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Jul 12, 1:40 AM

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Baronight said:
This topic = Secondaries who complain about stuff which has been established pretty much over 5 years ago...and flat chest is not equal to loli...get your fact right...


Secondaries are always the cancer of fandoms.

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Jul 12, 4:17 AM

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Look up source material of Fate series and you'll know the reason. I don't like it either. For example about Saber, I like her character but fact that she's King Arthur is -5 points and stupid.

Fate series would've been better if there was no stupid amount of female servants based on male people. So I agree with you.
 
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I kinda have mixed feelings with Saber being female. Like I don't mind if the character is done justice, but out of all the legends they pick King Arthur which is a real popular story. It's a small dislike on my part but otherwise I do like Saber as a character.


As for this anime, yea I don't really care about Astofolo, what really gears my grinds is Jack the Ripper in a stripper outfit. Like no matter how many times they try to justify Jack's design I don't like it at all. You should have a look at Fate/ Strange Fake version of Jack the Ripper. He's a berserker and is literally the embodiment of an identity and mystery never solved. He doesn't even have a physical form that ties into his legend.

I don't mind frankensteins design, I believe her design is based on Bride of Frankenstein. Mordred's design was inevitable since it had to follow the lore behind Arturia Pendragon in FSN. I actually think her tomboy personality fits considering who she is.


I think the reason why you're tilted is because they just happened to show 2 (or 3 if you're really that sick of teenage servants) of the worst designed servants in the first 2 episodes. Actually, most of the servant designs are passable. You've only seen half the servants so far.
 
Jul 12, 6:27 AM

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Try to remember this is a different studio, it's the safe way out. They want to guarantee sales.
 
Jul 12, 8:34 AM

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because why the fuck not? Fanservice is great lol
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Jul 12, 9:24 AM

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Try to remember this is a different studio, it's the safe way out. They want to guarantee sales.
No they are just following the source material they are adapting.
 
Jul 12, 10:21 AM

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You want to know what fanservice looks like on this franchise? Watch FATE KALEID
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Jul 12, 10:36 AM

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The king Arthur was pictured as a blonde and sexy girl. Finding problems with their representations at this point is too late.
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You want to know what fanservice looks like on this franchise? Watch FATE KALEID


kaleid has no fanservice. everything they do is important for the story. for example they kiss to exchange mana


 
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Nigami_Shin said:
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You want to know what fanservice looks like on this franchise? Watch FATE KALEID


kaleid has no fanservice. everything they do is important for the story. for example they kiss to exchange mana

I really hope you're kidding....
If not then you've been completely conditioned to accept something obviously facilitated for certain people's interest that wouldn't be accepted under normal circumstances anywhere else.
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Real talk tho, when Kaleid is not being loli yuri fanservice then it's being either a) awesome comedy or b) awesome action.

Sadly tho the anime adds filler fanservice because why not, and people are less likely to read the manga so it comes down to how much you can tolerate the anime :bloblul:
 
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It's an adaptation of Light Novel, A-1 pictures didn't create the servants.

Exactly! Blaming a studio animating someone's insane, morally impaired "ideas" is not exactly just. Blame the old Japs living in their dirty twisted dreams.

but the shots of loli ass and boobs was all A-1 Pictures

 
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There's like, one little girl so far?
 
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Define little. The characters I consider "little", as in improper to have there both out of common sense and because they are twisted versions of world's culture, so far are the Frankenstein stain, that absolutely regurgitation Charlemagne's kid and that "Jack the Ripper" is a metaphorical spit in the face of decent "fiction", probably the worst metaphorical spit in the history of metaphorical spits. And it is saying something.
If they are going to introduce even more "on the clock" characters, or characters bent to their filthy, insane fantasies characters that were never imagined like that by anyone but those deranged Japs, I will rage all the same.
The only way I am going to accept this is when it is a known cultural character which is depicted in almost exactly the same way it is written into world's history or culture (can't think of any sick strong and famous 16 years old kid that got written into the annales).
 
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Extreme3708 said:
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I don't think lolis look like that.


