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| This episode raised my rating for Bokurano. I loved it. Was a kind of heavy episode, didn't expect it to turn out like this. Definitely looking forward to more! |
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| I think heavy is the right word to describe this episode. It doesn't look like the animators are going to hold any punches concerning what happens to these kids. That Dung Beetle is one evil, manipulative little bugger by screwing with Isao's emotions in such a way. He seems to enjoy pushing peoples' buttons and also acts very cocky when confronted by the adults. I'm hoping that overconfidence comes to bite him back in the end. Until then it looks like the kids are going to continue dying on schedule though. Also, it looks like I was wrong with the order since Kunihiko has avoided the death sentence for now. Isao is pretty unstable now so I'm wondering what he'll do in the next episode. |
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tainteddonut said: I'm very, very glad about that.I think heavy is the right word to describe this episode. It doesn't look like the animators are going to hold any punches concerning what happens to these kids. The show is gaining points in my book as it progresses. The kids personallities and background have been totally different so far, and I'm liking that very much tainteddonut said: I'd love to see that too.That Dung Beetle is one evil, manipulative little bugger by screwing with Isao's emotions in such a way. He seems to enjoy pushing peoples' buttons and also acts very cocky when confronted by the adults. I'm hoping that overconfidence comes to bite him back in the end. Until then it looks like the kids are going to continue dying on schedule though. Anyone got the feeling that the bastard was somehow talking to the game designer on that scene where he was alone inside Zearth (minute 8.22)? And from the preview, well expecially more from the next episode title "Lust", I'm getting the feeling the next episode will be heavy too. That guy is pretty unstable indeed, and now that he knows he's gonna die... It wouldn't surprise me if he tries to force himself on Chizu... that is, if the producers intend to go that far... Eitherway, it's getting very interesting. Looking foward to the next ep. |
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Kayrhandros said: Anyone got the feeling that the bastard was somehow talking to the game designer on that scene where he was alone inside Zearth (minute 8.22)? I thought so too. Dung Beetle obviously has a master but who is it? I want to guess that it's the guy that first got the kids to sign up but in that episode he seemed apologetic in his last scene as if he was just another pawn. It was never confirmed if he was dead or alive though so if he really is the creator he may be able to bypass that whole "die from piloting" effect. |
| ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| Correct me if i'm wrong but i heard some say in the manga Daichi was next and Kako was actually the 5th person.So,they changed the order in the anime. |
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| I've only had guesses as to what the order would be for the kids to pilot. I've never read the manga and don't plan on doing so as I'd like to avoid any spoilers. |
| ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| Yeah, I definitely think this was one of the most heaviest episodes this far with all the sexism and so on. I felt sorry for Kako for being the next pilot. |
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| Pretty heavy episode. But if the kids had to die, Kako should be next. Couldn't stand how he treated his partners and his mother. On top of it he's a half-stalker who has sex on his mind for a kid of his age. Dumbass of a kid. I'm hoping the kids figure out how to bypass dying after piloting Zearth. That way, I can feel a tad bit more hopeful for this series to turn into one that doesn't screw with my insides (should any show really allow children to face death and be forced to accept it? Its too twisted and I don't know if I can bare the Writer's twisted mentality). |
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| This show could very well turn out to be a masterpiece if it keeps along the lines it's going now. One thing, did no one find it f'd up that Chizu was talking about how she enjoys having sex with her teacher? |
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Roketsu said: I didn't find it so f'd up 'coz I think she was just teasing Kako. If I hadn't read it that way, then yeah.One thing, did no one find it f'd up that Chizu was talking about how she enjoys having sex with her teacher? Though it's one of the things that's making the anime gain points in my view.. the way the present things, sometimes in a brutal way. |
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Roketsu said: One thing, did no one find it f'd up that Chizu was talking about how she enjoys having sex with her teacher? Screwed up, yes, but it's just another interesting facet of her character. These kids aren't all innocent angels. |
| ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| Yeah, it was more of a "..." moment for me, and I totally agree that this anime's character development is great. |
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| I wasnt expecting that from Chizu, the love thing with her teacher (she's 7th grade for crying out loud >,>) .... But what the hey, she's still my favourite charecter. It looks like the next episode is going to be even more inside turning than this episode, with Chizu running from Kako, and what i think may be him forcing her on himself. I always thought Kako was a bit of a bastard, the way he treats that chubby kid, now i know his a horny bastard >w<. Edit: Oh yeah, forgot to say. I hope that a** guy with the one raised eyebrow burns in hell >,>.... |
