Is Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni. better than KonoSuba?
Yes
6.9%
14
No
77.5%
158
Both are shit
3.9%
8
I like both
11.8%
24
204 votes
| The comparison seems impossible to avoid, both shows are almost equal, but on the contrary. While KonoSuba is too "funny", this is more focused on the adventure, and don't seem to be kidding all the time. I'm enjoying it more than I enjoyed KonoSuba (until now, episode 2). What about you guys? |
SukerokuJul 24, 2017 9:08 AM
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| Are you high? This show barely has 2 episodes out already, atleast wait until it finishes. At the moment, no. I don't think this will be a better series than Konosuba. |
| I don't really think it's fair to compare them, considering they aren't really the same genre. |
| Konosuba has clear value in that it is a very good comedy anime with some nice action sequences. Isekai Smartphone has no clear values, no absolute reason why you should watch it. The source of the whole anime, the plot, is very boring. There's no sense of conflict because everything is so inconsequential, and not just because the protagonist is OP. The characters are forgettable and I question their purpose. The comedy is not funny at all. The only good thing I've heard about it is that it's "calm". I really must wonder how jaded someone has to be by "exciting" anime to accept this. The differences are really like night and day. The characters in Konosuba are actually characters that I can describe with a few words. I can't even remember half the cast of Isekai Smartphone, let alone describe them. The comedy in Konosuba works thanks to the animation style, voice actors and good timing. I don't even think Isekai has comedy to begin with. The synopsis MAL uses is quite good at selling the show. I'll paste it to save some time. "Touya Mochizuki was accidentally killed, and as an apology, God allows him to be reborn in a fantasy world and will grant him any one wish he desires. And so, Touya chooses to keep his smartphone in the next world. In his second chance at life, he befriends many important figures and comes across the world's secret. He inherits the legacy of an ancient civilization and travels around nonchalantly while possessing powers that rival this world's kings." So far we have reached the "befriending many important figures" part, but the two parts that get me interested are "the world's secret" and "the legacy of an ancient civilization" which hint that there may be a purpose for this after all. At the same time, alarm bells go around when I read "travels around nonchalantly". In the same sentence, all potential plot developments are undermined by that quote. This is a question that really should be asked at the end of this anime. The anime may somehow redeem itself and add in some meaningful conflict or by some miracle, improve its animation, although that may be expecting too much from the author/Studio Reed. If you couldn't tell, my answer is an emphatic NO, KonoSuba is leagues better than Isekai Smartphone. The only one who appears to actually think that Isekai is better than KonoSuba is the person who started this poll, likely because they wanted to feel like they weren't alone in their opinions. Also the option of "I like Both" is just dumb to add, because that would either suggest that the person voting is indecisive or actually thinks that KonoSuba and Isekai Smartphone are on the same level. It's the same story with "Both are shit", since it's unlikely that you hate both anime to the same extent. You can still say x anime is better than y anime, even if you hate both of them with all of your soul. In short, Isekai Smartphone is trash so far, and this poll is equally as bad. |
| I like both so far KonoSuba 2nd season was not as good as 1st season. For me, KonoSuba 1st season is still best out of those |
| The Smartphone anime is rushed as hell with weird jump cuts almost every minute,so I'd say KonoSuba clearly wins. I personally like the WN/LN of Isekai Smartphone but since this is an anime discussion I'll just strictly compare the anime versions where KonoSuba wins hands down. |
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| I love this anime but its just another "second coming of jesus anime" but this time with a smartphone, Its super cliche and unbelievably predictable, I don't think its anywhere near being like Konosuba but its still fun, I hope something interesting develops from the plot and that smartphone actually becomes useful because god knows its this anime's selling point. |
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| Don't even know how you compared the 2 of them. First episode of this was very underwhelming to me and didn't leave much of an impression. Honestly just another generic guy sent to another world who is OP and gets the girls anime. |