Also Astolfo is a boy :^)


The point is that according to Arthurian Legends Mordred was an epic knight who fought Arthur not a little girl. And even though she is not technically a loli, there is still fanservice with her. Amd Astolfo being a boy makes it even worse, not only is a loli but a fuckin TRAP that looks like a loli


Wow, Mordred has been confirmed as female when the first animation was released which was Fate/Stay Night. You're new to the Fate Franchise are you? You only started watching the anime because of UFOTable didn't cha? You absolutely have no idea of the Fate Franchise is knowing only two of it. I suggest you first read and play the whole franchise before you start bitching about something.

Lastly, are you that stupid to not know the exact definition of what a loli is?
 
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ugggggh

I hate filthy secondaries
KATO IS BEST GIRL
 
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This shit is fucking up my enjoyment of the show. I've watched Fate Zero and UBW and I know for damn sure this is simply an adaptation, but Why can't anime take itself seriously for once!!! The premise of two faction fighting each other using 7 servants on each side sounds epic as fuck! But why do they have to mess it up with boob/ass shots in each frame??? I seriously hate fanservice.....And not only that, but also fuckin Frankenstein, Jack the Ripper, the "son" of one of Charlamagne's paldins and the bastard "son" of King Arthur are all LITTLE FUCKIN LOLIS WHAT THE FUCKKK???? Anime is a joke.

I hope you knew that Fate were actually an eroge game no?
 
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Nigami_Shin said:
Janethan23 said:
You want to know what fanservice looks like on this franchise? Watch FATE KALEID


kaleid has no fanservice. everything they do is important for the story. for example they kiss to exchange mana

>t.fai
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Can't help it if the paying customer is a degenerative Japanese deviant, and then there is a bunch of them, and they decided to RUIN MORE OR LESS COHERENT UNIVERSE WITH THIS! (A "spin-off" that has now forever tainted that already retardieu "Fate/" franchise)

Exactly! Blaming a studio animating someone's insane, morally impaired "ideas" is not exactly just. Blame the old Japs living in their dirty twisted dreams.


jesus dude
not to disagree it's NEET-baitish but your posts make you seem like you tip fedoras
that's also casually racist
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Jul 13, 6:26 AM
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And I'm more disappointed that Chiron isn't in a centaure appearance than the "girls instead of men" problem.



Uh, you really want the enemies to instantly figure him out? Like, there's no other notable centaur with mad combat skills.

Everyone would instantly fill every projectile with Hydra poison
 
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Like I said about Waver, he was outclassed heavily by other masters, yet I loved him as character. Why? Because he knew he got involved into something far out of his league. And he acted accordingly. He was great character, had great development arc and learned lessons from war which helped him become what he became later on.
He was changed by war, learned about self-respect, duty, honor, courage etc.

On the other hand, what's the first thing Charlamange paladin does? Jump around like a joyous kid. What's one of the first things Frankensteins monster does? Speak in kawaii-voice.

It's not kids per se that annoy me, but how they're portraited. Don't even let me get started on Mordred. Every cliche from the book, every last one of them.

If anime features small kids being overly annoying, usualy I'll just drop it and move on. The only reason I'm still sticking with this one is because it's FATE.

The only reason I will keep watching this disfigured, impure twist of cultural and moral values by some old, borderline insane Japs, is Shakespeare and Spartacus,


Why do you keep going on about "Impure twist of cultural and moral values?" You do realise that different parts of the world have different morals and values? From what you have said so far, you seem to be an American SJW. Now, your morals are already extremely different to where you live. What makes you think that your morals/values actually matter to a Japanese anime studio? They don’t. Japan has some extremely different morals and values when compared to countries like England, America, Australia, etc. Your morals mean fuck all to them. Don’t try to use "Morals/Values" as an excuse to bash an anime because YOU ARE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE. The target audience isn’t SJW Americans, because if it was, it would be the worst anime in existence. The target audience is Japanese people.

Now, onto what you and others have been saying about how “These characters are not how they should be.” Firstly, it is anime, who gives a shit. Secondly, Fate/Apocrypha came out in 2012 as a LN and all of the characters were exactly the same. This anime is only an adaption and if you really wanted to complain about the designs of characters (which wouldn’t have made an impact on the writers anyways) then you should have complained 5 years ago.


