like a soft claim? But take a look at this. Logic was the only person to answer this post. Seems like one help of a slip to me. Edit: @aa-dono @suzune-chan @re1031 |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 14, 2017 4:14 PM
#1311
lastwhisper31 said: I don't really see how it's a claim?#1186 Dont want to be that guy that posts something that seems like a soft claim? But take a look at this. Logic was the only person to answer this post. Seems like one help of a slip to me. Edit: @aa-dono @suzune-chan @re1031 My focus will prob be on twilight this phase. I don't see why people extend to twilight but not lynch anyone. @yurkin what do you think of those abstaining from vote? Sidenote: I said I'll catch up but unfortunately I haven't. So I'm gonna read from both ends now. Back and current. |
Aug 14, 2017 4:26 PM
#1312
logic340 said: bleh death.... good luck town... Don't post when you are dead. |
Aug 14, 2017 8:29 PM
#1313
I was going to explain that rules are more lenient here, and then I realized you broke the rule yourself. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 8:37 PM
#1314
lastwhisper31 said: #1186 Dont want to be that guy that posts something that seems like a soft claim? But take a look at this. Logic was the only person to answer this post. Seems like one help of a slip to me. Edit: @aa-dono @suzune-chan @re1031 There was a post logic made, I'll dig it up if need be, but logic said something along the lines of "you should have seen my face when I read this post" in response to me saying I'd be willing to lynch him. I took that as a minor tell he may have been a PR - like the very notion of him being lynched was ridiculous, and that is pretty much only the case with PRs. That said, logic was killed most likely because he was one of the more active players. I want to say roz was killed because of his reads. Abu/Rinto-kun is not off the hook. Oh, and the post you linked I saw as yurkin had temporarily possessed logic. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 8:43 PM
#1315
Actually, I meant those that chose no lynch. |
Aug 14, 2017 8:45 PM
#1316
lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok maybe not town blocks, but like strong town reads, like idk, Ive just been played to much lately, and with a SK and Mafia, its just even more scary.lastwhisper31 said: This is definitely not the game to be locking people into town blocks, and its actually kind of infuriating that people are doing this so early. Honestly, I would lynch you just off of this post. I didn't pay much attention to it earlier, but you are basically admitting to not wanting to clear anybody. Which is really, really, really scummy. Why are you discouraging people from making townreads? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 8:59 PM
#1317
RE1031 said: Normally yes, but ive had such bad experiences with town reads now, im not saying to not have ur own set of town reads, or state them if need be, but expecially with logic sometimes you guys just say so much unnecessary info, and it throws off the game. My last game, nah you know what I don't even want to talk about my last game just yet since its still on going, but it just made me so sad... I listened to a town read i shouldnt have, and mafia slipped right be melastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: Who made early town blocks? I have not seen anyone say this is my town block.This is definitely not the game to be locking people into town blocks, and its actually kind of infuriating that people are doing this so early. Honestly, I would lynch you just off of this post. I didn't pay much attention to it earlier, but you are basically admitting to not wanting to clear anybody. Which is really, really, really scummy. Why are you discouraging people from making townreads? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 14, 2017 9:01 PM
#1318
Suzune-chan said: @Re1031, since you would not look up the posts I you wanted even after I told them where you are, you make me do so much work. I mean, I could even tell you where to look and you just blew me off. So the fact that I am always getting things for so, is honestly kind of annoying. You actually hit on my opportunistic thing here, but spun it in a different direction by going another way then I was here Here. Was going for you were also in on what was going on, while you decided this post was about your reads. The that made me smile at it opportunistic too: Here As you attempted to turn my read about Coro around on top of me by putting me in a situation where it was all or nothing as a kind of, how can you agree with Coro when she is scum reading you. As though those two things are mutually inclusive. You were also the one who did not want catch up posts, because I commented about needing new information, but you constantly ragged on people like here Of all the weird posts this one still stands out to me Here I'll quote them for easier access: RE1031 said: coromandel said: Suzune-chan said: Okay, I am going to be frank and I know it is kind of an unpopular opinion with the people who are on