vong10 said: Don't even know how you compared the 2 of them. First episode of this was very underwhelming to me and didn't leave much of an impression. Honestly just another generic guy sent to another world who is OP and gets the girls anime. Yes. Actually, I think I've liked this anime because it's too generic and cliche, I think sometimes cliches are necessary :v PS: I compared the 2 because there is a lot of similarities: Going to another world, meeting a god, being an adventurer, making a party with girls, etc. |
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| How dare you compare this shit to KonoSuba :( |
| HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ....wait you're serious? |
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| People still don't get it? Konosuba is supposed to be a parody of various series similar to this one. They aren't "the same". Isekai Smartphone = isekai-genre series Konosuba = parody of isekai-genre series |
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| easily konosuba win. there megumin is =) |
| It can still go to shit, so we'll have to see. So far though, I think that I will personally enjoy this show more than KonoSuba. KonoSuba just wasn't my style of show though. |
| Generic smartphone vs the comedy-gold that is konosuba. Nothing to compare here. Grey-Zone said: People still don't get it? Konosuba is supposed to be a parody of various series similar to this one. They aren't "the same". Isekai Smartphone = isekai-genre series Konosuba = parody of isekai-genre series ^ Nicely put. Grey-Zone said: People still don't get it? Konosuba is supposed to be a parody of various series similar to this one. They aren't "the same". Isekai Smartphone = isekai-genre series Konosuba = parody of isekai-genre series FlameTaJaDoru said: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ....wait you're serious? My thoughts exactly xD |
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| This show doesn't even have half the potential KonoSuba has. |
| KonoSuba was a parody of the exact kind of generic template that Smartphone unironically is I mean really now, this is not even close lol |
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Mator said: It can still go to shit, so we'll have to see. So far though, I think that I will personally enjoy this show more than KonoSuba. KonoSuba just wasn't my style of show though. I have the same feeling, a lot of people call KonoSuba a masterpiece, but for me it's just an avarage anime 5/10, at least this one is quite something, even being cliche and generic. Grey-Zone said: People still don't get it? Konosuba is supposed to be a parody of various series similar to this one. They aren't "the same". Isekai Smartphone = isekai-genre series Konosuba = parody of isekai-genre series This is one of the reasons why I don't like KonoSuba. It's my taste, you can disagree, if you want to. I think KonoSuba is pretty boring and the humor it tries to make is poor, it's something like a child would like. |
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HaXXspetten said: KonoSuba was a parody of the exact kind of generic template that Smartphone unironically is Smartphone actually addresses and overturns tropes from the isekai genre. It's a subtle parody. E.g. In the last episode, MC learns "steal", and references stealing the pantsu from his female companions. They react and he says "no, I would never do that". It's like the anime is acknowledging the exact scene from Konosuba where the MC steals the pantsu of a female character, and then has the MC shrug it off as being something he wouldn't ever do. There's also the scene where they're talking about how they didn't take the quest to go against the acid spitting plants. The girls reference how the acid would burn through their clothes (a reference to the fantasy/ecchi anime trope where a confrontation causes a females clothes to disappear, at least partially). Again, the MC considers this as maybe being a lost opportunity, but then reconsiders. Overall, the anime is, quite consciously, addressing common tropes in its genre and then dismissing them with the realistic, level-headed approach of its MC. This is fresh - a reflection on the tropes of the genre without succumbing to them. I think it's brilliant. It's certainly not enough to make the story (or the anime) good, but it provides an interesting and entertaining backdrop. Saying "this is just a generic template isekai anime" shows that you're clearly not paying attention. |
MatorJul 18, 2017 2:44 PM