Now, everyone seems to be calling Mordred, Frankenstein and Astolfo lolis. You westerners should really fix your incorrect definition of what a loli is. A loli is not just a girl who is short and has small/non-existent breasts. If that were the case, characters like Artoria would be classed as a loli. A loli is a female who looks childish. Now, Mordred and Frankenstein do not look childish at all. If you think so, then you must think anyone who looks like they could be under the age of 21 is a child. Loli doesn’t even apply to Astolfo as Astolfo is male. Yes, he may be a trap, but he is not the only one in the fate franchise (D’eon).

Yes, Jack may be a loli, but there is a reason to it. They didn’t just make Jack a loli because they could, there is reasoning behind it.





And as someone said before, this isnt the only representation of Jack the Ripper. There is a berserker form as well which appears in Fate/Strange Fake. But since you seem to think you know everything, you should already know that.

If you really dont like this, dont complain. It wont get you anywhere. It will only cause a disruption in a decent community (unless that is your intent). Just stop watching and leave.
 
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What I find really disturbing about this theme the Fate franchise has been doing is gender swapping historical figures.
Don't get me wrong it's kinda fresh and intrigues me almost every time but what I'm trying to point out is women throughout history have had their own heroes & villains and passing on them infavor of men who have made their mark are put into the spotlight even though they're drawn as girls. It's actually a disservice to women when they're set aside like this.
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I think we just need to apply the Dragon Ball GT method here. Just erase the show from your mind and pretend it doesn't exist. Do not let it tarnish the great previous entries and sully the franchise.
 
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Aaeeschylus said:
Daniel_Naumov said:

The only reason I will keep watching this disfigured, impure twist of cultural and moral values by some old, borderline insane Japs, is Shakespeare and Spartacus,


Why do you keep going on about "Impure twist of cultural and moral values?" You do realise that different parts of the world have different morals and values? From what you have said so far, you seem to be an American SJW. Now, your morals are already extremely different to where you live. What makes you think that your morals/values actually matter to a Japanese anime studio? They don’t. Japan has some extremely different morals and values when compared to countries like England, America, Australia, etc. Your morals mean fuck all to them. Don’t try to use "Morals/Values" as an excuse to bash an anime because YOU ARE NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE. The target audience isn’t SJW Americans, because if it was, it would be the worst anime in existence. The target audience is Japanese people.

Now, onto what you and others have been saying about how “These characters are not how they should be.” Firstly, it is anime, who gives a shit. Secondly, Fate/Apocrypha came out in 2012 as a LN and all of the characters were exactly the same. This anime is only an adaption and if you really wanted to complain about the designs of characters (which wouldn’t have made an impact on the writers anyways) then you should have complained 5 years ago.


Now, everyone seems to be calling Mordred, Frankenstein and Astolfo lolis. You westerners should really fix your incorrect definition of what a loli is. A loli is not just a girl who is short and has small/non-existent breasts. If that were the case, characters like Artoria would be classed as a loli. A loli is a female who looks childish. Now, Mordred and Frankenstein do not look childish at all. If you think so, then you must think anyone who looks like they could be under the age of 21 is a child. Loli doesn’t even apply to Astolfo as Astolfo is male. Yes, he may be a trap, but he is not the only one in the fate franchise (D’eon).

Yes, Jack may be a loli, but there is a reason to it. They didn’t just make Jack a loli because they could, there is reasoning behind it.





And as someone said before, this isnt the only representation of Jack the Ripper. There is a berserker form as well which appears in Fate/Strange Fake. But since you seem to think you know everything, you should already know that.

If you really dont like this, dont complain. It wont get you anywhere. It will only cause a disruption in a decent community (unless that is your intent). Just stop watching and leave.

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Also, please, #Jappower, stop calling everyone raging about mental degradation a "westerner". Where do you even draw a line around the world for this stupideu terminology? Anything beyond the Japland?
I am not trying to make you look better by calling you something you are not, like a "first world citizen", right? Do not call me wrong names as well. Appreciate it.
 