but, isn't RE being kind of advantageous, (not the word I want but I can't think of it, one who moves to where the advantage is all the time). You play right on the edge so that you can be aggressive in all posts. But on to the actual subject I want to talk about, I think that Coro is town. They have strong reasoning and bring a fresh perspective. I am not really willing to vote Coro. I know that Logic is all fired up about this, but their posts are organized and make clear sense from where they are coming from. Honestly, if I lynch Yurkin it will be because there is so little to go by, which seems like such a waste. Opportunistic, you mean. I'm not sure about that, but his reads seem off to me. They're not very well thought out. They never are, according to others. It's because my gut reads are more accurate than straightforward reads, and gut is kinda hard to explain. But hey, apparently you only had a problem with 4 out 13 of them. And for some reason, they all happened to be my town reads. INTERESTING. First, I'm going to play the "they did it too" game. How do you feel about coro zeroing in on me based on including my name as part of town? Next, I'll freely explain what I meant by "interesting," because rather than asking me about it, you decide to use it against me. Scum generally don't want to question other people's scum reads. Why? Because there's mislynch written all over them. Questioning town reads on the other hand creates doubt and mistrust, which is how town ends up losing. So yes, it's interesting that coro decided to pick on only my town reads and not my neutral/scum reads. Suzune-chan said: RE1031 said: This post, I actually read yesterday and I laughed. Yes of course I think she should be suspecting me. Really Re, really. I already have explained my voting on Ruu to her. If she does not agree then there is nothing more I can say to that front. But I find the rest of the arguments to be agreeable. Suzune-chan said: Okay, I am going to be frank and I know it is kind of an unpopular opinion with the people who are on but, isn't RE being kind of advantageous, (not the word I want but I can't think of it, one who moves to where the advantage is all the time). You play right on the edge so that you can be aggressive in all posts. But on to the actual subject I want to talk about, I think that Coro is town. They have strong reasoning and bring a fresh perspective. I am not really willing to vote Coro. I know that Logic is all fired up about this, but their posts are organized and make clear sense from where they are coming from. Honestly, if I lynch Yurkin it will be because there is so little to go by, which seems like such a waste. I'll try to be less aggressive, it clearly isn't working when trying to get my point across. That said, I have no idea what you mean and you are going to have to give examples. Last time I checked, coro was suspecting you. Are you saying that her reasoning for doing so is strong and makes sense? Now that logic's flipped town, I hope you no longer think so. Also, I like finding contradictions. Kinda like how I prodded roz, despite having a town read on him, when he said early in the twilight that Togs should be vigged, yet nearing the end of the night, his list of 4 people he'd lynch don't include Togs. RE1031 said: If you are going to vote for me, do it now. I think the reason nobody is listening to me is they think I'm scum, and if all of you suddenly switch to me on phase change, it will end badly. Something I said out of frustration. But how is it weird? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:04 PM
#1319
@Suzune-chan You've made a lot of accusations against me. 1. Opportunistic 2. Throwing oil on fire 3. Siding with majority during battles Yet you've yet to post a valid example of the first, and the second and third I haven't seen any reason why you believe this. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:06 PM
#1320
lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Normally yes, but ive had such bad experiences with town reads now, im not saying to not have ur own set of town reads, or state them if need be, but expecially with logic sometimes you guys just say so much unnecessary info, and it throws off the game. My last game, nah you know what I don't even want to talk about my last game just yet since its still on going, but it just made me so sad... I listened to a town read i shouldnt have, and mafia slipped right be melastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok maybe not town blocks, but like strong town reads, like idk, Ive just been played to much lately, and with a SK and Mafia, its just even more scary.lastwhisper31 said: Who made early town blocks? I have not seen anyone say this is my town block.This is definitely not the game to be locking people into town blocks, and its actually kind of infuriating that people are doing this so early. Honestly, I would lynch you just off of this post. I didn't pay much attention to it earlier, but you are basically admitting to not wanting to clear anybody. Which is really, really, really scummy. Why are you discouraging people from making townreads? How do you suggest we proceed then? edit: deleted double quote... |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:06 PM