Mator said: HaXXspetten said: KonoSuba was a parody of the exact kind of generic template that Smartphone unironically is Smartphone actually addresses and overturns tropes from the isekai genre. It's a subtle parody. E.g. In the last episode, MC learns "steal", and references stealing the pantsu from his female companions. They react and he says "no, I would never do that". It's like the anime is acknowledging the exact scene from Konosuba where the MC steals the pantsu of a female character, and then has the MC shrug it off as being something he wouldn't ever do. There's also the scene where they're talking about how they didn't take the quest to go against the acid spitting plants. The girls reference how the acid would burn through their clothes (a reference to the fantasy/ecchi anime trope where a confrontation causes a females clothes to disappear, at least partially). Again, the MC considers this as maybe being a lost opportunity, but then reconsiders. Overall, the anime is, quite consciously, addressing common tropes in its genre and then dismissing them with the realistic, level-headed approach of its MC. This is fresh - a reflection on the tropes of the genre without succumbing to them. I think it's brilliant. It's certainly not enough to make the story (or the anime) good, but it provides and interesting and entertaining backdrop. Saying "this is just a generic template isekai anime" shows that you're clearly not paying attention. Finally someone who thinks like me. You're a genius :v, thanks for your explanation. |
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| People should stop comparing and start enjoying what they really likes. I think there's no point in it but yeah.. They won't stop *shrugs I like both btw.. |
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Mator said: E.g. In the last episode, MC learns "steal", and references stealing the pantsu from his female companions. They react and he says "no, I would never do that". It's like the anime is acknowledging the exact scene from Konosuba where the MC steals the pantsu of a female character, and then has the MC shrug it off as being something he wouldn't ever do. There's also the scene where they're talking about how they didn't take the quest to go against the acid spitting plants. The girls reference how the acid would burn through their clothes (a reference to the fantasy/ecchi anime trope where a confrontation causes a females clothes to disappear, at least partially). Again, the MC considers this as maybe being a lost opportunity, but then reconsiders. Overall, the anime is, quite consciously, addressing common tropes in its genre and then dismissing them with the realistic, level-headed approach of its MC. This is fresh - a reflection on the tropes of the genre without succumbing to them. I think it's brilliant. It's certainly not enough to make the story (or the anime) good, but it provides an interesting and entertaining backdrop. Saying "this is just a generic template isekai anime" shows that you're clearly not paying attention. well i was going to come in here and say good things about smartphone but now you're making me reconsider think about all of the lost opportunities ._. they should've fought the goddamn slime instead but they didn't cuz the girls found it icky, i'm sure something great would've come out of that |
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| xxJing writes on CR: "The problem is, I think this anime is trying to make fun of like Konosuba, SAO, Re:Zero etc but at the same time, it's failing to be funny. It's like watching someone tell a joke that only they think is funny. It's not so bad it's good, it's just bland. It's the 'Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side.' of anime." I said last week that I wasn't expecting this show to make me laugh, but then this week it did several times, so that's cool, I guess. Here's how I remember the experience of Konosuba: 1) Watch episode and laugh. 2) Watch ED (every time), and get warm fuzzy feelings seeing Kazuma coming home to his harem. 3) Be left with sadness, because they can't actually be the kind of happy family they look like in that shot. "Rapist protagonist" Kazuma hates Aqua, and lusts after the other two in frustration. The show was funny, but it made me want to watch the kind of show Smartphone seems to be. I still have Konosuba rated higher, but the two shows fill very different roles; I'm not rating them on the same scale. I made a concerted effort this season to only start shows I really wanted to see; this is one of only four full-length non-sequel shows I've picked up. And at my initial glance I thought "Oh, a generic isekai anime, I can safely ignore that." It wasn't until weeks later that I reluctantly changed my mind and decided to watch it. For a bit after starting it, I did feel like this show was made just for me and no one else. But there are clearly a few of us who are very much down to watch the relaxed adventures of Jesus-kun. :) |