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Daniel_Naumov said:
Also, please, #Jappower, stop calling everyone raging about mental degradation a "westerner". Where do you even draw a line around the world for this stupideu terminology? Anything beyond the Japland?
I am not trying to make you look better by calling you something you are not, like a "first world citizen", right? Do not call me wrong names as well. Appreciate it.


I understand your complaints comrade Naumov but honestly, I wouldn't mind if in the next Fate, we get to see Rasputin turned into a 12 years old loli with big titties like this:



She would be the perfect mascot for the series but also a new source of pride for mother Russia.
 
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Kolios said:
Extreme3708 said:
This shit is fucking up my enjoyment of the show. I've watched Fate Zero and UBW and I know for damn sure this is simply an adaptation, but Why can't anime take itself seriously for once!!! The premise of two faction fighting each other using 7 servants on each side sounds epic as fuck! But why do they have to mess it up with boob/ass shots in each frame??? I seriously hate fanservice.....And not only that, but also fuckin Frankenstein, Jack the Ripper, the "son" of one of Charlamagne's paldins and the bastard "son" of King Arthur are all LITTLE FUCKIN LOLIS WHAT THE FUCKKK???? Anime is a joke.


Astolfo is not a girl. It's a boy. Jack the Ripper identity is unknown in history. Albeit it makes more sense for the person to be a male considering the victims were prostitutes. Mordred is female because Arthur (or Arthuria) is female in Fate/Stay Night.

Frankestein gender is not relevant, it's a zombie. The genderbending in the show so far isn't bad. It's worse with other Fate characters like
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Frankenstein was the man who reanimated a corpse. The corpse that Frankenstein reanimated had no name and was usually just called the creature.
Anime is ok.

 
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Astolfo is not a girl. It's a boy. Jack the Ripper identity is unknown in history. Albeit it makes more sense for the person to be a male considering the victims were prostitutes. Mordred is female because Arthur (or Arthuria) is female in Fate/Stay Night.

Frankestein gender is not relevant, it's a zombie. The genderbending in the show so far isn't bad. It's worse with other Fate characters like
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Frankenstein was the man who reanimated a corpse. The corpse that Frankenstein reanimated had no name and was usually just called the creature.


The Frankenstein in fate is Frankensteins monster, not Frankenstein himself. She is just called Frankenstein, probably for the same reason everyone who doesnt know much calls the monster Frankenstein or just to make it easier
 
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Aaeeschylus said:
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Frankenstein was the man who reanimated a corpse. The corpse that Frankenstein reanimated had no name and was usually just called the creature.


The Frankenstein in fate is Frankensteins monster, not Frankenstein himself. She is just called Frankenstein, probably for the same reason everyone who doesnt know much calls the monster Frankenstein or just to make it easier


Yeah I know, just wanted to clear up a common misconception about Frankenstein.
Anime is ok.

 
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I agree with OP, but don't care overall because after three episodes it is clear that Fate/Apocrypha is a below average anime. How it is 8/10 currently, I have no friggin idea. Even the animation is shit.

Also while it is probably following the source material, it is certainly weird to see nasty fetishes around characters of Arthur, Mordred, Frankenstein, Jack the Ripper and Astolfo. Before some moron says Astolfo is a boy in the anime, I know, but why the fuck was he designed to look like a girl except for pandering?
 
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I agree with OP, but don't care overall because after three episodes it is clear that Fate/Apocrypha is a below average anime. How it is 8/10 currently, I have no friggin idea. Even the animation is shit.

Also while it is probably following the source material, it is certainly weird to see nasty fetishes around characters of Arthur, Mordred, Frankenstein, Jack the Ripper and Astolfo. Before some moron says Astolfo is a boy in the anime, I know, but why the fuck was he designed to look like a girl except for pandering?

"B-because!.." - Anyone desperately trying to justify this disgusting depiction.
 
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OK. let me correct what he said:

Why are almost all of the heroes in this war either little girls, little boys or 12 year old kids? Few exceptions.