#1321
From newer posts alone, RE1031 felt like town. Was she anywhere a lynch target Day 1? |
Aug 14, 2017 9:06 PM
#1322
like you just answered my thoughts in ur next post... Questioning town reads on the other hand creates doubt and mistrust, which is how town ends up losing. So yes, it's interesting that coro decided to pick on only my town reads and not my neutral/scum reads. @re1031 |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 14, 2017 9:08 PM
#1323
RE1031 said: Scum reads my friend, you dont need to town read everyone you dont see as scum, and im especially weary because theres an SK, and technically SK wants to find mafia also.lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok maybe not town blocks, but like strong town reads, like idk, Ive just been played to much lately, and with a SK and Mafia, its just even more scary.lastwhisper31 said: Who made early town blocks? I have not seen anyone say this is my town block.This is definitely not the game to be locking people into town blocks, and its actually kind of infuriating that people are doing this so early. Honestly, I would lynch you just off of this post. I didn't pay much attention to it earlier, but you are basically admitting to not wanting to clear anybody. Which is really, really, really scummy. Why are you discouraging people from making townreads? lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok maybe not town blocks, but like strong town reads, like idk, Ive just been played to much lately, and with a SK and Mafia, its just even more scary.lastwhisper31 said: Who made early town blocks? I have not seen anyone say this is my town block.This is definitely not the game to be locking people into town blocks, and its actually kind of infuriating that people are doing this so early. Honestly, I would lynch you just off of this post. I didn't pay much attention to it earlier, but you are basically admitting to not wanting to clear anybody. Which is really, really, really scummy. Why are you discouraging people from making townreads? How do you suggest we proceed then? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 14, 2017 9:13 PM
#1324
lastwhisper31 said: like you just answered my thoughts in ur next post... Questioning town reads on the other hand creates doubt and mistrust, which is how town ends up losing. So yes, it's interesting that coro decided to pick on only my town reads and not my neutral/scum reads. @re1031I think you misunderstood what I wrote... Here's it simplified: 1. Town makes a town read on another town player. 2. Scum questions that town read. 3. Town starts doubting that town player and may refuse to cooperate with them, which is a necessity for town to do. What I'm getting at is you think that doubting town reads is a good thing. With fair reasoning, sure, it can be helpful for catching difficult scum, and you shouldn't back down from your read. But from what I'm understanding, you think it's a good thing solely because townblocking scum is detrimental. The problem with this is it is not always the case, and once you start doubting your town reads (the accurate ones, at least), scum have won. They can push mislynches on them. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:17 PM
#1325
lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Scum reads my friend, you dont need to town read everyone you dont see as scum, and im especially weary because theres an SK, and technically SK wants to find mafia also.lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Normally yes, but ive had such bad experiences with town reads now, im not saying to not have ur own set of town reads, or state them if need be, but expecially with logic sometimes you guys just say so much unnecessary info, and it throws off the game. My last game, nah you know what I don't even want to talk about my last game just yet since its still on going, but it just made me so sad... I listened to a town read i shouldnt have, and mafia slipped right be melastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok maybe not town blocks, but like strong town reads, like idk, Ive just been played to much lately, and with a SK and Mafia, its just even more scary.lastwhisper31 said: Who made early town blocks? I have not seen anyone say this is my town block.This is definitely not the game to be locking people into town blocks, and its actually kind of infuriating that people are doing this so early. Honestly, I would lynch you just off of this post. I didn't pay much attention to it earlier, but you are basically admitting to not wanting to clear anybody. Which is really, really, really scummy. Why are you discouraging people from making townreads? lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Normally yes, but ive had such bad experiences with town reads now, im not saying to not have ur own set of town reads, or state them if need be, but expecially with logic sometimes