| OP finds a friend in me by liking cliche from time to time but personally, I found this anime way too rushed. Maybe I'm hoping for them to slow down a little bit and try to develop the plot properly but beside that, Smarthphone is the kind of parody I like. It is like I am seeing Zetsubou Sensei or Baka to Test again but focus on isekai genre instead. Whoops. KonoSuba is fun by itself but personally, it took too much time for it to be entertaining to me while Smartphone shows early the elements I should expect. Beside being rushed, I can say that I have more fun on Isekai on the first 2 episodes of both show. |
mlcdlJul 18, 2017 10:59 PM
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| The show comes no where near konosuba |
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any13th said: Konosuba has clear value in that it is a very good comedy anime with some nice action sequences. Isekai Smartphone has no clear values, no absolute reason why you should watch it. The source of the whole anime, the plot, is very boring. There's no sense of conflict because everything is so inconsequential, and not just because the protagonist is OP. The characters are forgettable and I question their purpose. The comedy is not funny at all. The only good thing I've heard about it is that it's "calm". I really must wonder how jaded someone has to be by "exciting" anime to accept this. About my level of jaded, I guess. I love those calm and nice anime like Shukufuku no Campanella or Shiawase no Pan. Isekai Smartphone doesn't get to the level of those two titles yet, but that's okay. any13th said: The differences are really like night and day. The characters in Konosuba are actually characters that I can describe with a few words. I can't even remember half the cast of Isekai Smartphone, let alone describe them. The comedy in Konosuba works thanks to the animation style, voice actors and good timing. I don't even think Isekai has comedy to begin with. Indeed, I would not say KonoSuba is the same genre as Isekai Smartphone. KonoSuba is a parody of works like this one, you know, and it goes out of its way to break the main parts of these shows' normal appeal. For example, the main characters in Konosuba are the kind of people I don't want to meet, and can't become friends even after a whole season of adventuring. Starlord0696 said: I'm enjoying the show but the fact that it is trying to mimic KonoSuba is really annoying and embarrassing for whoever decided it was a good idea. What makes you think it's trying to mimic Konosuba? I mean, Konosuba is a parody of this type of isekai stories. Isekai Smartphone isn't a parody so far. |
flannanJul 19, 2017 4:42 AM
Starlord0696 said: flannan said: What makes you think it's trying to mimic Konosuba? I mean, Konosuba is a parody of this type of isekai stories. Isekai Smartphone isn't a parody so far. Sure its a type of story but its obviously a parody of konosuba not just by the fact its sent to another world. In episode 1 the MC died in an awful way and met kami-sama where he was sent to another while granting him a wish, now he came up with some kind of steal spell. I did say I was enjoying the show but I cant help being uncomfortable when they try to copy some materials from Konosuba. Actually, dying and meeting a god before going to another world is a pretty common element in recent isekai stories. For example, that happened in Youjo Senki. Except in Youjo Senki the MC disgusted the god and got sent to war as a way to teach him a lesson. Konosuba just added a twist of said god being a rather dislikable goddess like those in Greek myths. "Steal" is indeed quite similar to KonoSuba, I'll give you that. It makes a nice contrast how the MC didn't use it here. |
| The fact that you try to make this show better by compare it to Konosuba triggered me. |
| Konoosuba isn't a parody, ironically it becomes the exact thing it makes fun of later on, meanwhile smartphone is a wholesome fantasy show. |
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| Far away from being as fun as KonoSuba. But it is a lot better than Re:Zero. Yes KonoSuba is funny - soo funny that it's good. This one is more like a generic adventuring ... not making it really good. But it is okay enough and the girls so fare are okay and the main as well. Not great. But okay. (No annoying chars.) |