I'm completely on the side of OP here, it's fucking annoying.
I guess Charlamange used little boy/girl as his paladin, Frankenstein created loli with giant hammer etc.
It's obvious fanservice and pandering to the masses.

I, for one, fucking hate it. And I'm one of those who call themselves Fate fans.


Astolfo was regarded in history as being a pretty boy/the most handsome you do realize that correct? Again, had you even tried to indulge into some learning, you'd probably been able to learn that.

Frank doesn't even look like a little girl. The only one who looks like a little girl is Jack and she still stays true to her original iteration in history.

I'll say it a final time: Had you taken the time to even try to learn about anything, you'd realize that there's legitimately only one girl. I do not care about whatever morality issues you have or how conflicted/pissed you are about this, but don't try to lie to justify your reasoning.

If you're going to slander a series because you simply do not like how they have young cast members for a show targeting a teen~young adult audience it honestly shocks me you're even watching anime in general.

Quick Edit:(Doing this because I want you to know it's edited) If you don't like it in the end, stop watching. Plain and simple. You moan and complain yet you continue to watch. If the showing having young-teen offend you that much, by all means, next time you launch whatever site you watch anime on go ahead and click the "X" in the top right and move on.



The fuck Jack doesn't stay true to "her" original iteration. Strange/fake is more accurate because the true identity was never revealed therefore he was summoned as a wraith. Apocrypha Jack backstory is just some dumb bullshit excuse to make her a fucking stripper loli (later in the series) to cater to the people who should be in prison/should not be near little kids.



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SwiftKilla said:
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Astolfo was regarded in history as being a pretty boy/the most handsome you do realize that correct? Again, had you even tried to indulge into some learning, you'd probably been able to learn that.

Frank doesn't even look like a little girl. The only one who looks like a little girl is Jack and she still stays true to her original iteration in history.

I'll say it a final time: Had you taken the time to even try to learn about anything, you'd realize that there's legitimately only one girl. I do not care about whatever morality issues you have or how conflicted/pissed you are about this, but don't try to lie to justify your reasoning.

If you're going to slander a series because you simply do not like how they have young cast members for a show targeting a teen~young adult audience it honestly shocks me you're even watching anime in general.

Quick Edit:(Doing this because I want you to know it's edited) If you don't like it in the end, stop watching. Plain and simple. You moan and complain yet you continue to watch. If the showing having young-teen offend you that much, by all means, next time you launch whatever site you watch anime on go ahead and click the "X" in the top right and move on.



The fuck Jack doesn't stay true to "her" original iteration. Strange/fake is more accurate because the true identity was never revealed therefore he was summoned as a wraith. Apocrypha Jack backstory is just some dumb bullshit excuse to make her a fucking stripper loli (later in the series) to cater to the people who should be in prison/should not be near little kids.





Why the fuck is this thread still up.

Also, Jack does stays true in some way to her original iteration. Jack murderered female prositutes. This Jack murders guys.

Again, I do not care about any form of morality bullshit you have to say regarding lolis. But after you quoting me, wasting my time even typing this. I know you're another sperglord who gets personally offended by lolis and the like. I'll tell you what majority of people on the internet will tell you:

No
One
Cares

If you're offended by the fact she's a loli and or you morality is being tarnished. Just stop fucking watching. Get over it. No one cares dude

Plain and simple. Don't quote me again
 
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This topic = Secondaries who complain about stuff which has been established pretty much over 5 years ago...and flat chest is not equal to loli...get your fact right...


Secondaries are always the cancer of fandoms.


What in the world is a secondary? lol......
 
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The fuck Jack doesn't stay true to "her" original iteration. Strange/fake is more accurate because the true identity was never revealed therefore he was summoned as a wraith. Apocrypha Jack backstory is just some dumb bullshit excuse to make her a fucking stripper loli (later in the series) to cater to the people who should be in prison/should not be near little kids.





Why the fuck is this thread still up.

Also, Jack does stays true in some way to her original iteration. Jack murderered female prositutes. This Jack murders guys.

