| I don't really care about romance in this series. As MC is interesting to watch alone |
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AnimeCruiser said: Please see the genre's of this anime, manga and LN : Genres: Comedy, Romance, School Farabeuf said: Despite the tags I'm not really feeling this to have much romantic development going on. MC is pretty cold and neutral in many ways. Out of the girls so far presented, I like Sakura best. She's sweet and is hot as a black car in the desert sun. AnimeCruiser said: Please see the genre's of this anime, manga and LN : Genres: Comedy, Romance, School Do you seriously believe in MAL's genre tag? I mean, i've read all volumes and I'm pretty sure Im more accurate. This cannot be called a romance novel and romance is a sub-genre at best. Also, you should have realized the tags are WRONG when you saw the comedy tag. If anything, this should have drama as a tag. |
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| Like almost all of harem out there, first heroine win percentage is always 99% Horikita will win Fucking generic Sakura FTW |
World_Creator said: This series isn't like most harem though. I see a higher chance of him ending with no one than Horikita.Like almost all of harem out there, first heroine win percentage is always 99% Horikita will win Fucking generic Sakura FTW |
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Ragna92 said: World_Creator said: This series isn't like most harem though. I see a higher chance of him ending with no one than Horikita.Like almost all of harem out there, first heroine win percentage is always 99% Horikita will win Fucking generic Sakura FTW Yeah bcoz you heard about the LN readers says the chances of Horikita and Sudo But yeah with what the latest episode implied, MC is some kind of enhanced and experimented child so chances are high that this will be a Zankyou No Terror end So much for a harem |
HamBaconEgg said: It's rare for me to vote for the Black-haired, Ice Queen girl. But I must say I quite like Horokita. I thought at first she would be a plain bitch to the MC, but their interactions so far seems okay for me. I see LN readers that Sakura is more of a love interest for MC, and that Sudo is for Horkita. Lol.. A shame, that I'm actually okay with MC x Horokita. But the two of them having a different love interest seems good as well. But Sudo? Really? I actually got a small vibe when Horokita gave Sudo the English notes after his club practice. But I don't see Sudo's characrer to be interesting enough to be paired with the main heroine(?). Don't believe in all what you read here, since most of it in this topic is baseless speculations or bullshit. There is no chance in hell HorikitaxSudou happening or any implications to it - not romantic wise anyway. Do you believe genius loner Horikita would like to be ended up with brainless perverted muscle idiot Sudou from the idiot three? ^^ Best source is LN, so who didn't read it, simply doesn't know shit and isn't worth believing to regarding "shippu wars" lol. |
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| I am still plowing through this anime (episode 6), and I have to be honest....I hope he ends up with no one. He is an ambitionless, emotionally destitute bore. How does this anime have close to an 8 ranking? |
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| Rooting for Horikita or Ichinose. |
 ♔ caught in the wonder ♔ |
| > Expecting an ending where the protagonist ends up in solid relationship with one of the heroines One thing this show has taught me, is to not take it seriously. And I don't mean it in a good way. |
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| Kei Karuizawa |
| What makes you think he will "end up" with anyone? He's a Machiavellian sociopath so even if he does get into a relationship it will be purely for his benefit. |
AnimeCruiser said: Please see the genre's of this anime, manga and LN : Genres: Comedy, Romance, School I mean, it's listed as comedy, but its also not even remotely funny. So genre tags aren't exactly gospel. |
| I want the MC to end up with the teacher lol |
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| Rooting for Sakura. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| By the looks of the last episode, I think he will end up with the sea... |
| It seems like I am the only one rooting for ichinose. |
FeelsSoBadMan said: From a LN reader point of view i can say both kushida and horikita has no chance as of now. Kainemvhzc said: Stop crying its obvious in the last eps. kushida said youll be choose horikita over me right " then the last part she started to harbor feelings, your friend obviously read the wrong novel Ah thank you. |
| Given how much the MC's mind is twisted, for him to get involved in a romance would probably mean a seriously twisted one. So I don't think it could happen with Sakura which is too "cute and nice" for a guy like him. I would love to see a kind of "love and hate, sex and manipulation" thing with the teacher. Their dialogues are always edgy, and they seem to love to threaten each other xD It would probably be a sick relationship but... the MC IS sick, after all ^^' I really don't see him suddenly changing and getting involved with a cute and nice girl. It would just feel wrong imo I was rooting for Horikita at first but I really don't think that she could handle a guy like him. Under her "I'm a strong woman" looks, she's actually a very passive girl hiding a very fragile personnality which could easily be crushed by someone like Ayanokouji. That's why neither Sakura nor Horikita could possibly end up with him. And if they did, I really dont see how this could lead to something good. It would probably end up REALLY bad for everyone. But, well, I didnt read the LN so It's only my advice based on what we saw during the anime ^^ |