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| This meme needs to stop. Now. The only reason Production Reed picked up this series is to ride of the success of Konosuba by providing a series that is similar only in its premise. Other than that, they're not very similar. Konosuba had comically unlikable characters, which is what makes it funny. Smartphone has normie characters doing normie things. They aren't eccentric like in Konosuba. If you're the type of person who can find entertainment in that, then fine, but my god does it come off as boring to someone like me (attempts to sound superior not withstanding). Mator said: HaXXspetten said: KonoSuba was a parody of the exact kind of generic template that Smartphone unironically is Smartphone actually addresses and overturns tropes from the isekai genre. It's a subtle parody. E.g. In the last episode, MC learns "steal", and references stealing the pantsu from his female companions. They react and he says "no, I would never do that". It's like the anime is acknowledging the exact scene from Konosuba where the MC steals the pantsu of a female character, and then has the MC shrug it off as being something he wouldn't ever do. There's also the scene where they're talking about how they didn't take the quest to go against the acid spitting plants. The girls reference how the acid would burn through their clothes (a reference to the fantasy/ecchi anime trope where a confrontation causes a females clothes to disappear, at least partially). Again, the MC considers this as maybe being a lost opportunity, but then reconsiders. Overall, the anime is, quite consciously, addressing common tropes in its genre and then dismissing them with the realistic, level-headed approach of its MC. This is fresh - a reflection on the tropes of the genre without succumbing to them. I think it's brilliant. It's certainly not enough to make the story (or the anime) good, but it provides an interesting and entertaining backdrop. Saying "this is just a generic template isekai anime" shows that you're clearly not paying attention. Except by ignoring the insanity that would otherwise set it apart from being generic, it becomes generic. It lacks flavor. It has no hook. Konosuba has the hook of being batshit. Re:Zero has the hook of being le "deconstruction" meme. SAO, despite its faults, has the hook of the prospect of death. By boiling down isekai to its most basic parts, Smartphone remains just that, basic parts. Smartphone isn't really addressing isekai tropes in any meaningful way. It either accepts them (the MC being grossly overpowered, for example - but there are others), or rejects them like you mentioned. Without succumbing to the tropes of isekai, it is unable to challenge and ultimately expand or deconstruct them. |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
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People thinking Konosuba and Smartphone are similar, when in reality they are only similar in concept and this is just a giant marketing tactic by Production Reed in order to make the anime more popular by riding of the success of Konosuba |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
Psyotic said: People thinking Konosuba and Smartphone are similar, when in reality they are only similar in concept and this is just a giant marketing tactic by Production Reed in order to make the anime more popular by riding of the success of Konosuba Oh, I see. I completely agree. Creating that expectation and setting up that comparison was bound to backfire. |
| KonoSuba and Smartphone are very different series but KonoSuba wins almost by default by having occupied an unconventional humor-oriented niche. On the other hand, all Smartphone is at this point is a conventional OP-MC series with no real innovation or self-awareness. Don't get me wrong--I'm fine with some braindead entertainment every once in a while. But Smartphone is garbage compared to the comedy gem that's KonoSuba. |
zannett said: KonoSuba and Smartphone are very different series but KonoSuba wins almost by default by having occupied an unconventional humor-oriented niche. On the other hand, all Smartphone is at this point is a conventional OP-MC series with no real innovation or self-awareness. Don't get me wrong--I'm fine with some braindead entertainment every once in a while. But Smartphone is garbage compared to the comedy gem that's KonoSuba. Yes, maybe I was just needing something like this? It has been a long time since I started to watch only mind blowing/psychological animes and, maybe I'm too serious, so... I think something like this is good for me, right now :v |
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| Well, Smartphone lacks Kazuma, Aqua and the cringy humor of KonoSuba, so it basically wins by default as far as I'm concerned. |