Again, I do not care about any form of morality bullshit you have to say regarding lolis. But after you quoting me, wasting my time even typing this. I know you're another sperglord who gets personally offended by lolis and the like. I'll tell you what majority of people on the internet will tell you:

No
One
Cares

If you're offended by the fact she's a loli and or you morality is being tarnished. Just stop fucking watching. Get over it. No one cares dude

Plain and simple. Don't quote me again


So apparently I can't post shit about a character without being "offended". Seriously you can't hate or talk shit on anything in this world without being branded as "offended". If anything, I'm laughing my fucking ass off over how they turned an unidentified serial killer who terrorized london to a stripper loli, and her design makes the joke even better. But no, don't go bringing morals to the table when its merely just disappointment by fans who were expecting a crazy ass looking mfer and not a loli wearing fuck all.

 
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I think someone needs to tell what OP what a Loli is....

oh, god forbid there's like 1 Loli in the show~ who gives a shit, they don't need to make every character a mature beauty with DD breasts or a dude with an 8 pack :v
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SwiftKilla said:
Kotou said:


Why the fuck is this thread still up.

Also, Jack does stays true in some way to her original iteration. Jack murderered female prositutes. This Jack murders guys.

Again, I do not care about any form of morality bullshit you have to say regarding lolis. But after you quoting me, wasting my time even typing this. I know you're another sperglord who gets personally offended by lolis and the like. I'll tell you what majority of people on the internet will tell you:

No
One
Cares

If you're offended by the fact she's a loli and or you morality is being tarnished. Just stop fucking watching. Get over it. No one cares dude

Plain and simple. Don't quote me again


So apparently I can't post shit about a character without being "offended". Seriously you can't hate or talk shit on anything in this world without being branded as "offended". If anything, I'm laughing my fucking ass off over how they turned an unidentified serial killer who terrorized london to a stripper loli, and her design makes the joke even better. But no, don't go bringing morals to the table when its merely just disappointment by fans who were expecting a crazy ass looking mfer and not a loli wearing fuck all.


Oh, I DO bring morals in here. To be more precise, their impurity and outright ABSENCE in those people behind such character "designs". But hey, welcome to 21th Japanese Entertainment. Not all are twisted into this insane way, but those that are turn me into a weapon-grade heater.
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I honestly don't give a shit if they're girls or guys. As long as they're interesting, I'm fine with whatever genders, or even race to a certain extent, these characters are.
 
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Secondaries are always the cancer of fandoms.


What in the world is a secondary? lol......


Secondaries, in fandom definitions are "People who came into a franchise/series and became a fan of it through a newer iteration or medium"

Example in Fate Fandom, Person A claims he like the Fate/series, but actually he only likes Fate/Zero and only cares about it if it's like Fate/Zero.

There's no "real" or urban definition for it though.
I first noticed the usage of this from Touhou fans.
In the Touhou fandom
Primary fans, are those who actually likes to play the source material, the Bullet Hell Games.
Secondary fans, only likes the Memes, fanfics and other derivative works and avoid the original games.

After that, usage of the word in fandoms that I found usually refers to "Fans who became fans not through the source material", whether they're trash or not depends on their attitude. Worst ones will advise new people to not read/watch any other spin-offs.

In case of Jack the Ripper, her design already existed 5 Years ago, when Fate/Apocrypha was planned to be an Online game, before it was scrapped and remade into Fate/Grand Order. People complaining about it now are the Secondaries.
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Jul 17, 3:30 PM

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Because it's targeting an audience whose main interest is little ass girls
Nico- said:
@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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@Comic_Sans I hate to insult you on forums but you are just a troll so just go kill yourself already bitch
 
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Comic_Sans said:
Because it's targeting an audience whose main interest is little ass girls



yeah, so having 1 loli character in your show makes your target audience lolicons... shit logic right there


considering 14/15 of the servants in aprocrypha are either dudes or normal sized women, I have a feeling that isn't true ? (mordred isn't a loli)




I see up there some person (idiot) said that fran is a loli....dude she's like 5'8", only thing is she has "small boobs"

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@TrueUchiha Yes, since lolicons are the only people who actually like lolis.
Nico- said:
@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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@Comic_Sans I hate to insult you on forums but you are just a troll so just go kill yourself already bitch
 
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@TrueUchiha Yes, since lolicons are the only people who actually like lolis.