| Looks like to me that too many people think the MC's personality won't change... Lol he is the MC ! He won't keep his assh*ole personality until the end. ( or so I think). He will probably realize the importance of Kizuna/bonds one day thanks to some people, probably girls and that his classmates are not just tools. Considering everyone's personality I think the one who might change him is Sakura. I am personally rooting for MC X sensei XD |
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Seiya0890 said: Looks like to me that too many people think the MC's personality won't change... Lol he is the MC ! He won't keep his assh*ole personality until the end. ( or so I think). He will probably realize the importance of Kizuna/bonds one day thanks to some people, probably girls and that his classmates are not just tools. I'm not saying the guy won't change at all. The simple fact to discuss about Ayanokouji getting involved in a romance implies a big change because right now at the end of S1, there's no way something like that could ever happen XD But the thing is, you can't start as an assassin and end up as a white knight. Everyone changes, but your character and personnality won't change from scratch. Someone like Sakura could never end up with him because they are juste way too different. It just won't match at all. I can't think of a reason why he would be interested in someone like her at all, because I think the guy's just too fucked up to watch her as "a light in his darkness". The sensei is kinda twisted like him and I believe she has a dark side too. Even though it would be twisted and weird, I personnally think it would be more realistic for Ayanokouji to get involved with someone like her, than someone like Sakura or Horikita, because they are just way too different from him. At least, that's what I think ^^ |
kappa34 said: I'm not saying the guy won't change at all. The simple fact to discuss about Ayanokouji getting involved in a romance implies a big change because right now at the end of S1, there's no way something like that could ever happen XD But the thing is, you can't start as an assassin and end up as a white knight. Everyone changes, but your character and personnality won't change from scratch. Someone like Sakura could never end up with him because they are juste way too different. It just won't match at all. I can't think of a reason why he would be interested in someone like her at all, because I think the guy's just too fucked up to watch her as "a light in his darkness". The sensei is kinda twisted like him and I believe she has a dark side too. Even though it would be twisted and weird, I personnally think it would be more realistic for Ayanokouji to get involved with someone like her, than someone like Sakura or Horikita, because they are just way too different from him. At least, that's what I think ^^ Actually, the reason I think Sakura might be the one to change him is exactly because they are too different. I might be wrong of course, but I do think that having 2 opposite characters being attracted to each other could work. I did not read the novels yet, but in the anime her character is basically useless and it does not feel like she will contribute a lot to the plot. So what is the point of having her as a secondary main cast ? If not to help him change ? |
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Seiya0890 said: Actually, the reason I think Sakura might be the one to change him is exactly because they are too different. I might be wrong of course, but I do think that having 2 opposite characters being attracted to each other could work. I did not read the novels yet, but in the anime her character is basically useless and it does not feel like she will contribute a lot to the plot. So what is the point of having her as a secondary main cast ? If not to help him change ? I asked myself this question A LOT for Sakura AND Horikita. Why is he helping them ? As for Horikita, it seems that he is using her as a decoy so that everyone thinks that she's the one saving their classmates asses everytime, so it could be the reason. I think if everyone came to understand who he really is, he couldn't act as freely as he doest right now. But still, that wouldn't explain why he would try to help her get to class A. As for Sakura, it's even worse. The girl is totally useless for his purpose, so I still don't get it. You do have a point, though. I don't know why he would keep Sakura closer that most of the other classmates. I didn't find any answer that satisfied me. Maybe there's something about her that he knows and that we are supposed to learn later in the story. Or maybe she's just like the barometer of the serie. I cant shake the feeling that this all thing is an experiment, and that every one of them has been chosen for one specific reason. So, who knows... Maybe Sakura isn't what she seems to be ? I don't have any other leads, which is very frustrating. But I've gotta admit : if he just keeps her nearby because... she's kind of the opposite of him, I would be disappointed. It would be a little too... simple ! But its just my advice on it ^^ It could be it ! I just don't buy it right now. |