you guys just say so much unnecessary info, and it throws off the game. My last game, nah you know what I don't even want to talk about my last game just yet since its still on going, but it just made me so sad... I listened to a town read i shouldnt have, and mafia slipped right be melastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok maybe not town blocks, but like strong town reads, like idk, Ive just been played to much lately, and with a SK and Mafia, its just even more scary.lastwhisper31 said: Who made early town blocks? I have not seen anyone say this is my town block.This is definitely not the game to be locking people into town blocks, and its actually kind of infuriating that people are doing this so early. Honestly, I would lynch you just off of this post. I didn't pay much attention to it earlier, but you are basically admitting to not wanting to clear anybody. Which is really, really, really scummy. Why are you discouraging people from making townreads? How do you suggest we proceed then? That's how I usually play. Also, I definitely didn't do that lol. I used PoV, and I only ended up clearing 3 people (you were included temporarily), and then the other two were killed. Which is depressing. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:20 PM
#1326
aa-dono said: From newer posts alone, RE1031 felt like town. Was she anywhere a lynch target Day 1? I think around 5 people were for suspecting me, but no one decided to vote for me. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:22 PM
#1327
Suzune-chan said: RE1031 said: You seem to make your posts as "either/or" for example you can not like their arrangement and choose not to vote them but you act like the actions must be mutually inclusive. Suzune-chan said: RE1031 said: The bell ringing thing is only accurate up to 18 seconds, I was looking for your entry into the conversation with Logic and Coro but I couldn't find it fast enough and I did not want to delay the post anymore. But you are always in all the big agreements and similar to your rolling post to me after I backed Coro they all read like that. Suzune-chan said: @Re1031, since you would not look up the posts I you wanted even after I told them where you are, you make me do so much work. I mean, I could even tell you where to look and you just blew me off. So the fact that I am always getting things for so, is honestly kind of annoying. You actually hit on my opportunistic thing here, but spun it in a different direction by going another way then I was here Here. Was going for you were also in on what was going on, while you decided this post was about your reads. The that made me smile at it opportunistic too: Here As you attempted to turn my read about Coro around on top of me by putting me in a situation where it was all or nothing as a kind of, how can you agree with Coro when she is scum reading you. As though those two things are mutually inclusive. You were also the one who did not want catch up posts, because I commented about needing new information, but you constantly ragged on people like here Of all the weird posts this one still stands out to me Here I'll get back to you on this in about 6 hours. Mobile redirects me to the page but not the post, unfortunately. But explain to me the majority battle thing, too. I don't understand, sorry. What rolling post? What big agreements? Sorry, this went over my head. I have no idea what you're trying to say. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:27 PM
#1328
RE1031 said: Funny how this just happened in a previous game, and the person who used this tactic was scum, I backed off because I started town reading them for their actions, and then boom, talks about how his train was so huge and why no ones voting for him again. My gut told me that he was scum, but I didn't follow it. aa-dono said: From newer posts alone, RE1031 felt like town. Was she anywhere a lynch target Day 1? I think around 5 people were for suspecting me, but no one decided to vote for me. vote RE1031 |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 14, 2017 9:27 PM
#1329
People I would like to lynch today: coro Abu Rinto-kun Suzune Togs I'd be good with any of them. edit: @Rinto-kun , where are you, I forgot you were here... |
REAug 14, 2017 9:33 PM
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Aug 14, 2017 9:30 PM
#1330
lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Funny how this just happened in a previous game, and the person who used this tactic was scum, I backed off because I started town reading them for their actions, and then boom, talks about how his train was so huge and why no ones voting for him again. My gut told me that he was scum, but I didn't follow it. aa-dono said: From newer posts alone, RE1031 felt like town. Was she anywhere a lynch target Day 1? I think around 5 people were for suspecting me, but no one decided to vote for me. vote RE1031 Sigh, I am angry but there's honestly no point. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:41 PM
#1331