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Psyotic said: Except by ignoring the insanity that would otherwise set it apart from being generic, it becomes generic. It lacks flavor. It has no hook. Konosuba has the hook of being batshit. Re:Zero has the hook of being le "deconstruction" meme. SAO, despite its faults, has the hook of the prospect of death. By boiling down isekai to its most basic parts, Smartphone remains just that, basic parts. Smartphone isn't really addressing isekai tropes in any meaningful way. It either accepts them (the MC being grossly overpowered, for example - but there are others), or rejects them like you mentioned. Without succumbing to the tropes of isekai, it is unable to challenge and ultimately expand or deconstruct them. I agree with you that Smartphone is fairly generic and bland so far. I don't expect it to change a lot any time soon either. That said, there's a lot to be said about expectations and what makes a good story/anime in this discussion. Is an anime good just for doing something different? It certainly can be, but I think that's a very simplified take on things. For the sake of argument, let's take a look at video games. Doom (2016) is very unoriginal, without any new or innovative gameplay components. That said, it's still an absolutely fantastic game. There's more to something being good than just originality, there's also execution and mastery. Will Smartphone demonstrate mastery of the isekai genre? Probably not. Will Smartphone be to isekai as Doom is to action FPS horror games? Probably not. That said, we can still enjoy it and appreciate what it offers. It won't be for everyone, but that can be said about any media. A number of people in this thread have stated a profound dislike of KonoSuba. Art (and anime) is not objective, it's subjective. It's something that requires a viewer to have meaning. I (and others here) can appreciate smartphone and dislike KonoSuba without threatening your dislike of Smartphone and your enjoyment of KonoSuba. It's OK to disagree. :) Anywho, I'm going to be looking forward to the next episode of Smartphone. o/ |
| Ehh, is there a connection between Konosuba and this series? Just because both are isekai one? |
| A review today by @Loli_Bear: I could quote heroines of GJ-bu talking about their MC (who is similar to this one) "let's nickname him 'White Rice', because his plain personality goes with everything". nDroae said: Despite having an Asian dad and growing up eating white rice all the time, I've never understood how Japanese people can eat plain rice balls without added flavors. When I was little and I didn't like the food on the table, my parents would say, "In some parts of the world, people have nothing to eat but rice." I always thought eating plain rice was an act of extreme necessity, and that no one would choose to do so, until I started watching anime. @Mator I agree 100% :) Regarding the principle, I always say I'll choose a simple, well-executed, predictable story over one that is original yet unsatisfying. Regarding whether Smartphone is well-executed, CR reviewer zmod writes: The show's director has a talent for making bad scene transitions, lifeless character performances, uninspired editing, bad scene composition... the complaints truly do go beyond cries of "ripoff". And just because it's a silly pleasant show DO NOT THINK that excuses the show of being bad or underwhelming in these areas. When I watch my dumb distracting anime shows I still expect a base level of direction out of it. But I don't. Or I do, but it's a lower base. In all areas of quality, this show is more than good enough for me to enjoy. I even liked the awkward scene transitions in the second episode, they were fun. Of course it's fine to want things this show doesn't have, like good action, but I don't. (I'm in the middle of Stand Alone Complex right now, that's enough adrenaline for one season :P) What bothers me, and why I keep returning to threads about this show, are the claims that "the same exact thing" is available in better shows. As CR reviewer Intermarium writes: This show is stupid, of a level rarely seen. It surpasses normal light novel adaptation levels of stupid. (...) Only two episodes out so far at the time of this review, but I've got to admit. I watched both of them, and I enjoyed both of them. While being quietly astonished at how things were going so perfectly for the protagonists, in a way fiction never does. I think that's fun. I think that's what I want. If all OP MC isekai were actually like that, then there'd be nothing for me here except cute girls. But it's not. I plan to watch Campanella and Shining Hearts, but those don't exactly look "better" than this. :D Oh yeah, I forgot to mention before: I felt that Senyuu ran the "isekai MC turns out weak and useless" joke into the ground before Konosuba even happened. It's neither a good gag nor an inherently compelling story angle, IMO. https://myanimelist.net/anime/15751/Senyuu |
| No. Just no. Never. |
| This is nothing near KONOSUBA lmao, it's like saying oh hey is this like re:zero? |
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| Only read some reviews and I'm pretty sure this won't be half as good as Konosuba. |
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