kappa34 said: I asked myself this question A LOT for Sakura AND Horikita. Why is he helping them ? As for Horikita, it seems that he is using her as a decoy so that everyone thinks that she's the one saving their classmates asses everytime, so it could be the reason. I think if everyone came to understand who he really is, he couldn't act as freely as he doest right now. But still, that wouldn't explain why he would try to help her get to class A. As for Sakura, it's even worse. The girl is totally useless for his purpose, so I still don't get it. You do have a point, though. I don't know why he would keep Sakura closer that most of the other classmates. I didn't find any answer that satisfied me. Maybe there's something about her that he knows and that we are supposed to learn later in the story. Or maybe she's just like the barometer of the serie. I cant shake the feeling that this all thing is an experiment, and that every one of them has been chosen for one specific reason. So, who knows... Maybe Sakura isn't what she seems to be ? I don't have any other leads, which is very frustrating. But I've gotta admit : if he just keeps her nearby because... she's kind of the opposite of him, I would be disappointed. It would be a little too... simple ! But its just my advice on it ^^ It could be it ! I just don't buy it right now. I can understand your frustration ^^, but it does not feel like Ayanokoji is keeping her around but more like Sakura tries to stay around him (or the author keeps her around). Therefore that is why I think she will be later some sort of support and be maybe the trigger that could change him, by having an unexpected behavior for example. Right now it feels like Ayanokoji is foreseeing everything so the only way for him to change is to have some unexpected event to occur. I guess it will be related to his father. Right now the MC wants to win, I guess he wants the D class to become A class. However the elite system is morally wrong, I presume in the end he would want to destroy this system (that would be the morale of the story). So many things must happen for him to hold different opinion. This is where Sakura might come, because it looks like to me that she would be the one who is the most unpleased by this system. Well this is some over analyzing and could be pure bullsh*t though. |
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Seiya0890 said: I can understand your frustration ^^, but it does not feel like Ayanokoji is keeping her around but more like Sakura tries to stay around him You may be right about that. It's true that she likes him a lot. As for the possible effect she could have on him, that's possible. I don't know, I had the feeling that Ayanokouji is way too damaged to be "repaired" in some way. But I probably overestimated the dark aspect of the character. the fact that he would want to destroy this system is an interesting theory, it could be his goal. It would explain a lot of things. Too bad we are probably never gonna know, I mean ppl who dont read LN XD |
| Sakura is the worst. Using rape as a way to quickly induce affection irritates me on every level. This type of affection would not be healthy in real life, and it is no substitute for actually developing a relationship. Given that Ayanokuji may or may not be the manipulative asshole in the anime, and this makes his offer to be Sakura's confidant an insidious move. If he is not, then it is something I find absolutely horrendous to romanticize. It would be nothing more than a juvenile white knight rescuing a damsel in distress fantasy. |
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kappa34 said: the fact that he would want to destroy this system is an interesting theory, it could be his goal. It would explain a lot of things. Too bad we are probably never gonna know, I mean ppl who dont read LN XD Actually on animesuki forum you can read summaries of the LN. PeripheralVision said: If he is not, then it is something I find absolutely horrendous to romanticize. It would be nothing more than a juvenile white knight rescuing a damsel in distress fantasy. That is what he is for her. But what could be interesting is how she can get him. And the other girls who could be interested in him would do so because he helped them which is not especially original. But I am still rooting for a Sensei route. |