And the only actives left are me, whisper, and scum. A long sigh. @coromandel You are avoiding making a reads list. Please do so? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:51 PM
#1332
logic340 said: I am down to go into twilight if anyone wants to gladiator duel me? Welp, found the PR tell post... |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 10:07 PM
#1333
coromandel said: RE1031 said: lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: thats not fair tho, ruu acted scummy almost all of day 1, and her only claim of innocence was a soft claim that apparently your the only one that noticed. I understand if you knew earlier you wouldnt want to out her being the power role, but not every one saw what you did, so does that make us all scum?lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: But But, nothing is a dead horse in mafia... everything is a talking point, why you like to tell people there thoughts mean nothing so much :(.coromandel said: No, that's not what I'm talking about. I think it was at the beginning or middle of day 1 when RE complained to Suzune that he finds it annoying when people who haven't caught up yet post their thoughts on things that have already been resolved/explained. This doesn't make much sense to me, because they're still posting their thoughts on the things that have happened, so it seemed like he doesn't find catch up posts from other players very valuable. When as town, you'd want to know exactly how people perceive things, how they react to important events of the game. I thought it was odd that he only seemed annoyed at their posts. I'll explain again: >lastwhisper was beating a dead horse. Ruu's behavior made me think she was town, but I also had a suspicion that she was roleblocker based on how she was worried town roleblocker would target the vigilante. The first time he questioned her, it was about a discussion between me and her and had been resolved. The second time, it was about her soft claim, or more accurately, accusing her of being SK, when I had already stated her role in the thread >Labs just annoyed me because that was the second (or third?) time someone had responded to that quote when I had already explained I was referring to a specific group of people. My reasoning for being annoyed is selfish, no doubt. But when someone you think is town, who you also think is a PR, ends up nearly being lynched, gets locked into a showdown, and is forced (well, coerced) to claim, then you get annoyed when your read on them was accurate and yet couldn't do anything to stop it. No (there are other things that do...), but I have complaining rights. @coromandel I think you've been asked this already, but why didn't you vote in self defense? I don't think a vote on Suzune because you think she is scum is adequate enough of an answer. Were there nobody else with 2 vote trains that you didn't have an inkling of a suspicion of? And you said that you believed Ruu to be town. I'm not blaming you for this part, but did you consider building a countertrain to save her? Partly because I wanted to be lynched. I didn't want to continue playing this game tbh. I even considered voting for myself, but that's not allowed. ("play to your win condition") I didn't have a good case against anyone at that time. I didn't even fully scum-read logic, part of me was thinking he was stubborn town - which I've changed my mind about this phase. The only people who had more than 1 vote were ruu, yurkin and roz and I didn't scum-read any of them. Aa-dono had 1 vote but she said she didn't have a good internet connection. I had no read on her and she wasn't there to defend herself. The question whose answer will confirm whether coro is scum or not is if the emotion in this post is genuine or faked. Right now, I'm leaning towards faked. But, fine, I'll make do with others. Let's see if this actually goes somewhere: vote: @Rinto-kun You say to treat you as a new player but I cannot do that if you are not here. Abu's reaction to roz's bait was scummy. He put out the possibility that roz was new town, which is an unnatural conclusion to make unless he has insider knowledge that roz cannot be mafia. Then, after being MIA, he vote snipes. As if being coached by someone in a private chat. Give me good reasons why you should not be lynched. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 14, 2017 11:17 PM
#1334
Vote Count 2.2: RE1031 (2): Suzune-chan, lastwhisper31 Rinto-kun (1): RE1031 lastwhisper31 (1): Ruu Players not voting: (aa-dono, Togs, AbuHumaid, yurkin, Labs, Nikamara, coromandel) |
Aug 14, 2017 11:37 PM
#1335
16 pages and seeing that it seems like some people still aren't really budging.... I get the feeling this is guna be a drag. |
Aug 14, 2017 11:42 PM
#1336
Skimmed results of D1/N1. Without reading, I have no idea why so many opted for a no lynch given the set-up and role distribution it would only hurt. Unless of-course there was more than enough to clear both potential targets. The deaths following that are of little to no surprise though. Logic has a habit of forcing too much of a presence. roz on the other hand was fairly stacked.... an unknown, experienced, bait that dragged much attention but gave massive town reads imo, their threat was undeniable. |
