| My stance is that although popular anime are often good that's not always the case and ratings and popularity tend to differ drastically. Also If you look at the top anime page by rating on MAL then pick Gintama° which is #3 at the time of posting on its page you'll see it's rated at #415 by popularity although that's still relatively high its a huge difference. Next let's look at the unholy quartet of anime, naruto, bleach, 1piece, and dbz. I will refrain from stating my opinion on them as that is unrelated to the topic, regardless of your opinion on them you have to admit they are pretty hit or miss. So what are you thoughts? Feel free to agree or disagreed. I know this is the internet and we all love to be verbose at times but do try to keep it civil. Most of all have fun. TL:DR - No |
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| Nah, because good is subjective, and it depends if you think it's good or not, not when a Certain population thinks |
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| Nope. Three words: Sword Art Online. |
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| no , it just appeal to larger audience |
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| Popularity rankings on this website doesn't mean a lot, because of the surveyed population. In reality, (almost) never-ending series like Doraemon, Sazae-chan, another little girl I forgot, Anpaman, Dr.Slump, a good chunk of other long series (probably even the 79 Gundam or its movies) and those animation fests made for theaters in the 80s (included early Miyazaki/Takahata works). So, it probably doesn't mean good either. |
You said it not me. In all seriousness i refrained from mentioning that one as the lovers and haters both tend to be a tad ... verbose. |
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| Popular can sometimes lead to disappointment... :/ |
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| Popular != good, just look at FLCL :p (oh lord im gonna get it now...) |
| No it doesn't. Two words: Steins;Gate. |
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| Completely, it's the only thing that matters There is absolutely no better indicator of how much I'll like something than how many people know about it Anything with 150k+ members = immediate 10/10 from me |
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| No . Best example : SAO .................... |
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AnimeAddict117 said: Popular can sometimes lead to disappointment... :/ Agreed. Popularity often raises peoples expectations. The higher ones expectations, the more chance they have to be disappointed. |
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Yang_Siucao said: You said it not me. In all seriousness i refrained from mentioning that one as the lovers and haters both tend to be a tad ... verbose. Or more likely that the thread turns into SAO fans vs haters thread. |
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
| No. Look what happened with Sword Art Online. Started popular and good, then forced a new game, then a second season. Therefore stayed popular, but not good. |
AstZero said: Yang_Siucao said: You said it not me. In all seriousness i refrained from mentioning that one as the lovers and haters both tend to be a tad ... verbose. Or more likely that the thread turns into SAO fans vs haters thread. That is exactly what I was worried about. |
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AstZero said: Yang_Siucao said: You said it not me. In all seriousness i refrained from mentioning that one as the lovers and haters both tend to be a tad ... verbose. Or more likely that the thread turns into SAO fans vs haters thread. We should not lie to ourselves .. SAO receives so much hate especially when it comes to this thread .. everyone will release his hate for sao on this post (im one of them :p ) |
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| Popularity = objective. Good = subjective. |
| Popularity means broad appeal, nothing more. You can still appeal to a wide audience while maintaining quality but I often find that the best works of any medium, not just anime, are far more divisive and controversial. |
ShotmakerAug 9, 2017 3:08 PM
| No cause a lot of shows get popular for the meme potential. |
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| The word "popular" itself is a trap. Don't trust it until you actually watch the anime. It all depends on your tastes. "Popular" just means that it is known by many people, not necessarily liked or "good", like you said. If you asked people to give you an anime that is "good", then people will have different answers, although there could obviously be overlaps. |
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| No, it's flawed in the sense that a show with few people watching it could be rated so highly based on that demographic. It's not exactly proportionate to a more well-known series with the same score. Also, I'm sure there are millions of anime fans outside of Japan, yet the most popular show on MAL barely cracks a million; not even including the fact that only a fraction of that million actually scored the show. |