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Seiya0890 said: kappa34 said: the fact that he would want to destroy this system is an interesting theory, it could be his goal. It would explain a lot of things. Too bad we are probably never gonna know, I mean ppl who dont read LN XD Actually on animesuki forum you can read summaries of the LN. PeripheralVision said: If he is not, then it is something I find absolutely horrendous to romanticize. It would be nothing more than a juvenile white knight rescuing a damsel in distress fantasy. That is what he is for her. But what could be interesting is how she can get him. And the other girls who could be interested in him would do so because he helped them which is not especially original. But I am still rooting for a Sensei route. Originality isn't my concern, because of what works works, and this depends on doing it well. My main criticism of many modern romances is that they trying to dress up the genre with gimmicks and novel premises that stray too much from the original basis of what made previous romances in work in general. It is an overt concern with the new and shiny in a topic that is relatively unchanged since thousands of years ago. In any case, I prefer fantasy to not affect the more human aspects of the relation. Anyhoo, my main concern isn't that this type of fantasy isn't unused, but I find it bothersome in how cheap and effective it is to take a shortcut to romance, alongside the romanticized fantasy that goes far against reality. It seems unrealistic, but mostly it is an extremely unhealthy source of romantic feelings. Sakura knows shit about Ayanokuji, but falls for him within a span of two days, all on the basis of moderate instability and severe emotional distress. I am tired of this bullshit, not because it is overused, but it is misused and misunderstood. Rape being used as both shock factor and a way to induce feelings within a serious context is simply distasteful. Hence, Sakura is worst girl. She is simply a bimbo for fanservice as I see it. It might not reflect it in the light novels, but thus far. I still have a bad taste in my mouth after episode 6, and 7. |
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PeripheralVision said: Originality isn't my concern, because of what works works, and this depends on doing it well. My main criticism of many modern romances is that they trying to dress up the genre with gimmicks and novel premises that stray too much from the original basis of what made previous romances in work in general. It is an overt concern with the new and shiny in a topic that is relatively unchanged since thousands of years ago. In any case, I prefer fantasy to not affect the more human aspects of the relation. Anyhoo, my main concern isn't that this type of fantasy isn't unused, but I find it bothersome in how cheap and effective it is to take a shortcut to romance, alongside the romanticized fantasy that goes far against reality. It seems unrealistic, but mostly it is an extremely unhealthy source of romantic feelings. Sakura knows shit about Ayanokuji, but falls for him within a span of two days, all on the basis of moderate instability and severe emotional distress. I am tired of this bullshit, not because it is overused, but it is misused and misunderstood. Rape being used as both shock factor and a way to induce feelings within a serious context is simply distasteful. Hence, Sakura is worst girl. She is simply a bimbo for fanservice as I see it. It might not reflect it in the light novels, but thus far. I still have a bad taste in my mouth after episode 6, and 7. I agree ^^ That's why I would have loved something with a character like the sensei for a refreshing change. I thought the show was capable of breaking those classic approches of the romance, but the simple fact that Sakura's here makes me believe that you Seiya0890 might be right, and that she's here for that classic trigger. Again, it would be a great disappointement for me. I really dont buy someone as simpleminded as Sakura could induce any change in Ayanokouji. As for Sakura, I'm not even sure she noticed the fact that Ayanokouji has serious social issues, because she seems to be in her own bright world. I think she's the worst girl too ^^' And her "cuteness" is too forced for me. It's like "look the cute girl, she's the only one cute and nice within this corrupted world and was almost raped, please protect her !" Stop it... |
| I agree. Karuizawa is just a trash who fights only to stay the number 1 girl of the class. She has a constant need of recognition from her classmates. She's the Yumiko Miura (Oregairu) of Elite Classroom ! Bitch sounds more like a job for her XD (sry about that for the Karuizawa fans ^^' ). She has nearly 0 interaction with Ayanokouji, and even though she's trying to be loved by everyone, she is no use to him. So there's absolutely no reason why he would finish with this girl, easy to read, selfish and manipulative. Ayanokouji is twisted but I believe he knows he is. I don't see him getting involved with a fake girl like Karuizawa, which isn't very smart. |
kappa34Oct 3, 2017 12:20 PM
halovn113 said: kappa34 said: I agree. Karuizawa is just a trash who fights only to stay the number 1 girl of the class. She has a constant need of recognition from her classmates. She's the Yumiko Miura (Oregairu) of Elite Classroom ! Bitch sounds more like a job for her XD (sry about that for the Karuizawa fans ^^' ). She has nearly 0 interaction with Ayanokouji, and even though she's trying to be loved by everyone, she is no use to him. So there's absolutely no reason why he would finish with this girl, easy to read, selfish and manipulative. Ayanokouji is twisted but I believe he knows he is. I don't see him getting involved with a fake girl like Karuizawa, which isn't very smart. "0 interaction". Too bad. Whatever you tried to talk, the more wrong you did. She has a lots interactions than after vol 4. Im not talking LN but anime here ^^ Like I said, I didnt read the LN. |
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