Aug 14, 2017 11:53 PM
#1337
aa-dono said: I am having connection issues. I'll try to backread now~ hopefully I can be here for phase change. Just in case, Unvote Right.... you exist? Avoidance? |
Aug 14, 2017 11:54 PM
#1338
logic340 said: before I get to back reading a quick read list off memory. town Lean: Suzune-chan, roz1roz (possible SK), Ruu (ever so slightly) Neutral: Labs, Abu's slot, RE1031, lastwhisper, coromandel, Nikamara Not Enough Info: Togs, dono (interesting not they were the first two to sign up) Scum Lean: yurkin time to sort through the neutral pile. Unless this changes severely between here and D2, this should be a some-what useful bookmark. |
Aug 14, 2017 11:55 PM
#1339
I was too occupied with logic the whole time, but looking at the votes again, I want to hear more from Togs and also Rinto-kun. @Togs - why did you vote for Ruu in the end? Why didn't you vote during twilight phase? What are your thoughts so far? @Rinto-kun - Have you read everything that's happened? Thoughts? @RE1031 - you only voted for lastwhisper the whole time (D1). Did you suspect him at the end too? I don't really remember - Idk if it only started during twilight phase, need to re-read. |
Aug 14, 2017 11:55 PM
#1340
RE1031 said: vote: no lynch Reading through yurkin's posts, I don't see her as scum. Back to being annoyed. Can you explain your town-read on her? Why did you vote for no lynch at the beginning of twilight phase? |
Aug 14, 2017 11:56 PM
#1341
RE1031 said: @Labs Any strong reads? I'm on mobile so I may have missed it, but all I've seen is you plopping a vote on yurkin for pressure. yurkin said: logic #564 "how would faking ignorance get you town creds btw? Explain why you even wrote this line?" I dont mean ignorance in general, but in the concret case with roz and the reaction test he did. So ofc, if we for the sake of the argument assume roz is town, then the reaction if there is mafia among them is faked to look natural. And i see re's reaction as faked lol. But oh im you one and only scum lean lmao. Quite the active game d1, and a hyperactive logic... with scum lean on only yurk ... :/ hmm weird. Ok lynch me if you wish o/ Then vote me. My God, "faked" is so painfully subjective... Most of my thoughts at that point in time should have been loose enough to read up on :S |
Aug 14, 2017 11:57 PM
#1342
Vote: Nikamara |
Aug 14, 2017 11:58 PM
#1343
leaving this here, for later: 1. aa-dono 2. Togs 3. roz1roz - Nanaba (Vanilla Townie) 4. AbuHumaid Rinto-kun 5. yurkin 6. RE1031 7. Labs 8. Suzune-chan 9. Nikamara 10. Ruu - claims Eren / Roleblocker 11. lastwhisper31 12. coromandel 13. logic340 - Mikasa Ackerman (Doctor) D1 votes abuhumaid votes for coromandel aa-dono votes for logic340 RE1031 votes for lastwhisper suzune-chan votes for ruu Vote Count 1.0 ruu votes for logic340coromandel (1): AbuHumaid logic340 (1): aa-dono lastwhisper31 (1): RE1031 Ruu (1): Suzune-chan Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, yurkin, Labs, Nikamara, Ruu, lastwhisper31, coromandel, logic340) ruu votes for roz1roz abuhumaid votes for roz1roz coromandel votes for suzune-chan Vote Count 1.1 yurkin votes for aa-donologic340 (1): aa-dono lastwhisper31 (1): RE1031 Ruu (1): Suzune-chan roz1roz (2): Ruu, AbuHumaid Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, yurkin, Labs, Nikamara, lastwhisper31, logic340) suzune-chan votes for roz1roz Vote Count 1.2 suzune-chan votes for ruuroz1roz (3): Ruu, AbuHumaid, Suzune-chan logic340 (1): aa-dono lastwhisper31 (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel aa-dono (1): yurkin Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, Labs, Nikamara, lastwhisper31, logic340) logic340 votes for RE1031 Nikamara votes for roz1roz Vote Count 1.3 Togs votes for aa-donoroz1roz (2): AbuHumaid, Nikamara logic340 (1): aa-dono lastwhisper31 (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel aa-dono (1): yurkin Ruu (1): Suzune-chan RE1031 (1): logic340 Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, Labs, lastwhisper31, Ruu) Vote Count 1.4 roz1roz votes for abuhumaidroz1roz (2): AbuHumaid, Nikamara aa-dono (2): yurkin, Togs logic340 (1): aa-dono coromandel (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Ruu (1): Suzune-chan RE1031 (1): logic340 Players not voting: (roz1roz, Labs, lastwhisper31, Ruu) ruu votes for yurkin logic340 votes for no lynch logic340 votes for togs logic340 votes for yurkin lastwhisper31 votes for ruu labs votes for yurkin Vote Count 1.5 aa-dono unvotesyurkin (3): Ruu, logic340, Labs roz1roz (2): AbuHumaid, Nikamara aa-dono (2): yurkin, Togs Ruu (2): Suzune-chan, lastwhisper31 logic340 (1): aa-dono coromandel (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel AbuHumaid (1): roz1roz Players not voting: () Vote Count 1.6 Togs unvotesyurkin (3): Ruu, logic340, Labs roz1roz (2): AbuHumaid, Nikamara aa-dono (2): yurkin, Togs Ruu (2): Suzune-chan, lastwhisper31 coromandel (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel AbuHumaid (1): roz1roz Players not