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| Popularity is more related to what type of show it is, aka the mainstream appeal. Popularity is based on how many people want to check out a series in the first place, how good something is can only be determined after people already watched it so what makes something popular and what makes something good aren't the same thing, or at least they don't have to be. Of course in the long-term something being critically acclaimed can make more people willing to check something out. But being popular makes even more people want to check something out just to be part of the discussion so shows that have mainstream appeal and popularity from the start will always be ahead compared to shows with niche appeal that gather some momentum after they aired because of their critical acclaim. Quality cannot be a substitute for mass appeal, at least not when it comes to competing in terms of popularity. If only a part of the audience is interested in your premise from the start, no matter how much they love what you're doing, it won't make too many people outside that target audience change their mind. On the other hand shows with mass appeal have a harder time getting really high ratings because while niche shows 'only' have to please their target audience to get a high rating, mainstream shows need to please everyone to achieve the same, which is hardly possible. It's just more manageable to make something that is good from a certain perspective than something that is good from every perspective. Quality is always perceived quality after all, and how people perceive something is based on their expectations and preferences. It can be generalized to some degree when it comes to people who share a similar pool of values, but it can never be generalized for a whole community. The most obvious example is it being basically impossible to please both people who need fanservice in every show to not get bored, and people who want a well written plot and see fanservice as getting in the way of that. If you go 50/50 on appealing to those crowds more people might want to check it out, but most likely more people will also have complaints about to much / not enough fanservice. It is very rare for shows to manage to satisfy a wide variety of fans with opposing preferences like this. Of course in reality preferences are more complex than that but this simplified example was just there to illustrate the point. But well, that is all pretty much common sense. Not sure what OP expect from this topic aside from that tho. |
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| According to the mere-exposure effect basically yes. The more people see something the likelihood that they will develop a preference to it increases. Also taking a later season of Gintama for a popularity measure is generally flawed. Granted the first season landing at 88 in popularity isn't particularly amazing compared to the fourth season landing at 415 it's a pretty significant drop. Not to mention the basic sequel effect. Basically if One Piece, Dragonball, Bleach, and Naruto divided themselves into a bunch of separate seasons they would rank extremely high as well while their popularity would decrease. Case in point if you look at Naruto the first section ranked at 788 while Shippuden ranked at 383 and between the 2 entries it lost 167,000 members dropping its popularity by 18 slots. (Granted Dragonball does break the trend but it had a really strange international distribution method so DBZ ended up being the entry point for most people.) |
GamerDLMAug 9, 2017 4:03 PM
| Nah. You can sometimes come across anime that aren't popular, but are definitely good (like Texhnolyze or Zegapain). Popular simply means it is well-liked by the majority. Of course, there can be anime that are popular AND good (FMA, Hunter x Hunter, etc.), as well as popular AND not good (Future Diary, SAO, Re:Zero, etc.). |
| Thankfully, we have ratings to tell us whether a popular anime is good or not. Generally, if they have a rating above 8.4 they're really good, and most above 8 are pretty good as well. Ratings matter a lot more for popular anime, as they can't benefit from the "niche" effect (i.e. catering to a small audience that will like it, but might not appeal to others). They also need broad appeal to maintain high ratings. |
| I'll answer your question with the following: >Twilight is popular >Justin Beiber is popular >Trump is popular >SAO is popular Catch my drift? |
| Obviously not but it's interesting to see as to why certain series rose to popular status. And when it comes to anime the popular draw usually pertains to a general appeal to what lots of people like. |
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| >Popular >Good Another Every convo by a petty Casuals... |
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| Popularity doesn't guarantee I'll like it, so no. Popular =/= Good |
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exactly my thogh thank you... yes,agreed... just because asano inio popular, doesn't mean he is a good mangaka... |
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| No,good is subjective as different people has different standard/criteria. Popularity means the general consensus or the majority people think it's good but it doesn't mean you yourself think it's good. Popularity however is the only way or the closest to find quality of anime objectively(if such thing exist) with your own bias being removed, since it represent evaluation and criteria/standard by general consensus rather than your own criteria/standard. Popularity(consensus) = objective |
ZapredonAug 10, 2017 8:23 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| Oh god I can hear the heavy-out-of-shape breathing and fast typing... A war is upon us... |
| Quantity (popularity) ≠ Quality Look at Sword Arts Online, *cough* *cough*Steins;Gate, *cough* *cough* Kimi no Na Wa, *cough* *cough* Naruto. Lol. *waits for the fans of the anime I mentioned* |
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| If that was true then most of the best series would be shounen, so yeah, nope. |
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| I agree, Sword Art Online is the best anime ever made. |
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| Maybe yes, maybe no. It really depends. But I always give it a shot if the plot is interesting. I decide from there. |
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| It has it's up's and down's, a two-edged sword, a blessing and a curse. |
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| No, it doesnt. It just means a lot of people who dont watch a lot of anime like it (It can be good, even a masterpiece, but popular=good) |
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