.......you gotta be trolling me, 15 servants, 9 are dudes, 5 are girls that are fully grown and only 1 is a loli, and that makes the show's primary demographic lolicons?


are you retarded? this show isn't eromanga, the primary demographic is people who like action scenes and pointless dialogue, not lolicons. now, if you were talking about the illya spinoff, then you'd have a point, but this isn't that, so just no.
 
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TrueUchiha said:
.......you gotta be trolling me, 15 servants, 9 are dudes, 5 are girls that are fully grown and only 1 is a loli, and that makes the show's primary demographic lolicons?


are you retarded? this show isn't eromanga, the primary demographic is people who like action scenes and pointless dialogue, not lolicons. now, if you were talking about the illya spinoff, then you'd have a point, but this isn't that, so just no.
Are you retarded? You asked if featuring one loli in a show makes your target audience lolicons, not if it makes it your primary target audience. The loli was obviously not created to appeal to people who aren't lolicons.
Nico- said:
@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
Salman bin Abdul Aziz said:
@Comic_Sans I hate to insult you on forums but you are just a troll so just go kill yourself already bitch
 
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Excuse me, 5 are fully grown "girls"? Fully grown girl is a WOMAN, and the only woman I have seen was that stupid alchemist female that bailed out of the game with the rest of team Red. Frankenstein is under 18 (just like half the masters on black side), Jack the Ripper is a mistake, the Greek girl is a "god" so I might skip on that. Mordred is a 15-16 old girl, but this is fine with me since she has JUST SOME BASIS IN THE HISTORY and being an illegitimate child of the king she is mentally unstable. Accepted. The Simmerlyios elf warlock serving the priest IS THE ONLY ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE A WOMAN ON THE SERVANT SIDE.
The whole set of characters made out of morally questionable adolescents and brain damaged girls... well, the aim is obvious - at deviants. The Japs, the average ones, were always aiming at the worst, the deviants. And this? Merely an average. Mediocre. Enjoy it. Or not.
 
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This whole thread is the reason why I hate fans.

>All servants little ass girls
Clearly someone who doesn't even know the franchise.
>Fanservice
Ehh, are you talking about fanservice in fate, like... the franchise that got popular by their erogue visual novels?
>Doesn't follow historical facts
Hahaha a gender bend bothers you? What's the ACTUAL important difference about characters like King Arthur being a girl or a boy? They do a great work adapting the myth even with Artoria being a girl. Also Astolfo is not a girl, it has a girlish look by actual historical facts about him. Jack the ripper gender was never confirmed neither his/her age.
The design? YES it's ridiculous but again, if the character is well written the aesthetic doesn't have any negative point in objetive critics.


Most complains look like it's by people who: 1. Don't follow the franchise. 2. Follow it because edgy F/Zero and expected this to be as edgy and "mature". 3. why are you even complaining about irrelevant stuff?

The only ONLY thing I complain is that the creepy ass scenes with astolfo and his master and the mediocre fight animation considering the level of A-1, but that's just a personal complaint.

The worst part is people complaining with the studio about "changes" which has nothing to do with the source material.

Before you start making stupid threads go and read about the material.
 
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Excuse me, 5 are fully grown "girls"? Fully grown girl is a WOMAN, and the only woman I have seen was that stupid alchemist female that bailed out of the game with the rest of team Red. Frankenstein is under 18 (just like half the masters on black side), Jack the Ripper is a mistake, the Greek girl is a "god" so I might skip on that. Mordred is a 15-16 old girl, but this is fine with me since she has JUST SOME BASIS IN THE HISTORY and being an illegitimate child of the king she is mentally unstable. Accepted. The Simmerlyios elf warlock serving the priest IS THE ONLY ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE A WOMAN ON THE SERVANT SIDE.
Or not.