voting: (aa-dono) Vote Count 1.7 AbuHumaid unvotesyurkin (3): Ruu, logic340, Labs roz1roz (2): AbuHumaid, Nikamara aa-dono (1): yurkin Ruu (2): Suzune-chan, lastwhisper31 coromandel (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel AbuHumaid (1): roz1roz Players not voting: (aa-dono, Togs) AbuHumaid votes for roz1roz Vote Count 1.8 logic340 votes for coromandelyurkin (3): Ruu, logic340, Labs roz1roz (2): Nikamara, AbuHumaid Ruu (2): Suzune-chan, lastwhisper31 aa-dono (1): yurkin coromandel (1): RE1031 Suzune-chan (1): coromandel AbuHumaid (1): roz1roz Players not voting: (aa-dono, Togs) Vote Count 1.9 roz1roz votes for coromandelyurkin (2): Ruu, Labs roz1roz (2): Nikamara, AbuHumaid Ruu (2): Suzune-chan, lastwhisper31 coromandel (2): RE1031, logic340 aa-dono (1): yurkin Suzune-chan (1): coromandel AbuHumaid (1): roz1roz Players not voting: (aa-dono, Togs) Vote Count 1.10 lastwhisper unvotescoromandel (3): RE1031, logic340, roz1roz yurkin (2): Ruu, Labs roz1roz (2): Nikamara, AbuHumaid Ruu (2): Suzune-chan, lastwhisper31 aa-dono (1): yurkin Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Players not voting: (aa-dono, Togs) Vote Count 1.11 Togs votes for yurkincoromandel (3): RE1031, logic340, roz1roz yurkin (2): Ruu, Labs roz1roz (2): Nikamara, AbuHumaid Ruu (1): Suzune-chan aa-dono (1): yurkin Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Players not voting: (aa-dono, Togs, lastwhisper31) Vote Count 1.12 Togs votes for Ruucoromandel (3): RE1031, logic340, roz1roz yurkin (3): Ruu, Labs, Togs roz1roz (2): Nikamara, AbuHumaid Ruu (1): Suzune-chan aa-dono (1): yurkin Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Players not voting: (aa-dono, lastwhisper31) Vote Count 1.13 AbuHumaid votes for Ruucoromandel (3): RE1031, logic340, roz1roz yurkin (2): Ruu, Labs roz1roz (2): Nikamara, AbuHumaid Ruu (2): Suzune-chan, Togs aa-dono (1): yurkin Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Players not voting: (aa-dono, lastwhisper31) Vote Count 1.14 roz1roz votes for yurkincoromandel (3): RE1031, logic340, roz1roz Ruu (3): Suzune-chan, Togs, AbuHumaid yurkin (2): Ruu, Labs roz1roz (1): Nikamara aa-dono (1): yurkin Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Players not voting: (aa-dono, lastwhisper31) Final Vote Count Ruu (3): Suzune-chan, Togs, AbuHumaid yurkin (3): Ruu, Labs, roz1roz coromandel (2): RE1031, logic340 roz1roz (1): Nikamara aa-dono (1): yurkin Suzune-chan (1): coromandel Players not voting: (aa-dono, lastwhisper31) aa-dono > logic340 > unvote Togs > aa-dono > unvote > yurkin > Ruu roz1roz > AbuHumaid > coromandel > yurkin AbuHumaid > coromandel > roz1roz > unvote > roz1roz > Ruu yurkin > aa-dono RE1031 > lastwhisper Labs > yurkin Suzune-chan > Ruu > roz1roz > Ruu Nikamara > roz1roz Ruu > logic340 > roz1roz > yurkin lastwhisper > Ruu > unvotes coromandel > Suzune-chan logic340 > RE1031 > no lynch > Togs > yurkin > coromandel Twilight 1 logic340 votes for no lynch ruu votes for yurkin nikamara votes for no lynch logic340 votes for Ruu coromandel votes for yurkin Vote Count T1.1 logic340 votes for double lynchRuu (1): logic340 yurkin (2): Ruu, coromandel No lynch (1): Nikamara Double lynch (0): Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, yurkin, Labs, lastwhisper31, AbuHumaid, aa-dono, RE1031, Suzune-chan) RE1031 votes for no lynch Vote Count T1.2 logic340 votes for no lynchRuu (0): yurkin (2): Ruu, coromandel No lynch (2): Nikamara, RE1031 Double lynch (1): logic340 Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, yurkin, Labs, lastwhisper31, AbuHumaid, aa-dono, Suzune-chan) RE1031 votes for yurkin Vote Count T1.3 RE1031 votes for no lynchRuu (0): yurkin (3): Ruu, coromandel, RE1031 No lynch (2): Nikamara, logic340 Double lynch (0): Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, yurkin, Labs, lastwhisper31, AbuHumaid, aa-dono, Suzune-chan) lastwhisper votes for no lynch Vote Count T1.4 coromandel unvotesRuu (0): yurkin (2): Ruu, coromandel No lynch (4): Nikamara, logic340, RE1031, lastwhisper31 Double lynch (0): Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, yurkin, Labs, Rinto-kun, aa-dono, Suzune-chan) Vote Count T1.5 Rinto-kun votes for no lynchRuu (0): yurkin (1): Ruu No lynch (4): Nikamara, logic340, RE1031, lastwhisper31 Double lynch (0): Players not voting: (Togs, roz1roz, yurkin, Labs, Rinto-kun, aa-dono, Suzune-chan, coromandel) Suzune-chan votes for no lynch Ruu votes for no lynch roz1roz votes for yurkin Vote Count T1.6 (Final) Ruu (0): yurkin (1): roz1roz No lynch (7): Nikamara, logic340, RE1031, lastwhisper31, Rinto-kun, Suzune-chan, Ruu Double lynch (0): Players not voting: (Togs, yurkin, Labs, aa-dono, coromandel) aa-dono > Togs > roz1roz > yurkin Rinto-kun > no lynch yurkin > RE1031 > no lynch > yurkin > no lynch Labs > Suzune-chan > no lynch Nikamara > no lynch Ruu > yurkin > no lynch lastwhisper > no lynch coromandel > yurkin > unvote > logic340 > no lynch > ruu > double lynch > no lynch |
Aug 15, 2017 12:07 AM
#1344
logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: Logic never said that actually. Ruu said: lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Logic thinks ur scum because u dont like being town blocked with someone you think is suspicious, but is ok going against a vote because someone he wants to vote is being voted but someone he doesnt like, not saying thats the only reason, but its still somthing to note.logic340 said: After reading RE's latest posts i am not comfortable voting along side her. If she is voting coro today i will not be. More votes on yurkin please!! Okay I'm confused. You are willing to vote RE/coro but you don't like voting along side RE so that means you won't vote coro? So if one flips town then the other is mafia or will you consider a t/t ? Edit: refering to info from another game, so people dont think im talking out of my ass. Can you rephrased this? I seriously don't understand your point. I was trying to understand logic's reasoning and asking for some pre-flip association to get a better understanding. You should probably stop right now before you go too far. Instead of quoting a handful of shit, I'll just use this... even if logic has been dropped already. Does anyone have better insight on LW's games according to alignments and does he typically make a habit of spewing out words all over someone else's posts/actions ? |
Aug 15, 2017 12:09 AM
#1345
Ruu said: logic340 said: Ruu said: lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Logic thinks ur scum because u dont like being town blocked with someone you think is suspicious, but is ok going against a vote because someone he wants to vote is being voted but someone he doesnt like, not saying thats the only reason, but its still somthing to note.logic340 said: After reading RE's latest posts i am not comfortable voting along side her. If she is voting coro today i will not be. More votes on yurkin please!! Okay I'm confused. You are willing to vote RE/coro but you don't like voting along side RE so that means you won't vote coro? So if one flips town then the other is mafia or will you consider a t/t ? Edit: refering to info from another game, so people dont think im talking out of my ass. Can you rephrased this? I seriously don't understand your point. I was trying to understand logic's reasoning and asking for some pre-flip association to get a better understanding. I never said you were doing pre-flip association, I was asking you to do it for me. What the shit was this? |
Aug 15, 2017 12:14 AM
#1346
Suzune-chan said: I kind of wish that when Labs was finished they gave some kind of reads post or list of impressions post or perhaps just a summary because I don't really feel like they did enough to engage the audience and just kind of voted without saying anything. Would be awesome if Togs could also give a list of impressions or reads of some kind and maybe a few of the other players who came in late and missed a lot of the topic. I saw earlier that you will not vote for ruu. So despite wanting that myself, I am in a you need to compromise situation. I would probably before finishing the back read be willing to compromise on RE even though they are not my first choice. Sadly.... reading checks are very much my thing. Most of it should be apparent prior to dropping as bland a vote as possible and with nearly half the roster touched on..... it's a little odd. |
Aug 15, 2017 12:26 AM
#1347
logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: This is not helpfulunvote keeping my vote null for now. My phone is about to die, and I don't want to ruin w/e u guys have planned. Suzune wanted Ruu in the twilight phase and you unvoting makes that possibility harder now. Some wut right here. |
Aug 15, 2017 12:27 AM
#1348
Togs said: logic340 said: I mean, I wouldn't support a wagon on myself but me going into twilight >>> me dying and going into twilight >>> not making use of twilight. I would be willing to enter the chamber myself but only if the alternative is worse.Togs said: Okay I am back. I just noticed though skimming that this game has a twilight option which is GREAT NEWS ! I will redirect you to read Angel Beats mafia for a great example of how town can aggressively use double lynching as a strategy to win handily (not sure if there is anyone else here who was in that game). I will lend my land to trying to tie the votes toDay if needed, just ping me. Also fairly cute. |
Aug 15, 2017 12:28 AM
#1349
Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: I don't know Labs Logic, I have never played with them. Why wouldn't it bother me?Suzune-chan said: Sorry I did not answer your question just the comment above it. Currently for scum I like Ruu and yourself, as I feel like so many players including Labs, Yurkin, Coro, Aa, and Togs have so little to go by. In the end it bothers me that Labs was here for so long yesterday but really made no summary or strong reads. Well that hurts :'< |
Aug 15, 2017 12:30 AM
#1350
roz1roz said: If anyone snipe the votes (moves the votes near the day end, when we already agreed to go into twilight) I will vig ya. That's if I am a vig of course. lol.... smooth, good call in a sense. |
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