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| So just as I thought the kids are now going to flip out whenever they hear the voice. To be honest I don't really care for Kako at all since he seems to be just some horny kid and would probably try to rape Chizu. This episode also kind of put into perspective how humans think that they can understand everything, sure the chances of a giant robot capable of destroying the earth appearing isn't very likely but it still gets the point across. |
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| I think the word heave describes the entire anime. Definitely an inside twisting, knuckle biting, and fist clenching show. Jeez, if Kako was flipping out like that BEFORE he found out he was the next pilot, what's he going to do now? |
 Higurashi: Retroactively asserting why scary and cute sound so similar in Japanese. |
PeanutSteak said: So just as I thought the kids are now going to flip out whenever they hear the voice. To be honest I don't really care for Kako at all since he seems to be just some horny kid and would probably try to rape Chizu. This episode also kind of put into perspective how humans think that they can understand everything, sure the chances of a giant robot capable of destroying the earth appearing isn't very likely but it still gets the point across. teh poor guy's gonna die, n so is she ... tho if hes gona rape sum1, he may as well rape sum1 he hates n kill em later when hes piloting >.<... tho im beting the reality is alot more immersive storyline than that :P |
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| I've already loved Dung Beetle, but this episode made him even better. About him having a partner/leader-ish entity, I don't have any preferences towards yes or no. He could simply be talking to himself in that kind of way, it'd work. "You wanna fuck her brains out, don't you?" & "You called? If some cute little girls are calling for me, I guess I gotta show up and strut my stuff, y'know?" were epic. NDF guy aiming his weapon at him got rocked, and that was to be expected. We know Dung Beetle can basically set who passes next; he was tired of Kako-kun, so he just thought "yeah, it'll be him next". Maybe the default selection is on random, but he has an influence on it; or he has to choose all of them. |
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| Dude, it's not cool to be a 7th grade virigin? Fuck, what has this world come to? |
| shithole brat deserves to die. |
| It's kinda funny to see Kako freaking out at the end. |
| Fuck, already this show is extremely depressing. I keep looking at all the characters and am like "oh god, they're gonna die... ;_;" The way Kako is reacting is understandable though. Pretty sad how he's so mean to his mom. And I can't stand Dung Beetle already. I thought maybe he would have some sympathy for the kids...lol nope. |
| Kako is being a total asshole to his mom, I feel sorry for her. She's being so sweet and understanding to him and he's just freaking out. Not like she could help or would probably even believe him. I still felt sorry for him when he saw the symbol plastered across his face, though. Don't see why people seem surprised he's horny as hell as a 7th grader ... if you are, you don't remember being a 7th grader very well. I was surprised to find out one of the other characters is banging their teacher, but that only makes this even grittier of an anime. It's a very unflnching look at adolescents, and they do get horny and have sex like the rest of us. Nobody was complaining about the sociopath who was the second pilot... Dung Beetle is gleefully evil, it's kinda amusing and definitely clashes with his stuffed-animal exterior. He reminds me of Kyubey, tho that little bastard was never as outwardly harmful. |
| Yeah, Dung Beetle is kinda like Kyuubei :x Only with feelings, sadistic feelings :] Anyways, good episode. I'm really enjoying this show. |
| These are definitely not 7th graders. |
| Hehe, "fuck her brains out" :P |
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| This is a rare anime that actually makes me want to watch the next episode immediately. It always ends on a cliffhanger. Like Code Geass in that sense. Also, it's weird to see a mixture of supernatural elements and how detailed all the responses are to it. |
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| Honestly, I think Kako's reaction is a more realistic one. Now that he knows he's going to die, there is very little meaning or purpose behind his everyday life. He has to deal with waking up every morning, knowing that everything he does today will be rendered completely irrelevant in a matter of days. With that knowledge, things such as domestic violence and rape suddenly go from being serious crimes that should be avoided to petty afterthoughts, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he tried to rape her. After all, he's going to die regardless, so if she is so retarded that she would rather stay in a relationship with her teacher even though she knows that both him and herself are about to die, why the hell would he put up with it? His life is going to end in a matter of days, so what if he rapes her? He wont even live long enough to hold any regrets about it. I'm not saying that I want him to commit rape, I'm saying that I can understand him doing things like that considering the situation he is in. Also, I really like the way this anime doesn't hold anything back. This was made especially obvious between the scene with Dung Beetle and Kako, where Dung Beetle explicitly said "You wanna' fuck her brains out, don't you?", and also the scene where Dung Beetle cut a man's arm off. ArtRodriguez said: Dude, it's not cool to be a 7th grade virigin? Fuck, what has this world come to? As any middle schooler will tell you, V-cards are the new cool thing to lose for 7th graders, second only to tempers and dignity. |