I don't even know why you're complaining about age. Age is totally irrelevant for the plot itself. Frankestein age is not even relevant or needed to work, it was an EXPERIMENT with LOTS of human body parts. Astolfo was portrait as young ( he's not a girl tho ), Fiore ( the one in wheelchair ) is 19 years old, Celenike is 26 so idk wth are you talking about. Reika ( the one with Jack ) is also 23. The only ones looking under aged are Jack the ripper and Mordred ( She looks like 16-18 ), and again age is relevant on servants because ?????. Oh and clearly you know sh*t about why Jack the ripper has that image. But then again I bet you complain about this because there's not enough tiddies bouncing. Because obviously adds quality to the plot.
 
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This is just a pointless spin off series anyway, right? I only really care about stories that pertain to Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay. I'm tired of these one-offs, seriously. Why are they doing this to the fan base to begin with? The visual novel came out years and years ago at this point and they STILL have yet to tell the full story within anime.

Instead, we get weird spin-offs like the one based on the mobile game that came out (Grand something, its on Crunchy and it was hella stupid), and those loli spin offs, Kaleid is MUCH worse than Apocrypha byw.
 
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This is just a pointless spin off series anyway, right? I only really care about stories that pertain to Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay. I'm tired of these one-offs, seriously. Why are they doing this to the fan base to begin with? The visual novel came out years and years ago at this point and they STILL have yet to tell the full story within anime.

Instead, we get weird spin-offs like the one based on the mobile game that came out (Grand something, its on Crunchy and it was hella stupid), and those loli spin offs, Kaleid is MUCH worse than Apocrypha byw.
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I mean, yes, you are right, we should not even be that smoking for the sole reason that this is not something original, but rather an abomination of taking fundamental basics of the series and sewing them together in something resembling Fate/ only by those basics, no coherence. Obviously they just want to make money off the guys who cherish "source material" (those deviant-ish adolescents, oh), but since this made it to the masses I would like it to be decent but oh boy I know that this is going nowhere :(:(:(:(:(:(
I guess I will shut myself since we both understand this is a disgust. Some can enjoy it, I guess I will try too.
 
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Daniel_Naumov said:
Ketamigo said:
This is just a pointless spin off series anyway, right? I only really care about stories that pertain to Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay. I'm tired of these one-offs, seriously. Why are they doing this to the fan base to begin with? The visual novel came out years and years ago at this point and they STILL have yet to tell the full story within anime.

Instead, we get weird spin-offs like the one based on the mobile game that came out (Grand something, its on Crunchy and it was hella stupid), and those loli spin offs, Kaleid is MUCH worse than Apocrypha byw.
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I mean, yes, you are right, we should not even be that smoking for the sole reason that this is not something original, but rather an abomination of taking fundamental basics of the series and sewing them together in something resembling Fate/ only by those basics, no coherence. Obviously they just want to make money off the guys who cherish "source material" (those deviant-ish adolescents, oh), but since this made it to the masses I would like it to be decent but oh boy I know that this is going nowhere :(:(:(:(:(:(
I guess I will shut myself since we both understand this is a disgust. Some can enjoy it, I guess I will try too.


I'll try to enjoy it, too, but dear god, when will we actually get to enjoy the mainline story to its completion?!

These kids will probably bring themselves to "completion" by watching Loli's on Fate/Kaleid everynight, but I have a girlfriend, and I'm not a fucking Pedo like these degenerates .
 
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I'm freaking laughing so hard about these two retarded. Complaining about one "loli" character being in a fucking "non canon" fate serie, but there's Illya in the main series, who is the enormous example of "adult" loli yet i bet they don't even complain about that because "ahh everyone else look adult so what" "she's an homonculu so she can look like that" xddddd. Let's forget that the others homonculus looked older xdd. "Ohhhhhhhh noooo a non older looking character jesus christ how disgusting this series is for degenerates" HAHAHAHAHA
The best part is the GF part, like what the fuck does that has to do with watching an anime who has an under aged looking character. And how the fuck having an underaged looking character destroys the main plot of the entire anime?

Btw can you even judge someone of being degenerate while you have Boku dake as a favorite? While that anime shows a 28yr old guy liking a 10 year old and getting blushed by listening a little girl and his mom in the shower? Jesus XDDDD
 
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