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| Well, I have no sympathy for that brat so he can die for all I care. Anyway, the plot is developing nicely. |
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| This is really getting good! I just like the development of both the story and characters, it's so well done, and now the government can observe it I really wonder what influence it will have towards the fight and their lives! Let's see what's next but boy this sure is good! |
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| I find Kaku's reaction normal. It's the other kids' reactions i find odd. You'll probably die soon and you don't even know why all these things've been happening. To make things worse that arrogant Dung Beetle isn't helping either. Finding out that you are going to die soon gives freedom as well. With Dung Beetle's manipulation, Kaku wanted to use this freedom to get laid but failed. Now it looks like his time's run out. |
cyruz said: This episode raised my rating for Bokurano. I loved it. Was a kind of heavy episode, didn't expect it to turn out like this. Definitely looking forward to more! Same here, I was not convinced to this anime, but now it seems to be really good series, I hope it will be as good as it is now till end. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| I do feel bad for him, he was being an asshole to his mom but who's to say he's normally like this or if its just from the stress of everything going on. Knowing you're going to die...I'm sure most of them will have their freakout moments. |
| Man, these kids are turning into a real bunch of assholes. Would love to see kako die :^) |
| The cat is out of the bag, time to panic and for a futile and unconvincing attempt at optimism. Nice try Maki, but even a cheerful girl like you can't believe that there's hope. The best thing to do is brace yourself, even if that's easier said than done. If someone told me I that I will die soon I would be like "Fuck that shit, in Gantz you have at least a fair chance" The first segment had some more characterisation again. Nakama and Daichi who looked at the situation rationally and accepted it dutifully stood out to me. Moreover, the reason why Ushiro hates and mistreats his sister was revealed. He blames her for their mothers death. This has a lot of potenial in terms of character conflict. Whether he's piloting Zearth while Kana is still alive or after her death, it should get interesting. Kako is up next, tho and even before knowing that he was already not being able to cope with the prospect of imminent death as calmly as the others. He's a spoiled brat that tries to act cool and picks on weaker ones like Kirie to feel better about himself or when he's frustrated. What's more, we've seen enough to deduce that he’s beating his meek mom. There's no better explanation as to where she got that bruise on her cheek from. The sadistic Koyemshi was heartlessly messing with the emotionally unstable boy for sport and the situation at home is pretty shitty with a indifferent sister on top of that. That must be especially painful in a situation where you usually would spend time with your loved ones. To make matters even worse, he's the first one who has not just to fight the enemy, but also the fear of death. "Why do I have to die?" Why, indeed. Keeping that in mind, it's logical that the mangaka gave us such an extreme case that highlights how fear and hopelessness reduce the character to nothing more than a selfish and pathetic child. I almost feel sorry for him and to be fair, that's how I imagine a teenager in that situation to react (Minus the rampage at home) He calmed down and went for the one thing many virgins eh I mean guys like Kako have in mind before they die, pussy. His attempt to enthuse Chizu to ride him like it's his last day on earth is as fruitless as trying to escape the game. For real, to achieve the latter seems more feasable in his state. Nohing is more of a turn off than some desperate guy, but Jesus, give this guy same pity sex. I guess we will find out about her relationship with her teacher when it's her turn. The defense bureau made contact with the children. Such support is reassuring and inspired hope for a brief moment. I thought that entire scene was a bit more lighthearted in general. Information was exchanged and Koyemshi was invited to the party. He let the adults knew their place, only Tanaka showed a speck of wits and knew how to please by knowing her place. You would think all people in their position are supposed to read the room, but this is the world of fiction where some characters have to be dumbed down for others to shine. Seriously, who in their right mind would try to threaten an alien you know virtually nothing about with a gun. When arrogance and stupidity have a cross-over 💀 I remember Tanaka from the opening btw, so she will most definitely play an important role. This hopefully won't be limited to emotional support for the children. I could see her end up sacrificing herself. Would be nice if the military could come up with an alternative fuel that replaces human life force, but I guess that would render the whole story pointless. Nah, we want to see the full misery. |
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| Kako seems to have a screw loose as well. All the craziest and most impulsive kids are getting eliminated first, it seems. I can't complain, it means they have less screentime to shout constantly. Got to say, Kokopelli is likeable. He's clearly enjoying messing with these kids and witnessing their reactions to unfolding events, and he doesn't beat around the bush when it comes to informing them of the implications of their situation. |
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